In my circle we call it the pug roulette. I plan to make a video with commentary sometime, hilarity always ensues when I get the angry whispers.
I think all circles call it that. Then you get angry person telling me how they have over 500 arah tokens and I’m dumb for kicking them!
XD I had an excellent one today. ’You’re what’s wrong with this community!’ haha
Ah this is getting away from the main topic but I suppose what really needs to be said here is that these people look up these builds, think they are good and then get upset and confused when they don’t make the cut to my super mean scummy leetist runs.
Which is why I elaborated in the next post. People are quick to make assumptions, I need to be more descriptive in my first post I suppose -.-
Yes, actually. Because “people join my group with bad builds” is a completely different situation from “people join my group with builds that do not meet the specifications I outlined in the LFG tags.”
On the one hand, the fault is with you for having little justification for being upset when it’s pugging with total randoms to begin with. On the other, people are idiots for not reading.
Specificity is good. =]
The best part of all is assuming I would be upset to begin with. I guess you could say the fault is with you for making those assumptions. :P
While it may be tiring to have players continually ignore my posts and join, I find it actually pretty funny. The most satisfying part is knowing it’s another awful player I just skipped
In my circle we call it the pug roulette. I plan to make a video with commentary sometime, hilarity always ensues when I get the angry whispers.
38-ish pre-Fractured (as I said, it’s been a while) – at the time ~15 AR. It’s far cry from 60 and I might have have a slightly different opinion at that level, but clearing is probably something I wouldn’t change my mind on.
Coming from the perspective of someone at lvl 49.
I can totally understand why people exploit this. They want a way out. A way out of the monotony that is this fractal. It’s just not fun. It’s like pulling teeth.
This fractal is poorly designed. Why? Even when run smoothly, it’s monotonous with very little reward for time input.
-When the dredge come out of the clowncar as invulnerable but are still able to attack you it’s a total cop out, it’s just cheap and stupid.
-When you kill them you then have to wait for the next wave to spawn, become attackable and then rinse repeat over and over.. I literally fall sleep doing this.
- Some of the instabilities at higher levels can make this fractal even more annoying.
You’re still missing the point, but whatever. If that’s what you got out of it, that’s what you got, even if it isn’t the point.
@J Eberle, That’s a bit different than what you started with Bub. You went from “I wish people would stop playing the builds they want when joining my group” to “I wish people would learn to read the LFG tags.”
Yeh you know, the lfg tags I post when I make my groups that they join. I know its hard to put things together but dw I got patience.
Okay, let me rephrase. He plays with pugs, and then gets mad that they don’t play the way he wants.
People really are quick to make assumptions. Reading forum posts is much like pugging as well. Can’t expect much I suppose.
I actually make my own group and specify what I want in the description. However people have trouble reading so I have to gear check them which is really just sad. I often receive verbal abuse and people trying to break my party up for running the dungeon the way they don’t like. Funny how it works.
~ gets non-zerk
~ lack of scholar runes
~ even when people pass the gear check, some still suck
Do we have to ask for numbers of trait spreads too? The overall intention is right there in the lfg, we shouldn’t have to fill all of the gaps. “Be zerk! and scholar runes! and experienced! and don’t suck! and …”
I say I want these things. People ignore me. Join anyway. Rage at me what I ask them to read the description or think they can sneak by and get carried with their hipster builds.
Perhaps I need to be more specific in my comment description so I don’t get people quoting me and saying ridiculous things. It would almost make sense if I just jumped in any old pug and expected them to be good. But I don’t. And if I did it’s pretty much assumption they are going to be bad and I wouldn’t complain.
I just find it ironic how its 10/25/0/10/25, or the like, or “it’s DIAF you n00b!!!!!!!!!!1!!11!!1111111111” when it was the same way with AH and how it’ll be the same when the future builds change the current meta.
I don’t see anything ironic about that. People want to run the most effective builds, and they hope that other people in their team run effective builds. Just because the perception of “effective” changes over time doesn’t mean people were necessarily wrong at the time for requesting people run the most effective build at the time. You seem to think that because in the future there will be a different meta build that we are stupid for advocating the current meta build. That seems like a drastic misunderstanding of how and why these builds are even run in the first place.
You’re missing the key piece there. It’s the attitude that’s the irony. Simple as that. You’re putting extra meaning in. If what you said is what you think, I’d suggest re-reading what you quoted.
If we are talking about attitude, well I’m sick and tired of people joining my group with ‘play how you want builds’ wasting everyone’s time because the meta is ‘too mainstream’.
They really should release a fedora skin in the cash shop, they would sell like hotcakes.
