What does the 26th have to do with it? I think the balance updates are every 4 months? (So at least another 3 months)
Off to the grove with me – thanks!
Thank you for fixing the Guild Bank bug, where items would disappear when removed (although easy enough to get back).
Thank you for fixing the rendering issue a couple of years ago, but it came back recently a bit. Seems to be getting better with each passing day.
Thank you for adding hidden (for a few minutes, lol) content…I like the kitties!
Thank you for the Support Tools you keep adding; I’m sure that means a lot to those that accidentally delete/lose items/characters, etc.
Thank you for continually upgrading our experience (Self-Stylist, Wallet additions, etc., etc.) with so many things, big and small.
Thank you for all your hard work, just to entertain us. =)
Don’t know about the kitties – but I agree that the QoL changes of the past year(s) are really good.
I’m glad I’m not on NA anymore – nearly every thread turns into a “Tier 4 discussion” – sounds very boring (and no, I have no idea what it is about).
No, you have to gain a rank each time to get the message a new poll is up. No idea if you can just get there from the forums – never tried it.
I usually never get the daily for ranks as I’m still mainly roaming – so it takes me quite a while to get these messages.
??? Yes because acro is more of a safe mode then sa, there is 2 passives in acro.
We know. DrD is as well – 3 dodges, heal on evades which come with acro and DrD.
And of course with Death Blossom – so you can call yourself 1337 power D/D.
You don’t do damage but you are annoying – actually: that sounds like something I should be running. I’m nearly convinced.
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Yeah, they were joking about the acro/drd/trickery build which is for better thieves who have got a better reaction time than I.
That may be true but they need to provide the tools for the players to make it happen.
Yes, like I said: class balance and maybe some group/zerg balance.
Like I also said: There was a gvg scene until HoT – they didn’t need the devs to make it happen. And actually gvg is the only reason why some people might indeed come back.
ETA: If this going to happen (which I doubt) they should have some devs though who know some gvg guilds or are even in one. Because that is the heart of wvw.
ETA²: The rest will solve itself as gvg guilds usually have some youtube presence or streams and even the biggest potatos (me and my buddies) know the most famous of them. If all of it is healthy then you might think about making some event out of it for marketing purposes – but I’d be very careful about that.
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I guess it’s best if anet keeps out of the GvG scene – worked 3 years without them and would still work if the devs invested some time into class balance.
No offense, but they break everything they touch.
Maybe the DBL should come without food buffs, like pvp.
Then I fought a power d/d thief and realized that your weaponset of choice actually has build variety.
See I asked this thief about how he makes D/D viable, and he replied, “You have to cut the cord from the SA trait line. It’s a crutch that bad thieves rely on because they have no reaction times.”
He the told me he runs Acrobatics, Trickery, and Daredevil.
Actually yeah – this is about the worst build one can have – no damage line (CS or DA). Might work against bad players.
You don’t really get the irony of that, do you?
And also not that you’re contradicting yourself.
I’ll leave it at that.
I didn’t chose – I didn’t get the memo that another poll was up.
ETA: That are some basics of statistics – not every wvw player has been asked and not every wvw player voiced their opinion. Even if it’s theoretically “all wvw players” it isn’t.
If there is so few people that enjoy the map, why the pool about it being discontinuated lost by almost 2:1 ratio?
I read some of the thread to the first poll: Quite a few people said they didn’t want the DBLs to be gone forever. Puck hinted what might have been a reason, I said that I lost interest in the polls when I wasn’t given a choice (also I had some other problems at that time and really: there were too many polls).
It’s a fun map to havoc with a few, but the good blob fights are in the keeps of the ABL and solo roamers are easily missed due to the map being 3 dimensional. So it’s a map for groups from 3-10. There are exceptions where people blob, I know, but still the map itself kills more than the enemy zerg.
I’m sorry but that is what I think.
I don’t want the DBLs to be gone forever as well, but I just don’t think it’s a wvw map and this is another drag for wvw in my opinion.
It’s still not a perfect map but they’ve made improvements to it. I’m more happy about variety than having no variety. And we had a blast with friends playing there last night.
The improvements are old and there’s really few who enjoy that map – what sense does it make to make it a permanent equal borderland if there’s only 5 of each server on it?
They could’ve added it to EotM – that would have made more sense.
They don’t do anything anyway.
Yeah, they just one shot you.
I was about to write a very angry bug report the first time that happened to me.
@ Blaqtak:
I’m a bit confused here: at first you acknowledge that D/D can’t really do that much to warrior, then you say that thief doesn’t need better brawling abilities.
So what do you mean: D/P doesn’t need better brawling abilities?
not to sound like a feminist or anything but have you seen terissimo? She’s a girl and kitten does she play thief so well. Just cuz ur a woman doesnt mean you can’t outproduce a guy :P
I haven’t seen her but I heard of her, so I guess she’s great.
