Guild Wars 2

Sun Lian.4075:

How hard do you think it is to stack bleeds?

I already tested in a 1v1 with an engi that knows what he’s doing and he says the same, it’s not really a damage nerf but you just might need a bit different build or skill rotation in order to make sure that you stack enough bleeds.

Is there some sort of secret build that we haven’t found????

There isn’t really a skill rotation to necro, everything for the most part, is opportunistic.

I can’t listen to somebody who sounds like they know nothing about necro.

Dead.5829:

Legendary this last season felt very, very easy.

I’m not sure it’s the best benchmark. What is? I… don’t even know.

I don’t know what you’re trying to insinuate but base condi necro is a decent build. It has nothing to do with how easy this season was.

Zenith.7301:

PvP balance, guys. They don’t give a rat’s kitten about PvE in this game.

Reaper shouts and traits are still garbage in PvE, but hey PvP whine so nerf some more.

What the hell are you on about?

Reaper is perfectly fine in PvE.

They buffed sword, maybe they are trying to push sword into the meta as it does have condi cleanse. And coupled with the trait that removes condis when evading, it might start making its way into meta but I don’t main thief, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Kappa.
At least now thieves can’t mindlessly remove chill….oh wait they still can.

You know how I know these developers make kittened changes… HOW THE kitten does anyone who knows anything about necro realize that offhand focus #4 (reapers touch) should have received a projectile speed increase??? It is super buggy with terrain possibly because of how slow it is; what the actual kitten? This is horse kitten seriously idgaf about chill being nerfed I’m more concerned that we have a dev balancing this game who gives a speed increase to offhand dagger but not reapers touch?

What happens now is reapers touch is still bad but when they actually decide to fix the projectile it will become stronger but will have a shorter cool down than it was before. It’s almost as if one balance patch kittens over the next patch, and I bet dollars to donuts it doesn’t just happen with necro. WHAT THE HELL FIRE YOUR BALANCE TEAM.

Edit: have to mention that axe is still terrible. Sick update.

3 years of worthlessness, pleeeeeeeease help this weapon.

Forestgreen.7981:

A-Net you’ve made legendary rank a joke. Please consider shortening the seasons as players can’t just brute force their way up the ranks.

It’s better than last season. At least they are making progress. You can’t just grind your way to legendary.

Spartacus.3192:

Krysard.1364:

I would say that the biggest problem of rev is not only that fulfills exactly the same role than other classes but with more succes, but the horrible design that he have. Rev needs an overall rework imo.

It definitely needs rework.

The class has good potential. I have noticed though that compared to say necro and DH which pretty much anyone can pick up and be decent at very very quickly, with rev there are sooooo many terrible ones out there. The difference between the average power rev and a good power rev is huge and it comes down to skill.

When I’m on my Scrapper, DH or condi Rev i would much rather face a power rev than another Scrapper,DH or condi rev because i know there is a high chance they will be average and much easier to kill.

No I’m not saying that rev is more survivable than scrapper but it is more survivable then any of the other classes you mentioned, when running a power spec.

And yes it is easy to pick up reaper and deal damage with it, but like your observation about revenanrs, there are a lot of bad reapers out there because they have bad positioning. Reaper being one of the easiest classes to lock down and always has been, will never come close to being easier to play than a revenant.

Spartacus.3192:

Jelzouki.4128:

Spartacus.3192:

because some power specs last more than the 3 seconds that the average power rev lasts vs the condi cancer classes out there.

I’d argue that all power specs get destroyed by condi builds, not just revenant. That claim doesn’t hold any worth.

you can argue if you like but everyone knows that the biggest weakness of Power Rev is condi and its way worse than any other spec. Power Rev meta build has the least condi clears out of any power spec class.

DH has wings of resolve, Smite Condition (utility as well as on heal effect). Can trait for Remove condition on block also.

Scrapper has remove conditions on elixir and heal use. Elixir gun has cleanse conditions. Can remove conditions by combo of light field.

Thief can clear conditions on evade/dodge. Can clear in stealth.

Sorry but Power Rev is bottom of the list when it comes to condi cleansing.

Yet it still proves to be more survivable than these classes. That’s hilarious. Give it condi cleanse see what happens.

Spartacus.3192:

because some power specs last more than the 3 seconds that the average power rev lasts vs the condi cancer classes out there.

I’d argue that all power specs get destroyed by condi builds, not just revenant. That claim doesn’t hold any worth.

It’s not solely the broken damage output.

It’s the fact that it pretty much renders any power spec worthless. Why play any other power spec besides revenant?

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Reaper is strong for 2 reasons only.
1) They build variety. They can take reapper line and any 2 other lines and still make a viable/solid build.
2) They have strong synergy between traits and traits between skill trees and weapon skills.

This is also why warrior is not so strong. No build variety. No synergy between traits/skill trees and weapons.

