Guild Wars 2

lol its the imaginary decay. I didnt play for a week/2 on NA solo q. won 1 round. Went up 60 places to 9th. lol so broken

GJ man :P

Jin

lost 2 rounds… went up 12,300 ranks. Glad this still exists. :P

Alright then.

/15 char

lol don’t complain about the weird match ups yet. Its barely been out 1 day. For that matter if MMR was reset ( I haven’t bothered to read the post) then it should take like a week to calm down and even stuff out.

Chill.

Ever fought a warrior on the skyhammer with fear me? AOE unblockable instant cast 0 animation fear. thats lasts 3s. lol putrid explosion isn’t a priority to fix man.

lol yes healing turret is very strong. but rangers have a 10s waterfield( or whatever I didn’t care about ranger patch notes). Are you honestly complaining about our 2s engi field? Get over it.

Engi’s are in a good spot and the vigor nerf was needed. It will happen. Stop your complaining. There are far more important things to fix than engi’s atm. ( well the engi bugs/rng would b nice to fix)

Google (ak) thief build can hit 15k backstabs. It isn’t hard. It does exist. It also has like 0 utility,0 survival. Builds exist for every purpose.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

JinDaVikk.7291:

ok listen up cause most of this thread is a lie.

Engi does have perma vigor/swiftness.
Regen is not permanent in every build! We can get perma regen through dwyana runes. This hurts mosts builds though.
Protection isn’t permanent. We have nearly permanent protection if we are being CC’d repeatedly. We also have 3s every 20s if we trait for it.
Elixir B trait is 90s icd.

HGH engi has perma might, swiftness,vigor. Only access to protection is from RNG on the heal. 1/3 chance. If they get on CC means they have higher cd’s or no condi removal.

Engis aren’t god mode but we do have nice access to boons. Quit your complaining and get your facts right.

TLDR:
Elixir b= fury swiftness might retal for 10s (13 for boon duration). 32s cd when traited.
elixir h= RNG 1/3 prot, vigor,regen(10s prot is 5s). 20s cd when traited.
protection inject=3s prot on 5s cd if cc’d.
on critical hit 3s prot 20scd.
perma vigor/swift (being nerfed dec 10th)

So with your own words;
perma vigor/swiftness
perma regen on some builds
perma protection if getting stunned/cc’ed
access to high up time might

I never said they were god mode. I did say I can respect good play rewarding players being able to pull back from near defeat.

I did say are the boons getting out of control?..look at what you’ve just said about them..seriously, look at the statics you’ve just stated.

The point being made here is that i respect there is no passive and every boon must be activated. But as stated by others, running in circles dropping nades/bombs with 98% regen/ 50% swiftness/100% vigor/ 40% might/ with activated protection on CC/30% retail/30% fury…it may not be god mode, but perhaps Jesus mode.

Please state any other profession that can stack this many boons for these duration’s and rinse-repeat them with as many low cool downs.

it is one thing to call others liars, and then go and give facts about how many boons they can keep at near 100% up time.

You didn’t seem to read mine correctly let me verify it… you cant get all of that on 1 build. Those are the POSSIBILITIES. If you want to go full boon “jesus” mode come back and tell me how engi’s do any damage at all.

TLDR:
Protection/might stacking don’t come on same build.
Engi always has vigor/swift and its being nerfed.
the other boons are 1/3 uptime or RNG.
Regen comes from heal turret. Anything else is hurting build due to changes in runes. (a lot of people can get nice regen from runes)

ok listen up cause most of this thread is a lie.

Engi does have perma vigor/swiftness.
Regen is not permanent in every build! We can get perma regen through dwyana runes. This hurts mosts builds though.
Protection isn’t permanent. We have nearly permanent protection if we are being CC’d repeatedly. We also have 3s every 20s if we trait for it.
Elixir B trait is 90s icd.

HGH engi has perma might, swiftness,vigor. Only access to protection is from RNG on the heal. 1/3 chance. If they get on CC means they have higher cd’s or no condi removal.

