What about people being falsely accused of being bots?
I haven’t been a victim, but I have seen people calling others bots, either because of their damage range, or because of certain skills, etc. I just want to know that I am safe from being falsely banned.
Do you run in a circle like a robot for 24 hours straight?
Do you teleport magically all over the map?
Do you stand in one spot spamming your number one skill for days on end?
This kittening kitten is getting worse by the day… DO SOMETHING!
I’m standing here looking at three teleporting bots at a DE right now. It is everywhere, the game is saturated with bots and cheaters. PVE, WVW… BOTS BOTS BOTS.
I am starting to feel like I am playing some kitten F2P junk from overseas.
I’m currently in Iron Marches at 65% completion. Sofar all but 2 events are stuck. On average I’m making 1000 karma per zone. At this rate I’ll be buying t3 armor set 3 years from now.
Do keep in mind that Karma rewards scale with lvls and events.
I have two lvl 80s at this time. One is sitting on 77k Karma and another is sitting on 110k Karma.
I would have bought something already, but the temple events in Leap and Cursed are all busted.
I can give gold to any character.
I can give dungeon tokens to any character.
I can give wvw badges to any character.
Karma is restricted to one character.
If you want to stand on keep walls and hit people with large radius and relatively fast cooldown attacks Elementalist. Be warned that while you are the zerg king able to sit on the backrow and rain down death.. You are going to be butchered by anyone you run into 1v1 if you have a staff in your hands.
Engineer grenades are also fun and it is some of the best debuffs in the game, but the aoe radius is much tighter.
I leveled an Elementalist to 80.
I am almost 80 on my Thief (78).
I want to earn T3 Cultural Armor
I want to WvW (this is a huge draw and primary selling point).
I like to Spvp.
I enjoy roaming the maps and farming various things.
I do a dungeon now and again, but this is not a huge draw.
I want to try crafting, but I have only gotten through T1 so far.
Do take note that this post makes no mention about action against gold buyers. So the end result here is going to be the same as all other games. The bot population will go down, but no go away. They will ban bots and the ones still making money will steal or buy new accounts. As long as buyers are allowed to exist, there will always be sellers.
They’re not a way to train you in anything. They’re just standard issues mobs with extra health. They’re a “challenge” meant to “challenge” you, and reward you if you survive.
What you say is a testement to the point I am trying to make. Are some of them high hp mobs that hit a little harder, yep. Are all of them, not even remotely.
One of the better ones I’ve run into was a Mezmer with high HP, medium damage, barriers, debuffs, boons on herself, norn transformation skills and knockback.
The higher level ones tend to have more skills and aren’t willing to just sit in melee with you the entire fight.
I’ve gone through 153 levels at this point (two chars) and I do not believe I have gotten to solo a single one of these. These are marked as a “challenge” and they are supposedly a way to train you up to deal with different tactics.
However, the fact is not a single one of them has been a challenge, since once two or more people pile onto them, they become a DPS zergfest.
This is going to sound petty and perhaps a trivial complaint to most… but I have gotten about half way through a few before someone else jumps in. Up until that point many have been interesting fights, that a single player can overcome if they play smart.
Ah well. Huge pity that you can never repeat them after they are completed a single time. I would do many of them again and I wouldn’t even expect a reward.
I’ll add some history. Government use to have heavy regulation on the banks in the US to control economic growth and to make sure things like the Great Depression didn’t happen again. 10ish year’s ago we moved to remove those regulations so the banks could do for of what they wanted and sell and buy assets as they see fit. Now US is in economic trouble again because of the lack of regulation.
Throwing money in the pool or lowering prices is not always the best way to fix things or stir the economy. Yellows selling right now on my server for 5-15G. I feel that is too high see how much money you can really make. So over time the market price for yellow’s will come down if everyone thinks the same. Eventually it will stable out to the appropriate selling price for how much money is really in the world.
Main problem is users in GW2 are selling items at other MMO prices. Users need to bring down their prices in line with the games economy. A weapon for 30-80G is ridiculous. 5-10G is hard to come by and sounds more in line with how hard it is to get money.
Ummm guy.. We are all using the same Trade Post. There is no server or server market. it is all one giant market. Level 80 Yellows sell for like 20s-40s.
The only game I’ve seen where there is ZERO gold selling is the Secret World. The game is simply genius. The best MMO on the market today, sadly they didn’t purchase a higher rating from Metacritic so everyone thinks it’s terrible without playing it.
The currency in that game is Pax Romana. Its’ abundant, easy to get and it’s, wait for it.. completely useless as from a few things here and there you farm for 10 minutes or run a dungeon and have what you need.
