Guild Wars 2

It is indeed incredibly annoying when I see an AoE circle on the ground and I can’t tell whether it’s the water field I called for or a symbol of swiftness or a lava font…

I was leading the Gandaran EB infantry for that portion of this evening and we were definitely feeling the lag just as much as you were. Both [RED] and [Scnd] I salute you o/ we mercilessly blobbed down both of you and the battles were on an epic scale and the feeling was completely exhilarating, our guild is quite new and amateur to roaming, and the way you guys do it is impressive and awe-inspiring, infantry leading is what we do best cause blobbing comes naturally to us.

The entire event was completely intense, not a dull moment and I was doubting my tactics all the way through, especially when [Scnd] breached the top floor, but somehow we pulled it together, Gandaran infantry surprise me time and time again with their resilience, and they made me proud tonight. I’m leaving now on holiday for a week and will miss the rest of be matchup, so I thought I’d go out with a bang! hence posting here, it’ll be my only chance

Questions that might be asked; at a supply check approx an hour earlier we numbered 74 people, so that is likely the max amount you are facing, so we did indeed blob you to death. We used 9 arrow carts in total, 4 of which were superior. There was no voice communication within the group and it was chat-commanded entirely, and yes I did get suppressed once, at which point I had to swap to squad, in the small hope that someone might have joined.

It was a real pleasure fighting you guys and I had insane fun this evening, what started out as a matchup we weren’t so enthusiastic about has actually been really enjoyable. Thanks for the battles guys, and I hope to maybe face you again of the field some day.

My condolences, hope to meet you guys again in the future o/

MartyPartys.9187:

And this is exactly the reason why the WvW mesmer will never be buffed, because it has a useless set of utility skills.

I know alot of people will disagree that they’re useless, but I’m talking open field combat here, zerg busting, GvG.

Portal, it will only get you killed using it, ye it’s nice for hiding in a keep but how is that going to help me out on the battlefield? And why the hell would I want to teleport golems around?

It depends whether you follow the meta, portals aren’t dead yet

I miss you guys already :’( Baruch Bay and Jade Sea… consider yourselves lucky with this one, back to the crappy matchups for Gandara I guess… o/

VaaKnight.9763:

Nice try with the catapult up on the tower above Quentin earlier Ezekiel, but you can’t run from my grenade spam huh

Technically it was the mortar that got me xD I was too busy spamming 2 to deal with you, then booom and I’m lying with my bones broken on the ground you guyz so mean </3 we just wanted to see waht was inside!

Foolproof plan, provided you have 500 supply with you after having broken through the first door. And the enemies have no AC in range, no trebs or mortars pre built, no group that can charge and wipe you, no people suiciding against your trebs to take down dat 5%, and no oil mastery…

Also within a couple of hours of their PvE patches being out, another patch disables WvW yet again to fix the tiny bits and bobs in that… nice to know that they care so much. Maybe if they could direct some of the attention in the general direction of the npcs spamming to enter mist portals, that’d be nice.

They could at least give us our gawddam’d colours back it wasn’t enough that we’re getting lagged to death constantly and I have no pony mount, now they have to steal our colours and make us bleed to death through our eyes.

A quick fix on that would really be appreciated and restore some faith from the community, that somewhere up there someone is listening to our prayers… just saying…

One fun moment when our 8 man guild party saved Durios from the ÄÄ group and the UW pug zerg(?), repairing that wall wasn’t actually mean to save the tower, more like annoy you a little luckily we were able to finish off those that ported into lords and our infantry commander arrived just in time to bail us out and save the tower.
Other than that been dcing left right and centre tonight, lag is insane.

Good fights still this week, keep it up guys had the RoF Zerg before owning ours with nice tactics and coordination, although we had a new commander without communicating anything, the way they fought was both encouraging and nice to see. Also always nice to bash heads with [Rain], your little laser bolt spitting Asura Engi and the hammer toting heavies you guys have make for intense albeit painful battles.

iorlas.6721:

Immolator.5640:

iorlas.6721:

Gamgee.8612:

iorlas.6721:

rotfl…mid/small roaming guilds…tell that to 60+ blob in UW.

