Meh last week was okay, but when ya get the same match up 2 weeks in a row….it just kittening sucks.
Now if Anet would allow us to find out the names of the people we are fighting….that would make longer match ups better since you could develop rivalries.
Not the case in this game so here’s to another boring week of killing nameless bads
/cheers
At least we can compliment guilds that are good. I guess its a start haha.
Yes, but even lots of these guilds you face have hundreds of players. Most of those players deserve the amount of props you give to the practice squad of the football team who wins the superbowl.
Ya they somewhat contributed, but you prolly could have subbed in a chimp to perform as well as them on any given day w/out any drop off in performance.
You replace You hit XXX Invader for 1,281 damage! w/ You hit HotPockets for 1,281 damage and then you remove the anon factor. Players develop true dislikes for other players, solo communities arise, and single players are able to achieve status among all the servers.
Get that done and WvW will jump leaps and bounds.
due to the downed state.
I am so over killing people just to have them instant ressed back up. This is not fun not does it reward skillfull gameplay.
It needs serious changes or remove the whole concept from any type of pvp.
The irony is … it takes skills to res from the downed state. It takes some teamwork and tactics to res your comrade from downed state without killing yourselves. And it takes some skill play to take maximal advantage of enemy’s downed state. So, how can you say it does not reward skillful gameplay.
You probably just scratch the surface of WvW tactic play, so you may not appreciate the downed state and its use in WvW tactic. I give you just one example to bring across the point:
What do most player do when an enemy is in downed state? Finished him off immediately or spam spell to kill him off as fast as possible. Right?
For me, its situational. I will assess the situation first. Especially when enemy is downed in an area where it is a ‘choke’ point, I will not let him die immediately (I cannot control it if other comrades are spamming their spells on the downed enemies. That is why I say it is situational) if conditions permit. I will attack his downed hp down to 10% and I will let him res up to 50% and will start my attack to bring his downed hp down to 10% again. I will keep him alive so that his downed state is a bait for his comrade to come and rescue him. And if you have seige support in a choke area, you are going to finish off many clueless enemies who will rush in to res their friends. It takes some skill to position yourselves and to coordinate all these with your other comrades.
This post makes absolutely zero sense.
Downed state needs to be removed in WvW. Keep it in PvE and sPvP where its actually does something, but in WvW it does nothing but promote bad play.
Granted most people here by now have pulled off some sweet ress’s on their server mates, but lets face it….the idiot should have died as punishment for his stupid behavior.
sPvP is very unrealistic PvP.
I admit it takes skill and coordination, but quite frankly its kiddy PvP. Ya know wtf is coming each match. You know what each class is bringing to the table that month.
WvW is a bit different since each class generally has different builds due to the amount of space you have to work with. Yes I’ve seen the pure sPvP builds out in WvW and ya know what? They died w/ a bit of kiting after blowing their CDs.
WvW will always be the true measure of ones ability to PvP. There are no rules…regulations or any of the lame crap in sPvP. Its just pure uncensored PvP.
So the fact that the titles are easier to get is a no brainer.
Meh last week was okay, but when ya get the same match up 2 weeks in a row….it just kittening sucks.
Now if Anet would allow us to find out the names of the people we are fighting….that would make longer match ups better since you could develop rivalries.
Not the case in this game so here’s to another boring week of killing nameless bads
/cheers
Nerf PvPet
Nerf PvDoor
Nerf PvNPC
Let’s get back to PvP please
ugh… thos Spirit weapons are a nightmare.
While I’m really not a fan of all the AI in PvP I really don’t think there’s any chance of it disappearing while it’s so engrained in almost every class design. At the least though, I don’t think pets should contribute to effective limit (5) on attack skills. Majority of the abuse I’ve seen of stacking pets in groups is for this effect.
I run a thief w/ 4 pets up…..its stupid
Thats all sPvP really is anymore it seems…even guardians are doing it.
