Guild Wars 2

Great idea Daendur. You cannot imagine how funny it looks when 5 man group is wiped by 30 man zerg. (yes TDA and XxX looking at you, last 2 days at our borderland)

aTs on RoF, 4-5 people almost every day.

After patch was up, on RoF bl we re heavily outmanned. One hour after patch we had 6 people on our borderland. YaK was on our BL and Drakkars were on our BL too with bigger numbers. Fight at Garison was really nice, to bad I was pushed between Gandara nad Drakkars at watergate. And after waypoint when I get to Gari, they just broke to LR.

@Jamais vu well this week we only see big signals like red sea of names wiping us. We have so little chances to get nice fight between 10 people. So dont blame us, we are like bulls this week. See red-attack it.

Gandara, Drakkars are you kidding me? We had about 20 people on our borderland. Whole evening we are outmanned.
And you run to us with 40 or more people? I cant even get a screenshot because your zerg did not fit on my screen(24 inch).
And the best thing? Gandara did not had their borderland. Drakkars did not too.

Well that is some idea Furesy.
Only thing that scares me are those overflow servers.

I dont think its about new content. But about repairing what is broken or was bad idea.
Like 3 identical maps? Where on eartch can U find 3 identical countries? Is there somewhere USA, USB and USC ?
Also grouping. Commander tag is not a good idea because you dont have any control over your squad. And Commander should have it.
Loot and taging. Support is not welcome. Taking care of your keeps is not welcome. Just zerg,blob and go find enemy.
And many more things they can solve. But they did not. They rather do PvE map because they can make it artifically hard. And it looks good. And PvE is all about looking good.
Its called marketing. You cannot sell dirty guys fighting on same 3 maps.
But nice new map with beautiful scenes. Yup, that something guys will put on their desktops as wallpaper.

If you read wiki- under RI you cannot claim it.
Because it is sometimes bugged, you can earlier. But originally it should be after Ri is gone.
Did you waited there for 5 minutes to give it a try?

Problem with queue is that you dont see how long it will take. You dont see your number in queue.
On higher servers if suddenly they will se they are 90/100 in queue they will start thinking of leaving server to ones with shorter queues.

@Tribio thanks, I thought it will be like this.
And if you look at ratings, BT is 24, WSR 25, FoW 26 and Vabbi 27.
WSR and BT has equal population and yet it is bigger than of Vabbi or FoW.

This is why there is nothing Anet can do. There is no third server with population equal to FoW or Vabbi.
Only solution they can do is to delete 3 servers from the bottom. Now its FoW,Vabbi and WSR. Not good solution, but the only one possible.

Well in this case there is no simple solution Anet can do.
Why? Because in EU bracket, there are only 2 servers with little WvW population. FoW and Vabbi.
Other servers like Arborstone, WSR or Blacktide have much higher population.

Only thing Anet can do, is not putting servers like RoF and RoS to fight Vabbi and FoW.

My question to FoW and vabbi: last week against RoF and this week against Blacktide, who has lower population? FoW got already more points that they had for whole week against RoF.

There is sometimes a cooldown for this option. If you stay on camp for 5 minutes(at least until RI is out), then you will have this option to claim land.
I dont know why it sometimes pop out immediatelly, sometimes its on CD.

It does not matter how long ago you claimed last camp/tower. It depends how long ago you took the camp/tower and if Lord have Ri or not.

Bigger groups have priority only with that they can set one member to every lord on map. Otherwise there is classic: first to come, first to serve.

And I seen guilds with no banner. In this case you just need to read what Lord is saying. If it is something like: already claimed, then guild with no banner claimed it.

You called this even? Oh wait you were not talking about RoF:-D

@Osicat – thanks for reminding me I have a mesmer too. Ele is going to bench and mesmer is going to the field.

So lets look at history of matches.
SoR-JQ-BG – similar points, sometimes is SoR better, sometimes is JQ.
At week 23 Dragonbrand moved to T1 and SoR to T2. What did we have?
BG dominated, JQ second with loose of 110k points. Dragonbrand last with loose of 175k points. Huge difference.
But SoR is in T2 fighting two servers. It should not be so easy because against BG and JQ they dont have enought points.
T2 : SoR 296k points., TC loose of 125k points, SoS loose of 160k points.