JDGE, YARR, TDA, Dius and also I saw BORD fielding like 6 players today, TKT, Tchu and sometimes FRI is also fielding small groups(I know I forgot some). Sure, now that we have an uneven matchup to our favour there’s PvE pugs joining the blue shiny thing on the minimap, but if you’re looking for a decent fight there’s alot to have Hope to see you! I saw a RoF blob aswell, doesn’t mean I have to go cry on forums.

Oh and also thanks YARR for the asuraball! Really got the hang of it on the end! There’s vids of it aswell.

Not crying just pointing out ya idea of small/mid roaming groups is a 60+ blob.

None of the above guilds have ever ever had over 25, and the first ones mentioned field 15 as basic. My guild was running 20 on EB until 10:00 uk time, with a few upscales in the mix, seeing as today was supposed to be open ops. Any of this 60 man blobbin from the guilds mentioned is insane, and unless screenshots are provided no one on Gandara will believe you.

Also thnx to TKT for Asuraball today, we got there in the end
Couldn’t find any solo roamers on the opposing 2 servers, so I tagged up again to kill XxX and retake SM, after the first two times they wiped XxX disappeared, obviously those won’t be put in their videos, but at least we have the comfort of knowing they happened. If I wake up in time cyu all tomorrow morning for another day in matchup heaven. Sorry for calling it that but the last 3 matchups we had were Elona, Jade Sea and Kodash… You know not the meaning of blobbing.

Still calling me a liar? 2 guilds of 30 is still a 60man blob no matter how you try to explain it.Couldn’t get the rest of the train in the ss.

Read the above posts, we’ve stated that YaK and DYE can run 25-30, those ones were ‘t included in what I was talking about. Either way I’m pretty sure you guys have been called blobbers repeatedly as well :P we’re not trying to blob and the guilds generally run separately from each other, except on the off chance that the other is outmanned and needs help, for the duration of those fights then we’re not really going to stand by and watch them die. In that ss I count 27 DYE, I’ve spoken to DYE leader as recently as today and know from him they have 40 at the most, and generally then they split into 2 groups of 20. Give me a screenshot of a real guild running 60 and then I will indulge you.

‘When >20 enemies are detected outside a server’s spawn area for longer than 10 minutes in Eternal Battlegrounds and no structures are owned, an npc Legendary Uberpwnzorkommandant Hodor will spawn along with his bodyguards Siegerazer and Siegecrusher and their respective Dolyaks, these will then proceed to storm every structure on the spawn camped server’s third of the battlegrounds, Superior Arrow Carrs within 1,500 range of Legendary Uberpwnzorkommandant Hodor will self-destruct for 20k AoE damage. Supply pulses of 5 will be given to allies within range of Legendary Uberpwnzorkommandant Hodor’s presence buff at 30 second intervals, and siege build sites will appear as they do with other breakout events. For every less ally player detected in 5,000 range than enemy players, two veteran quaggan npcs will spawn. Siegerazer and Siegecrusher will continue with their generic phrases whilst Legendary Uberpwnzorkommandant Hodor will shout his name sporadically.

Oh and we’ll remove skill lag’

Use /say chat for general commands, not map/team chat! So important

@Kodel.4871

Sorry to hear you guys are doing badly atm, however in the past few weeks, regardless of how badly we were being smashed against the wall with around the clock coverage, omnipresent 50+ zergs and hourly omega rushes, we still had time for some nice GvGz and Asuraball. If not we can probably play amongst ourselves, but it would increase your enjoyment as well I think, which is good for everyone in the end. I mean, Asuraball!

Alright I tried, lost respect for APE (or at least these two, god forbid they’re representative of the whole) now, no civility in the slightest, you guys obviously just enjoy flaming everyone and everything, and can’t accept an apology done talking with you guys.

[WvW] is upfor 5vs5 Asuraball and 15vs15 GvG for the first time in ages this matchup.

iorlas.6721:

Small/Mid sized roaming guilds

Looks like 20 YaK+ pugs to me, YaK and DYE weren’t mentioned in the other posts because they are probs the only exceptions that can run 25+ on Gandara. It does look like a lot of pugs in there, so it’s not really a guild group. In all fairness you should have seen GD on Elona, the 60+ was entirely their guild!

iorlas.6721:

Gamgee.8612:

iorlas.6721:

rotfl…mid/small roaming guilds…tell that to 60+ blob in UW.