Sword #2 and shadowstep are some good hacks. I will now be reporting all thieves that use their skills appropriately.
Bummer for me I guess
Came here to post that question too. Is there also a reason EBay never cleans up their on BL before coming on Maguuma’s? Like, I don’t really care that you do, it’s just a head scratcher.
We did. We cleaned you, Maguuma, out of our borderlands. The attachment is the map color 1 hour prior to the poster’s picture below.
I mean christ guys, is it “get Maguuma week” or what?
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/26054/gw445.jpgWe had just taken Dreadfall Bay and peeled all of Crystal Desert from Maguuma Borderlands which allowed you to take back your entire home uncontested. We were hoping you’d take the hint and come to Crystal Desert Borderlands for revenge, but instead an [iLL] raid with 2 commanders and 50 players show up in Ehmry Bay Borderlands instead. Some random spy decided to build 40 siege weapons in Ascension Bay at the supply depots to lock out our siege for Maguuma’s raid as well.
So yes, we had to come back to our borderlands and wipe [iLL], and the vast majority of players were pissed that you guys cost us our push into Crystal Desert for both our servers to regain a foothold. Not like there’s an alliance or we expect your cooperation, but please forgo playing the victim card.
Mag is the special server I must say.
I like killing them though.
Please remove all EU/Oceanic/Asian/etc. gamers off american servers.
Likewise please return RUIN back to us so they can fail once more against prime time competition.
Thank You,
Your Players
I wish these match ups weren’t settled during non peak times. PvDoor to win is annoying.
Thieves need a boost to be on par w/ the rest of the game’s classes.
People that are being bursted down by thieves need to realize it’s their own fault. Every class has the ability to negate the almighty BS combo.
WvW is where people are complaining about thieves…its not sPvP.
thx
Well bed for me.
Got bout 2hrs in and it’s actually a decent match
Too bad it’ll be like I said earlier.
Whatever happens tonight will be moot by noon tomorrow.
It’s nostalgia. That is all. Everything is gold plated in memory lane
Nope even later RvR was more rewarding than WvW
WvW is > tPvP.
Sorry but GW2: Battlefield edition to me isn’t that difficult. You’ll never face more than 4:1 odds in it. Facing 25:1 odds is a heck of a lot more difficult IMO.
Primetime is when the most people are on in the timezone that the server is located in.
So an American server has a Primetime of NA times. Same goes for EU/Oceanic/whatever.
Guilds that xfer to other servers outside their primetime to “Dominate” in PvP are terrible PvP Guilds. <— This unfortunately was permitted by the Dev team and we are stuck w/ it.
Personally I would not have allowed cross timezone play in WvW, or I would have set up the scoring a HECK of a lot different if it were allowed.
As it stands now PvDoor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Organized Skilled PvP.
That is wrong IMHO and needs to change.
just because our member most is office workers
so we only can fight at night (UTC+8)
but we will enjoy the match
(my english is poor)
DB -NNK
Not being mean, but why are you not on a server that is closer to your time zone (UTC)?
I fail to see the OP’s problem.
You didn’t die and made him run away every time…..in fact he used a thief’s best weapon of resetting the fight and trying to have a go at you w/ some of your CDs down.
But you still didn’t die and made him retreat multiple times….the WHOLE night.
So my question to you:
Is it the thief that is OP’d or is it the Ele that is OP’d?
Personally D/D ele’s are one of or strongest characters in this game.
Remembern no 1 class is going to have a 100% win/loss ratio against any other class, but you did. Food for thought.
<edit>What server is the OP on btw? Didn’t notice that he posted it…and also I notice you played DAoC since you referenced RvR + said solo is hardmode. What class did ya play =)
(edited by Jinks.2057)
Thieves don’t drop badges….they only drop low quality salvages if anything at all
People having problems with thieves is soooo Sept. 20th….
Get w/ the times its mesmers now kids.
