Because forget about thiefs having no support skills, being naturally squishy and having no access to shield/invul/aegis whatever. Lets remove mobility because no one should be mobile.
It’s your choice whether to build to be squishy or not, but I have yet to see a thief wearing PVT because incredible mobility plus invisibility plus giant spike MORE than makes up for it and that’s a problem.
ummm…. didn’t you just say you wanted them to lose their mobility? And PVT gear would kind of kill those massive spikes…….
But at least they’d still have stealth right? That means they could…. um….. stand around not doing anything without you seeing them…..
So basically they could watch other people play the game….
Obviously there would have to be some form of compensation, but endless mobility is insane!
….You do realize the mobility is the compensation for not having the innate survivability of the other professions right?
I realise, and imo, it’s overcompensation.
Druids are compensating for somenthing they don’t have, bwahahahaha.
/endlife
NSP is linked with DH, which is super fairweather heavy… I wouldn’t be suprised if all the PvX guilds from there are actively raiding WvW now that the server isn’t struggling.
YB in tier 1: Why should a game get boring if people are actually trying to play the system? Try to find a way around it by defending, by guessing where they go and ambush them. If they maphop they can only come from uncontested waypoints, so why is it so hard to find them and fight them?
Because once you find them they map hop again….
I dont have a lot of hours to play, I’m not going to waste my time playing hide and seek and never getting a decent fight.
So if they run it’s not good, and when you get them to fight it’s also not good… No way to please you then man.
Sorry I guess I should have said “any fight”. Most of the people I ran across would head for the nearest portal as soon as they saw me. I’ve also had a stupid amount of people just stand still and let me kill them without trying to fight when I caught them out in the open.
Well, I roam a lot for YB and most of time all I find are people waiting for friends to engage one of the “so-bad-YB-player-who-can’t-fight-back-or-wp-at-sight”. For servers who claim to be so much better, I don’t see why everytime I need to be fighting outnumbered. Pretty sure they should be able to fight on even ground, no?
Honestly, all servers are just as bad in that regard. All the hate on YB looks silly to me. There is no promissed land of balance and good fights.
I’m talking about the current link, not the past the link. SBI dominated T4 in the past link not on this one (only SoS and YB rolled a T4 match in the current link without being T4 servers).
Alright you got me man! they don’t balance to the tier! NSP was balanced for t3!
NSP is currently blowing out t4 by 100k, and the most 1st place skirmish wins than any other tier. Just shows their link is t3 size and not the entire tier, really that different from when CD was the 4 headed mislinked monster stomping t4?
But yeah I’m sure the other two server links in t4 would be competitive in t3, totally.
Let’s also forget that YB and FA were beating up t3 just a few weeks ago, yup, SBI is totally ready to take on t2.
Filling a post with sarcasm isn’t really going to make you look smarter. But anyway:
Yes, NSPPT should have been on T3 for a while now.
Yes, DB should be in T4.
Yes, the T4 servers are problably competitive with SoS (and problably with SBI pre transfers, now I they are problably too fat for T4).
No I don’t think SBI is T2 material, altho I’m sure that if JQ ever drop, they will have a hard time handling servers with NA heavy presence and will likely have their glicko rating leeched.
YB in tier 1: Why should a game get boring if people are actually trying to play the system? Try to find a way around it by defending, by guessing where they go and ambush them. If they maphop they can only come from uncontested waypoints, so why is it so hard to find them and fight them?
Because once you find them they map hop again….
I dont have a lot of hours to play, I’m not going to waste my time playing hide and seek and never getting a decent fight.
So if they run it’s not good, and when you get them to fight it’s also not good… No way to please you then man.
Hm, in the weeks before that SoS kept pace with SBI, yet when SBI came to t4 they dominated them. Was that the week skirmish changes came in?
Also I think it’s obvious by now that DB is a t4 server and NSP is a t3 server since YB left those tiers.
I’m talking about the current link, not the past the link. SBI dominated T4 in the past link not on this one (only SoS and YB rolled a T4 match in the current link without being T4 servers).
Which makes no sense since they don’t even build the links according to multiple tier, but just to the tiers the servers are in. It’s obvious actual t4 server links cannot compete in t3, t3 server links cannot compete in t2 and so on. The only time we’ve seen servers make those jumps in power is because a) they made a mistake in the link (4 headed cd monster) or b) a server was asleep, got a link and then dominated again, see bg and yb.
It also isn’t good for a population to keep yo-yoing them up and down the ranks, eventually players will look for more stable situations.
