Guild Wars 2

HABIB IS ALIVE!!!!

Meh this is not good; my guildies will post the >9000 times I’ve done this xD

Luckily not that many of them patrol the forums…

TyrDaishi.1057:

It sounds a little bit silly that there is all this whining from “small scale players” in upper tiers (1-3). They could very much join you and help your server instead, but no, it’s more fun to complain about massive armys (In T1 we have a lot of big fights, sometimes 70vs70vs70). On the other hand you sound a bit whimsy tbh Jeroen. You are blaming others about facts they can’t really change. And I doubt that your situation will change much unless big guilds move to your server. Because by now the general population of the Servers in gw2 won’t change much. Until the game is so old that ANet needs to start closing servers.

The higher Tier small scale players I’m pretty sure feel a sense of community on their server, that’s the only reason they wouldn’t leave, that and 50g+ is a bit expensive for a WvW player. Gandara is an incredibly stable server and hasn’t had any meaningful bandwagoning to speak of, but we’ve seen many servers move up for a while on transfer-juice then come crashing down, often as a completely different server than we knew before. I think Abaddons Mouth is the latest, having been given a whole bunch of Kodash guilds, and is on the rising stage; whereas the previous one AG, will probably never be the same to play again as it’s lost a lot of its core guilds, the only one I can really speak of left is TUP, and they’ve only been there for a couple of months.

Point is transferring is A) not easy, and B) can destroy servers, a lot of people who you say could move could only do so at great expense to both themselves and their destination server.

Okay so first of all, coverage is the defining factor of WvW. No matter how strong your forces, you can get outplayed by those who play when you don’t.

Secondly; German servers in particular, I’ve noticed, have a very high emphasis on the score and points gain, which is all good, if not very fun for the rest of us.

Aurora Glade, who are atm sandwiched between Riverside and AM, have lost a lot of their prominent WvW guilds due to the frustrations of the matchup, and I’m pretty sure the server will never be the same despite being one of the new ‘transfer to’ destinations recently.

Basically the only option is to suffer through it and wait to drop in Tiers, Gandara was in the same position literally last week with RS and AG who had some large new guilds and a huge night presence at the time, and we decided we wanted to drop a Tier to give our night crew a break and get some good fights in. So far it’s going great for us and the matchup’s been awesome, tbh you can only suffer through, our fair weather players returned, and UW’s will too; it sucks but there is no solution that players have any power over, unless you have a very united community.

Yeah I believe WvW had a good op yesterday, another new leader; unfortunately I won’t be able to lead as much as I’d like to in the near future, but should be back to normal in a couple weeks.

Jaynic.5316:

@ Gandara.. hey guys ..does anyone of you know the guild Honour or knows if they are still on the server ? Been looking for them already in our last match long long time ago ^^ There are/were some mates in there who i haven’t seen for years..my last info was they have left GW2 again ..but who knows

Your guess is as good as ours I haven’t seen any of them on MS as far as I can tell, but Gandara has a few if we’re talking about the same thing, just to be sure what was their tag and leader? In-game names or alternatively account names would help tremendously, but if not the tag might be enough.

The map system is useless, the squad system is useless, but at least I can tell the supply of anyone standing between my legs :/

Squad is a joke tbh, have you tried getting pugs to all do something as complicated and baffling as that? Trust me, it’s a waste of time; pretty much because that’s what it is to them as well.

natzmc.2895:

Stop it gandara you aren’t allowed to go back up! You are to stay here and then AG can come down and then RS, AM and MS can go have a big german orgy then everyone will be happy!

I lol’d. +1

I believe Gandara has a very week night crew, the poor soldiers stuck on it had an incredibly tough times in the upper Tiers mainly because of the huge forces the other sides were fielding; so much so that we went from top T3 to bottom T4 within a few weeks, a few transfer guilds to AG, their triple 30 man night groups/guilds, and the Riversiders getting an arrow cart buff to go with their 60+ morning blob meleeing down Overlook North doors thrice over before midday, well it got a bit tedious

I think a lot of who is where in GW2 is coverage based, and guilds leapfrogging. Just glad our night crew got what seems like a well deserved break.

And we’re in the promised land of Zap farming. FSP! Did I mention the last time we fought them 3 different guildies got a Zap drop within the matchup? xD

Anyways gl with yo Arrow Carts and the endless zombie march of the Wehrmacht

Btw should I or should I not be advertising TDS on our current tier?