JDGE, YARR, TDA, Dius and also I saw BORD fielding like 6 players today, TKT, Tchu and sometimes FRI is also fielding small groups(I know I forgot some). Sure, now that we have an uneven matchup to our favour there’s PvE pugs joining the blue shiny thing on the minimap, but if you’re looking for a decent fight there’s alot to have Hope to see you! I saw a RoF blob aswell, doesn’t mean I have to go cry on forums.

Oh and also thanks YARR for the asuraball! Really got the hang of it on the end! There’s vids of it aswell.

Not crying just pointing out ya idea of small/mid roaming groups is a 60+ blob.

None of the above guilds have ever ever had over 25, and the first ones mentioned field 15 as basic. My guild was running 20 on EB until 10:00 uk time, with a few upscales in the mix, seeing as today was supposed to be open ops. Any of this 60 man blobbin from the guilds mentioned is insane, and unless screenshots are provided no one on Gandara will believe you.

Also thnx to TKT for Asuraball today, we got there in the end
Couldn’t find any solo roamers on the opposing 2 servers, so I tagged up again to kill XxX and retake SM, after the first two times they wiped XxX disappeared, obviously those won’t be put in their videos, but at least we have the comfort of knowing they happened. If I wake up in time cyu all tomorrow morning for another day in matchup heaven. Sorry for calling it that but the last 3 matchups we had were Elona, Jade Sea and Kodash… You know not the meaning of blobbing.

Leading for the first half of EB, den guild grouping until now, nice to see XxX have left once again Had a few upscales in our group since we didn’t foresee needing to split, so we have plausible deniability that we would have got completely crushed so much. Hoping for a nice rest of the matchup, and off for some solo roaming now.

p.s. Hai UW! o/

Let dem games begin!

Lurch.9517:

Spears.5381:

Dear Elona Reach

I’d like to say it’s really mature of you to come to our Cursed Shore and ruin our farming while saying you “conquered us”.

Thanks to FSP and ER for the fun fights this week. Hope we get a more even match up next week.

Bit harsh to call their server out for that obviously some window licking brain dead monkeys that came and boasted about PVD’ing a T5 server with their T1 server, i am sure their mainstream players would cringe at some of their idiots doing that. To be fair, they have probably had all their brain dead PVE wannabe PVPers qued all week on maps… We know what thats like we have pleeeenty of those turn up when its an imbalanced matchup.

Idk Lurch, it kinda was 12 commanders and a metric tonne of randoms following, and it seems pretty possible to have been organised with the huge TS based cluster of omnipresent zerker players that is ER… Oh wait I’m generalising again. Still with the amount of players and commanders it seems unlikely to be a coincidence or random couple of idiots guesting.

Try fighting Elona then tell me that banner ressing should be nerfed I’ve seriously never had that much of a problem with it, let alone an hour worth, what you are proposing would mean 1hour is converted into 2 minutes at the very most, which kinda makes it useless as kitten. It benefits every single large group on the map infinitely more than the lower coverage server to remove it or change it. Seeing as this is the first ever post I’ve seen complaining abou the issue, it can’t really be that much of a problem anyway.

Making it not reset the cap makes it redundant, because a half health NPC versus 90+ megablob is gonna last all of 2 seconds :P

Imo porting from spawn into a keep is stretching the limits of tactics into exploiting, it shouldn’t really be possible. And yes it does sound like something a german server would do.

If you remove banner lord then huge groups will win every single time without fail, screw dem small groups and lower population/coverage servers

Tbh I’d rather it stayed, the Lord ressing thing has saved our Valley from ER insta-omega-building blobs at 3 in the morning once or twice in this matchup, and repeatedly around 11pm, they golem rush and facerub alllll of the things; it’s horribubble enough that they have the whole map most of the morning and sometimes afternoon, when we finally get a tier 3 keep, not having to rush entirely into their 60+ horde in order to slowly res the Lord is a good thing, plus the 20 or so of us there would like to keep the place and its upgrades, banner ressing is one of the only things that does that.