I know that I can outplay guys – I mean in the end most people take ages to get that this ugly sensitive looking gigantic male human thief is in fact a female player – but: no one expects it HAH! (me to be great, that is)
ETA: We’re getting slightly offtopic here, btw
It’s really a shame that we can’t have a chit chat thread in each subforum – that would be awesome.
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Hmmm good idea, although I play gw2 on low settings so I doubt people would like to watch 30 fps thief one hit wonder xD
I do too
But then again, I’m a woman, so no one expects me to do great stuff.
ETA:
“And here’s my one hit wonder low resolution 30 fps video in which I show 50 deaths to mhhm bop by the Hansons”
“Nice, Jana slowclap”
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This will make the abominated map a lot more fun ahum.
I will tag up at your side while guarding the spawn.
“AFK at ginger tag!!”
ETA: It’s official – orange tag is now the afk tag.
ETA²: Come to think of it.. “Nerf orange tag, pls – I see squads of 50 afk-ing at spawn – think of the queue!!”
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Alright: I stopped caring about the polls altogether after the BL poll with no option. So, anet, if you ask yourself why people are still unhappy with the DBLs although the second poll said they should come back: there’s the likely answer.
Your opponent seemed pretty shy – but yeah, I guess all of us should make more videos to show some examples how the game is like for us.
Nooooo, most of my fights are “ok steal in backstab and try to dodge”… steals in then dies instantly… well kitten
Yeah well – could make a good video as well “One Hit Wonder”.
I’m pretty good at marketing videos, btw.
Yeah, probably.
I quit the warrior yesterday as I imagined our fights being a bit boring for him – but I was as reckless as ever which probably was my mistake.
Your opponent seemed pretty shy – but yeah, I guess all of us should make more videos to show some examples how the game is like for us.
Alright, trying to find it – watching your video in 0.25 – I hope you appreciate it :P
Edit: It’s 2:28 and that’s difficult because you basically hit his skill, no idea if that counts as being him or his plateau.
I think that’s still legit – even if he hadn’t all this fluff around him.
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Cnd is weird. 1 night after coming home drunk I played s bit of d/d vs a condi tempest. Skip to 2:23, that cnd should not of hit imo. https://youtu.be/0Fh84-ltXbU
2:23, are you sure? I don’t see a CnD there.
ETA: 2.13 is one and it should have hit and did hit. They are working on it – it is a bit wonky lately again, it was solid after the ICD patch.
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Their mistake was/is that they have no balance team – that cost them quite a lot of players and those won’t come back – making the game harder now by nerfing the elites would cost them the faceroll players who are the ones that are left.
There’s additionally some weirdos like me who are a general nuisance and not to be taken seriously.
Yeah but “it’s anets vision that D/D should be condi” – we have to adapt to that.
Yeah, I didn’t know that poll – maybe that was the time when I avoided the forums – or maybe didn’t play wvw.
I should’ve asked someone to inform me about the most crucial polls so I can vote. Too late now *sigh
Or: Wait a second: did that poll come after the 1 DBL, 2 ABL or… poll?
No, azukas talks about condi as to him/her D/D is a typical condi set and was never meant to be power OR EVEN IF WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE FLOW AND STOP COMPLAINING ALREADY
Not that easy with CnD
“Just go into stealth!!” Also warriors are pretty mobile with GS and do lots of AoE damage.
But with some practice I might have a chance.
Bandits defense only works with daredevil which is pretty unsuitable for D/D power.
Like I said – maybe D/D just needs some buffs but warrior is pretty strong overall, not just Berserker.
ETA: I guess warrior is one of the classes that’s either OP or UP – but there’s a lot of bugs in this game which have an influence on a class’ performance as well.
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And you have never faced a Berserker with durability runes? And think that all those who call that class and build OP should be ashamed of themselves – alright then. Why don’t we all just run the same class with the same build and call it a day? Even then skill wouldn’t matter if it’s berserker – just random wins/losses everywhere.
Jana kitten already holy crap. All you do is try to shame others for not playing terrible builds. Your d/d build is dead, get over it already. Better build != OP. I don’t even understand what is OP about boon duration on Warrior, their resistance and stability are long lasting/pulsing already. The only thing I see strongly buffed by boon duration is Healing Signet active use, which is useful but not game breaking.
Shut up, whoever you are – don’t pretend to know me and use that as an argument in a discussion.
Yeah thanks – finally a tag to compliment my (char’s) hair colour – the red was a bit off.
(I’m serious, btw).
If so you should remember the poll correctly: There was no option to vote for NO DBL. We had no choice
Valk/zerker but nothing would’ve helped me. A full Nomads thief would be interesting…
ETA: Thing is: Thief’s damage didn’t go up last June, the damage of all other classes did though – so thief has got comparatively less sustain than them – and that is a general problem, not only with thief, in wvw. Something in their calculations went wrong.
It was some fun fights, guess we’re friends now, but I had no chance as I can’t really see when he’s about to use eviscerate or his GS. Additionally he used shield while I was “trapped” in SR – and he hurt really bad
Then again: D/D thief is really weak, so maybe D/D jsut needs a few buffs but I don’t get why I get a 13k+ eviscerate in while my backstabs hit for ~7,7k. I guess you know what I mean.