To AG – nah bro, have fun with ECL, good coverage and T4 xD

Good reset tonight; [WvW] was up and running 25-30 throughout the night, even though it seemed no one else was running that low xD Millers you guys be RS but more everywhere and with less superior but more normal siege, and FSP, dunno if wrong or not, but I think you had 2 different guilds, DIE and PunK, with DIE having a lot of pugs with them. It was kinda hard to tell as I never met one of you alone xD

Anyways, hopefully less blobbing and our cough, night and morning crews, can get a break. We’ll see how that turns out, wish good luck and good battles for everyone in the upcoming matchup last time I fought FSP we camped in a corner of their Garrison for 2 hours and one of my members got a Zap. (I still hate him).

Heretic! Take your organisation elsewhere, nerfbat nerfbat nerfbat nerfbat!

Umm Lloa… Hate to break it to you, but I think you might be in the wrong thread…

Don’t we all. Heaven forbid we find a commando commander

Epic. I like you, OP, though I’m not sure if serious or not

Commanders are very much OP, someone said so in another thread and I got to thinking about it, the fact is the side that has the commander versus the side without the commander always generally does better, having just 1 decent one makes your entire team win battles and take whole objectives. Isn’t that over the top? 1 player shouldn’t make so much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Well i think tomorrow is the home stretch for Gandara as to whether we’re staying in this matchup or not. Tbh I might just be rooting for giving our night/morning people a break, but we’ll see who’s where in time.

Again today’s op was interrupted by a meeting and then epic disconnecting lag afterwards, Mminas took over for the majority, I think the highlight of the evening was Aldons, though I wasn’t here for much more than that so…

On mine since the patch my effectiveness seems to have gone down a helluva lot; the unblockables and boon steals from thieves made me lose a 1v1 that I had never lost to previously and I got ripped apart by a Necro with a very large amount of bleed stacks, which ripped through my toughness with ease, losing about 2k health per second :/

Talking about Necroes in a 3-5vs1 situation xD they make it harder with those fields, in the same way that in a 3vs1 when one of them is a confusion mesmer it used to be impossible to win the fight, at least for me and most people. I believe most Guardians have high retal uptimes, if not 100% themselves, or at least a lot of the people on another thread said so Anyways it’s been nerfed now, which is okay-ish, but I’d shank anyone who tries to take away my Energy sigil. Repeatedly.

@Quenoz, I’m not one to defend Riverside, but, that looks legit. Just looking through the gap on top of the gate, yknow?

I disagree on the ‘faceroll retal buttons’ idea. Nothing about Chris’ build is easy, I’ve seen many try and fail to get it right, especially in more than 1vX situations; a good necro can easily turn the tide in one of those fights, or enough burst. Two backstabbers is generally enough, as it would be for most people; now I wholeheartedly believe that ‘The Dawnheart’ is on a completely different skill plain to me, watching his videos the way he plays it so perfectly is quite beautiful (no kitten , Retal was and is most every guardian’s most useful damage weapon, because let’s face it, we kind of got screwed over in the ranged department. Easier counters for this build have already been introduced, like the thieves having unblockables now, which counters a lot of the build’s damage negation.

As far as I know face rolling retal on this build is a complete understatement and generalisation of what is going on; yes you can take on 1v3s as long as you keep your focus and have a good understanding of the way PvP works, and they don’t. I’ve seen d/d eles fight the same fights and win, it all depends on opponent’s experience and build, which most of the time is a WvW spec rather than something built for small scale combat.

I’m still relatively fearsome on my Dawnheart-esque Guardian. I have only been beaten in 1v1 by a thief so far, which is awful as they got some unblockables and boon steals now, and I never used to lose to the guy before :/

On top of this there was a post in the WvW section going on for a few days with people trying to nerf Retaliation into the ground, calling for internal cooldowns or 50-75% dmg reduction. It’s really our only decent way of being effective at range anyway

If they change energy sigils I will seriously be annoyed as hell, ‘make it more useful’ they say; if that means anything other than buffing it to 75% endurance gain, I’m gonna go and curl up in a corner and sob myself to death. I don’t know what we can do to stop it though, apart from make a petition of some sort. Seriously it will destroy my game should it be brought about, perpetual state of dredd commenced.

You guys have it easy but boring, in my regard, I don’t want to spend a few weeks spamming F on everything to get map completion, so what? If that’s PvE and I want game completion, that being part of the game/map, I’ll go do it; Legendary peoplez more often than not just port themselves up the JP every day religiously. Map completion and Legendary are the same animals in that they both require map completion. If you just did completion like ANet probably wanted it to be done, i.e. actually got involved and played some WvW, then you could get your 500 badges in no time, just by doing that. For me WvW map completion is just something that happens, you don’t need to think about it, I just play mah game normally and it’s done within a few days. I think I got EB completion the first day of release on my old main. I don’t have to go out of m way to grind things or anything, just play WvW. Surely that would be easier than making the devs cater to your ‘I just want to walk in and walk out’ point of view, which is highly hypocritical in all fairness.