Speaking of spam messaging, is there any way of changing how often someone, this is mostly for commanders, can speak without getting suppressed? Often I lose fights because I can’t communicate with the infantry I am leading; communication = organisation. I try to reduce it and always type different messages so I’m not targeted by the suppression filter, but still it occurs sometimes and kinda cripples our group, I have to rely on my guildies on TS typing for me, which is many times too slow and not ideally placed. If maybe there was some way to ease it for commanders in WvW, or just in WvW or something, it’s just rather useless atm, thnx in advance if I get an answer

+1’d as well

Is presented with logical argument – ‘let the thread die’… cos if was never that important to me anyway… cough cough avoidance cough

Ross Biddle.2367:

Razer Naga Epic + keyboard. I only play Mesmer so, my mouse glows magenta. That’s the winning recipe right there.

Lately I’ve been holding my newborn daughter in my left hand, so I’ve had to solo guys with just my right hand on the mouse. Add in two, or three guys depending on the class, and I’ll get overwhelmed without my second hand to handle movement properly.

But honestly, having the appropriate glowing mouse color is where it’s at.

Congrats man

Depends on your healing power; I can get up to 2k heal dodges, so i run Stamina, however if you aren’t as invested and/or run high vitality or something then it will be less effective for you. Pick whichever but rememba, Omnomberry Compote does the same thing for ~800-1k health per kill.

The best thief player I’ve fought runs them, it was more annoying than effective, and although he just tele’d with sword away all the time, he could kill most people, especially with the recent buffs, and take on 7 or so seeing as as soon as he was in danger he could just pop out.

Thesilentflute.8761:

A person on the last post said “They should open a 20v20 arena” and I think it is a fine idea if it would keep you guys out of wvw, but also feel that such a simplistic game mode would just crash like 8v8 spvp not that what you guys do now is much better. What I believe you guys derive the most pleasure from currently is the spectacle more than anything else left with only some of the most base game play the game has to offer I would bet it would just be left behind, or even worse moved back into wvw.

Self-interest is the enemy of all true affection.- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Looking to get a duel night/event tomorrow.. Today technically, about 7 in the evening UK time, I don’t know exactly which borderland, however it could possibly be done in the EB JP, seeing as I think most of the other neutral maps are booked for GvG. Likely this will be a majority AG/Gandaran event as always, if you try to get in for then, I’ll update this by tomorrow if plans change. Contact me in-game if need be

@Silentflute guy, you are coming across as a rather juvenile, arrogant and judgemental person. The fact that you are just another one of the people who write stuff about ‘” you guys talk about skill cause you drop a field here and there lol, You run specific builds lol, and you circle each other lol’, shows how little you understand about what you are preaching on, and how wasted our time is trying to reason with ‘just another one of those guys’ from the same profile and attitude that we have seen before.

With that I bid good day to you, sir, and return to trolling/reading my own matchup thread, in which things can be found that actually concern or effect me.

Alright so I haven’t read through half of this thread cause quite frankly I find it absurd; OP you are obviously either trolling, or incredibly judgemental and critical of what other players are doing that doesn’t effect you. WvW guilds are incredibly potent and useful forces throughout matchups, and bring a lot of the points that you actually end up with :P

Either way only German servers are so focused on PPT, 90% of matchups are decided by coverage alone, so shouting at guilds that want to do some GvG for a change every once in a while is both unnecessary and pointless. Why are you not crying about all of the people running around just trying to get their pois, vistas and skill points, harvesting their saplings and ore? I can assure you they do less for your server than your WvW guilds do.

It’s a 1.5k heal at least for me and 5 allies, a 2k heal if I’m running full life stacks and some kralkachocolate, comparing with my 15k health pool? Hell yeah I use it! My dodges are all 2k as well when optimised, I think of the thing as another heal that doesn’t require endurance, very helpful when you’re running low and need a pick-me-up.

Full cleric’s, if you’re wondering.

I generally have more than enough mobility to escape if I need to, though it is possible to be caught either if there are too many of them or if they are all thieves, which is unlikely.

What I normally use to escape foes in WvW, generally in EB:

Sword Tele: godsend this skill, you just need to know what to target, deer, walls, dem bunnies, a far off enemy. Also good for scaling terrain if necessary, like hills that you might otherwise have to walk around to get up.

