Guild Wars 2

Must say the reason Yak’s is getting whipped is a 2 fold problem

1. DB has a better non US peak presence than them. WvW winning is directly correlated to off peak coverage….

2. Ebay isn’t here to fight Mag for you. Let’s face it the fact that Ebay and Mag fought eachother while leaving you alone basically set it up for an easy victory. With DB here you can’t get on the upside of the 2v1 that constantly occurred.

There are guardian builds that wreak thieves. I’ve beaten it with a specific build, but quite frankly its not a very viable WvW build.

I find it funny people scream nerf thieves when there are professions out there that put any thief build to shame.

sahand.9138:

So i just got into wvw

I stopped reading after that.

l2p issue here

Atlantiscalz.8205:

I have 0 issue’s putting them down on my Gard

There are builds for every class that a WvW built thief can not beat.

Bunzy.8674:

In large group fights thieves tend to struggle quite a bit, so if you run smaller groups and often take on larger groups there is one thing a thief excels at:

stomping people
ressing people

that should be the thiefs sole purpose.

A good thief will be finishing targets off or in the middle of their group sowing confusion and panick.

My guild was running 5 and we came across a small zerg of players (15-20) I was the only thief and basically I was seperate from the rest in the enemies back lines.

It works wonders since people tend to panick when they start dying on both sides.

Eventually tho the zerg doubled or more and wiped us…..we dropped a kitten ton of em and I was the only one to live

I enjoyed this thread.

I’m going to log on my thief and kill everyone now. I’ll kill w/ impunity and kill every class by just pressing 2 buttons……

Anatolian Turk.4057:

The latest score captured few minutes ago.

good to see its close…..

I hate lopsided matches

Like Forty Seven Ninjas.6982:

Jinks.2057:

Gotta keep this thread in the front page

So let’s shift this discussion to a different gear shall we?

Have any of u fellas ran into players this week who have flat out impressed you?

I’d say I ran into 1 or 2 backstab thieves that really had their kitten together. I was on my p/d thief and usually I dont have any issues with them, but bravo to whichever EB backstab thieves I fought – they were some enjoyable battles. (I’m a hooded p/d thief from Darkhaven) I’ll try to remember the guild tags and locations next time for a better shout-out.

Ah ya i try to remember guild tags, but its hard in all the commotion unless you spiking them. Ran into one up leveled mesmer the other day who played very well. Must say I had to give em props even though I took it easy on him.

The guardian class can be built to be absolutely insanely ridiculous.

I’ve only been successful killing that class in a non WvW build when my elite is up.

Heck d/d elementalists drop fast

Gotta keep this thread in the front page

So let’s shift this discussion to a different gear shall we?

Have any of u fellas ran into players this week who have flat out impressed you?

Scholar’s gives you the most damage on BS builds.

If you want glass its the best damage.

Lalnuir.4957:

Elthuzar.9478:

Mobility or just flat out speed? The fact that infiltrators arrow is a teleport while burning speed and ride the lightning go in a straight line give thieves a huge edge in mobility.

For straight up speed they are fairly even in my experience.

They are not even. Ele >>> Thief in mobility

The only place thief trumps Ele in mobility would be in sPvP teleporting up ledges….but this is WvW where this doesn’t happen.

I must give credit to DH/BP.

On average they have more skill than any Yakk a hole I’ve ever fought.

Here’s to there always being more skill in the non zerg servers/lower tiers

/salute.

I have enjoyed reading this thread immensely.

Thieves are strong in WvW vs the masses. Meaning most people are not good….they just think they are. There are people who are good…and know how to kill thieves in droves or come to a stalemate.

I’ve watched certain Guardian, Warrior, Ele, Mesmer and YES ranger builds do things that a thief could only dream of doing. They also have zero chance to die to a BS thief 1v1.

This thread should be locked for trolling b/c that is all the OP did to begin with.

ps. I loved the 13k HP full defense build that one poster was running ROFLMAO! I loved the horrible thief vidoes people have posted showing exactly how BAD yak players are….more skill less zerg’n to that server please.

This thread has made my day

I must say reading these types of posts make logging onto my thief THAT much more enjoyable.

Anyways you need a new build. PvE’n to lvl 80 and getting exotics is not enough. You need to consider what build/gear you are running before honestly making true judgements on WvW.

I’ve seen/fought some engineers who survive 15K-20K BS combo’s, and they’ve turned around and burned me down FAST.

This issue is the normal response players have after playing GW2 when previous experience is nothing but the coddling from all the other MMO’s

This was a case of the thief totally out playing you, but being unable to kill your class.

I have a build for guardians….it melts them, but its not feasible for WvW unfortuantely

Dinas Dragonbane.2978:

Crazy fights in DH borderlands today, this week might have the most WvW activity from me in weeks! Lots of fun already, even though it was extremely hectic for us.

Oh and Ehmry Bay…you guys apparently love to focus Commanders, I had a few incidents that were just a bit peculiar. It’s not very often when 4 enemies run straight through 3 other people(not even attacking them in passing) and proceed to punch my lights out. Fun stuff :P

Why wouldn’t you focus a Commander down?