Unless you base your currency system around fluffy stuff, minor additions, then it’s going to be exploited.
I can already see my need to get gold and working for it…no thanks. I want to have fun playing the game. I have a job I get paid for it too. Well.
Once I hit level 80 if I find that I need to have RIDICULOUS amounts of gold, (I.E. TERA, WORST GAME EVER CREATED ON US SOIL) then I’ll quit. Easy as that.
So far, after 23 levels, I have 86 copper.. LOL really? Doesn’t ArenaNet need that more that I do? Can I mail it to them somehow? Where are the money drops? I’m pretty nervous about this.
Something does not add up with this post…
First off TSW failed because it is niche and it is Funcom… Everyone that played AOC saw that name and wrote it off immediately.
Secondly I can go into game right now and hit like 3-4 nodes (any node lvl does not matter) and sell that for more coin than you have. I could also complete a few hearts and get a little extra coin mailed to me seconds after completion. You do know about that right? What game are you even playing? I have 10g at lvl 73 and I just play the game with its natural flow.
I encourage everyone to post in or subscribe to this thread. This is something we need to be engaged in. If a dev posts here we need to know. If the thread is moved or deleted we need to know.
I’ve been fighting this wave since the game went live. Both in the game, here and on third party forums. The silence from Anet has me worried more than anything.
“Hi Sspoe.
Well, if the software is external to the game that would be ok. Up to you if you want to use the pad and not the keyboard. However, we do not accept external software that somehow modifies the game internally (mods and so).
Hope it helps. I will proceed now to lock the thread.”
and from your own link….
“Hi,
Indeed, as Cheiron said, this programm can be assimilated as a third party one, and therefore is not allowed on our game.
Please note that utilisation of third party software can lead to a definitive suspension of your account.
Now that the answer has been given, I will close this thread.”
In short using a gamepade is NOT bannable.
Using a application that comes with a game pad that maps keys is NOT bannable.
Using an application that changes the way the game functions (crosshairs) etc IS bannable.
Got Elementalist to 80… Found it to be lacking when you stack it up side by side with the other classes.
5/10.
Made a Thief which I have pushed to 64 at this point. High burst and lots of finesse dodges. Much more fun to watch. Viable tank/survival and DPS builds.
8/10
No such thing as perfect in my book. To get a 10/10 classes would have to be utterly flawless.
There is a thread about this and Anet posted in it. They explained why the issue was happening, that they were working on it and that they had not ETA.
So something you gonna have to put up with on the zerg servers. I’m on Tarnished Coast and I have never experienced it. I rarely have more than 50 on screen and it always draws them. My only other short term suggestion is make a nice little guerilla group for hit and run tactics and dominate supply camps. Avoid the zergs and clash against smaller groups.
I retired my 80 Elementalist to PVE farming, but it is primarily low level stuff. Can pull 10+ mobs and just AOE them down. I am sure some of the more duarable classes have a better time at high levels.
It would be nice if this section showed just dev posts and not every single moderator comment and action. I find it difficult to weed through all the “I will proceed to move this thread” “I will proceed to close this thread” to find actual information and comments from the devs.
First and foremost I know we won’t be getting RP servers. It will stay as it is as the unofficial RP server.
