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Absolutely nobody uses that man. Never seen anyone try to use that, and I’ve got over 4k games played.

There is also not enough room to describe what you are looking for and where you can be contacted to form a tournament team.

Problem: Because of the influx of wvw and pve players alike, the number of players in those game modes outweigh the sole pvp players. This causes issues with the Looking For Group/Team thread, because PvPers looking for a 5 man team have no chance of having their thread being seen with all the wvw/pve guild postings.

Solution: Please revert this thread back to how it was before, when it was split into 3 different game modes. Before the change, it was very easy to find other pvpers looking to do casual 5 mans or compete in tournaments.

I think engis are fine as is but there slick shoes need to be nerfed. I like the idea of the circles disappearing once they are stepped on.

That’s because there are barely any 4v5s anymore. This guy probably just got out of a 4v5 and is salty.

So they also said that our great sword will replenish life force but I hope to god it’s not a terrible amount or else we’ll be following the pattern of having sub par LF gain

It seems even though every necromancer ever has complained about long cast times, the devs still didn’t feel the need to relieve us of that burden.

I know, I know “I’m judging too quickly”, but if you think about certain skills like Churning Earth on the elementalist, something like that is always easily avoided. I just hope we don’t have a ton of skills that are TOO avoidable, as they have mentioned that we will indeed have long cast times.

I hope giving us these damaging shouts doesn’t lead us into being nerfed to oblivion again. I mean we have a ton of damage, why give us more?

The video looked really cool, and PvE might be more fun as a necromancer now.

In regards to PvP………..time will tell.

I pooped myself watch the vid.

You could express support by keeping it in one thread. -.-

Imo I don’t think sigils are an issue right now, the grand scheme of balance lies within the classes themselves, sigils are merely just adjustments that make the base build excel further. When one nerf comes there will be only one thing left to blame and it will be the classes themselves. So why come up with a small issue that will get in the way of class balancing progress? Doesn’t make sense to me.

Kousetsu.1627:

that screenshot shows you damage taking from multiple sources (mes, warrior), if both are zerker, those amount of procs seem pretty normal.

this ^

I don’t know why this is an issue all of a sudden. If you remove the sigils from the current specs such as shoutbow, its not like the spec will become unviable, just weaker. The build itself is strong, and assuming that air/fire and swap sigils etc carry builds is so kitten incorrect!

Anyways, this is the gw2 pvp system, and I don’t think it will be changed. (I hope it doesn’t).

Instead of people crying like little babies, may be you should propose changes! Changes are actual changes, definitions, not a ideology. Don’t say “sigils should be this way”, instead say “This sigil is like this _ and should change to this_”

Ratphink.4751:

People keep saying we need Mobility, and while I understand the sentiment I’d much rather Anet revisit their idea that Necros should be harder to escape from, if not one of the hardest classes to escape from. Increasing the speed of Dark Path would be a huge help in this, and I think that was also their mentality when they started talking about Chill in the Trait overhaul preview. Unfortunately though, due to stupid long cast times and stupid slow projectiles we simply can’t do that.

Also I’d much rather see us gain more ability to hold our ground. If we’re meant to be a low mobility class with stupid health give us the ability to hold our ground. At the very least we need more access to stability, otherwise our healthpool is utterly meaningless if we’re just stun locked and taking an absolute thrashing. So I say less focus on mobility, more focus on our ability to lock a target down (immobs, chills, and cripples) and the ability to mitigate damage better than just taking it when we’re stunlocked and have no other course of action.

What in the F* are you talking about?

Necromancers have so much soft CC to stop an opponent from running away???!!!! The only thing that limits us is when they use a leap skill or teleport or some other mobility skill that we simply can’t keep up with the range, so we can no longer soft cc them. If we got one leap on our great sword I would be happy.

Darksteel.8412:

Jelzouki.4128:

Darksteel.8412:

Jelzouki.4128:

Darksteel, if you can’t be respectful to posters like sagat and zap and Ron who are making civilised discussions with you then stop posting. All you are doing is stating your own facts without any legitimate proof. That’s very nice that you won a 1v1 against an ele, we are all applauding you.

