Guild Wars 2

Slyk.1452:

we placed out a golem to kill it off to open room for siege , and strange how when crystal desert came across it they hesitated to destroy it , and took off, mean while sbi took it down without hesitation ,, and we placed siege in supply camps and same thing happened , crystal desrt hesitated and moved along , but soon after sbi took it down , ,. and them aren’t the only two times , seems theyres some internal knowledge about wwether or not to destroy our siege , which is by no means implying cd is completely responsiblem but it seems pretty obvious , to take orders not to take down a golem ,, hmmmmm

Omg suspicious behaviour! They couldn’t possibly have had something under attack to go save, could they?

Another thing, golems don’t count towards the siege cap

Pray tell, friend, why doth thou stand in front of a shotgun? It’s like standing in the middle of a nuclear explosion; you’re more likely to die. Spread shot is pretty useless other than that as it requires you to be on level ground to the targets, which is rather annoying.

Still, let’s stand in front of this shotgun, pure logic. The further you are away from a spread shot firing weapon of any kind, the less effect/chance of hitting you if has – do not stand at point blank range you ninny.

We started under Az’s leadership, ofc he dc’d so I led for the next hour, then I dc’d, so we had to ask Reunen if he could, which he kindly agreed to, coordinating closely with the other group I think, after that I had to go about a minute after I got in, but Az magically got through his queue and connection issues, and I don’t know anything about it from there!

Been a rough night, dc is evil, it seems to only target our leaders :/

I’m pretty sure there were around 100 AG in SM when they took it from us at reset, they were completely covering The Lord room, the corridors, the ramps to the upper floor – rather depressing tbh… well it looks like we’re in for another week of double teaming down EB side anyway, happens to the weaker of the three, but I do believe it’s only coverage-wise…

AG seem to have so many newly transferred guilds, just this reset DAWN running around 30 or maybe 40, seeing as they reappeared in SM 5 seconds after we thought we wiped them – running 20-20 maybe.

Wamgor.9347:

A bit disappointed to be honest that some guilds felt the need to blob up though just to combat us… Dius and Os

I only respond to this, which anyone can see is putting down Dius, implying that they’re consciously making a decision – ‘oh it’s TUP, we can’t possibly fight them, lets blob up and call everyone in the borderland to help us hurrhurr’ – when both you and I know that assuming anything of the sort from Dius is both moronic and fooling yourself.

Ragnar and I are merely on the defensive, I only mention that I see a lot of these kind of posts from you, so either you’re trolling or idk, something… and you can’t it, judging from calling us both ‘trolls’ and ‘baiters’ immediately -_- Read your quote and tell me that that’s not something passive-aggressive and chiding, that we shouldn’t be indignant about…

Bella.6432:

Immolator.5640:

We’ve had to deal with this for 8 months, we don’t have a ‘major community event full of thrillz and excitement’, we have a caffeine-driven, groggy, wearying journey of perseverance and who falls asleep at their keyboard first. Not to mention my stomach’s rumbling the entire time – need moar noodles – don’t have time to go get food whilst leading; making everyone wait 5 minutes so you can go get food isn’t exactly a nice thing to do when they’ve stayed up ’til all hours in the morning to attend the event.

NA dudes, I know this sucks for you, it sucked for every EU player who wanted to get a decent night’s sleep each week, and for every EU player who doesn’t want to wake on Saturday feeling like a pile of kitten (which btw we do, trust me, I’ve done it) and for every EU player who can’t stay up until 5am in the morning due to irl constraints.

Can’t you guys deal with it for like one week, then you can shaft us again and we’ll continue bearing the burden for you like we’ve been doing for 8 months? I just want to sleep for once without feeling like I’m betraying my server/guildies…

You EU players certainly have my sympathy, you probably now have it from most of the other NA players .. It seems most of us never even knew of your plight with reset night. I mean, you are a seperate set of servers, we can’t guest there, and personally, I thought you were just like us.

I was under the assumption that if I decided to play on your servers, your reset would be at least 5 hours before the one I was used to because of the time difference, so instead of 7 or 8pm eastern, it would be at 2 or 3pm GMT.

Obviously I don’t read enough.. and tend to make assumptions based on what seems most logical. :P

I truly am sorry you guys have had to deal with this sort of thing for 8mos and that it’s taken this long to get any sort of solution that was at least somewhat beneficial for all of you. I honestly had no idea, I mean, there was no reason for me to even look at the goings on with EU servers seeing I didn’t and couldn’t play on them.

This doesn’t mean that I agree with what Anets done, with many of us already looking at other games because it took so long to fix WvW, the taking away of the one thing that kept us playing, the Friday night reset event, is sort of the nail in the coffin for many of us as far as GW2 goes.

We’ve lost many dedicated players in the past because of things not being fixed, causing WvW to lose it’s appeal to many. Recently it’s been so much better, we’ve even had PvE’ers who never WvW joining us on Friday nights as they began to discover how much fun WvW could be… and then Anet does this..