At your garrison there was Mesmer who was just too tasty to pass up.

Who cares?

Never going to happen

Swrd is nice, and quite frankly great against most of those annoying Guard/Ele/Warrior builds out there. Problem is WvW is not a wide wonderful world of 1v1.

WvW is 1vZerg. Dagger gives you the burst required to get a kill in the middle of 50+ enemies. I stopped running a full burst build, and adapted it to a more WvW friendly build. Some of the duelers who run pure sPvP builds out in WvW you can’t kill regardless how much more skill you have than they do…but they aren’t taking on as many players as I do

Well unless they are Ele’s……those kitteners need a nerf.

Bunzy.8674:

Jinks.2057:

The offer that I made Bunzy applies to the rest of the people who are having trouble w/ thieves.

PM me or post here what your problems are….I will help you out and make you see only tears from thieves.

Who said I am having trouble with thieves? o.o
Its one thief who can do this, if you can do this I could use your help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Zw8vNJVvg

Yes I can do that.

Welcome HIRE to EBay

Hrmm this might spell the end of my Mag Killing Spree….kinda sad really….

O wait AoN will just xfer to our next opponents so I’ll continue to stomp their GM in the middle of their group!

Bunzy.8674:

Nut.4713:

Jinks.2057:

Can we fight some yakkies that use skill instead of zerg?

Good lord its like ya’ll turning into CD.

Sure, but you have to leave your zerg to find our roamers.

Yaks doesn’t have any roamers that are worthy of the title, you won’t find skilled yakkies because they don’t exist.

This

Funny thing is OG hasn’t done kitten to impress me either.

Human female I think

Can we fight some yakkies that use skill instead of zerg?

Good lord its like ya’ll turning into CD.

The offer that I made Bunzy applies to the rest of the people who are having trouble w/ thieves.

PM me or post here what your problems are….I will help you out and make you see only tears from thieves.

Bunzy.8674:

skupuz.6940:

“Thief

Thieves are the masters of mobility, stealth and high single target damage. They can be very fragile if you counter their stealth with area of effects or large stacks of conditions, but they trade this fragility in order to have some of the highest burst damage in the game. They are able to help allies through traps, venoms and the mobility to flank most encounters."

The answer is AoE and conditions (not just 1 or 2 but large stacks of it). There you go guys, now stop QQing and start AoEing! Remember to put as much conditions as you can on the thief. It’s not like they can remove bleeding, burning, and poison by just stealthing or remove conditions while in stealth. Oh wait…wtf…. /facepalm

Apparently the new plan is to keep buffing thieves every patch. I mean they obviously don’t listen to the community and just do their own thing anyways.

You play a D/D Ele….really shouldn’t be complaining about dying to thieves

Maybe you have a serious l2p issue that I can help you with? Lemme know what ya having the most trouble w/ and I’ll see if I can help ya

Lotta elemetalists defending their OPness

And you fellas complain about thieves ROFLMAO

welp I wanna say thx to the LoS fellas for the riveting chat we had after our fight.

Beer+Killing+Trolling=Good morning I must say.

Thanks.

O and I want to see that ranger build so maybe I can tweak it.

I’ll take the 10 second CD on stealth but I’ll need something in return.

1. When a thief stealths….its Perma until you attack
2. All alpha stealth strikes receive damage boost of 50%

I’ll take it.

Ekove.4586:

Bunzy.8674:

You already have more coverage then both the servers you are versing at the moment and you need more.. interesting.

We’ve been in tier 3 for 4 weeks against much larger servers, we are not recruiting to win in T4 which we have already proven we can do. We dont even have significantly different populations that servers we are fighting right now. Maybe you should see t3 and fight TC and then you’ll see what outmanned really means.

Either way, keep this on topic. I am one of the people who have been looking for a good server for the longest time, and I have settled on YB because it has a friendly community that never gives up and never gives an easy win. YB has been moving up in ranks since I joined it until we hit t3 and faced TC which outnumbers us big time. Other than that, there’s no server that YB has fought that we have not beaten (Granted we have lost to CD and FA just like we also beat them).

If you want to join a highly organized competitive friendly server that is not “full”, then I don’t think many servers would give a better opportunity than YB.

Dude you guys have the numbers to flip Eternal and most of the other BLs in the wee hours of the morning.

I logged off at 0400 this morning after being a part of the Ebayers repeatedly whipping the Yak zerg.

The numbers you had on at that time of day was stupid…..

I’ve seen OG running around….sux they usually try to duel me 5-10 v 1

Find em solo its a different story though, but I will say they know how to res up their fallen comrade when you drop their kitten in the middle of their group though.

/shrug

And yes most of DAoCers prefer not to zerg it up. Lots solo/small man and try to perfect their skills. That being said there will ALWAYS be cheesy group/class set ups in a class based MMO. Its just the nature of the beast.

ps. No sPvP/tPvP is not the be all end all for PvP talent.