Engis aren’t god mode but we do have nice access to boons. Quit your complaining and get your facts right.

TLDR:
Elixir b= fury swiftness might retal for 10s (13 for boon duration). 32s cd when traited.
elixir h= RNG 1/3 prot, vigor,regen(10s prot is 5s). 20s cd when traited.
protection inject=3s prot on 5s cd if cc’d.
on critical hit 3s prot 20scd.
perma vigor/swift (being nerfed dec 10th)

me and aeroxe are aiming for a top tier serious play as much as possible team. NA. Mail me in game for details/try outs.

Don’t bother unless you know you are a top player. We aren’t interested in decent players.

I cant make it thanksgiving > videogames

No. when you get teh stacked team and win every solo q kinda ruins it for everyone else.

This just adds to the issue that currently exists.

inb4 the argument: “once matchmaking is fixed”

their isn’t very many people in q at once. Stacked teams will occur. Skyhammer farmers exists. Not everyone is great at this game. Once a stacked team gets created they will destroy any hope for the next solo q guys.

PS we don’t have the solo q population to even bother considering changing this.

lol rushing far point isn’t some crazy science.

requirements to rush far :

your home guy knows to head mid the second home is capped ( so mid isn’t 4v3)
you can win your 1v1 95+ percent of the time.
you can disengage every time.
it doesn’t take 2 minutes to win the 1v1.
you don’t let them have the cap.
you don’t 1v1 assault the point if they capped it.

I do it quite fine. But this is solo q man you can’t take it serious.

Wintel I have 3k hours on engi kit swapping.

Geomancy is 9s icd. Its also PtBlAoe. Fire is ranged

month without a mouse! :’(

PSA to all engi’s in pvp.

Your mouse is in danger

This morning my mouse has officially 2 buttons broken from kit swapping…..

You’ve been warned.

Jin

The Jindavikk engi

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-VRw;2cPVg0f6V1Fx0;9;4T;0T924A;40585;0Xw;4hoHAhoHA2Vu

Jin here I’m streaming as often as I can on EU and NA for team q’s on both!

Plz support the stream as much as possible guys!

Its a great method btw in teaching/learning about pvp if your looking for help/questions look no further!

Engi ftw.

sorrow srsly quit your kitten kittening about this. This is like the 3rd post I’ve seen from you involving this trait.

Yes its not a good mechanic for a trait.
No its not OP
Yes better suggestions/alternatives have been mentioned.
No changes to it will not occur in next half a year if ever.

GET OVER IT.

Lol yup. They went from never used to so over the top. I’d hate to see the new ele once they are OP again. (several months down the line)

^^ The point I was trying to make was in solo q without communication/coordination it is a hell of a lot harder to beat a 4 warrior comp. Thus the warrior is better than every other profession becuz atm they are.

Just so your aware it was the top 100 all playing warriors vs some 50-250 range on leaderboards. Good players but warriors just made it ridiculous.

Well last night we rolled a 4 warrior 1 necro on solo q 3 times in a row with the same people… not sync just lack of people playing.

Won every time. Even with me playing bad lol ( I was trolling around)

Sigh I wonder when warriors won’t be better than every other profession.

lol such a joke.

lol moa is useless except to transform a lich/plague/rampage. If you have issues being moa’d thats a L2p issue.

The devs do not have the track record to convince anyone we should continue to trust their balance choices.

^^ Don’t forget the top 2 teams had a dc so 4v5’s lost them the matches.

Never mind seems bug for 1st match after patch didn’t give anyone any Halloween crap.

Sorrow usually I don’t post on condi hate posts but honestly your partially wrong here….

Engi maintain 6-9 bleed stacks? Um.. have you seen the necro auto attack? Atleast with engi bleed nade is the closest thing to a skill shot in the game… As for the burn….If you remove the engi burn proc you know what will happen?

Shaman (settlers) ammy bunker engis with bombs. We will still have the same burning ( may take flamethrower) and we will be harder to kill.

