Guild Wars 2

Cynz.9437:

Amstel Steel.2058:

I’m curious what an all mm 5v5 fight would look like.

i know there were servers that ran 40+ man minionmancers uplv zergs… that force was unstoppable

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I’ve heard it all, ranger sucks, ranger can 1v5, ranger does 0 dmg, ranger does more dmg than warriors. People are obviously biased to what they play whether they’re aware of it or not. This thread will be about constructing a better class without completely overhauling every single aspect of ranger as it is.

This could be called a “community brainstorm” if you will.

I think rangers need more movement speed and less movement due to skills, something like 50% faster while in stealth as a bonus to Remorseless could be nice. Hunters shot is already on a nice & low CD so it wouldn’t go to waste also It could give us the ability to re-create the gap that other classes or enemies close pretty fast if you’re using longbow. I noticed that even with Lightning reflexes & muddy terrain it’s really not hard to get in close to a ranger.

Now it’s time for US to help Arenanet out with the class we call Ranger, please do give your opinion on anything and everything aslong as it’s appropriate and try to refrain from unnecessary profanity. I’d really like something to come of this & rather it not go down the drain like most posts similar to it.

Spam

Yea, I’ve seen the whole “qq necro just spam their skills & win” and “spirit rangers 1111=win” but i’ve noticed it doesn’t just stop there does it?

How to play S/d thief= 3333
how to play bunker guard= 11111
how to play minionmancer=11111
how to play pistolwhip thief=333333
how to play nade engi=123451234512345

Why can these builds be just as, if not, more effective than the ones that require combos & timing?

What’s with this game & spamming skills? I dont understand. I’ve played many MMO’s that gave you the ability to do something similar & spam a hard hitting skill for ages but nobody ever did because you’d look like an idiot when you got counterplayed or missed. This doesn’t seem to be the case in gw2 sadly, Anet has for some reason catered to new players so when they enter sPvP they can pick-up one of these builds and kill players that are much more skilled then themselves. What about when said “new player” gets more experienced though? What happens when he’s tired of spamming his skills so he swaps to a normal build & realizes that he’s better off spamming & that’s his new impression of gw2. Spam is life

I got into PvP pretty hardcore quite a while ago around when solo queue got introduced and it only took me about a week of playing on my thief to get “Champion Shadow” title. This doesn’t seem that problematic when you look at it like that but if you really think about it.

Champion title is a way of showing you’re likely to be a good thief. When you’re in WvW roaming and an enemy see’s you he’s going to see your champion shadow title and that’s instantly causing hesitation whether he wants to fight you or not. It’s the only thing we have that can show our skill with the class (even though it doesn’t mean as much as it should) and tells others what kind of player you may be.

I know Anet has their work set out for them with the new rewards and with the recent amazing work they’re putting into PvP and I think it’d be cool if there was kind of a side-progression going. Since farming ranks takes a pretty long time especially if you’re not lucky with teams it can be annoying.

Something like “Kill 500 enemies with a higher rank than you” would be cool to see. I do see the problem with that being the highest ranked players would be left out but i’m just brainstorming I guess.

Acandis.3250:

it’s not about the better rewards. it’s about no skyhammer, that alone is a better reward

Made a team for this reason, became mlg for this reason, beat esports for this reason, realized anet doesnt care, team disbanded due to something stupid called life, alone, on forums, qq about everything…….. GW2

I play at a very high MMR (not trying to brag) and yea i do not see many shatter mesmers. The ones i do see though usually tend to whoop my kitten . It’s like thief except you need to work a bit harder to achieve similar goals.

Ostricheggs (very popular PvP streamer on twitch.tv) was playing his popgun hero (which if you didn’t know is a complete glass cannon killshot warrior) and i decided to try engi, we’re roughly the same MMR so when i got into the match and faced him at home. He tried to killshot me and infront of around 150 people on his stream. I hit shield 4, his killshot reflected and he 1 shot himself and I remember saying “learn engi’s skills, noob”

good times….

Is it really that hard to comprehend? Condi is a DoT. It should not be able to 100-0 you faster than a power burst class. Nerf burning and voila, we’re more reliant on DoT’s and less insane kitten exploding when a necro/engi hits you with a single skill. I dont understand removing the amount of stacks of bleeds (The main condi and most abundant in the game) from necro skills but they will still be able to burst people down while keeping them perma-feared. I know this goes against Anet’s terms because they have to undo something they did but seriously, it’s not hard.