I’m sure people will adjust. For the EU players, I am glad that you’ve finally gotten Anet to listen, but for many of us NA players, I can’t help but be quite sad really. Our one big server wide event destroyed as so many will be unable to attend now.

Playing with them is what made it such a big deal, so much fun, and is the one thing that kept a lot of us in WvW and playing GW2 at all. Sure, many will still play regardless, but sadly, there will be many who will not.

This time change just shows how little Anet understands about the community we have on our servers, how important the players are to one another, and unfortunately, shows their lack of concern for us altogether, as they continually do things which cause us to be so disgruntled.

WvW being broken for MONTHS.. many people left after being so fed up.
EU? 8 Months of having a totally ridiculous reset time!??!
And now this fix — taking away reset night for a good portion of people on NA servers.

Amen, +1, etc. I wuv you. People read this stuff plz ^ it’s surprisingly and endearingly both neutral and sympathetic, best and most persuasive post I’ve seen on this thread methinks… Bella you givez us hope for the attitude of the GW2 community!

Meh Wamgor? The ‘you did this once ever I hate you and have lost all respect for you’ post? I’m sure Dius didn’t mean to blob anything… more likely just searching for their lost cat in amongst the zergers… for a small kitty it can move remarkably far from Godword :P

Does TUP have another forum representative? Sorry m8 but at times I just find what you post rather irritating and whiny… troll-like sometimes…

We’ve had to deal with this for 8 months, we don’t have a ‘major community event full of thrillz and excitement’, we have a caffeine-driven, groggy, wearying journey of perseverance and who falls asleep at their keyboard first. Not to mention my stomach’s rumbling the entire time – need moar noodles – don’t have time to go get food whilst leading; making everyone wait 5 minutes so you can go get food isn’t exactly a nice thing to do when they’ve stayed up ’til all hours in the morning to attend the event.

NA dudes, I know this sucks for you, it sucked for every EU player who wanted to get a decent night’s sleep each week, and for every EU player who doesn’t want to wake on Saturday feeling like a pile of kitten (which btw we do, trust me, I’ve done it) and for every EU player who can’t stay up until 5am in the morning due to irl constraints.

Can’t you guys deal with it for like one week, then you can shaft us again and we’ll continue bearing the burden for you like we’ve been doing for 8 months? I just want to sleep for once without feeling like I’m betraying my server/guildies…

Eliyahu.1467:

Immolator.5640:

I just don’t want to be dazed for 10 or 5 seconds then reapplied the same 5-10 seconds later :/ it makes fighting more than 1 person impossible, and it’s hard in 1v1s anyway, even though I have a counter, aka sit there and hope they don’t have anything that does any damage except for confusion, or try my cleanses, each around 30 sec cd yeah I’ve seen how that ends, and only 1 removes enough conditions to have a chance against confusion! Yay!

Remove proc on dodge so I stand a chance please, or do I have to change my build and not to past 14 in Valor/Honor/whateveritis? forgotten now, but that’s kitten :P I can’t attack through it or anything because guardians + low health pool + toughness being completely useless against it = very vulnerable guardian. Lemme dodge kittenit! :’( </3

Actually it’s worse than a daze, because in a daze you can actually dodge…

From the perspective of shatter confusion mesmers (becuase if you lose to a glamour mesmer in a duel…..lol):

Confusion from shatters has base duration of 3 seconds. Most condition mesmers will be running +73% confusion duration from traits and food. That means confusion will typically on last a maximum of 5.25 seconds. If you completely fail to dodge the shatters, you will have 12 stacks of confusion on you. Meanwhile, the mesmer cannot do much damage to you because condition specced mesmers hit like wet noodles outside of confusion. If you wait the 5.25 seconds without cleansing it, you will absolutely still be alive so long as you don’t spam your abilities.

Oh, and your cleanses are on a 30 second cooldown are they? Guess what? Cry of Frustration is on a 30 second cooldown too, and that is responsible for 8 of those stacks of confusion.

The only other significant source of confusion of a mesmer is the scepter #3 ability, Confusing Images. It has a 3 second cast time and shoots a bright purple beam at you and can be avoided by walking around the mesmer because the beam does not follow the target well. It applies 5 stacks of confusion over the 3 second cast time at a base duration of 5 seconds. + Condition duration brings the duration up to 8.5 seconds.

You have several options here to avoid Confusing images:

1. Walk around or through the mesmer, the target is likely to drop.
2. If there is terrain around, try to LoS the beam.
3. Dodge.
4. Interrupt the mesmer.
5. Cleanse the confusion.
6. Wait out the confusion. Scepter autoattacks are power based with a low damage modifier. The confusion mesmer also only has about 1000 power. You will not take significant damage.