SoS, a T3 server, rolled down T4 for one week and LOST (They came in 2nd and only 3k ahead of 3rd). Your argument about how T4 cannot compete in T3 ends here.
People will always complain when YB is involved because nobody likes the way YB plays the game. You can see this one dude saying more people quit the game because they are facing YB. Well, a lot of people quit when DH was constantly being spawn camped by Maguuma but nobody cried. I guess it’s all ok when it’s the other servers but tables must be flipped when it’s YB.
“YB kept their place in T1 by tryharding the last 2-3 days when everyone was on casual mode”. Well, if you were so worried about it you wouldn’t be in casual mode. I thought T1 was the apex of scoring? How can you let a server that everyone call so bad overtake the “almighty #1” and the “fites server”? People work for the score, and YB worked for theirs. Don’t come to me and cry about how YB do that in less populated zones. That’s how servers get on T1 isn’t? By having a better coverage… Plus YB surely have holes in coverage. The other servers don’t exploit it because they don’t want or don’t care, so crying about it is just silly.
Now serious talk: If YB is all that bad and nobody want to play with them, why people don’t just leave them alone in the top of tier 1 and transfer to the lower tier servers to have the so called fights you people seek? With the glicko walls that end up being formed around T2-T3, It’s just you don’t go hardcore PPT YB style that you won’t move up. But I guess in the end that’s not what you people want. You rather stay on the same tier as YB and complain about it.
@ jeknar ~ No disrepect Jeknar but there is no contradiction in my post regarding the OP in that i was shocked at learning Yb was getting any adjustment at all. It is quite obvious that Anet was reducing the +150 adjustment to +75.
YB received that adjustment because there was 100 glicko difference between T2 and T3, and there was some crying from T3 players (SoS/SBI) about how YB had to move up because they didn’t belonged there. Anet gave them 150 so they could roll up, and there were salty tears about YB being manually adjusted all over this forum, regardless of the fact that YB was winning T2 by a large margin.
Sure, their KDR blows, but someone has to be the loser of the fights. All matchups tend to have at least one server that is at 0.8 or lower.
You have a point about the warscore being the ONLY metric which is being used to exclude much better opponents in any match up.
My view is only that i value good fights rather than siege hugging / back capping.
The view that only YB do that is old. Seriously, I’ve seen as much siege humping from TC as I’ve seen from YB. Every server have these people who refuse to fight and will hide behind walls/siege.
Honestly, if YB was running from all fights like everyone is saying why would their KDR be so low? They shouldn’t be dying if they aren’t even fighting amirite? They may not be the best fighters but they are surely out there trying.
I am a little horrified that Yb are having their glicko manually adjusted and not earning their place in tier 1 when they solely play a pvd game and avoid fights at every opportunity.
How competitive are they really with a 0.7 k/d ratio when compared to Tc or Maguuma with 1.1 and 1.2 respectively in the current NA matchup? Sure they play a sneaky back capping PPT game that leads to warscore but is that all the devs use a metric for a free hand out?
Is this the style of game play the devs really want to promote to exclude one of the other servers from T1?
I have no dislike of Yb inherently because they provide so many loot bags but should they be artificially helped into a tier they obviously don’t belong in atm?
You are contradicting yourself here buddy… They are reducing the +150 adjustment they made before to only +75 since YB is being competitive at T1 scorewise. Which mean they are REDUCING the chance of YB rolling T1 and not giving them a steady holding in it.
And yes, warscore is the metric they use. Much better than KDR which can be inherited from only engaging when you are sure you can win promoting people to run away and fight when only outnumbering (happens a lot regardless of KDR tbh). If we were going to judge for KDR, FA would keep bouncing between T2 and T3 everytime because they are always at 0.7 on T2 and 1.5+ on T3 when we already saw that FA shouldn’t be on T3 (When YB moved up and FA went down when it should have been DB).
I wonder why it’s 195 tho and not let’s say 250, since the rewards are awarded every 500 points. At any case, I feel the current frequency is good enough.
Why does the wvw laurel vendor sell amulets and rings at a discount for laurels and badges of honor, but the accessories are still full price + ecto?
It has always been like that…I really don’t know why. You can get them through other means, guild commendations can be used to get ascended accessories. But the best option is to farm blood rubies and petrified wood to get the new ascended trinkets including back pieces from the 2 new pve maps. You can also farm these items through reward tracks in pvp/wvw, you will still need to farm the unbound magic though but it’s not hard. The nice thing about these trinkets is that you can choose any stat in the game, and can reset the stats.
You can salvage Rubies and Stumps for Unstable Magic. So you can get everything without leaving WvW.