Week 24:
T1: SoR 234k points, BG loose of 15k points, JQ loose of 50k points. Not so bad taking in mind week 23.
Week 25 Blackgate won. After series of defeats. They did it.
Week 26 SoR won again.
Week 27: BG is winning right now. May just turn.

Wo what are you complaining? If SoR was against T2, they stomped them. JQ had a chance with missing SoR and they let BG won. I know you want to fight T2, where you can win. But this system did not helped you to achieve that. And is hurting lower servers in a big way.
Actually it is hurting you as well. TC had a change to be closer. Tey were gaining points is last few weeks and are 100 points lower. But new system takes 40 points down just because EB had a bad draw(or good,different ways to look at it) and TC did not stomp them completely.
TC must not left any tower to EB or they will loose points. Just because rank 9 is with rank 5 and 4.

And the last point: you wnt to face lower servers to stomp them, or face better servers and try to win? You let SoR and BG win. In war there is a name for soldier who stops fighting and go away and leave fellow soldiers on battlefield.

On RoF we are trying even agains much much bigger enemy. And thats why we are holdin and we really would like a chance to fight simmilar enemies. Because there is no Tier 0, you only can go down. And you want to go down.We want go up. But step by step. Not challenge T4 while we are in T7. (2 weeks already we are holding against their hordes)

Ahh we are proud we are doing good. But face the reality. We are doing good because Gandara and Drakkar are fighting themselves. If they want our tower they just need to come with 40 people.And they have these numbers.

Okaishi, how did you liked battle against Augury Rock? You had only one week against stronger enemy. One week against Ros and Ratnick. Other weeks you dominate.But never as much as AR stomped you. So you can call it nice matchups. RoF did not have that luxury.

And I suggested better idea than 1up1down. Just use possitive numbers in RNG. In this there wont be battles with 9 ranks difference like now.

I have very easy solution for this situation. Just dont use “-” minus in RNG.
So every server will get RNG and matches will still shuffle. But will be limited for approx 200 points in rating.
There will still be possible to fights like Dzvs RoFvs RoS or Millers vs Fort Ratnick vs Augury Rock. But Gandara vs RoF vs Drakakrs will not be possible again.

And what is the best? Rating will matter. Now it does not. If you will have + or -, that matters.

Look at RoF. RoF had 1 297.759 rating. If we had bad draw, +200 point it will be 1 497.759
And now look at every server under 1500.
Fort Ratnick, GH, Underworld, Drakkars (only because they had bad macthup agains Pikens 8 ranks difference and probably they will have RNG more than 50points), and others.
If RoF win and gets 50 points of rating up. They will have possibility to face better enemies next week. But RNG will be in place and will not guarantie we will.

But devs dont care about us. Players. They need to create more things to gem shop and some PvE events to sell those items. They dont think about situation in WvW. Thats why we dont have any word from devs. Maybe in couple of weeks.(6 months i think), they will change matchups again.

Doesn’t matter which proffesion.
If you take guard or other tank, you will be in front lines. If you take staff ele you will be behind tanks.
If you encounter weaker enemy, you stomp them. If you encounter stringer enemy, you all will die no matter which class you have.

Really? Are you joking?
You want to stomp some server? You are bored because of even fight?
You want to be like Fort Aspenwood this week? I am sure they would like to fight same enemy forever if the enemy is even to them.
At least 7 matches from Eu want to.

Yes dear Heff der Friedhoefe, dueling and GvsG is now the only option how to have fun in WvW.
Players are just using small part of game because rest is pointless. It does not matter if you win or loose. Because you cannot change RNG or reroll if you have bad number.

So we at least are trying to have some fun if you dont have 30 guildies with you.

This current system is not broken, only RNG factor is.

If you ever take that mesmer to duels again i wont fight you. I can already down myself and it will be quicker.
Yes Lady Allya with ele is really good.
And thanks for tips on engi, i try to have him ready until this matchup finish.