Yup, i made a post about this about a month ago. Anet is implementing something of the likes, you’d have to hit “ready up” when your queue pops or it finds another player. Not sure when but it should be relatively soon. I feel your pain.

It’s no secret that rangers are bad, i dont mean that because i dislike them. I came into this game, first class was a ranger. Every day when i log on i’m tempted to hit ranger but i dont because the only viable ranger builds are reeaally boring or just suck.

Why cant Anet just work on a power-ranger spec? It’s obvious that they want us to run a condi spec with the wilderness survival tree being as strong as it is and the crit/crit dmg tree being for traps (wut) But i dont see how instead of trying to push us all into condi why they cant just fix up some Power builds and we can use those? I sPvP alot and i’m sick of seeing the only rangers be surrounded by spirits and their base dps comes from spamming 1. I play everything, 8 level 80’s each with a few different specs I run. Ranger has always been my choice in games from morrowind/oblivion to Tera/Lineage2 and rangers have never been this absolutely boring!

Engi=kits
Ele=attunements
Thief=mobility/stealth
mesmer=deceit
guardian=support
warrior=good mix of everything
necro=DoT’s/life transfer
Ranger= bad ranged dps

The sole fact that rifle warrior can out DPS rangers Longbow and still have as much if not More survivability.

PS; i know “qq” threads about ranger are all too common and Anet seems to just “not care” but lately it appears they’ve been alot more responsive on the forums and trying to get a response never hurts.

Anet, it needs to happen!!

Ok so no doubt dueling would be fun, whether it be open world or some sort of dueling system implemented into PvP. The closest we have right now is dueling servers which i’ll admit aren’t that bad but it’s nowhere near what it could be. Trying to say you’re genuinely better than someone else you’ve faced in solo queue or team queue is near impossible. You cant have a true 1 vs. 1 when you’re having to think about where to go next, what points are being capped, who’s dead ect… I personally think this could improve alot of zergers from WvW genuine skill without them having to spend hours playing the same maps over & over. Dying is only fun when you’re being beaten by someone truly better than you and it’s pretty hard to tell who’s better/worse in WvW/PvP

yep, heartseeker is broken as hell. It’s a skill people can spam and still get away with it because you’re jumping on the opponents face and it’s disorienting aswell as panicking when you’re taking 2k,2k,5k,5k and up to 8k every time after that. But Anet doesn’t care about these things, they like seeing scrubs spam 2 and kill decent players.

— posted by a top 100 ranked leaderboard thief (because leaderboards mean i’m not complete trash

I thought this was removed? It’s pretty stupid to have someone play warrior for 1/2 a game then swap to mesmer the other half. The ever so popular “ostricheggs” is a prime example, he can play killshot warrior for the first fight then like usual when he dies he swaps to engineer for the rest of the match. I’d very much like to see this be fixed

I understand if you’re lazy and glory requires too much extra effort to put in but why remove it completely? I’d much rather just have it as it is then remove it. I dont want to spend gold I use in PvE for any gear i want in PvP that’s kinda the point no? I’ve heard the “we want all game modes to be synced” but why like this?

So with the new patch tomorrow it’s gona take some time for me to really see what’s what and if something’s still worth using, any better or relatively the same since i’m going to be alt tabbing between gw2 and the forums. What if In-game there was a message or tooltip just showing what’s been changed? Kinda like what happened with the new trait tooltip where if something’s traited it turns blue. I could see this being extremely helpful although more of a QoL thing.

It’s open world combat PvE with objectives, it shouldn’t be balanced.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Inverted.7439:

SFShinigami.2015:

Thats okay, 40 upleveled necros are having their way with your home BL

-_- he speaks the truth

If your going to post screenshots remember to edit the chat out first.

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SFShinigami.2015:

Thats okay, 40 upleveled necros are having their way with your home BL

_ he speaks the truth

too bad ele’s are still terrible. that’s like using scholar runes and saying bunker d/d is the best build ever. Takes 2 life blasts for diamond skin to be rendered useless, not to mention mesmer phantasms can easily do 10% of your hp.

getting immobilized mid air leaves you unable to use any skills(not facing the designated spot also does something like this). With immob stacking coming into play this should probably be adressed i’d think.