All of these require you and the Mesmer to be the only person attacking you… If you’ve ever been in WvW, you will know that is almost never the case… On top of that, can we stop saying ‘Cleanse’ is viable? Because it most definitely isn’t, seeing as confusion is always always always removed last, so technically I only have one capable condition removal, which is on a 40 second cool down and is also a heal, which makes it oh so viable to save for each confusion stack -.- and that’s only if there aren’t 4-5+ conditions on me, if so then it won’t work.

I don’t know how you see that standing doing absolutely nothing is ever an option in a firefight… only an idiot would do that when fighting 2-3 enemies or even one, that’s why dazes and stuns only work for 2 seconds at most, and are insta-removable by an actual counter, aka the stun-break… furthermore these can be completely negated via stability, which is what makes them reasonable. Also the entire idea that people have dodges to save especially for shatter or something in the middle of a fight is incredibly flawed and a bit stupid.

Agreed, too many times have Golem trolls ruined would-be victories… I remember one dude getting each of the golems and jumping them off the keep… So depressing.

And hence split reset times will be a well-anticipated change and a long time coming… I am not happy that you guys got screwed over, but I’m happy that all of EU are now getting less screwed over, and that now you guys feel our pain, so we can complain about it together and feel a certain level of empathy towards one another etc. etc. blah blah blah.

I’ll still love that I might get more than 10 players to reset! Out of 250 with Ops running ~30 per day, I think you can see the problem this reset time has – a few nights I’ve just skipped it because I can’t be bothered to command until 5:00 in the morning and then wake up later to see it’s been capped over by DE/FR/SP nightcap crews, all of which are insanely large btw :P it gets both depressing and wearying after a while, putting yourself out to achieve this only to see all your effort wasted when you wake up 4 hours later feeling like crap…

8 months. 8 months of staying awake on pure caffeine-induced energy…

Thank the Six that we’ve finally got something to alleviate this a bit, NA dudes can quit whining for a bit plz, I respect where you’re coming from, but you can’t just start crying your eyes out when we’ve been going through worse for the entirety that that game existed ty, tell me you’d sit through 8 months of 1-2am resets and then watch some dudes with a nice peachy 7pm play time cry the first time they get something resembling a problem that you’ve had for the entire game :/ we’re more likely to be happy we’ve finally got something, you guys sitting pretty at an actual feasible time and then whining is more likely to receive skepticism and rolling of eyes than sympathy, where the hell is our sympathy?

Thank you Devon, for caring about those who have been consistently screwed over since release

KISS be quiet, XxX be quiet would make this thread less popcorn worthy.

I appreciate both of your efforts, XxX for killing loads of dudes and fighting for Gandara’s and stuff, and KISS for your flame ram tactics and the percentage of badges we get from you guys (I’m sure your server appreciates you more but less whining from everyone would be very nice.

No offense Nem, but every single week I see you guys involved in a discussion about numbers and arguing about it throughout the thread with whoever you’ve acxused or whoever has accused you, no matter how wrong they are -‘no u noob’ ‘we had this number’, does it not get repetitive at times? You guys are good at what you do, and we know there’s a language barrier and stuff, but if I’m being harsh I think you guys sound a bit too whiny on the forums, stop talking to them and prove them wrong by wiping their assumedly sorry kittens, y’know?

KISS we know you’re on of the less appreciated AG guilds, seeing as I think you’re supposed to be larger or something, or less difficult to fight in some ways, but stop baiting the XxX guys, and don’t rise to any comments they make/glad them yourselves :/ i swear we can’t have one week without several days of drama like this, and Dius seem to be more uptight with the popcorn these days -_- I’m sure you were the sole reason that you were ticking [insert number nominally higher than the other two] at some given point in time, and I’m sure you guys never ran low on supplies for many hours, but we don’t need to hear about all your accomplishments, I’m sure my fellow Gandarans are just posting in frustration because they couldn’t kill you and your allies, so why not mention that in a non-hostile way, instead of ‘we camped that supply camp and we onnlly were running 45 in our guild group, but because of that we held back 52 guild groups and constantly were ticking >9000’, which I think is overcreditting yourselves in a way. You could say ‘because we holding X at this location, our lovely and capable team mates were able to do Y and hence we achieved Z, which is why we did X’ or something non-evil, you know?

I’ve forgotten what my poin- oh yeah, play nice children…

Corran.4957:

heh.

Danger… how many points did you gain in your time on your boarder? We were just farming you (3-4levels, 5k a level, from just kills. And alot were worthless as you died so often).

Was actually about 45 people though btw. So not as bad as you seem to think. And what did we succeed at? Well we kept WvW, Dius, XxX of our boarder whilst putting in very little effort and….. HAVING FUN.

By keeping you all busy there. We were pretty much 70-100pts a tick ahead of Gandara all night (and alot more ahead of RS). Simply because we had most of your best players held up and away from our holdings.