Having said that I haven’t seen an enforced RP server in years… I can’t even recall the last MMO title that had an RP server that enforced anything outside of naming rules. So sadly, this sounds a little bit like a copout to me. -shrug-
80 Things to Do At Level 80
Complete your personal story
Defeat Zhaitan
Unlock all available skills for your profession / race
Raise your crafting disciplines to skill level 400
Earn enough gold to purchase a racial armor set
Earn enough karma to purchase an exotic armor set
Play through all dungeons in story mode
Complete all dungeons in explorable mode
Complete all 33 possible explorable mode dungeon paths
Earn enough dungeon tokens to purchase a set of armor
Collect a set of armor from each dungeon in the game
Start a petition to make the Undead Orrian Chicken a new necro minion
Earn enough karma to purchase a racial weapon
Craft an exotic weapon for your character
Craft an exotic armor set for your character
Purchase a Dragon’s Deep weapon
Earn all possible PvE titles
Experiment with new builds for your profession
Discover all possible recipes for your crafting disciplines
Master all crafting disciplines
Experiment with the Mystic Forge
Create a Mystic weapon in the Mystic Forge
Craft a legendary weapon in the Mystic Forge
Explore all areas in the game
Find and use a vial of black dye
Find a vial of black dye and give it to a friend
Create or purchase a full set of 20 slot bags
Give Logan a wedgie
Participate in the Norn Keg Brawl
Unlock all Keg Brawl achievements
Create a new character to experience a different profession / race
Participate in structured PvP
Raise your sPvP rank
Achieve the rank of Ascendant in sPvP
Complete your favorite sPvP cosmetic armor set
Collect new cosmetic weapon skins for sPvP
Unlock all possible cosmetic weapon and armor skins in sPvP
Earn all sPvP titles
Find and complete all 31 jumping puzzles
Complete the current Monthly achievements
Help your guild earn influence to unlock additional perks
Outrun a centaur
Charm all possible pets as a Ranger
Create an all-ranger guild called Team Rocket, lose constantly in sPvP
Collect all 101 types of cooking materials
Fill every collection slot in the bank with at least one item
Participate in World versus World
Help your world win in WvW
Defeat enough enemy players in WvW to complete the medal
Complete the awesome Yakslapper achievement in WvW
Complete all WvW achievements
Build and use all siege weapon types in WvW
Earn all possible WvW Titles
Play the organ in Caledon forest, and party with the Quaggan
Earn enough gold to purchase a Commander Tome
Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects
Defeat the Shatterer
Defeat the Claw of Jormag
Defeat Tequatl the Sunless
Add new friends to your friend’s list
Organize an in-game event for your guild
Complete every map in the game
Participate in meta events
Discover and participate in new dynamic events
Collect stacks of butter and butter prank your friends
Learn the ins and outs of the Trading Post
Get rich selling Globs of Ectoplasm
Buy a Box o’ Fun and throw a party in Lion’s Arch
Complete an armor set for your character’s Order
Read all of the books in Divinity’s Reach
Read the story of how Ebonhawke was founded
Complete all possible weapon achievements for your character
Defeat the Champion of Grenth and purchase the exotic armor set
Write about your level 80 experience, have it published on GW2Hub
Purchase a set of armor from the guild armorsmith
Purchase a set of weapons from the guild weaponsmith
Complete all Slayer achievements
Complete the Lifetime Survivor achievement
Go skydiving in Arah after defeating Zhaitan
Have fun!
You dont get it. For most people complaining, it’s the core mechanics/gameplay that is lacking, not some small simple bugs. We are talking about major design flaws, which in it’s current state only a few people actually enjoy for an extended period of time.
You can’t really say things like that unless you have metrics to back it up. These forums are not an accurate measurement of how the playerbase feels. I come here and nitpick the hell out of things and in general, I still like the game very much.
Natural resources need to replenish themselves over time.
Learn to be in balance with your environment, young grasshopper. crosses legs and floats into the sky
-Shoots down- Don’t tell me how to play.
He is not telling you how to play. People just want everything their way, everytime, everywhere. If the DR system was something implemented since the first betas, you wouldnt be here complaining. Just because they changed something now, and you were able to experience how it was before the change, and you happen to like it, you think everything should be rolled back to what it was, you know, just because YOU liked it more.
Is it really this hard to just adapt?
The concept is not that hard to understand. People think they should play the way they want, but they fail to grasp the fact that this way will ever be as much as what the game allows it to be. If the game changes, you will have to adapt your way to play. MMO is an ever changing world. Sure, you may come here and say to A.Net you didn’t like their changes, and they even may change everything back, but you saying that they shouldn’t tell you how to play is just plain stupid. You are playing the game they made, EVERYTHING you can do is because they allowed it to be done in the first place.
They have already admitted this stuff was to curve botting. It did not curve botting onekittenbit. So why should it remain if it is having no impact on botting?
The bots just got smarter, better and now have an even bigger advantage over the rest of us. This games client is entirely to trusting.
Client: I just teleported half way across the zone.
Server: Cool
Client: I can hit mobs with a melee attack, but the mob is 100 yards away.
Server: Dats cool
Client: I’m under the terrain.
Server: I don’t care
Because people have been putting up with it for days. It was poorly tested. They need a PTR, cause release has proven one thing. If they make something, we can break it.
Hmm, tough choice when bots have already circumvented the entire anti-farming code and are currently rolling in items and gold
Care to explain that?
Bots are running some pretty advanced scripts at this time. They teleport from node to node and rack up large amounts of exp and materials. They also teleport from mob to mob and never kick in the DR.
These anti farming systems only effected those static bots. So they just evolved into something better, while punishing the rest of us real players.
Natural resources need to replenish themselves over time.