Same thing happened to me right before the reset, loss after loss was really quite painful & after being at a constant 90-150 I was pretty happy with my solo q standings but then something just snapped and I fell all the way off the leader boards. It’s all luck, those 11-0 holding the first place spot on the leader boards didn’t get there by actually being the best.

uh, what about doing this Not on the mesmer forums?

so throwing a stick of wood that’s on fire would daze someone…. Blind sounds pretty reasonable but daze just doesn’t make logical sense. Torch is one of my favorite ranger weapons, it does crazy damage.

Oh My God thank you. I’ve been wondering for ages how people are able to solo path 2 and sell it. I tried with s/p & GS thinking it was the best choice >.<

Yea it’s understandable. I was shocked when i noticed one of my servers dolyaks died to some Living story PvE mobs. I dont want to be like all the others with the “if i wanted PvE i’d goto dam PvE map, WvW is for WvW”. I find WvW to be an open combat PvE enviroment with objectives. I definitely would like to see the PvE implemented a bit better though like maybe NPC’s walking around in the ruins or something. I’m a WvW solo/group roamer so i’m not speaking of a zerg’ers perspective when saying this. Change always has potential to be for the better.

They’re both fine skills with fine CD’s. They’re veerry popular on mesmers in PvP and even moreso in WvW as Veil can stealth as many people as can run through it. Sometimes you gota remember we’re not thieves >.<

Walker.3056:

K U T M.4539:

How come nobody’s insulted his keyboard turning yet

That would be to nasty

I’m a nasty man then… Your keyboard turning is sub-par and your strategy is poor. Lawl umad?

Stop your QQ. Warriors cant stomp with x2 their HP, guardians cant. The last thing necro’s need is a buff. DS is too abundant to be able to use for stomps. Thieves stealth stomp can be interrupted very easily or even be killed while trying to stomp. Ele mist form is on a very long CD so I dont see why it’s such a big deal we dont have some Op way of stomping people. Just kill the person again? <3

(another QQ thread made by somebody who doesn’t actually care enough to atleast try & research the topic)

They’ve stated many times before that they’ll be showing what kind of reward systems they’re going to implement this December which is a arms reach away. Why are you still QQ’ing? Just lost a tPvP game i’m assuming.

Are you serious OP? Posting a post about lvl 90 coming soon on THAT basis? That’s just sad man… The information given could be for lvl 200 and it could come in 5 years. They say stuff like that to keep us informed that there still will be progression to work towards in the future.

Yishis<Mugi becuz tM doesn’t 10v1

Nikkinella.8254:

We never had a god mode. That is a common misconception. People were just terrible players back then and had no idea how to deal with ele since everyone wanted to slot nothing but damage skills and go full zerker and not 1 single moron had the sense to use an immobilize or chill on us. We were always sub par. Ranger, engi, warrior, guardian, and yes even thief can bunker better than ele EVER could in it’s prime. We were never god mode, everyone else just sucked. Now people finally decided to listen to what we told them to do from the start to take down an ele, yet we still have the unjustified nerfs to deal with. We SHOULD have all nerfs since beta reverted, they were all unnecessary especially since people have finally fracking realized that things besides pure damage exist.

Not true, ele’s were one of the strongest classes at the time and it’s not because “people were terrible players back then” and that’s a very bold thing to say. Everyone from top level PvP’ers to the scrubbiest scrub thought it was overpowered because it was. Not becaus everyone sucked. That could be said about absolutely every overpowered aspect. Saying ele is the worst bunker in the game is one of the most pathetic things i’ve ever heard. You deserve a special place in the QQ corner.

style.6173:

If it is a P/D condi thief, then a max regen warrior is the counter. You’ll have regen of 800-1000 a second and their condis won’t even hurt you.

It’s not hard to kill a regen warrior that does 0 dmg :P 1000hp a second is a fat lie but still, i bet i could kill you with p/d. It’s so easy to dodge most of warriors attacks & the lack of gap closers with the new “meta” build on warriors is just childs play for any good p/d thief.

Dont listen to the QQers. GuildWars2 could be an Esport in a month. It’s quite ovbious nobody else here watches state of the game’s. The devs have said that they dont want to ship out a game as an Esport because the Esports scene is ever changing. You cant just bring out a good PvP system and say it’s Esports ready because it needs a base, this game’s community needs to work together & prompt Anet that it is indeed ready for Esports (which shouldn’t be just yet imo) and they could go back to working on PvP a bit more and bam, Esport. Not enough people are into s/tPvP atm to push it though so we need to just be patient. Anet is going to slowly upgrade it so more and more people will PvP until they think it’s ready. I’ve read an insane amount of statements by Anet saying this is what they’re doing but nobody else seems to pay any attention.