Also, please note. Was more then 5pts. We had briar too

Awwww did he just include me as ‘one of our best players’? I like this guy! What was the rest of the post about then?

Dana Hawkeye.9724:

Am I just bugging or is the only way to see this post to quote it?

Ragnar.4257:

eventually running CoF P1 is going to get boring, and realise that there’s no point having a shiny legendary if the only person who sees it is friggin Magg

Am I the only one profusely smiling at this comment? genius

(I can’t believe he said that btw, hilarious though it was, everyone know Magg is featured primarily in P2 – if you go P1 you get both Magg annnnd Crusader Ferrah checking out your rainbow unicorn swag!)

My sense of achievement was lost when I figured out that despite having spent 2k hours in WvW, leading, fighting, dancing previously, to all of my enemies I look worse than that PvE nob thief dual wielding incinerator on ‘Eskimo’ 130 rank, having started at the same level as me and wxp-trained his way through, no job, no sense of fatigue and hyped up constantly on coffee. Slight exaggeration, but way to reward your average faithful veteran WvW player, ANet! ;)

sobs in corner (again)

I just don’t want to be dazed for 10 or 5 seconds then reapplied the same 5-10 seconds later :/ it makes fighting more than 1 person impossible, and it’s hard in 1v1s anyway, even though I have a counter, aka sit there and hope they don’t have anything that does any damage except for confusion, or try my cleanses, each around 30 sec cd yeah I’ve seen how that ends, and only 1 removes enough conditions to have a chance against confusion! Yay!

Remove proc on dodge so I stand a chance please, or do I have to change my build and not to past 14 in Valor/Honor/whateveritis? forgotten now, but that’s kitten :P I can’t attack through it or anything because guardians + low health pool + toughness being completely useless against it = very vulnerable guardian. Lemme dodge kittenit! :’( </3

Actually it’s worse than a daze, because in a daze you can actually dodge…

Caid.4932:

Immolator.5640:

cough cough 3omega7alpha on our keep in the early morning when we were outmanned cough -

The legend grows by the second, it was really 52 omegas.
No seriously it wasn’t THAT bad. 1 omega, 8 alphas, 4 superior catas an arrow cart or two and a few flame rams … maybe it was that bad.

Caid, you know I was there, right? Are we talking about the same keep?

Signature golem rush? :/ you sir, need to get out of the sun, methinks

Granted we’ve been in the matchup 2 days or so, but even by now you should know that Riverside has more money to spend than is good for it, – cough cough 3omega7alpha on our keep in the early morning when we were outmanned cough – also the entire omgplaceasmanysuperiorcarts/trebuchets/catas/siegeweaponsinHills-aspossibleafterGolemrushingit-alsoataround5:00amtrollollolol, which they did last time we faced them as well, kind of has a lot of Gandarans despairing again </3.

But yeah, we do oh so many golem rushes… :P

Most of the reasons /say chat destroys squad in terms of usefulness every time, are that people will actually read the chat bubble rather than their chat bar, and it’s impossible to get people in your squad.

As of a while I’ve just said ‘screw this’ and moved to guild group and TS commanding entirely, you want to not wipe/know what we’re doing, what’s going on/win? Get the hell on TS then!

I agree that at times it’s fun, but wouldn’t it be nice to, you know, have ‘nice things’? I wouldn’t mind a fiery sword or some cultural T3 armour, or yknow, something that looked nice – unfortunately anything with a nice skin is generally over my 3g price limit, which is okay sometimes as I make about that much in a month, but yknow…

What I’m saying is I’d like some nice gear kittenit! Those PvErs toting their legends dies suck kittens at combat but they still look more kitten than me :/ except when I’m standing alone in the middle of an invader-corpse littered floor (when I say littered I mean 5)

Ross Biddle.2367:

I hear Devon is collecting the tears of WvW’rs, and through a mix of science and magic, turning them into gold. With that gold he is going to build a space ship and fly us all to a galaxy made of pure awesome where we will live out our days in perfect WvW’ness.

If you just give him a little bit more time we’ll see those changes you’re after. One step at a time folks. One step at a time.

So- so- so beautiful!

-breaks down sobbing in happiness-

Esprit Dumort.3109:

I don’t have an issue with the gold accumulation, I have fun, and that’s more important to me than increased rewards. But, on the flip side, I would love to have a use more my Badges of Honor. I have the weapons and armor I need.

We were told we’d be able to get Ascended items with badges, but that hasn’t happened. Ectos, laurels, pristine relics, commendations, and gold can be used to get Ascended gear, but my badges gather dust.

Is fine for you to say Esprit! I seen you toting around that Anomaly and whisperblade! You betrayed us for PvE!