So the obvous response to this is, “lets nerf what works and what every profession should have had.”

Scrapper is strong. Although not as strong, it still has good synergy between trees.
Rev is strong..still weak to conditions, but overall good synergy between trees and herald.

etc etc..

Look at who is weak..the professions that have no synergy.

Any necro build without Soul reaping has terrible life force generation, and if you try to compensate somewhere else for the life force, you end up with bad damage output. And you certainly don’t want to play as a support necro.

So you’re wrong about that aspect regarding reapers.

Seems doubtful.

Edit: The part about reapers and mesmers coming to an end.

“Ahh this question again.” Said every necro to play the game ever.

You see, every class has some sort of damage mitigation mechanic. A Thief has stealth and evades, a mesmer has stealth, clones, invulns, a warrior has invulns, passive healing(lolwarriorissotrash), a gaurdian has lots of blocks, some healing, an invuln.

Basically what I’m getting at is all these classes have defenses that scale with the number of people attacking them.

I.e Endure Pain can absorb infinite amounts of damage whereas deathshroud has a set limit and thats it. The mobility isn’t as great as other classes too, making necros a really easy target to focus.

A necro starting without deathshroud is the worst case scenario for entering a fight because he can’t defend himself if a coordinated duo is focusing him, hense why they get deleted by bursty classes.

Don’t expect a necro to outheal the other classes too, that won’t happen. A Druid has access to lots of healing, mobility, minor stealth, and invuln if you take protect me or signet of stone.

princode.2750:

There’s a reason 70% of player queuing up is reaper…reaper must be tone down

The reason a lot of people play reaper is because it’s pretty easy to deal damage with, but you can tell the absolute terrible reapers from the better ones so easily. Most of the reapers in pvp just spam everything and don’t know how to survive.

On the other hand of the spectrum, if you’re dying to a reaper who just spams his skills and doesn’t position himself right or uses skills mindlessly, you’re playing your class just as bad as he.

With regards to the condi mesmer, a reaper is definitely something a good condi mesmer can kill.

pvp needs to be separate from WvW and PvE, it’s too constraining for all three game modes to be balanced on the same platform and way too easy to break the game. Make PvP separate and we might actually get somewhere.

Like the person above me said it’s a telegraphed skill, and pretty much every aoe field in the game is unblockable

You can tell who the casuals are and who the good players are on this thread.

MMR Hell is an excuse for being terrible at this game. Fix your gameplay folks stop double dodging.

50% win rate does not equal good matchmaking.

Thank you Evan for finally telling these casuals that the reason they are in losing streaks in emerald is because they need to IMPROVE SKILL. You can only climb so much to the point where you need to fix your own gameplay instead of whining. I consider myself to be above average as I almost made it into season pro league, and am legendary rank which sort of supports what I say next. Legendary division feels a lot better this season because the games are closer, the people are better, and unfortunately the queues are longer but its all worth it because I know the people in legendary didn’t have to go on a grind fest. Most of the people I know in legendary didn’t lose a single match until they hit ruby. It’s very simple to climb you just need to IMPROVE your gameplay. /caps typing from phone sorry for grammar

So many unwarranted necro nerf suggestions. Do us a favor buddy let the reaper community decide on what to do. Id say 9/10 of your nerfs for necro are absolutely kittened

You know it’s a problem when Phantaram says he thinks Moa should be removed from the game even though he plays mesmer. What does it say about the skill when The Lord Helseth said the only thing keeping mesmer in the meta after the chronobunker nerf was moa.

We need proper fixes lol. This is a legit issue, not that stupid “omg reduce chill to 33% effectiveness”

The shout heal is considered when there are no condi mesmers or necros on the other team which is really rare these days.

Complaining about minions lmao, arguably the least impactful thing about necros. And you mentioned deathnova LOL ITS WORTHLESS ANY MM SPEC IS WORTHLESS ITS SO EASY TO KILL.

Your tears are delicious.

This is the Guild Wars 2 community. It’s PvP is poisoned with PvErs and nobody wants to take advice from a really good player.this is advice for solo q, he’s not even talking about tournament play! Anyone who doubts the advice he outlined in his stream would be crazy to do so, he made very good points and it is really saddening to see how stubborn people are, to the point of them not listening to a pro player. These are the same people who go on 22 loss streaks, double dodge, don’t count dodges, rotate into lossed fights, don’t cleave, don’t focus the same target, spams their skills etc.

Maybe start copying all these fps games with their facts or tips during loading screen.

Something like “Disengage from a fight when you know it is lost or unfavourable” or something along the lines of that.

Might help the low divisions and new players alike.

If all the better than average players progress and the less than average are left behindbat the start of the season doesn’t that mean the less than average willbface the new players and each other? Then its only a matter of them increasing there skill level by watching top tier streams or tournaments in order to get better? So this matchmaking actually makes sense then..