Btw, why do all Riversiders emphatically and consistently end their sentences with ‘greetz [enter character name here]’?

@Sinaya, to mimic and twist your argument,

Why do PvE’rs have to have map completion? Other than legendaries I can’t think of much, unless you like having the nice star icon next to your name that proves you’re well travelled – does this make you more effective in PvE? Not really.

WvW players should obviously not care to want Legendaries or map completion stars, seeing as having awesome aesthetics adds nothing statistically to our playstyle, we shouldn’t want them. I think tbh that I should be allowed to ‘want’ nice things, without having to jeopardise my ‘pure WvW’ playstyle, but still I have to dip myself into the unpleasant business of CoF farming to make ends meet. If we want to go do map completion for a legendary or a star icon, let us, because we have just as much entitlement as you do. We should really be complaining louder than you because we need to go for 80% to boring generic PvE zoned and slap this monster with this sword, or press F on this thing, to get those awful heart things done.

To get your legendary or your completion star, you have to work for it and dip your feet into every part of the game – complete it, some might say. That involves actually playing it, not waiting for a week so you can stroll into a tower instead. Go and fight and die for your server like the rest of us, work for your tower, capture it, fight, kill, win, make an effort; play World Versus World.

We have to press F on interactive objects all day like you PvErs, should we dare to want a nice weapon.

A few good battles this evening under the lead of Mminas, pretty awesome for his 2nd time I’d say

Had a good day today, nice balanced fights.

P.S. Riverside never blobs…

Dam you AG guys, the nightca kitten trong with you :/ caught us at the Lord at Hills with our 4 man group, which is rather unfortunate as we can’t stand against you guys with 30 each :/

This is a very important issue; Arrow Carts are so overpowered :/

It kind of makes me cry inside fighting you ECL; so many and we’re not really suited to fighting decent guilds without equal numbers; you guys smashed through us quite a lot – might have to ask Dius or another source of pro wisdom how to counter you, might be just class imbalance, we were running 20 yesterday, but the entire group laugh thing was both unnecessary and evil, even if you guys are good and helping carry AG through to T3, there’s no need to hurt my fragile feelings </3

Dunno why but half of our members don’t turn up to each Op nowadays, we have 40 online, 16 bother to show/answer, we have 30 online, we get 10 for ops :/ Sorry for not putting up too much of a fight recently.

When one of these guys busts in and ruins a perfectly good duel, if it’s obviously an accident then I make sure my duelling opponent only downs if the person doesn’t stop. That way it’s lesson learnt and he won’t feel like crap afterwards even though he came in with good intentions and only misunderstood. However if the person is coming in completely for the sake of trolling and starts cussing out everyone and their kittenz in local chat, screaming about how he will jump on his level 80 ranger and ‘kitten that kitten up’, and how we would be sorry and we messed with the wrong guy, that he is some uber pro, then comes and kills the dueller with 5 other guys and tries to establish how amazing a fighter he is… Well those I deal with differently

I still think downing is a lot better as a deterrent, and it they’re doing it in the middle of a camp then that’s a bit stupid anyway. I do think you might have just met the worst duellists on your server, and now are generalising that we’re all devil spawn, but duelling is full of very respectable, honourable people, a couple may set a bad example, but that’s the same on any server, right?

Seregon.2187:

[WvW] (the non pretentious one)

I wasn’t serious when I said my one, just a bit of fun; why make things aggressive?

[WvW] (the real one, mind) had a good reset today on EB think we had a nice badge farming session at Rogue’s, and the protracted sieges of Durios were good, as was SM – didn’t believe we could get past RS superior siege spam but we somehow managed it, we had taken down enough on the way in to weaken them for the final push playing things smart rather than just rushing the Lord helps, especially when fighting RS.

Good fights today, a lot of large zergs around though, we ended up turning on our Badge 3 hours in, that and at SM; shame we wiped at Valley lord you guys seemed to get ubernumbers from nowhere – also a cata-man was knocking us all about in there xD

Kyuzo.4675:

Retaliation just got its 33% nerf in WvW today. It was unchanged other than the graphic up to that point.