I very very strongly agree with the OP, my thief main was carrying rares all his life and recently still has rare weapons despite temple armour when I revisited him; I had to reclothe him in beserkers gear for cof, am now in debt to my friend for 30g :/

I got my guardian gear in HotW after many painstaking and boring runs, took me around 3 months to fully acquire, I now have to do CoF speed clear to get anything near decent money and because I want ‘Firebringer’, which is a completely ridiculous goal for a WvW player to have, let alone anything with charged lodestones. I expect to get it in a week now, thanks to CoF, but it doesn’t mean I don’t hate that it’s mandatory to go play PvE for a few hours every day doing the same hint over and over for a few gold just so I can have something I like the skin of. Don’t even get me started on getting a transmutation stone for it after -.-

The hard, unfair truth is, WvW players can’t have ‘nice things’.

Devon, please please please for the sake of the kittens and every WvW player who looks upon PvErs wielding legendaries, thinks I’ll see what that costs, looks and goes into a coma for the rest of his life – for every WvW player who can’t buy anything outside a 3G price range whilst spending his hard earned and grinded money to protect his homeland from Invaders via siege weapon defences, to upgrade his server’s forts to keep them safe from an unknown enemy, read. This. Thread!

-breaks down sobbing in corner-

[rant over]

I hear you AG guys are getting some new guilds! Let’s hope for your sakes you aren’t the new favourite transfer location, I would rather certain guilds didn’t show up and break your server (subtle RG hint

What I don’t understand is how people can think this is completely fine?

Lets see – it proccs when you dodge, it proccs when you attack, it proccs when you heal it proccs when you change attunement it proccs when you do pretty much anything. Sitting still and doing nothing is a completely stupid and illogical solution when you’re in the midst of combat and fighting for your life, you can not sit still and do nothing for 10 seconds. I fight many 1vs3 or 1vs5 fights, if one of them is a confusion Mesmer/engineer I have by default lost that fight, by the same token if 2+ are backstab bursts thieves then I’ve probably lost the fight, but that’s acceptable because no one can win against 2 or more thieves unless they’re really bad, pretty much because they’re impossible to finish, shadow refuge from both of them makes it even more so.

Confusion needs changing.

kribre.9683:

@ immolator, wonder how you saw 30-40 UNTY, as we never were more than 20 and only 1 mesmer. Well, I guess thamks for the compliment were you thougt we were that many also after the patch we were just 8 rly dont know how many u were runninh with as I’ve given uo to count all the people chasing us halfway across the entire map all the time

You forget your pugs and like I said, we stopped when the patch came, but thanks for the compliment, seeing as we were 0 and you thought still there. Definitely over 30 with your pugs. In our defence we didn’t chase you much, and the only time we did it was just for some easy badges. Really wasn’t all that fun yesterday with the patch and 3 AG guilds running around to our 1. IC were there but in lower numbers, even though they did do a fair bit of damage, we couldn’t really compete with 3 full guilds, (TUP should really count for 2, they hit as hard) , even though we kind of had more points on the map than you.

^ confusion doesn’t do damage relating to yours, it does it if you try to play :P

Oh stahp moaning Mr Cactus, all he’s saying is that it would be cool if… Etc. no need have a tantrum over harmless speculation, so he wasn’t around in beta days, so what?

@VOLKON I think it would stop the trebuchet-firing from fortifications a bit, or with a possible increase on the siege cap you could have 6 Trebuchets in once location firing in a spread shot formation anything reflected comes back in one place, nice and easy to re-reflect especially if you synchronised firing.

It would add some lulz to WvW at least and mix up gameplay a little, maybe make some people think more creatively, maybe better to do this as an April Fools than a permanent thing though from the people’s attitudes; it’s more fun than effective.

You have no idea how ironic what you just said was Esprit no idea I won’t ruin it for you…

Amen to this thread!

Confusion is definitely OP, mostly because whilst all of you ‘l2pers’ are sitting around waiting for confusion to fall off, you’re taking direct damage or dying from 6 other conditions. You can’t ‘cleanse’ when Confusion is hidden under 7 other or even 2 other conditions, because the last condition to ever be removed is always Confusion, everything else goes, but the most powerful one is omnipresent and impossible to get rid of.

I’ve only ever ever been beaten in 1vs1 against 3 different mesmers and 1 engineer, all of which were running, you guessed it, confusion builds! 3vs1? Easy, assuming it isn’t 3 backstab thieves. 3vs1 with one of the 3 being a confusion Mesmer/Engineer = death. Same with 2vs1 and same with 5vs1, a 10 second daze is just overpowered, and I can’t dodge because I take confusion damage, I can’t heal because I take confusion damage, half my healing gone from that, I can’t maintain pressure on the enemy because of confusion damage, and I can’t just stand there doing nothing because I die from all of the mesmer’s other skills, he won’t be sitting there on his kitten doing nothing either to be polite, of that I assure you.

Anything I do except for walk punishing me with 2k+ damage whilst the enemy can use all of his skills is just stupid, I have condition removal, 3 skills each removing one and 1 skill removing 3, but once those are all gone it’s useless, and most of them do nothing except remove the one stack of bleed I had, or stop me being blind or remove weakness, which is so important -.-

I would settle for a removal of procc on dodge and a priority removal on this, but something, at least, definitely needs to happen.