I wasn’t around when Redguard was so i’d have to say [EP] Everything Purple. Always fun to fight them.

Shouldn’t be hard to roam on a warrior, great mobility allows you to try to take on 1vX. Roaming isn’t dead, it’s harder no doubt but it’s still there.

To improve rangers we need more buttons to push, not less things to do. This would encourage like Imagi said, taking the highest DPS pet and just sit spamming 1 like rangers do, making playing ranger Even more boring.

Yet another QQ thread because you dont know how to play, Anet should seriously just delete these or just get a bot to do it, seriously. You dont see top players making these threads or even commenting on them. Maybe that’s for a reason? Everything has a counter and it’s not hard to figure out what it is. Just takes some patience & skill. “omg spirit rangerzz so op they spam de 1” “omg warriors kill da op spirit rangerz they must be moaaar op as ever” is all i hear these days

This thread is really quite saddening. The majority of people that buy GuildWars 2 are people that enjoy the PvE side or WvW which is why they’re always so populated and constantly receiving updates, all those people will tell their friends about how awesome it is and so on & so forth. But when it comes to PvP right now it’d just be wasting time, rescources & money. Anet’s been a step ahead for quite some time now and they know what they’re doing. Small things like finding a broken build for a class that’s been there for months and all of a sudden becomes so broken & meta (Warrior & S/D Thief) seems to completely take everyone’s faith away in them but if you look at the bigger picture it’s not hard to see. A little bit of patience is all it’s going to take.

If you run into someone like me you’d have a good time as i’m terrible at fighting BM’s but you wont catch me running from a good 1v1 but really, it’s not hard to turn around and just walk away once you find out it’s a BM.

It’s not hard to outplay a necro on a thief it just requires a bit more skill then say fighting a mesmer of equal skill level. Necro’s only defense is their ability to spam their condis and hope it works, few good dodges & thief wins, one or two errors & necro wins. It’s no doubt the fight’s in the necro’s favor but thief is still an insanely strong class if played right.

It’s quite obvious that Anet knows warriors are broken & that’s why they’re nerfing hammer, unsuspecting foe ect… but why in december? It’s clear that PvP already is unbalanced not to mention unrewarding & has little-to-no appeal to it but why is it taking a month to implement the changes? Would it not be better to make less drastic but more frequent balance patches instead of just taking away 20% dmg? (which seems like a very elementary solution to the problem) Especially after making your players suffer through this for so long?

Two people with almost identical names are solo queue’ing at the same time, later at night and manage to be on opposite teams almost every time. One of them will afk or run around & do absolutely nothing productive causing his team to lose so the other gets credit. Is there anything that could be done to put a stop to this? Or would this fall under the “report & let support handle it” ?

I do have screens & names but idk if that would go against ToS?

Evan Lesh.3295:

G make it so the extra temporary uses are worth something.

You could be on to something ^^

WvW is PvE except open world & something to do. 0 balance 0 fux given.

Doggie.3184:

No one at Anet actually mains Thief, so it makes sense that they don’t know how to fix it and it’s the bottom of the barrel of their focus, just like Charr armor~ cuz apparently, as they themselves said, not enough people play the race for them to care. It’s probably the same mindset with Thief. Everyone plays Warrior so they’re going to keep buffing it till no one plays the other classes.

yes, that’s why in the dec 10th patch warriors are totally not getting nerfed…

Josh Davis.6015:

tichorum.2415:

Okay, makes sense. Obviously releasing information isn’t going to make the update come sooner, but it will stop the kittening about what is coming and will give us something to look forward to rather than wonder about for the next three months.

Agreed! This is why we’re working on a blog that will detail the changes. Rest assured, this information will be available before the updates hit the servers. Trust me, we want to tell you guys everything…and we will. =)

I hate to continue on with similar questions but is there any chance you could tell us if the blog is coming before/after 2014? What better way to get people into PvP early than releasing notes saying it’s going to pay off! ^^

Dhunis.9072:

LB with offensive build is viable now both in PVP and WvW.

I had quite a large wall of text written out just to prove you’re wrong… Then i watched your silly LB vid on skyhammer & realized i’m talking to someone who probably doesn’t know the meaning of the term “viable”. Whatever a ranger can do, another class can do it 10x better.