Night cap servers kill Ebay since we have zero presence
That being said….still haven’t found a decent solo
Not impressed with solo players on either DB or HoD.
Maybe we’ll see better stock next week
Rofl.
Really?
Get off your high horse. No one needs to see you pad yourself.
WvW is big. You’re only going to see what you want to see. Keep your insulting attitude out of here and discuss the match, not how good you think you are.
Meanwhile, both HoD and DB are getting back a little footing right now. More than we’ve had all weekend, at least. I’m hoping it’ll carry over to the weekdays so it becomes a bit more of an even match.
Good luck to both of us!
High horse no
Simple observation yes
Im far from the greatest either way
Downed state promotes skilless gameplay.
Sorry but if ya get burned down ya should be dead. I’d lessen the time to res from complete dead to be a lil faster so you’d implement a tactic of ressing the dead.
As it is now you can be downed and kill a Mob to rally. This is stupid.
I’d also 1/2 the cost to repair ur armor after each death to compensate for faster deaths. The other option i’d go for is that getting a res doesn’t break ur equipment; only releasing to a waypoint should.
Not impressed with solo players on either DB or HoD.
Maybe we’ll see better stock next week
Sorry we didn’t get an influx of server transfers like EB. Maybe you can send some of your guys over here.
You win 4 in a row you’re going to get xfers.
It happens…..then they xfer off. That happens. Doesn’t change the fact i’ve not seen really 1 good person out solo since server xfers usually go in the zerg category
Not impressed with solo players on either DB or HoD.
Maybe we’ll see better stock next week
Lol who died and put you in charge of the mesmer subforums? We could’ve said the same when everybody was whining about how OP mesmers are.
Well unfortunately Anet believes we are OP.
With how easy it is to destroy people…..I tend to agree
I’m not having any problems. Sure ya gotta be smarter about setting up your clones, etc. but I still got em.
Being able to put up phantasms w/out actually having to hit w/ the spell was so OP’d it wasn’t even funny. I’m happy now that a lot of the FoTM rollers of mesmers are leaving…..so let’s just keep the other OP builds a secret until they completely move on mmmkay?
Maybe just maybe we mesmers were doing too much damage than what was intended?
This was the “anti-burst” patch…..Honestly I dunno but Dancing Dagger got the axe rightfully so, but that’s a -50% reduction vs the theory driven -50% on izerker etc.
We still absolutely pwn. Yes we can’t abuse LOS issues w/ the unintended bu….feature. Still tho I have zero problem taking out people 1v1 or 1v2-3….not a big deal fellas.
Well said Phuriok, Just gets frustrating when we don’t have those numbers, but wvw is still fun just got to change tactics when we cannot field the numbers.
You had the numbers during the Asian/EU/Oceanic wtf ever you call it prime time.
Score as of right now is
EB: 39,945 +345
DB: 5,911 +220
HD: 4,108 +130
The DB Euro crew has been zerging it up hardcore this AM, and eventually when the EB players go get some sleep they’ll turn the map around. The real question is….will KISS/DWORF log in? And if they do will they be able to keep the BL’s green or close enough for the NA EB players?
We’ll see, but I can see how DB has kept their server in this tiers…..PvDoor is vastly superior to winning against even numbers.
I believe the damage im seeing now on the phantasms is where it should have been all along.
No further adjustment is necessary
Thx.
Anyone got a score update?
“OMG I finally learned how to play and now kill thieves on the regular”
These threads are pathetic.
Thieves are the easiest class to counter.
If you are having problems with thieves you need to delete and quit this game.
Yes – you roll a thief. then you have an equally overpowered class and don’t have to worry about imbalance, that your opponent will be permanently invisible, that he can drop any other class in 3-4s, that he can finish you in downed state from invisibility etc.
If you’d like to try the game on normal mode sometime before the next thief nerf drops try any other class. If you can’t cope with normal mode then im sure you’ll be one of the ragequitters later next week when the nerf lands.