Any party interested in GvG in 10vs10 meet us at Sunday at 7pm UK time at RoF near Mill.
we will be waiting.

Fizzlefry.1734:

I feel a bit dirty… TDA blobbed today.

Anyway.. Nice to see some new faces, i hope we get some good fights once the reset and weekend madness wears off.
/salute

You meen when aTs with 8 people were trying to sneak Hills and TDA came with 40 people?
Too bad you did not came 60 seconds later. Then you would need to break gates.

And it was fun watching Gandara and Drakkar groups. Standing at Greenlake at Drakkars BL. Watching big groups from both servers just passing tower. Never attacked, always passed it. One you attacked to destroy our trebs.

And EU tier 1 is the same as the rest. Will we be looking at 8 blowouts from 9 matches?

Guys is you feel bad on TC, come to EU to RoF. We invite US players because of our low coverage at nights (your prime time).

Sorry Krosan but I think they are trying to kill not only RoF but whole World vs World.
If I use old Tiers.
T1- 6 ranks difference
T2 – 9 ranks
T3 -4 ranks
T4- 7 ranks
T5- 6 ranks
T6 -9 ranks
T7 – 9 ranks
T8 -5 ranks
T9 – 3 ranks (yes this one with Vabbi and FoW is always bad)

And only T1 is surprise. Rest of the fights already have a winner.
I think new system stabilized it or did not?

Only one thing: remove current matchup system.

Dear Anet,
are you joking? Please look at history of RoF matchups with current system.
At the change, we won against WSR and Arb.The your RNG send us down to fight Vabbi and FoW. Rank 22 then fight rank 17 Underworld and Blacktide. It was nice matchup, but Underworld have bigger numbers.
RoS-RoF-WSR really nice close matchup and probably last enemies we faced with similiar coverage. We were second,we doesn? even won, RoS did. And RNG throw RoS to fight Vabbi and FoW.
We got Gandara and Miller’s, rank 12,13 and 21 in one matchup. Go please see the history. RNG send us again to fight FoW and Vabbi.
And this matchup we face Gandara and Drakkar. Rank 12,17 and 21.

So in last 6 resets with current “stabilizating” system we had 1 even match and 5 blowouts. Does this seem to you as stabile system?
Every friday we pray for DZ,GH,WSR,BT,ARB,RoS but no.

If you look on numbers in EU bracket. There is normal to fight 9 ranks different server with difference of almost 300k points.

How long we need to wait until you make new blog post about changing WvW matchups? You say give it few weeks. They is no way that you will fight 9 ranks different servers (currently 3 matchups with 9 ranks difference).
But on regular base this system is much much worse. You need at least to lower randomly generated number so you wont servers 9 ranks higher.

WoW nice matchup. Better than FoW and Vabbi.

AG vs GH vs RoF

Royce Melborn.3276:

Just 1 more days of this guys….. just 1 more day.

I was saying this last matchup with you guys. Cya in 3 weeks.

Thx to all FoW guys who come to have duels. Really nice fights.

Just dont expect instantaneous and you will be fine.
But really, lower delay should be better. Maybe 1/2 of second rather than 1/4

Yes they play, but dont focus on WvW like last week. Or other weeks we fight against stronger enemies.
PvE’ers just came to WvW because we are winning not to help fight.Otherwise they came last week when we were loosing.(and this is the same on every server,not only RoF)
When you see one thief roaming on your BL, PvE player will start to chase him,alone or in group. Good WvWer will just go to camp where thief is heading and wait for him there. (why? because on camp there are no mobs thief can ress from)
And why we have full map? Maybe because RoF have better numbers, doesn’t matter if WvW’ers of PvE’ers.

Dont forget,guys. Tuesday 7pm UK time Vabbi borderland at Mill down at soutch camp. Guild vs Guild,duels.

But but but, that will destroy this game based on 5vs5? Wont it? Specially in WvW where the most common fights are 5vs5. There is no fight of larger group. /sarcasm

And people keeps saying it from beta, and devs just dont listen.