It now provides even less pressure than before but you might still want to rethink barraging large groups that have their retaliation boon up and maybe try one of the other 29 weapon skills or some of the 20+ utility skills or even possibly wait for their retaliation boon to be down

I don’t know what you guys are on, but it has been nerfed since last patch day; I main a guardian and am a duellist, I should know…

It’s not running away, it’s a strategic retreat to their panzers…

*towers full of superior carts

I still think an ICD would kill a Guardian’s ranged effectiveness and leave them sitting ducks, regardless it is the only real thing that works seeing as the staff has the range of a greatsword and the sceptre attacks seem to stop and ask for directions on the way to the target :/

Making it procc less on certain skills via 20% procc chance or something similar is the best way to go, I’m pretty certain; certainly it’s the only solution I see that can make both parties happy and not be unbalancing to anyone.

naphack.9346:

Immolator.5640:

The solution is to reduce the times it proccs on flamethrowers, nades and barrage, not destroy a guardian’s ranged viability completely.

And how do you plan on doing this without screwing up skill balance even more?

Simple; flamethrowers nades and barrage don’t procc as much on Retal… flame counts as 5 hits not 10, grenades 1/2 hits work; etc.

If it’s not that easy, which it should be, make it a multi-projectile, I.e. 20% chance to procc for those particular things…

AoE circle methinks, would be about the same size as one for siege blueprints(other than rams) – make it blue maybe for easier visibility

The solution is to reduce the times it proccs on flamethrowers, nades and barrage, not destroy a guardian’s ranged viability completely.

In all fairness, what these guys have been saying; guardian has little to no viable range, I think the one ranged aoe is the size of a large watermelon, does less dmg, and the range on everything else is pitiful that’s why we need retal, because we have to be able to not be completely useless when at range, you shouldn’t be able to neuter a profession because they physically don’t have the range to touch you.

I disagree with ICD idea, as it would definitely hurt us in 1vs1 – a ranger with the 2 long is skill bursting you for around 8-15kwhilst the skill is up is awful, and the same with a thief 8-10k unload, so don’t kill our class, protest for a more neutral arrangement – less procc on hit for Barrage/flamethrower, that’s all that needs doing; calling a general boon nerf destroys our ability to fight as a profession…

What the OP has been whining about is that the retal nerf was removed so obvious, please l2read guys!

Oh wait, the retal nerf is still there and this guy is wildly gesticulating in paranoia, cos he found one group with a high power guardian :/

Another thing, the key boon in every guild group = stability, now, how to provide this? Answer “Stand Your Ground”, ‘Hallowed Ground’, of which SYG is generally preferred for instant cast time, low recharge and because it follows you where you go, rather than reapplying 1sec in a small area for 5secs – a subsidiary of SYG is the retal; so every Zerg will have a fair amount of retal for every push, however without boon duration, it only lasts 5 seconds which isn’t too much to worry about, unless you’re fighting a Zerg of guardians.

Please do not get Retal nerfed to confusion levels, confusion really only needed a 25-33% decrease and a removal of procc on dodge/tornado bug, now it’s a little saddening for any of the mesmers who need to fork out for new gear completely. Retal you can complain to get the flamethrower hit count/procc down maybe, but don’t destroy it completely, pl0x

I think we spent a lot of today’s ops avoiding fights In our defense we were running 17 with a couple alts and aren’t specc’d for Dius-style 300battles, so yknow, when we see 2 AR guild groups with 40+pugs coming towards us, we kited and led around a bit before engaging, I think we trolled RG a bit at Godslore, but I think there’s no one who can take them on with half their numbers, heck there are only a few who can take them one with equal/higher numbers. Anyways that’s why we played cautious tonight, that and I dc’d towards the start and waited in the queue half an hour to return :/ good teamwork with Dius, we were generally keeping 2 AR zergs busy for them

I got the same problem with a cannon at Overlook, had to waypoint and return to it, I also couldn’t use any skills on it etc.

So umm… my deepest condolences for anyone fighting Riverside…

[WvW] had fun running our Asura Ele ops today, we fought and laughed our level 5 hearts out, 20 meteor showers in the same place is amazing xD we soldiered on despite a few wipes from FURY, the first time a few laughed at us, which was mean after by broke our 9 armour shoes as well, and wiped a few times again to TUP, however won against an AR Zerg of 30-40, albeit with meteor shower spam whilst we had them cornered

Bzzzt rtl spam is also quite fun, however we didn’t feel as inclined to get into close quarters with you guys! It was a painful evening but very fun, most of us will be deleting those chars now, so expect a sylvari flower power zerg next week, hippies everywhere!