Don’t complain about engi’s and condition damage. Start at the problem of cripple/chill/immobilize/vuln/etc making it hard to remove the burn/poison stacks.
This would cause other issues as A-net has buffed condition removal everywhere.

This thread isn’t helping anyone.

Amaterasu.6280:

The problem is that Anet likes to makes it seem like they are doing a lot by putting out these “big changes” patches. I don’t understand why the priorities always seem to be on the most useless fixes, and not addressing the most important issues head-on. It happens all the time. Previously, you would see a “big balance patch” and when you read the list of changes, 90% of it are tool-tip fixes. How exactly is fixing tool-tips going to affect gameplay? I’m not going to go “OMG, THE RADIUS WAS WRONG THIS WHOLE TIME??? NO WONDER I KEEP LOSING!”

It almost seems like the staff think that pvpers don’t test their skills/traits enough to realize that a tool-tip is working as intended or not. Regardless, tool-tip changes are not going to all of a sudden fix imbalances…in fact it only highlights them.

I don’t think I speak for myself when I say that the whole trait description add-on was totally unnecessary. It’s much more of a perk to add on AFTER the meta is in a good place. Just because we have descriptions of traits now, it doesn’t make them anymore used than before. Veterans would still be using the same traits, and no description is going to make a light bulb go off in their head.

Claiming that these patches are big balance changes is just nonsense. I’m sure a lot of players would have wanted the devs to spend their time working on things that are actually important, than to work on trivial systems such as trait descriptions.

I just don’t understand how their prioritizing works, and who agrees to those priorities…do they just sit down and go “Hey, I think a trait description add-on would be a total game changer!!! Pvpers would love it!! Let us do that before serious balances and better reward systems.”

It seems so silly to me. When I see “big balance patches” like these, I just think that they don’t have the resources to put out the necessary changes, so they just start doing the things that don’t really matter so that it seems like a lot was done. I believe true pvpers would rather wait for a quality balance patch than to see a patch like this after months of horrible Meta play.

I agree with you but the other side to the story is this helps new players get into pvp faster, and learn. Sadly this shouldn’t be needed as we all learned the hard way by testing repeatedly. Or for the lazy/dumb reading the wiki.

1: QOL (leaderboards fixes,brainless builds, not releasing broken crap, matchmaking fixes,rewards,etc)
2: balance
3: teaching new players how to play.

Maybe not implement it that specific way but honestly being out comp’d in solo q is just… sigh….

But we don’t have the pvp population to limit professions/players in any way. Look at how bad matchmaking is, slow q times are, then add in a new limiter…. q’s would take 30 minutes…

+1 to sens full support for you bro.

Thelonious Twig

As an engi I am glad for the re-apply making my condi removal removing immobile but that isnt in every situation. The idea/change was still stupid.

Top Tier:
necro
warrior (the bunker is kittened survivalability)

middle tier:
guard
engi
ranger
thief (s/d only)

Low tier:
mesmer

Unsure: (I have only fought 1 staff ele so far he did fine as a support)
Ele

(anet only unless they previously said and I am un-aware. Plz post source for information)

Can we get a ^^ for matchmaking fixes?
Standarized size pvp models?
reward system overhaul?
new game modes?
Leaderboard fixes?

It doesnt have to be exact but a basic goal would be nice to know.

Don’t forget the skyhammer fun!

MLG was a joke the 2 top teams had dc’s causing them to lose. You cant use MLG as a example.

s/d thief can evade 2 times then trait refills enough for a 3rd. Signet of agility = 3 more dodges. shortbow 3 or sword 3 = evades on spam.

I’ve bunked 1v3 for 20+ seconds without taking a single hit on point. Not hard to do with s/d….

Also don’t forget double s/d with energy sigils. even more dodge…

Incurafy man s/d thieves can evade spam all day.

Don’t forget 20k chaos storms!