Please don’t insult someone, then call them out for insulting you, that is basically asking for it.

A: who are you? an Anet dev?….no? ow oke…hush… B: that is your opinion. thanks for caring tho. ps. sagat got his post removed…civilized you say…lel get real buddy and mind your own biznizz -_-

You are on an online forum, this is anybody’s business as long as they wish to discuss.

That wasn’t an opinion. You are literally saying things that make no sense. You tried comparing life force to adrenaline, and when someone proved you wrong, you tried to play it off as if you were aware. If a necromancer could gain life force as quick as a warrior gains adrenaline the necromancer would be unstoppable. Aaaaaand that’s the type of uncivilised rebuttle I was looking for! Bravo!

never said as fast as…only said both statr empty and can only be build in and maintained in combat (tho adrenaline drops when out of combat and lf does not)….stop lying, stop putting words in my mouth stop acting innocent…git gud, now get your attention elsewhere lol you are no anet dev…it’s not you to correct anyone even if youre correct about your statements…wich you are not

You still don’t understand that a necromancer with 0 life force has a very big disadvantage compared to a warrior with 0 adrenaline. I like the random “git gud” in your paragraphs, they really bring out that you’re struggling to even comprehend what everyone was trying to tell you. Yes I am aware I am not an arenanet dev…..you don’t need to be a dev to reply to comments!

Darksteel.8412:

Jelzouki.4128:

Darksteel, if you can’t be respectful to posters like sagat and zap and Ron who are making civilised discussions with you then stop posting. All you are doing is stating your own facts without any legitimate proof. That’s very nice that you won a 1v1 against an ele, we are all applauding you.

Please don’t insult someone, then call them out for insulting you, that is basically asking for it.

A: who are you? an Anet dev?….no? ow oke…hush… B: that is your opinion. thanks for caring tho. ps. sagat got his post removed…civilized you say…lel get real buddy and mind your own biznizz -_-

You are on an online forum, this is anybody’s business as long as they wish to discuss.

That wasn’t an opinion. You are literally saying things that make no sense. You tried comparing life force to adrenaline, and when someone proved you wrong, you tried to play it off as if you were aware. If a necromancer could gain life force as quick as a warrior gains adrenaline the necromancer would be unstoppable. Aaaaaand that’s the type of uncivilised rebuttle I was looking for! Bravo!

Darksteel, if you can’t be respectful to posters like sagat and zap and Ron who are making civilised discussions with you then stop posting. All you are doing is stating your own facts without any legitimate proof. That’s very nice that you won a 1v1 against an ele, we are all applauding you.

Please don’t insult someone, then call them out for insulting you, that is basically asking for it.

Rip necros and rangers if this goes through

ohhhh, okay yeah.

So do you think there will be room for change between now and the trait update?

So regarding this thread that has tons of information, how much of it do you think will make it to the specialization? I mean, seeing as how we will probably see the necro specialization this friday, would they have had any time to implement any of our suggestions they deemed suitable?

I want the specialization to be called Phantom…

go to gw2 dulfy web page, and read about the incoming ele nerfs.

choucs.4507:

Jelzouki.4128:

Lol at the people telling me necro is in a good place right now. If you think necro is in a good place because someone from abjured who gets BABYSAT by his teammates successfully wins NA tourneys that his hysterical! Necromancer is the only class that has to facetank damage without any blocks/invulns to survive focus fire. The EU teams are way better than NA, you should never ever reference any team from NA!

Noscoc will die to focus fire just like every other necro player, he is not the only god mode necro on NA. There is a difference between a class surviving on its own, and a class that cannot survive on its own! PLLLEASEEE play necromancer before you spit out your own tiny winy facts! Rip!