Sifu.6527:

Jinks.2057:

They live the burst they’ll run as far as they can. Last one i just fought literally blew all his get aways. Ran past my ability to render him.

Bad players succeed on D/D eles..

The irony in this comment…

Running away for cool downs to come back up to try again. Hm…sounds familiar.

but but thieves are the most mobile…you can’t out run a thief….

Upon the release of the game people were kittening that eles were the weakest class in the game. Then lo and behold someone figured out how to play them, and now we got the d/d eles running around.

shagworth.5017:

Thanks for the party in your keep this morning Ehmry! I don’t know why you guys were so hostile..we just wanted to hang out.

Gratz on taking a keep in the early morning in the middle of a work week.

kudos

They live the burst they’ll run as far as they can. Last one i just fought literally blew all his get aways. Ran past my ability to render him.

Bad players succeed on D/D eles..

Relentliss.2170:

I only ever seen a few TC thieves that were good. They had some nasty squads of theives. That was it.

Tbh I think they were just so complacent with their zerg size they had not improved in a while. When they go up to T2 they will improve on an individual and team level. Atm they are lacking challenge.

I am enjoying seeing Yaks players employ what they have learned from FA and TC in this match up. Our improvements are really showing.

All i’ve seen is zerg….dunno wtf you looking at.

I hate the new system.

Please revert to the original until you completely remove culling.

thx

Looks like ima have to buy 2 pistols

If they actually make it good that is.

Do ya ever see just 5 yakkies?

I swear 40 deep is the lowest ya go….

GF’s btw and Mag home zerg was funny. Forget teh skill just go wit numbers!

saiyr.3071:

I’ll just leave this here.

Lawlz.

Got minimal time in today.

Must say while the non peak presence are limited this week you can see the casual area of EB coming out to play.

You didn’t die.

You successfully got your Bulls Charge and I’m willing to bet hit Haste/HB then collected your win.

Daggerstorm is just for zerg busting.

The other elites have their uses w/ Basilisk Fang being the most used by myself….most WvW players are morons and refuse to equip a stun breaker

Also its up a heck of a lot faster than DS and TG.

There is a HUGE problem with thieves is people complain rather than learn to play.

Sorry thieves are not OP. Their mobility isn’t the best in the game. Their burst damage isn’t the best in the game. The only thing they got going for them is the majority of WvW players are stupid.

End of story.

I must say on a whole CD is perhaps the worst server I’ve fought in terms of individual player skill.

You will get smashed next week due to not having a significant numbers advantage over your opponents.

Meh CD has their zerg on during the off time again.

Some good fights…..lots of zerg dodging……w/e

O and I forgot….the amount of AoN’n in CD has grew 10 fold over the past few days. Ya’ll need to go up a tier and get away from that.

saiyr.3071:

Jinks.2057:

To AoN before a stomp is to alt f4.

Master troll!!

Some of you really seem to hate guilds that transfer to Maguuma, it’s pretty amusing. If they transfer from your server then they’re deserters, if they transfer from servers you’ve fought before, they’re butthurt guilds that transferred here just so they could beat you. Give it a rest.

No its called not knowing who they were when on your server only to find out when you fight them they all AoN upon getting downed.

I wish they would xfer back to Ebay so I could call them out in chat

To AoN before a stomp is to alt f4.

W/L/D doesn’t matter.

Killing people and making them AoN before the stomp is where the funs is

grimmson.9154:

Jinks.2057:

sPvP is very unrealistic PvP.

…

WvW will always be the true measure of ones ability to PvP. There are no rules…regulations or any of the lame crap in sPvP. Its just pure uncensored PvP.

…

are you talking about 8vs8 spvp? you are right. do you mean 5vs5 or even paid tournys? oh holy cow you are wrong.
and to say “WvW will always be the true measure of ones ability to PvP” is kind of meh with pve skill mechanics and the importance of gear.

5v5 against WvW.

I’ll choose WvW every time.

You go out in WvW you don’t know who/what/when/how/etc/etc you are fighting. You could turn the corner and get blasted by 50 people or just find 1. You run down a path near your spawn point….you aren’t safe. Heck you’re “group” could be too far away to come bail out your seriously bad play, but not in tPvP.

Sorry but I don’t judge PvP on how well one performs in a very controlled environment w/ little to no surprises. I don’t judge it on an aspect of a game that limits the gameplay options due to small map size etc.

No I judge it not only on reaction times, knowing your char, but also how well you deal with the unknown. I judge how well you deal with 100,000 units of open space not the 10,000 units you get in structured. How do you deal with people that just show up and rain on your even numbered fight. Sorry but when the max number of players is strictly controlled it significantly detracts from the skill ceiling.

I’m not saying that the structured part of this game does not take skill. What I am saying is it takes LESS skill. Its significantly harder to organize 200 players vs 5, its significantly harder to take on 10 players than 5, and its certainly takes more skill to dominate in WvW than it does in any form of structured PvP.

/peace