The best way of learning is just to do it tbh it depends on which server you’re on also, a big T1 server might cry at you more if you do make a mistake your first time leading, as it might be more of a big deal for them.

My advice is to follow other commanders around and see stuff they do, especially those you think are ‘good’; asking them for pointers helped also.

Furthermore there are just a few general tips I can give:
• With pugs/randoms, using /say chat is generally the best, stand where they can see the speech bubbles.
• Pick your targets wisely, assuming EBG, you won’t want to go for a Tower like Veloka as it’s invariably well defended and easily defendable. You need to look at the map to figure out if any of your own objectives are being attacked and if so, don’t go on the offensive so soon.
• Learn to read the map, you should know just from the map where all the T3 locations are, where big battles are occurring, and hence which targets are most viable and how distracted the enemy defenders will be at any given moment.
• Always keep your group supplied and carry siege with you, you can get your Zerg to stand on you so as to check their supply and number with the /supplyinfo command.
• Try to deal with things in a level-headed way, be amicable in your commands and never rude, don’t feed the trolls.
• Deal with situations in different ways – if need be, set up catapults and dig in further away to siege a Tower, rams aren’t always effective and can be easily countered.
• Know your limits, generally for pug commanders, organised enemy guild groups are jar to wipe, likewise relative numbers matter, 30 of you and 50 of them means you’re probably better off targeting the 3rd server or attacking with speed whilst they are distracted – don’t engage in fights you can’t win.

The rest comes with experience, and you won’t get that by sitting down waiting for it get out there and command, and good luck to you hope this helps you find your feet.

Well we had a rude awakening in BB Borders when 5 minutes into our Op we got hit by TUP 20-25, tail cut off by KISS with 30-40 and sandiwched between the former and UNTY with 30-40 also, all within the space of 10 minutes. Despite this AG only owned one Tower in the entire borderlands o.O

After this we fought some BB zergs and wiped TUP once due to mah pro ‘jump up this wall quickly so they can’t follow us then charge them’ strategy. A camp fight with UNTY and a BB blob was also decent, but the rest was cut short due to the evil update, decided we didn’t want to return and get 3-wayed by AG guilds afterwards.

Thanks for the fights guys, will also be returning to the windmill soon to see if anyone new comes for duels fingers crossed

So I think the most notable event I’d been a part of was the EBG jumping puzzle, where literally 40 AG were, most of which were GWSA guild waiting for portal… So i was up top when this Mesmer came along, he jumped down and – well it was too tempting, so I Sanctuary’d the portal, up they go then plop back down was surprised no stability pop, but I got a lot of lootbags from that. Later I knocked all their mesmers (4) from the top chest, which kind of served them right for all grouping up on an edge

Quite fun that, and tbh I think I was doing AG a favour; I did tell the Gandaran commander of the time to concentrate Red side though.

Meh i’m annoyed with it as well, I was one of the players who did 3hrs a day since BWEs and all of it leading, now patch comes along and mindless blob farmers are in much higher regard, even though I have 10x more experience than any of them wish these things were retroactive; kind of annoying I’m way behind anyone in my guild despite being the Commander and leader…

Andovar Edoras.2143:

If only A.G. would be green for once…absolutely everyone is saying how they want the vistas and points there

You want our Vistas, you want our PoIs?!

Well come and take them then! readies greatsword

Rank means nothing I believe… oh I haven’t been out with the WXP blob constantly since the patch – it means nothing.

I’ve got over 2k hours WvW time logged, leading since BWE1, and got an awesome WvW guild to boot, I did all of my grinding and unfaltering dedication to the job then, woke up in the morning, got into the battlegrounds and commanded, without the badge until I got it, and kept leading since. Just because I don’t choose to ride the WXP train everywhere and renew my fanatic and oftentimes sad dedication to it, doesn’t mean I’m a bad commander to be ignored -.- if these things were retroactive I would agree with you, but they’re not, so I couldn’t be more opposed to the idea.

[rant over]

Haltair.3062:

Kaligula.2713:

Rumours spread that BB send whole zone on 10 man group and get farmed.

Overall great week of WvW.

Rumours spread that lonely Shadows have been farming Gandarians during whole week.
Great week indeed…xD

Best regards,

Haltair, one of the Twelve Shadows

Rumours spread that I’ve been farming BB dudes all week long yet to meet a Shadow, but I wouldn’t mind some competition… the rest of your server just toooo easy

Great fun both yesterday and the entire matchup, good to fight all you guys

Ezekiel The Paladin

Fun GvG today for us; our first one as a guild and I think it went well, had a blast leading us to victory twice, both times rather incredulously and with great surprise. The 5vs5s were fun, and normally I hate confusion mesmers, but fairly you should ask for none if you don’t want any… the duels afterwards were quite good also, all in all a good evening.