Greatsword leap: I honestly couldn’t live without my leaps always make sure auto targeting is off, that kitten can get you killed

Swiftness: 16 sec swiftness helps outpace or maintain distance in combat

Terrain knowledge and general devious trickery and magic:
- With my swiftness and otherwise augmented leap, I can go from Anza vista hill to the outer palisade of Overlook, very handy when chased by many pursuers.
- Same with leap I can get up to the harpy nests at Orgath, sometimes if I’m up there being attacked by 5, I drop down and start walking down the hill; they follow, I go back and leap up again, sorted
- Oakhearts; a free entangle for your erstwhile pursuers, easy to dodge or leap past as you are smart and know what’s coming, having tagged the thing in the first place
- 2 stability sources, Virtue of Courage and SYG, renewed focus ofc supplementing the first

If you know what you’re doing you can handle yourself in most situations dat said did you know that thieves have a trebuchet range shadow step? :O I mean, talk about imba

Nice fights on EBG, I was only commander till about 10:00, but was all good despite a rocky star still repeatedly JS golem rushing Quentin with varying between 5-20 people

As always blobby but fun; nice to camp Anza vista on my lvl 34 ranger more recently cos I was bored like that, shot a tuppy off the edge once or twice I think amongst all the rest, for that I apologise; gravity is an Upscale’s best friend.

Seems also that we’re getting screwed over in one way or another every single matchup, gief AG-FSP-Gandara plzz

Simple solution to this:

Only take Retal dmg from 2-3 sources at any given time. That way you aren’t getting 5x whatever when you AoE a Zerg.

I main a guardian, 218 highest retal dmg I give to any one, I have played Ranger and Engi and Ele, and I do agree the amount of dmg you get is annoying and unreasonable given you can’t stop the AoE once you’ve started it.
Guardians have next to no ranged efficiency, so let’s not do anything drastic and throw around Internal Cooldowns or dmg nerfs in any suggestion, because that kittens over the class.

Flamethrower and Tornado procc way too much, their no. of proccs needs to be changed flat out. I still think this is the best solution that won’t kitten off many if anyone.

AG, FSP. I seriously cannot believe you stole my matchup! Any of you guys wanna swap places with Gandara this week? A fight with UW would be… interesting… for me. Either way good luck, send me a postcard, blobtown for us until next week Although this reset our blob did destroy theirs consistently Gandaran pugs are lovely, why I always lead reset ops. Also the fact that there were 70 of us might have been a factor.

Alright having read all of this, I honestly cannot understand how anyone would be on [lion]’s side here. As I see it:

• They purposefully set up a fricking Treb, just to annoy GvGs that were taking place on Kodash borders, so the ‘our borders were being lost whilst they were there’ argument holds no water. If you were there griefing, then you sure as hell weren’t helping either.
• Windmill is out of the way, no WvW importance and no offense but neither of us were going to win this matchup anyway.
• I spend most all of my day upgrading camps, placing siege, refreshing, escorting Dolyaks, but that doesn’t give me the right to purposefully go and grief innocent bystanders for no particular reason other than some sick sense of satisfaction at their pain
• PunK and FSV are likely the best WubvsWub guilds you have, I think you guys should think about their contribution to your server day in day out and countering other server’s illustrious guilds and blobs before you speak so highly of [Iion].
• In the end the fact is there was no need for the hostility, the trolling, the griefing and there was no way in hell that it was an ‘accident’. That’s what should be looked at here, not ‘omg they pressed f on some arrow carts sometimes, they can do w/e they want’.

Outsider’s perspective also :P

Riselight.3695:

Pastafarian.1642:

Immolator.5640:

I have really been seeing a lot of lack of fighting from FSP on Eternal this week… in all fairness though it seems whenever I command we get 60+ following and scouts become non-existent.
Still, yolo it and charge once in a while That last fight where the AoA blob charged into SM got me dc’d, so you were fighting a leaderless chunk of infantry Currently waiting in queue.

AoA blob? we have a blob?

Not that I’ve seen, you were always running away anyway.

You didn’t really, but at that point it was your entire fricking server charging in, so it might as well have been only time you guys seemed to fight us. Getting people to listen was awful tonight and no one wanted to read chat, so it is likely you would have won had you actually tried.