Other areas do not have dev interaction and aren’t like this at all. Players create their own environments through their own communication and language. Blaming the devs for the toxic air in this subforum is irresponsible.
You’re here for one thing and one thing only, to stir up trouble. You’re not here for constructive conversation. You are part of the problem that you complain about.
Yeh.. so much for those self entitled types who make their own groups and specify what they want in them =p I join them and tell them to do things my way because their way is rediculous and doesn’t work with my pvt gear. Always in such a rush with their glass gear, always dieing and doing no dps on the floor. I always tell them to just spread out and ranged spiderqueen, stacking never works and gets everyone killed, same with lupicus. Also I don’t want to be forced to exploit. They need to understand that when i’m doing cm im not interested in using cheap mechanics like reflects, I want to take my time and rely on my playstyle and skill.
Now, apparently, moving a topic to a correct section is now wrong, because kitten logic. I may have missed that memo.
In true Gw2 forum style I say this to you.
’That’s just your opinion’
K. My argument about moving it into this section still stands.
Happy Sunday.
No. It doesn’t. Because it’s your opinion.
It is? Well, the Dungeon subforum description begs to disagree.
I noticed that the word “opinion” is being tossed around carelessly is most forums I have been. It’s usually used when someone has no more counter-argument to raise (sometimes, it’s name calling, ie: fanboy).
If I say GW2 sucks because it’s boring, that’s an opinion.
If I say Sunrise is better than Twilight because it’s more uncommon, that’s an opinion.
If I say that a dungeon post is correctly moved to dungeon section, it’s a fact simply because there is a forum description to back it up.
Look, I get what this thread is all about. I really do. I also get that OP wants to bring this to ANet, that’s why it’s originally posted on GD. I would’ve done the same. But when ANet’s mods did the right move, don’t QQ. For once they did something correctly.
Now, you all could QQ about devs not visiting this subforum for all I care, but moving the thread? Srsly?
“Talk over dungeon strategy, thoughts, groups or more”
Does not encompass ArenaNet’s refusal to engage with the dungeon community. The closest forum I could think to post this was the Guild Wars 2 Discussion forum, since my thread is aimed less at dungeons itself and more a request for more interaction with the dungeon community.
If you can’t see how this thread being moved would upset people, then I’d like to make the suggestion of looking for ArenaNet symbols in threads on this subforum over the last ten to twenty pages, and count how many are recent posts and which are purposely necro’d threads with months old developer replies.
Wow.
Not sure if you read my entire post or just quoted and took the context based on my original reply..
Anyways, I’ll take the liberty of quoting myself:
“Look, I get what this thread is all about. I really do. I also get that OP wants to bring this to ANet, that’s why it’s originally posted on GD. I would’ve done the same. But when ANet’s mods did the right move, don’t QQ. For once they did something correctly.
Now, you all could QQ about devs not visiting this subforum for all I care, but moving the thread? Srsly?"
QQ away. list the subforums not being visited recently.
The mere fact your post is about dungeons merits the move to the specific subforum.
Now, if you created a thread saying “Here are the list of subforum needs to be visited more often since <insert reasons here>” – this may have stayed on GD. This WILL even stay on Page 1.
But you are complaining about the dev’s lack of attention to dungeons. It’s not general, it’s specific.
They should make a ‘complaints about other players’ subforum and move all your comments to it because they don’t belong in this thread.
boon guardian is a bad spec, condition necro is a bad spec, tank warrior is a bad spec. this is why berserker gear is the best; non-DPS specs are suboptimal in dungeon running and thus bad.
It is bad, for you.
It’s bad for everyone.
Who are u to tell anyone that it’s bad for them? You are a book definition of Elitist. If it’s good for me, it’s good for everyone. Get a reality check…
Ah here we go, playing the elitist card. I believe that’s called Ad hominem when you lack an actual argument.
It’s really getting a little embarrassing for you.
boon guardian is a bad spec, condition necro is a bad spec, tank warrior is a bad spec. this is why berserker gear is the best; non-DPS specs are suboptimal in dungeon running and thus bad.
However even even we entertained your notion it wouldn’t change the fact that the gear set is the best, most efficient set.
It is not. It’s the best for DPS output, yes, But it is not “best” for every class and every build out there. Have an open mind…
Please show us a more efficient gear set for a class in a dungeon outside of berserk er/assassin’s pieces. The only thing I can think of is adding condition pieces to an engineer. I expect a new meta by tomorrow morning.
Simply stating that berserker gear is the better gear set does not somehow result in forcing people to play a certain way. It also has nothing to do with expecting people to use it as their first set. You can take that vendetta elsewhere.