Babysitting LOL, it’s a team game, because they would totally run some thing that does not improve their team performance. lol no, they are running that because they think it’s the best option for their style.
also every class die when focused, i don’t even, man.
BTW abjured is better then 99% of the teams in EU

So 1%? looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Lol at the people telling me necro is in a good place right now. If you think necro is in a good place because someone from abjured who gets BABYSAT by his teammates successfully wins NA tourneys that his hysterical! Necromancer is the only class that has to facetank damage without any blocks/invulns to survive focus fire. The EU teams are way better than NA, you should never ever reference any team from NA!

Noscoc will die to focus fire just like every other necro player, he is not the only god mode necro on NA. There is a difference between a class surviving on its own, and a class that cannot survive on its own! PLLLEASEEE play necromancer before you spit out your own tiny winy facts! Rip!

LOOOL plzzz teach me how to master necro Jon Peters plzzzz?!?! Y u do dis Jon peters y u ignore necro for 2 years plzz teach us how to master plzzz!?!

All bugs are posted in the bugs section.

Even if you have already, do it again.

I wouldn’t mind a prestige system like call of duty.

Listen before you flame me about referencing cod, someone who is high prestieged in cod, is at the very least decent at the game, and it would help weave out inexperienced from the experienced, but of course I would only allow tomes to be used 80 times per acct.

I’ll be nicer to anet when they stop ignoring necromancer problems.

Just in case it wasn’t said, please take away deathshroud cancelling the stomp against players. I.e when I am stomping a player, I should be able to use my deathshroud without it cancelling the stomp, almost every class can use their F1 abilities while stomping! (granted the warrior has unique F1’s that don’t apply here, but works with their profession great)

I can see necromancers getting something like venoms from thieves, more than something like a mantra.

As a necromancer, we probably receive the most harassment from thieves and mesmers, and arguably rangers.

But the thief and mesmer changes look so strong, we better pray we are getting a strong offense or defence if we are ever going to survive this new meta…

At least people can cry “SECOND HEALTHBAR” to another class now lol (mes)

Yeah please post to the PvP Forum Specialist report.

On behalf of all the necromancers, THANK YOU GATES!!!!!!

Most versatile class? ….I’ll have to disagree.

If you are talking in terms of WvW, yes we are not too shabby.

In PvE we are in last place in terms of damage output.

In PvP we are easily focused, stun locked, and have poor mobility. I guess they all relate to being focused.

As a zerker, we are decent, we are not great, we are not meta. Only really good for +1-ing a fight.

As a tank, we have defenses that dont support our allies and a whole traitline that is underpowered in terms of healing (blood magic). HP contributes to bunking but to an extent, whats more HP going to do if you can’t sustain yourself with negating damage as efficiently as others? Take a look at the Altruistic Healing bunker gaurdian. This build has about 16k hp and can sustain itself way more efficiently and put out way more support than a bunker necro. Deathshroud does not scale to the amount of players attacking it. A block can absorb an infinity amount of damage whereas our deathshroud can absorb a specific amount.

As a condition class, we are again, not to shabby but in this current meta our conditions are seeing less and less effectiveness. In soloQ it will be strong, but I’m afraid against a well rounded team you will be shut down.

That is just my view of necromancer.

Omg I forgot about that. Gates please please help get Parasitic Contagion into blood magic I do not know why it is in a power traitline.

Not “more buffs”, we expected better buffs.

In the case of death/blood magic, yes we hardly got any buffs.

Oh I don’t think anyone mentioned this but if this isn’t just limited to traits, a lot of our cooldowns and after cast are really long and should be given a second look. I.e reapers touch cast time + after cast makes casting it useless because I could have used dagger auto attacks in the time I spent trying to get reapers touch off.

Also axe needs to have increased range, 900.

This has been talked about in the forums for some while. Idk if you want to throw that in your report but yeeeeeah.

Since I have a lot of faith in most of the posters on here, who I know to be avid necromancer players I don’t have any suggestions that weren’t already covered, but I will once again leave you with this video of a man who outlines the general idea of where necromancer is and what is wrong with it.