Not sure if we won against TUP when I was leading the GvG, or if we just confused them to death with triple portals? Either way we were ecstatic when we won

Thanks for the fights everyone been a great starting GvG for us!

Much appreciation to Habib + Mike! You guys are awesome, sad to see you leave thank you for the countless hours spent trying to improve WvW, as I’m sure Devon will in the future

Welcome Devon, excited to see your plans for WvW and how things develop in the future – one question though: Is there any chance at all that the people who’ve been grinding away and playing wuv vee wuv for ages can get some sort of influence on WvW ranks? I’ve put all I had into the game and leading and commanding all the way since release, every day I woke up ready to play and help organise the server, until eventually I got my commander icon by kind donations from those I was trying to help. Basically, I really hate that people who’ve spent so much time and effort on WvW have to start on exactly the same footing as all of the PvE dudes with their legendaries and ascended gear, multitudes of gold etc. but without the above… I don’t want to have to go into the game and spend ages grinding for the titles so I can look like a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield, when I’ve done 2k hours of it already and because I’m employed and I invest in solo roaming more often in my spare time than leading zergs, I’m way behind everyone I know, despite being quite high anyway – kills are counted since the beginning, as are keep caps/tower caps etc., surely we could get like 10 WXP per kill, 30 per cap or something like that (?), so those who’ve played WvW for eons aren’t screwed over in comparison to the PvErs with all of their rewards.

MartyPartys.9187:

Xiao.1208:

Anyway, seems clear AG and it’s ‘leet’ guilds were really very embarrassed by the prospect of losing to a pug server! Even if we finish 3rd, this week will always be a victory for FSP. We’ve been kicking your kittens all week, so the fact that we pushed you into 4am zerging (a perfectly valid tactic so I have no issue there but, in reality, we all know this is a last resort for servers who can’t win any other way ) and now exploit abuse…so delicious

Since you are new to this tier you don’t know yet, but AG isnt pushed into 4am zerging. AGs primetime just starts later than your server. It’s nothing new and especially not for you guy.

Can we just discount whatever Xiao says as incessant swearing and meaningless insults? Tbh I don’t think he actually plays WvW, his keyboard warrior skills are so honed that he couldn’t possibly waste time on trivial things like the game, when he could be out practicing…

Yeah it was good they weren’t blobbing, however that made a lot of the pressure on us because they couldn’t wipe blobs of the magnitude AG and FSP were putting up, even we as a relatively large group with some pugs in TS had trouble with FSP sometimes…

Generally the problem is blobbing as in FS blobbing, then everyone counterblobbing to meet FS level blobbing is logic. Tbh this is mostly only the influx of players again; PvE players (eyes blaze with anger and righteous indignation), and also returning WvWers that have come for the patch. As a guild we won’t turn away Infantry who want of right with us, especially with enemy numbers so high.

Thanks to… idk… the dual pug blobs we faced today on AGBL… was fun ping pinging back and forth from Bay to Garrison defending, and I got some decent WXP, even though I thoroughly dislike the stuff. Hills was tense and we were sooooo close to getting it, that said I logged, so not sure if we got it or not crosses fingers.

Good fights under the lead of my compatriot, Commander ‘Azagazelle’ very good to see him learning at a surprising pace, hopefully he’s not the only one

Celly.5912:

Olujiwan Risengard.8721:

Esprit Dumort.3109:

Amazing SMC fight tonight!!! Win or lose, the craziness was epic!

Huge props to Eze for leading us in the fun, awesome job leading

Hardly a good fight. I think all of us suffered from severe skill lag. I was just standing there spamming 1

That^. It’s no game if no-one can use skills, just numbers and luck really :p

Awh you guys just sore you lost!
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So umm… pretty sure they lifted the population cap per server a fair amount.

We had great fun on EBG – 60-70 proper zergs were on every server, we were guilty okitteno count theirs, but hey, this is Eternal… went pretty well as our blob destroyed every other blob with ease, XxX were there as well helping out a lot… think highlights of the evening were capping a literally just taken Tower, Wildcreek, after wiping FSP at the lord room after they took it when we’d taken the wall down from Rogues, it was AG’s when FSP got in through our breach, whilst we took out about 30-40 of them that came from dredge mine, very fun was that.

The other most fun of the evening was SM – we didn’t think we’d make it as AG were I the Lord Room, but we decided to go and hailed ourselves in, then played the waiting game after charging in and wiping a lot initially. We barracaded ourselves on the second floor with 3 Ballistae, killed the FS blob who returned quickly, and then spent ages buffing and weaving in and out, around and through both groups, wiping many of them and knocking down all in our path, and we’re content to continue doing so, but XxX turned up to hold off more FS from South – we charged for the lord having wiped AG in the corridor and focussing the lord, capping it subsequently.