The problem with stealth is that it do not cancel at damage. If you just think ybout invisibility, there are many ways to counter it. Most common use is throw something kitten possible place and if it hit anything, there is stealthed person. Examples like throwing sand to stick it on stealth opponent.
But in this game, even if you hit something stealthed, you dont see that it hit. You have no idea it hit something.
Wierd is that if I try to hit Stalker (mob in PvE) that is stealthed, my fireball stops in air. Mobs are going straight for you, you can try it. Sometimes you just throw fireballs on his last position, they explode in air, you got exp, and few secs ago mos unstealth.
But throwing fireball on stealthed thief last position, and he is standing there, just flew throught him, damage him and continue to fly on its trace. In WvW you can test it, just party some enemy thief and test it with him.

Better grouping system should be in game from begining. I dont get why Anet thinks that for WvW is 5-man enought. Commander squad is not a group, just closed chat channel.

Hey Varach, nice duels. I’ll tell my guildmate to put those horns up again at Tuesday.

For all: Tuesday, 7pm UK time, Vabbi Windmill, from 2vs2 to many vs many only depends how many players you take to meeting.

And about RoF players behaving badly, mostly those are PvE players that come to WvW only because we are winning. You can see it on every server,not only RoF. Regular WvW RoFers just took a break for a week. Or are dueling at Vabbis.

How about some GvsG at 7 pm UK time at Vabbi border Windmill?

You think that commander MUST chat with you?
That commander badge he bought is some kind of debt to you?
You have no right to follow this commander, its just his good will that he have commander on, and Anet’s lack of grouping ingame.

And last questin: Why dont you put commander icon on and lead those non-polish players? You just need to say simple Follow me into map chat and everybody will follow you, right? You will be the hero. Dont let this to some other guy with 50 man zerg talking to them on TS and because of that having some sort of organisation. Be a hero man. Buy commander badge and lead your server to glory.

Hey you Vabbi elementalist today at FoW borderland.
Nice duel, but you were moving towards your spawn,so I quit and moved. Just explanation whey I run after 10 minutes of fight.
FoW you got some really good players and today you managed to wipe us few times. Too bad RoF players instead of fighting were just talking trash on chat. Only few of them actually listens to me, so we left Dawn’s and Garisson.
You really are better than few weeks back.

@wlado yes if you take it from this matchup. But if you take it by rating and delete last 3, RoF will stay ingame.

Well any Vabbi and FoW 5 people guild want to G vs G every day at 19 Brittish time? Just write me ingame.

@MS folks south of Bay yesterday.
Guys if you start shooting on small group, they down you and let you go. It is meant as warning. Dont try to shoot to that group again right when you heal up.

Mesmer with Null field is very good to WvW parties too.
I think Null field is one of the best skills in the game.

Yeah, thanks for nice GvG. Hopefully when we meet again in few weeks, we will give you better fight.

Down for me too. Probably preparations for update dont go so well.

jaimy.4108:

This will only punish the small organized groups in WvW because they relay on movement, were blobs can simply stand still.

Small organized groups use waterfields, condi removals.
So they dont have a problem. But those big zergs are not organized and wont stack. So they are running long pug commander and it will do them more dmg.

Mostly this happens while building siege. You get stuck inside after its build.
Swap weapon and you are ok.
Anet how will screenshot help? You will just see guys in siege, anybody can take cover in siege anytine, but stuck there is different.
Just let your devs to loging, at least 10 of them, try to build 20 FR and 20AC’s but dont be foot away from siege, sometimes during the battle you just evade to siege to help it build so you are building it while standing in it. And for sure at least one will be stuck.

I use party invite when enemy kills me so I cant bow. So i invite enemy, say Great work mate, and leave party.

Ahh who cares about win this week on RoF? 2 second after reset we knew we had bad draw. But now? Thanks to Gandara and Miller’s we learned something. Thanks to VcY on vacation,we learned something. Every blowout against stronger servers we learn something.

Don’t mess with us guys, because one day we will be back, stronger, and we will fight as hard as now, but with more people.