I know it’s scary because our blob was rather large or looked that way, but sometimes to just have to leroy it. The one time we actually got you in Pangloss we only downed maybe 3 of you, 5 at most, so I am more than confident you guys could take us if you tried hard xD Maybe the ‘AoA blob’ word was a bit unnecessary, suppose was just frustrated with lack of being able to use skills.

I have really been seeing a lot of lack of fighting from FSP on Eternal this week… in all fairness though it seems whenever I command we get 60+ following and scouts become non-existent.
Still, yolo it and charge once in a while That last fight where the AoA blob charged into SM got me dc’d, so you were fighting a leaderless chunk of infantry Currently waiting in queue.

Just wanted to ask it there is any chance of getting some kind of way back into a WvW map after being disconnected, Internet going down etc.? Give it a minute timer or something after relogging in, a half an hour timer in which to relog, or something.

I only mention this because in the last couple days been disconnected thrice whilst commanding, which is rather frustrating when facing the queue back in, especially with all the worrying and the apologies you feel you need to give for leaving them leaderless. I don’t know what it is about Sky Broadband recently, guildie says it should be fin but idk, I blame the Tour De France, cyclists getting priority!

Thanks in advance for any answers, I just thought it might be a half decent idea, as I’m sure everyone has suffered through a similar experience.

I had my birthday, got nothing, 2 days later half of my guild’s officers left during the first guild puzzle, whilst I was away (exams). Screw you PvE! I think the best drop I got was a 5g scepter, been commanding since BWE2 and seen a lot of others get precursors doesn’t matter though, I get my fun either way and since patch my gold is actually not degenerating, so it’s all good.

They can hit walls, they are nice in that way but almost useless if you’re rushing and taking down walls. Generally you will have alphas with your Omega, so hitting gate is better; also Fortified wall, empires rise and fall before it does.

hihey.1075:

Immolator.5640:

So the proposed solution, to a problem that isn’t really all that bad, is ‘run for the nearest pool of water’? o.O Is this fo serious?

I am dead serious, yes.
If you are good at countering thieves on land, please, do so.

My “guide” is for those who have problems against perma stealth thieves. Shift the fight into water, and watch as your enemy melts.
Thieves are the worst class when it comes to water combat. Crappy range, no defense, no condition cleaning.

Hmm fair enough then I can see why you called it a ‘soft’ counter now xD I haven’t really come across any effective ‘permastealth’ thieves at all, the best thief I ever fought was just teleporting half way across the map with Infiltrator’s Strike every time you got him to half health, along with a decent amount of stealth. However I am quite often sent into retreat in small scale battles when my health starts going down in chunks from an indistinguishable source; when I say indistinguishable I mean take me about a millisecond to guess and 2 seconds to spot, still not too bad, but I fight these battles a lot and spec my build around smallscale, so it’s to be expected. Just as long as they don’t omgteleporttrebrange anymore I am happy.

*whilst I was laughing

So the proposed solution, to a problem that isn’t really all that bad, is ‘run for the nearest pool of water’? o.O Is this fo serious?

I call everyone to stack just to stick with the current trend, everyone else does it so why shouldn’t I?

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Caid.4932:

Morgenes.6985:

gladly theres no picture of me under a ram. (checked them all)

Still no big deal killing support/zerg traited chars with an 1vs1 traited thief.
Or killing those who are trying to catch up to the rest of the group. (we don’t turn around for a single thief)

btw lot of judges posting here, you mad guys?
and grammar kitten above me, blaming others for not speaking correct english, as its not their mother tongue is pretty childish.

Its an in joke / tradition on gandara basically. We find it funny because we find dumb stuff funny.
It started when lloa (kinkywarrior) took a week off on piken when we were fighting them. When we killed him we threw a ram site on his body and vice versa.
We do it to a group on FSP too called lion (just because its fun to have a nemesis). TUP do it to players on our server, we all run around throwing rams in stupid spots and then laugh about it …
were easily amused lol.

Dont take it personally just laugh and take it in the spirit its intended. Next time you kill a jdge player stick a ram on his body and you can have a competition or something.

Please; Not once was I slain by a Random gandaran while on Piken.. a Group yes.. but there was this one guildie who caught me off guard and did get me down… but for some reason he couldn’t finish the stomp. Silly guildie!

Cough cough dat Tree Spirit incident cough…