I will always choose reaper shroud over Deathshroud as long as reapershroud 3 gives pulsing stab.

They’re fine.

15 chars

Arguably the most ignorant suggestion made on these forums. Leave scrapper alone LMAO. And you want to nerf corrupt boon to 45 sec CD? It was 40 second CD pre-patch. Are you out of your kittening mind? No, you just don’t understand a thing about this game.

Yes, everyone complaining on these forums are terrible. The start of the PvP season has been nothing but wins by blowouts for me.

I have solo q’d about 16 matches into PvP season 2 and I have won every single one by a blowout. The amount of people on these forums who are complaining at the start of the season are absolutely terrible because I am getting paired with nothing but terrible teammates and opponents. Carrying the team is easy when your opponents are double capping points and ignoring far completely (while staggered from deaths). It’s really funny to actually see how many bad players are on these forums. It’s really hard to tell when I will actually start losing.

jebro.6370:

For once, I will actually defend my own camera work on this occasion.

I never do if I see a post like this (which rarely happens) because its all personal opinion, other than if I have blatantly missed something, which happens & I wont deny that.

When using the camera, and being a player/viewer, many want to see the PoV of their fave player, they want to see abilities used in different situations, yes that happens, but it cant happen throughout the entire game. The game has many different aspects to cover & also a story to set the scene, we need the general overlook which imo was explained through each game yesterday.
Cap points
Kills
Downs
Respawns
Rotations
buffs
etc

With a new META also brings new work to the camera in terms of how the caster approaches it, the pace has increased, fights are back in ‘roads’ so its a matter of adjusting which I was fairly happy with.

Complaints about camera were few and far between as I re-watched the cast and the chat, so I feel this is more of a personal aspect for yourself.

As someone said above, there were issues here and there which I realise and I do go back and watch my casts to improve that work on the next show. I appreciate feedback, but constructive.

It’s not the cameramans fault my apologies, its this games fault.

Seriously?

Why the kitten are you putting over half a million dollars into esports if you can’t even put on a kittening show correctly. This could have easily been forseen the day before with some test.

Issues: shoutcaster voices de sync with footage, cameraman was absolutey terrible

In conclusion:

Very unenjoyable stream yet again. I’m glad the chronobunker is gone, that made it less boring but the camera angles were kitten yet again. Can we please get someone competent to control the camera? I honestly don’t give a kitten about watching from the sidelines, what we really want is to see everyone’s skillbars. How the hell are we supposed to dictate what skills are on cooldown or if someone is in trouble or if someone made a clutch play with a skill if we can’t see it first hand. I dont care if someone gets downed i want to see how the person got downed!!! There are just too many animations in this game to not watch from players PoV. Horrible, absolutely horrible stream, get your kittening kitten together for season 2 you kittenm monkeys.

I don’t know what to call it but if you really want us to watch from the “sidelines” and not the player PoV, you need to put all 3 capture points up on the screen so we can at least see all the fights happening and somehow incorporate footage for roads to be seen. I don’t know how you’re going to do it but it needs to be better for season 2. Seriously get at least one thing right anet.

That strength soldier build on metabattle was never a viable build. Anything uses axe is pretty much terrible for PvP. The only reason it was on metabattle is because noscoc used it once in a tournament, and this was when chill damage didn’t receive its buff and blighters boon didn’t receive its nerf. People were still figuring builds out at the time but because he used it, it was put on there. It’s a bad build, especially with blighters boon nerf.

Note: I didn’t click the link, I just remember the strength soldier build on metabattle.

Hahaha

/15chars

I don’t really know what you’re asking but I do know that they are implementing it due to how horrendously boring season 1 of pro league was. Double mesmer and double rev was very plain to watch and when anet kittens up and creates a God tier build like chronobunker, stacking the class becomes way too powerful and resulted in easy carrying teammates in ranked, and a very boring pro league.

I don’t usually agree with OPN but yes, bring the bunker gaurd back.

ErazorZ.5209:

Jelzouki.4128:

Dh, druid, thief, rev, mes all have potential to beat necro kittening stop crying.

What do you think necros did when there were 2 diamond skin eles on the other team??? Yeah that’s what I kittening thought.

Im sorry, but asfar as ive read in this thread necros where still able to beat cele ele. This is currently asfar as to my knowledge not possible in its current scenario.

And what you are trying to advocate here is that you’d preffer an imbalance just to ‘get back’ at ele for the time DS was meta. Thats not what balance is about. So please try to either formulate an argument or refrain from posting here again. Its not wanted.

No. What I’m trying to do is show you how to deal with your problems. You’re whining that two necros on the other team is bad news for you, well you’ve got to play around them or multiclass or change your build just like us necros did before diamond skin nerf. I advocate balance, but I don’t advocate ignorance.