Mesmer op :P

I am sure everyone has had idiots in solo q and I’ve seen quite a few myself but this take the cake….
this is qq but it is understandable qq….

started out getting wiped 0-150.
They had a dc.
We came back 400-250
Then we got a dc and theirs came back… (karma I hate you…)
This is temple of silent storm… They got top buff and triple capped us at 495-400.
heres the bad part…

3 people on other team were down. For nearly 20 seconds NO ONE FROM MY TEAM attempted to stomp any of them. They got resses from 1 guy. (4v3 at bottom)

really? NO ONE even attempted the stomp that would of won us the game… but no they NEVER even attempted. We lost 500-495. I have lost any hope for people’s intelligence in this game.

this happens every single patch. lol.

um troll?

necros have multiple defenses against roots…. sigh.

I did that for the same reason your thinking of and it was easily an amazing decision.
NA pvp sucks.

Any who I did it by deleting all my characters to xfer for free. If you do it my way you lose everything except whats in your bank, wallet, and your pvp glory rank, pvp locker.

It was so worth it. In my experience eastern time(usa) EU prime time was 9 am to about 5 pm. And still 3-5x the NA population.
Also seems to be fewer idiots in EU than NA along with much higher skill levels.

Team q is also multiple different teams usually not the same one repeatedly like NA.

Do we freeze everything or do we throw everyone back into their team spawns and keep the gates locked?

A: Freeze everything but keep screen blanked out. This prevents studying the current fights. Give a 10 second + noise to say fight will resume.

Do we add a time window for how long a game can remain paused?

A: I would say maximum of 2-3 minutes. This will help the dc’rs but won’t do much about complete internet loss. That is a entirely different problem/solution.

Tournaments are often run on a schedule, do we keep the game clock running while the game is paused so the game will still end around the same time?

A: No. Just limit amount of pauses per tournament to 1 per team. major tournaments could be left up to the shoutcasters.

If the player comes back, do we just resume the action or do we restart the match?

A: resume action. See first question. You may want to reset fights/ BUT keep players health pools/cds/downed etc in same spot.

For example: someone dcs.
Pause. Screen blanked out. Guy returns. 10s + noise =
Everything is returned exactly the way it was. The guy who dc’d is returned to where he was located originally too. If a sub is used he returns to spawn but is prevented from entering a fight for 10-15 seconds. (daze?) This prevent abuse for quick teleport to home point.

What do we do when we have to give up on waiting for the player to reconnect?

A: substitutes start at the gate. The disconnect isn’t punished but isn’t rewarded.
Possible trolls/people taking advantage but I have no solution other than limiting to 1 dc per team.

How do we handle trolls that disconnect on purpose?

A: BAN. serious punishment to prevent. Repetitive troll = perma ban. Obviously must have a fool proof way to identifying them. (not sure if possible)

Do we count a disconnect as part of dishonor?

A:Possible but dishonored is a joke it needs to be far more severe.

Do we disable progression and rewards for a game that doesn’t finish because of a disconnect?

A:If subs were implemented no but major tournaments need some sort of rules to go along with subs/rewards.

Do custom arena owners want to be able to pause through a command?

A: I don’t own one but custom arena matches are not for rewards. But adding this feature could be on the list of things to do.

Any comments?

I enjoy the (finally) more dev responses being posted.

But what I would love to see is explanations.

For example:

patch notes come out… Explain why what specific changes were made and why time was spent doing them. Even if its short and simple it’s better than the community guessing.

Alot of people don’t run the correct warrior build.

The banner warriors just stay alive. They provide little support for teams comapred to guardians.

The hammer/longbow or mace shield on the other hand is stupid op.

3350 armor 2k power 85 crit chance (during a stun) blocks condi immunity multiple stabilities and condi cleanse on less than a 7s cd. SHould I also mention the auto attacks are minimum 2k?

This needs to happen or at the very minimum a response from dev.

As for the likelyhood of this happening is near 0.

They have had 3 cough official cough tournaments each of which was a joke.

At this point you’d think they were aware of how little anyone cares.

This is one of the many QOL improvements we could use..

dev response plz..

/bump