It’s quite fun to have battles on that scale as it feels like a proper battle, even though in my opinion the skill is slightly less and I hate it when it’s not all servers doing the same thing; if all are on a level playing field number wise I can handle it though.

Good to fight both of you today FS, AG, maybe SM was less fun for you guys, but you just need to get some tactics and banter in there – we were going on about the Olympics all through that fight Very fun leading today, and man thnx to all of the discipline and and courage of the Infantry that followed me, rather impressed at the intuitiveness there

We will have zergs on every server like that guys – the big WvW patch = all the PvE dudes coming in toting Legendary and ascended gear, all of the old WvWers returning thinking stacking up and turtling is still the best strategy this will take some getting used to!

Dark Lord Killer.9473:

Immolator.5640:

So glad I decided to pull [WvW] away from the Garrison badge farm in order to check Bay, was thinking that wall was down too long…

Heyhey let’s make an agreement, we call your [WvW]; imposter[WvW] and our [WvW]; real[WvW], deal? Clears things up a lot

Just kidding ofcourse

Hope to have some nice fights against you just like the last time we faced Gandara

You mad bro? Come at me! :P

Hope to see you guys on the field soon, I have a new breastplate christened in AG blood this evening; sure you guys would be a welcome addition to me breaking it in

iTB.1428:

Immolator.5640:

I am kind of disappointed with the turnout from Gandara, but tbh morale is low and people have been waiting a while to get out of the blob-fest of T3 – that kind of stuff… It just gets to you, you know!? ~breaks down sobbing with tears~

I can’t help myself byt I find this rly hilarious
talking about getting out of blob play while doing nothing else is just epic

Firstly, 30 around is not blob play, up to 40 same – 50-60+ is.
Secondly, why don’t we all quote what someone said about the Gandaran reset turnout 3 days ago and cry about it now during the week, when Gandarans are at their strongest :P this reset was poor even by Gandaran standards.

Even so, blobs are fine because we wipe them pretty easily on the field, it’s more the defensive blobs that hit you whilst you’re sieging a keep that we’re annoyed with – in an open field fight we can mostly slaughter them.
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Nice fights today both solo in the EB JP, and guild based in AGBL, no resistance taking Bay, but then we hurried it so as to achieve that. Good to spar with UNTY and KISS as well as the other zerg of pugs or w/e that seemed to be floating around. Good team play with [INT] and glad of their help many times.

So glad I decided to pull [WvW] away from the Garrison badge farm in order to check Bay, was thinking that wall was down too long… sorry that you guys were so close [UNTY], amazing work there, just unlucky and would have taken it if you had been a few seconds quicker.

In other news – Patch Day Tomorrrrrowww!

Olindorrrrr I’m hoping that was me shame some Gandarans didn’t share the sense of honour with not interrupting 1v1s, good to also fight some skilled opponents like yourself, unfortunate the attitudes of some to interrupt and ruin fights despite being asked not to.

I’ll be making my way to that windmill on FS today methinks, only an amateur as far as duellin goes, but I’ll try to fight a bit – anyone who can present Osi with a challenge can tear through me…

Would like to face you, Siege Herder – might bring some Backstab thieves for back up just in case though

Is it weird that the name ‘Siege Herder’ gives me the image of a Dolyak? o.O

Ironvos.9014:

If we were really all that squishy as you claim we are, you would think that a bunch of gandara + AG guildzergs would have gotten a bit further into our border than just hills and the 2 outbreak towers. The keeps and towers weren’t even all T3 yet until a few hours ago.
The numbers isn’t an excuse anymore if you yourself are pushing 2 30ppl zergs around our border.

We also always run with atleast 2 main zergs when a border is nicely filled, the only place where i could believe you if you ever saw a 70ppl megablob is maybe in EB cause the playerlimit seems higher and its easier to cover everything with one zerg if you don’t overextend.

A lot of siege plus the helluva scout party you guys have make your Borders a very dangerous place – you know if an enemy so much as sneezes in there, and I swear this afternoon we were just being stalked, couldn’t find half a minute to chill and build some golems without 5 FS running into us :/, the amount of siege you guys have everywhere and building/built is insane also, I kind of think this is what original Piken had fighting Gandara, cept more organised and hardcore, your guys seem to feel sitting on an arrow cart at a gate somewhere is a well-paid job and obligation. Sieging anything is 10x harder than defending it when your enemy is as resourceful as you Peakies… you defend your Borders very well, at least for us amateur groups hence why you guys have barely lost anything in there so far, with a zerg on the walls/gate, siege manned and firing and no chance for stealth or numerical advantage, it’s more a job I’ve seen done by RG and TUP.

On regards of numbers, it’s the kind of 20-30 v 60 thing everyone was complaining about in T3, Gandara’s kind of very opposed to blobs, sometimes in a hypocritical way recently, myself included. I maintain FS zergs are squishy :P