Learn to be in balance with your environment, young grasshopper. crosses legs and floats into the sky
I wish it had a parry mechanic (exactly like dodge -1 sec immunity- cant parry siege viecles ) for some professions like warriors+thiefs+ guardians .
Lowering their burst damage + healing , but giving them more survibility in meele range :P
There are several weapon sets in this game that have active block and active parry mechanics.
MMOs have mass appeal. Fighting systems from games like Soul Caliber are a niche market and tradionally those two player bases are not heavily mixed.
Also MMOs are dealing with alot more math. We already have issues with lag in WvW cause the server can’t keep up. Adding more dodges, more combos, high/med/low (more complexity) would negatively impact things.
I could see it working fine with any melee only weapon set. The moment any AOE groudn target moves into the mix you are going to be tipping your view angle in order to try and ground target.
I hit it last night with my 44 thief in an area that just had a lot of DEs. I was in one of those situations where I had completed all the hearts my level and was using DEs to catch up a level so that I could move on to the next set of hearts.
No one can deny that it hasn’t been down a great deal. To the point of making things down right annoying if not miserable for those interested in trading.
For botting? I’ve been seeing some of the names botting the poop out of different areas and events for weeks now. I’d just like the satisfaction of knowing that someone lost 60 dollars because they are a cheating kitten.
The silence from Anet on this subject is deafening. This game has been rolling for several weeks now and I still see so many bots. Often the mods just close the threads. I’m really starting to wonder about the health of the game.
and here again is another example of the worst kind of posting. You are creating something out of nothing. The botting issue persists in all games, no matter how many preventions are put in place, and just so you know, anti botting scripts have a huge effect on server load too, so when they run, we will lose functionality at the player end as a result (slower logins, higher pings during scripting hours etc).
I don’t know how it is so difficult to grasp that botting has no fix all solution. Where there is a will there is a way, and where there is code to manipulate, there will be people to manipulate it. Don’t forget, some people making these botting programs do it because they can, and nothing more. They want to see how resilient of a program they can make, to make some cash on selling it too. There are a billion preventions possible for bots, and there will always be a billion and one ways to get around it.
You have to see that if it was such a simple solution, it wouldn’t exist. There is NO benefit to any company having bots in their game. None at all, so they work their hardest to eliminate it.
It just takes time.
Also your comment on the health of the game over an issue that most of the playerbase don’t even know about? Yeah. Sorry, thats not even worth addressing.
GW2 is not all games. In this game is has more of an impact than your average MMO. In many games gold (currency) has no real value. In Guild Wars 2 though gold converts to gems and gems back to gold. I know there is no way to 100% stomp out botting, but there is a serious massive botting presence in this game currently. Anyone with two eyes and a brain between their ears can see that.
If this is allowed to continue as its current pace and the volume of botting grows then Anets own gem shop will become a worthless pile and the currency we earn in a legitimate fashion will have no value outside of repairs and vendor bought merchandise. This directly leads to ANOTHER problem. Unlike other MMO titles GW2 has no direct trade system and NO COD system for mail. Which means as the value of gold decreases and as inflation goes up… Players will have no way to fall back onto alternative methods of trading, such as the barter system (unless we start using third parties as a go between).
There obviously needs to be checks on the back end for things like teleporting.
The silence from Anet on this subject is deafening. This game has been rolling for several weeks now and I still see so many bots. Often the mods just close the threads. I’m really starting to wonder about the health of the game.
WRONG! Elementalists Rogue build can expect to 2-2-2-2 to victory! Did you even watch the video?
L2P issue on your side mate.
#1: HS is nerfed. Read that carefully. I know it’s a hard concept to understand.
#2: You can kill anyone if you 2v1, 3v1, 4v1 someone…and vise versa.
#3: Only bad players die to HS spamming bad thieves.
#4: Learn to play an elementalist better.
Why you no watch video? ^_°
…because I saw the starting clips of him dying as an elementalist, and realized that any class would die in the situations he died in.
I have to disagree …other classes have Armor, Hp, Invisibility, Shouts, Trickery, Glamour, Survival etc …
We have 3 second invulnerability even useless in PvE….yaaay us ? XD (sarcasm)
Are you joking? 3 second (I believe it is 4 actually) invulnerability, for example, against a HS spamming baddie thief=instant game changer if you aren’t bad at your class.
Anyone with a brain is going to stop spamming the moment they see INVULNERABLE floating over your head. A few seconds later they can spam anything they want and your really cool invuln with a really huge CD is going to be so useful.
The only thing it is good for is wvw and spvp as a confusion or escape skill. It serves that purpose very well, but I see little reason to have it during pve play.