And one problem that I want to make sure the devs understand is that deathshroud does not scale with the people around it. i.e a block/invuln can take 50000 damage while deathshroud can only take a limited amount. This is my view of why our mechanic is severely flawed.

Waiting for the devs to do something about necro has me like https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/15215449/Waiting-Skeleton

The two prevalent warrior builds in “meta-history” have been hambow and as of late shoutbow.

Both of these builds have something in common.

The rotation with your weapon sets is STUPID EASY.

Can we get a warrior build that doesn’t make you feel brain-dead please?

+1 to chaiths proposal, doesn’t seem game breaking and seems like a step in the right direction for diversity.

They basically just gave you a reason to use it, as an “o-kitten” button. It’s fine as is.

+1 to the presentation. Very good idea.

+1 to your changes.

Still fuming over the stream.

Now conjure something up for blood magic will ya?

• Deathly invigoration back to master trait as it should be.
• Life Transfer back to adept, unless it grants stability on use to make it worth using, OR nerf the healing but let the healing apply to the necromancer as anet had made it clear that we are a selfish class

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Gryph.8237:

Gates, fogive my lack of faith in anet right now.

I fully understand why you’re worried, but you have to understand the situation we’re in. They’re working on an expansion and they’re given free reign to fully rework everything in every single class. They’ve never really had that chance as the motto of the company was “very little changes over long times”. They are HEAVILY looking for your feedback and the information I send them has had a large affect on what they’ve done. Did you know that the reason they changed Foot in the Grave to a stunbreak was because of the forums? Turret engi nerf? Forums.

If players post me some good feedback and suggestions, it’ll get to the devs and things will change. Watch.

I can vouch for all my necromancer posters in the necro forum when I say this, ABSOLUTELY NONE of those changes are changes that have been talked about in the forums for the past 4 months. I’m in that forum at least once a day.

Such disappointment. If you really want some feedback, I suggest you go to the necromancer forums, and watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pna1XlfVYqs

Making deathly invigoration grandmaster was beyond stupid.

I honestly give up, I’m not suggesting anything. We found out how much they care/know about the necromancer when they stated “necro has 2 lifebars”.

I am completely DUMBFOUNDED.

All we have left is our specialization, as well as the greatsword…even then idk what else to hope for.

They could have at least gave us some mobility, but nah.

Laraley.7695:

Were there any major changes to necromancer? I missed it.

Anyways, I feel like they chose some specific classes to buff and didn’t really care about others. It’s like they don’t even know what to do with certain proffesions. (Necro, Mesmer, Ele)

Power necro received some decent buffs, as well as minion master.

Condi necro and the hopes and dreams of ever having a sustainable necro utilizing blood magic were crushed.

I was really disappointed in the blood magic/death magic changes.

Oh wait there were hardly any.

After 3 years we’re still going to have the pathetic siphoning that can be outhealed by a simple regeneration boon? Yes you heard me, our source of healing (siphons) can be outhealed by the regeneration boon.

I can’t stress enough how much I would love for deathshroud to stop being called a second health bar. I need the devs to understand that blocks and invulnerabilities are much more efficient than our deathshroud, simply because it scales with an infinity amount of players.

“This hasn’t changed, neither has this, or this” <——sums up the necro stream

Necromancer gets trolled confirmed.

Yeah that’s another thing that kittened me the kitten off.

Their reactions to the changes: “yeah…” “cool…” “ok..”

Like it’s so kittening crystal kittening clear that they didn’t have any excitement or enthusiasm when presenting necro compared to the other classes. They actually showed us today that they have no kittening clue what to do with necro. Rerolling revenant confirmed.

kitten this game.

Yeah kitten these changes kitten me the kitten off.

Some of them were good, but holy kitten! The classes before necro got some huuuuuge buffs. We got kitten on, once again.

kitten this game.

I’m praying our specialization kicks kitten .

These changes haven’t even been in game yet and you’re complaining.

Sit down.

what was arena net thinking