Power
15 chars
Yeah but they still have a lot more sustain than a thief and dish out more damage – I duelled one yesterday. The problem I have is that I’m D/D so I’m close to my enemies – would be a different story if I were D/P.
DH Sustain is not so bad…Its the combination of sustain and massive damage. Engineer’s are the same way
Also Berserkers, Druids – there’s some stuff wrong with vanilla warrior too (no idea whether it’s a bug or the traits that are just too powerful while allowing him to be tanky) also Torment really needs to be reworked (looking at mesmers).
I’m currently relearning this game since I haven’t been able to hit properly for a long time. It’s still pretty wonky. And the stuff I say might not be that accurate – because I’m basically a noob who doesn’t know how to face certain classes.
In the end, the damage calculation in wvw might really need to be looked at (out of control since June 2015) and PvP should be more similar to wvw, otherwise this game won’t have a chance to be balanced.
We’re red this week – I rage quit earlier and think I’ll do a PvE or jam cooking week.
It’s not just the map’s mechanics and me feeling as if I have to fight the map instead of other players – it’s kind of a monument for everything that went wrong.
No offense, I know anet are giving their best, but a bit of better planing what to do with the traitlines, when to fix OP stuff, when to release the DBL (too soon and disregarding all concerns test players had) – would’ve spared all of us a lot of heart and headache. Now they can’t just take stuff away, although they should in some cases.
I’m good – I slept through the patch.
For example one bug that has recently been fixed (if my memory doesn’t fail me) and is now back – but I only noticed that in pve, might be that it’s in wvw as well but I’d need a 1 vs 1 or small scale to see that: enemies can simply run through my CnD – I cast it, they’re in front to me, about to pass me – but they just run through the CnD.
The Elites seem to be a bit better though – but then again, I need a 1 vs 1 or small scale to test it – the small scale I had tonight seemed unbugged.
Long story short: It might be that anet are currently working on the combat and that’s why I come across all these bugs as it’s work in progress.
In that case – thanks for working on it, anet, I do hope the results will be bug-free – otherwise I will keep on nagging
“Who doesn’t even know how to solo take a camp”
Lets be honest: There’s no safe way to do things in this meta – at least not for a thief.
I always called my server if I wanted a camp to be flipped “Ohhh Jost!! Not again!!” – and was really proud when I learned how to do it on my own. I could tell the whole story but it wouldn’t make too much sense, just: Even if it’s just PvE it still teaches how to play. You might die to the first 20 defenders but eventually learn how to deal with them. No reason to throw an encyclopedia at somebody who just started
We should make some builds though, probably – Metabattle doesn’t really help.
ETA: BTW: When I soloed my first tower I was majorly kittened at my server who were chickening and bickering around. So I just trebbed that kitten tower open and stormed it – while all the chicken stood beside me. Anger helps a lot in wvw too
ETA²: That was one week after I learned how to solo camps.
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For some reason I’m not losing against any thief (all D/P and staff).
Partly likely because they always stand in front of me waiting for the red black powder circle – thanks guys!!
Anyway: The reason why I switched back to D/D all those years ago was that it’s faster and I think it should excell at that.
My idea would be: reduce the initative cost for CnD and add blind to it and probably raise the vulnerability but I have no idea how that would favour signet builds – as usual I’m the emotional thief “girly” wheras Deceiver has got the numbers.
That would be to buff X/D against X/P builds – not really against other classes.
They’re currently working on combat (yes, anet, I notice even small changes) – so the ICD on stealth attacks hurts twice as much. I would like them to scrap the ICD for now or ever because the combat programming really is buggy – no matter what mode and it’s annoying in all modes. Without the ICD the bugs didn’t matter that much – now they do.
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And you have never faced a Berserker with durability runes? And think that all those who call that class and build OP should be ashamed of themselves – alright then. Why don’t we all just run the same class with the same build and call it a day? Even then skill wouldn’t matter if it’s berserker – just random wins/losses everywhere.
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So those people saying “you’re just using OP meta build” are completely irrelevant and should be ashamed of themselves rolf.
Let me guess what class with what build you’re running…
I just killed 5 with ony ally – open field – better reward for me than an exo.
There’s a reason I play wvw and the reason is not loot.
I did post a specific matter – I can’t do it more specifically – if that isn’t good enough for you just leave.
You do get that I’m complaining about them being op because the game is bugged not because anet made the Elites faceroll, yes?
I’m “fine” to lose against them if I’m even allowed to hit them.Broad complaints typically get completely ignored. Specific complaints made for long periods of time sometimes get adjustments.
It is very unlikely Anet is going to do a mass class balance from general player complaints.
It’s a bug not a balance problem – and I waited 1,5 years for another bug to be fixed – what should I do in your opinion shut up because “MMOs are like this and runes and stuff” THAT ISN’T THE POINT!