Dh, druid, thief, rev, mes all have potential to beat necro kittening stop crying.

What do you think necros did when there were 2 diamond skin eles on the other team??? Yeah that’s what I kittening thought.

ronpierce.2760:

For what?

If for PVP, honestly I suggest trying: (Mercenary’s ammy, wasn’t in the builder when i made the build.)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAoYWnMbClbid2AebC0biliBLeHOETiUPhpwtKKA8tKAA-TpxFwAHOBAAeAAC3fIxhAoZZgCHBAA

People have suggested rather large changes to the build without giving it a go, but I say just try it. I’ve yet to have more success with other variations yet. Plus its fun being able to out-sustain Scrappers and being able to kill teefs these days.

If you couldn’t kill a thief on condi necro before, there’s no hope for you now…

Why tf are we getting condi related buffs??? I just don’t understand why they didn’t fix or greatsword, axe, and focus issues but instead buff our scepter and corruption’s even though it was already in a good spot? Since bunker mesmer and diamond skin are being nerfed I believe we will in a much better position that we are now, but these buffs are unnecessary and will get us nerfed harder down the line. Seriously, does anyone at anet even kittening play necromancer in PvP????

brannigan.9831:

Jelzouki.4128:

lloydst.6985:

Ginaz.3206:

Nice tears by you in team chat.

Could easily have relogged.

That would have gotten him dishonor though

No it wouldn’t have. If you log back into the match you don’t receive dishonour. Probably because there is a grace period or something. I’ve done it many times.

It’s still bad and not obvious because they actually threaten you when try to do it. Yes, you can log out with no dishonor but before you do it you still get a note threatening you with dishonor lol. Stop defending A-net for there bullkitten.

How tf am I defending anet? Get your facts right.

lloydst.6985:

Ginaz.3206:

Nice tears by you in team chat.

Could easily have relogged.

That would have gotten him dishonor though

No it wouldn’t have. If you log back into the match you don’t receive dishonour. Probably because there is a grace period or something. I’ve done it many times.

Coolguy.8702:

And nerf it down to 33%, its so kittening broken and reaper takes it to another lvl…

After 3 years chill is suddenly a problem so we should nerf it for all classes? An eye for an eye does not justify nerfs. Necromancers always had a lot of sources of chill, now it just does damage. If you want to nerf it, fine. Make it a condition that you can’t cleanse, or strip. Have fun with that.

What bothers me the most about this thread is that the OP specifically thinks the cooldown increase needs to be nerfed, which has clearly not been a problem for 3 years, but now that alacrity is nerfed, chill must be nerfed. Your mesmer tears are delicious.

Nova Stiker.8396:

To match Alacity? Lets be honest, no one will be able to 1v1 a Reaper as long as ALL of their skills take over twice as long to recharge at all times.

Over twice as long? I think your math is off…..

So I guess after 3 years chill is all of a sudden overpowered? The fact that your claim is only supported by the Alacrity nerf makes you sound ridiculous. Just because something is nerfed, doesn’t justify another nerf, because “an eye for an eye”.

Necromancers had a lot of chill to begin with, reaper gave us 3 new sources of it, 2 of which are really easy to avoid.

I don’t understand why the necromancer is getting condi buffs if the bunker meta is being nerfed? In my opinion condi necro is in a good state right now, do not buff them or we will be nerfed hard down the road. You need to buff other things on necro like greatsword auto attack, axe auto attack, focus #4, spectral grasp, spectral wall, Deathshroud. Jeez what are you doing making necros godly when the bunker meta is getting nerfed?? I can already kill a bunker mesmer on poisonmancer

+1 anet needs to focus on buffing axe autoattack, greatsword auto attack, fix focus #4 so it actually lands without having to be directly in line of walk, same fix to happen to spectral grasp, make deathshroud more viable there are literally so many things they can do to necro, but what they are doing is setting us up for failure to get nerfed down the road and be made unviable again.

Ithilwen.1529:

Having someone check reports costs money. That seems to be the main issue. Players know that unless you use the “n” word or something along that line in the pvp lobby, ANET doesn’t care what you do.

Money is not the issue, they make plenty of it.

PowerBottom.5796:

do you also open threads when you had a nice breakfast or what?

Says the guy who promotes his SoundCloud on Guild Wars 2 forums. It’s PvP related, so there is no reason for this to not be in the PvP discussion forum.

Morwath.9817:

Jelzouki.4128:

Straight from Galie Gray:

“Our next major balance update will be released at the end of January, and after the new year we plan on sharing the high-level details of those changes, giving you an opportunity to provide feedback to our design team.”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Upcoming-Balance-Changes-Week-of-December-14-2015

Forum warriors, silence.

If bolded part wasn’t true, then why you believe the others are true?

We aren’t even 1 week into 2016, kittening relax. They didn’t specify when after the new year.