Thanks for the fights

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Rank 120 – Legend
Rank 240 – Bronze Legend
Rank 360 – Silver Legend
Rank 480 – Gold Legend
Rank 600 – Platinum Legend

Rank 601 – “Forever Alone”

I lol’d

Fun reset for us, 1st time I was leading in a week or so… SanG from AR ninja-int everything xD, that time at Anza was hilarious.

I think the guilds from AG were DAWN, rddt and RL, though I couldn’t tell cos they were all on top of each other…. Only kidding, but I believe we got wiped twice by all 3 of you, and once by DAWN/rddt at Bravost, which was a bit mean as we were just peacefully sightseeing…

Hoping for some more good fights soon, my time playing is limited by exams atm, so won’t see me out on the field as much, but we’ll see how it goes.

Hmm I thought they did if not I haven’t noticed it, I think I should of as I do a lot of Mesmer fighting/getting slaughtered by, but maybe I’m just derping

So far I’ve been a part of two duelling guilds with the same goals, Eternal Duelist Gathering [DUEL] which is mostly based off Augury Rock and Piken, though for a few Gandarans and starting with BB atm, and the Tyrian Duelling Society [TDS], based off AG and with around 40 Gandaran/FarShiverpeaks/BB/Riverside people and as far as I know growing. Every tier seems to have one of these, and they all seem to want to span every server… (In EU), so, being a bit harsh here, but what makes this one special? Apart from the cliché name, of course…

Beri.3156:

Thx for lovely battles TDA. Unfortunately [WvW] guild likes to backstab and ruin good fights =( They were atleast double our numbers in that camp fight
In the end i have had very good day in WvW.

You kidding me, right? We were running 25 at that camp fight, and it was a members fire ever time leading, having bought a badge an hour earlier -.- plus you can’t talk about double numbers :/ hypocritical much…

Just because our newest inexperienced leader couldn’t distinguish ‘oh they want to fight, let’s leave them alone’ rather than ‘we need that camp and TDA might need help, let’s go and help them’ doesn’t mean we were ‘backstabbing’. I don’t think this is a good impression you’re making, DAWN, and I don’t appreciate it.
-ominous thunder-

AG seems to be getting so many new guilds recently, RL have popped up running more organised groups along with DAWN; ECL and BOON have appeared… You guys must be the new favourite transfer destination…

And to the MNSG dudes under Lady Trashcan or w/e tonight, we all hate you, it’s not cool to Zerg duellists repeatedly, especially when you can barely kill one of them when you do. You guys have lost a lot of respect that I’m not sure you had to begin with. Not cool bros, not cool.

Terra Dactyl.2047:

Hule.8794:

Bunter.3795:

Oh don’t work or get another job, great bit of logic there.

There is a little difference.
Work is needed because you want money to have good life.
Sleep is base human need. Its not your choice to sleep or not to sleep.

Some people dont go to work. They go to school, or are rich and dont work. Some people work at shifts. But each of this human need sleep. Its not choice to have comfort life, its basic need.

But on other had, will be better time than 5pm if reset will be 2am your time? EU and Oceanic players will agree with this change. And finally you wont need to quit job to play.

Actually I think that many EU players will be at reset. i saw it last week. I also was one of EU player sleeping on his keayboard, and left at 2am, few minutes before reset, because I could not hold my eyes open.

Sleeping 2 am to 10 am is more or less the same as sleeping 12 am to 8 am on a saturday (aside from being more tired when you went to bed). You were not giving up sleep entirely, you were staying up late and sleeping in on a weekend, which is entirely normal for humans to do. Sleep hours (easily made up on weekends by sleeping in) are not equivalent to work hours (generally not easy to make up) , stop trying to say they are.

Worst case scenario you slept 2 less hours than you normally did, which is also completely normal for humans to do on an occasional basis (school/work projects, trouble falling asleep, got home later than you normally did because you went to some social event, etc.).

The only people I know whose schedules are so rigid that they NEVER go to bed later than a certain time are my grandparents, who are almost 90 years old.

(side note: Food and shelter are also base human needs, which cost… wait for it…. money. Oh right, that’s why we work. So we have places to live and can feed our families. There goes your “quit your job” argument.)

I’m sorry but this one was a bit special. 2am till 10am? You think we stay up till 2 in the morning, wait for it to reset, then go to bed? You, sir, are a very funny man.

Latest I’ve been up since reset was 6am in the morning, woke up at 10, and then continued with my day whilst feeling like crap, because some people go out on Saturdays, or have a social life of some sort.