People will learn to call local stuff in mapchat and global stuff in teamchat.
This is not a problem because of the change, but because of the bad scout calls.
But it’s easier to blame arena net than educate players.
Haha, yeah, that’s the one piece I don’t run. Just not worth it overall imo, but it does add to the hustle. But I do run sword, and I suspect you don’t. Sword brings more hustle than Bull’s Charge.
Oh I know Bull’s Charge is meh overall, but I love hitting my shoulder on someone’s face and 100b them (and miss because my toon didn’t stopped where it should). Also, I tried to run somenthing different on my Longbow place, but I miss easy activation of cleasing ire and adrenal health with all the condi builds out there.
A warrior do have that and a warrior can still wear nike shoes.
It’s rare that I disagree with two of your posts in one day, but man, the days of nike warriors being a thing is long gone.
I normally run a build that has more hustle than the vast majority of warriors out there, and I’m still middle of the pack in terms of builds with escape/pursue potential. It’s been that way for more than a year.
My ability to escape is based as much on proper positioning and effective use of terrain.
You need that bull’s charge man… GS 3 > 5 > BC and the only thing that will likely catch up with you will be another high mobility toon like thief or druid. That’s the experience on my warrior so far at least. And I run Longbow, so I don’t have another set of running like sword+warhorn.
Nah, I see a lot of people running LB instead of GS with the meta build because it’s nice to keep people away from you and to combo it with the quickness Rapid Fire + Bristleback Barrage.
Honestly, I see more LB than GS overall.
Maybe if some (most?) other classes wouldn’t have 101 passive defenses which make them almost untouchable, AND at the same time damage close or on par to thieves’, the thieves wouldn’t actually run away?
A warrior do have that and a warrior can still wear nike shoes.
Desert BL if isn’t yours is the fastest way to bump participation fast. With all the camps/sentries/shrines and also the veteran events, you can easily get 195.
Of course, you can always try solo a tower. It’s a bit annoying but it’s perfectly doable by most professions and builds.
Other buffs aren’t held by objective… And you receive a warning when you gain or lose bloodlust which would be the closest to the shrine buffs. You argument is invalid.
These buffs are not worth the effort of keeping them, thus why no one bother keeping all the shrines… We just flip 1 or 2 to disable annoying turrets when attacking the side keeps and that’s most use you’ll see from them.
What does it make if you are spawn camped at the gate or 1200 units outside of the gate? You still have a huge invulnerable area, and you still have other exits including 3 other maps to choose from.
This gate don’t have a invulnerable area, otherwise he wouldn’t be dead where he is.
Also, this map only have 2 exits (not 3). Allowing spawn camp in a map that people already despite isn’t a good deal.
No wonder I haven’t played in a month’s time now, I don’t even feel the incentive to keep the game on my hd seeing this. And I’m not blaming you either, but those who made these easy-cheap mechanics so strong.
People are targetting you because you are a druid. Currently, Druids are problably the most hated class while roaming, even above thief.
Nobody actually will care to think “oh, maybe this guy is running somenthing different” because everyone instantly assume everyone run the same kitten we come across 99% of the time.
Unfortunely for you, the most effective stats ARE the 4 stats HoT gear… Altho some are rather cheap (wanderer, marauders, viper) compared to others (trailbrazzers, minstrel).
For your build needs you can always look at metabattle and adapt it to your own playstyle.
If you prefer not so large scale you could problably try SBI, SoS or NSP.
Actually SoS has always been carried by their night crew as well so the op should probably avoid that one.
SoS received quite a few guilds from dyingbrand and people looking for a stable T3 server (altho SoS rolled a T4 matchup where it was defeated, so I wouldn’t be sure about that).
There really is not much point of moving servers these days, since you just get moved around anyway due to server linking. All you need to do is to find a WvW guild to run with and stop being a pug, and you’ll have fun regardless of the outnumbered buff or not.
You asking a person that play ranger to stop being a pug, which implies that he will join some guild that will force him to change characters… Yeah, good luck with that.
Back to the OP, you are on JQ, a server known for being carried by the SEA off-hours and weak NA presence. I would strongly advise you to move now that with the current system, one timezone alone can no longer carry a server. Now you ask me “where?”. Tbh, any NA host server that isn’t JQ/DB have a healthy NA population (guest servers are tricky since they get shuffled every 2 months). The higher you go more people you’ll find. If you want to surround yourself with people you should try TC or YB (Or even Maguuma, but that server have a peculiar attitude that most players find toxic). If you prefer not so large scale you could problably try SBI, SoS or NSP.