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I like when the turtle failed.
Either way Mag puts up more fight than NSP….the winner will be whoever has the best non US primetime representation….like it always is.
Wait a minute…….
I thought the backstab build was almighty and there was no stopping it.
You must be lying…..backstab builds are completely OP and unbeatable. You should be downing those opponents inside of 1 second……..
In all seriousness though. You need to surprise those targets for the BS build to work. You have out maneuver them and surprise them. If you can do that you have a chance to pull one out, but its an uphill battle.
There are two great hammer warriors in my guild. They love those BS thieves, because they can literally and figuratively crush them into dust with ease. They take enough defenses to survive the initial burst, and then they keep the thief controlled while they pound the life out of them. I’ve seen them utterly destroy BS thieves time and time again, but only once or twice have I seen a BS thief catch them off-guard/vulnerable and win.
Everyone can be taken by surprise.
Wait a minute…….
I thought the backstab build was almighty and there was no stopping it.
You must be lying…..backstab builds are completely OP and unbeatable. You should be downing those opponents inside of 1 second……..
In all seriousness though. You need to surprise those targets for the BS build to work. You have out maneuver them and surprise them. If you can do that you have a chance to pull one out, but its an uphill battle.
Its closer than expected atm score wise w/ EB holding a few points more ever scoring. Think it was 255 EB 220 for NSP and SF a piece.
Now the score has EB up by 2x the amount of points though.
You fix the being able to steal+CnD then EVERY class in this game looses that ability.
Trust me….other classes besides thief use this.
O and Judas in WvW where all these thief complaints are being generated from your build sucks. Your build will generate you getting killed more than your opponents.
Lots of stupid ideas to over compensate for people’s unwillingness to equip a stun break and get better reaction times.
Give it up, BS is way too strong and easy compared to other classes. Big support for nerfbat on this one.
l2play
If you see a thief in the distance…..chances are 99.8% he’s going to do his combo.
Adjust gameplay accordingly.
So what sort of recourse is there when a class is approchaing that can blink across the map, stealth for ages, burn you from 100-0 within 2 seconds of exiting stealth and then disappear again without fear of reprisal? Logout before he reaches you?
Or maybe you should stop being blinded by your desire for a crutch class and come to the conclusion that the devs did. BS is BS.
1. There is no such thing as “blink” for a thief….leave the WoWisms where they belong…
2. A pure Glass Cannon Build will not be shadow stepping across the board
3. Abuse the rendering issue yourself if you can’t live w/ it
4. If you are getting dropped in 2 seconds get some survival skills and better build
5. If the thief is dropping you in the middle of a zerg and “blinking” away he’s not stomping you….thus you won’t be dead. If you are being stomped in the middle of a zerg by a thief the problem is not that the thief is OP….the problem is you and your teammates
“The problem is TTK being too low.”
That’s the problem w/ all of the classes.
Sorry but thieves are balanced in sPvP and tPvP…infact they are kinda underpowered.
Anet does not balance based on WvW…..all the whines are based off WvW
When Anet nerfs things based on sPvP/tPvP its not a big deal to respec/regear…..but this was PURELY based on WvW…..you nerf it I expect the 100 gold or so that I’ve spent on the exotics/runes.
Don’t really care who wins this weeks match…only really care about killing NSP and SF peeps.
That being said only played a few times so the corpse abuse on you those fellas is prolly low.
IMHO Low IQ prevents capture…that’s fo darn sure.
Stop w/ the thief witch hunt b/c you fellas are getting out played. There are other classes that put thieves to shame….they just don’t have the word “thief”, “assassin”, or “stealth” in their names/descriptions.
Who cares who wins or loses as long as spawn camping isn’t being done…..problem is I’ve seen some of that going on
Corpse dancing, jumping and other humilation tactics -- When are they acceptable?
in WvW
Posted by: Jinks.2057
Emote everyone.
Emoting sub 80’s is even more satisfying.