Commander Twerknificient
Joey Bladow
Let me tell you a story At about 2 am AEST on BPBL we were funning around at your north camp. Not much happening only a few of you trying hard to take it back. At the same time you had 40 on EBBL doing stacking and practice runs (we were watching you) We were holding your whole borderland with 20 max and it was our holiday resort all red.
Now I don’t like spawn camping with 2 Omegas firing at your door but why on earth would you have a group of that size making no score for you for a long period of time. Maybe you need to relook at your priorities and communicate with each other.
Please provide screenshots of the 90 when 20 run riot this morning and you have 40 fiddling about whilst your map went red.
Stop trying to make excuses. Our players have played longer Our commanders have worked harder and we all work with one aim to do the best we can with what we have
Maybe because its over and people need to get their crap together for next week? Or maybe we just don’t care anymore. Congrats you won, now win with class.
Don’t worry Grabemx we will return the favor
These threads are more biased than major news networks.
First thing I want to say is FA talks more trash on these forums than any other sever we’ve faced in the last five weeks, congratulations.
Now onto my unbiased comments about Fort Aspenwood. Your server has amazing coverage, I honestly believe Sanctum of Rall had less people defending and havocing last week than you guys do currently.
You’ve got some very organize havoc groups, and you also have dedicated players willing to scout, refresh, and camp ruins. You also have some great open field commanders. You’ve kicked our kitten several times during the week but it’s difficult to honestly evaluate open field battles in a fair-minded manner, I feel at peak hours, when each server had a proper stack it was pretty evenly matched, but this is just from my experience.
Now let’s look at some empirical data!
SBI was ranked 14 seven weeks ago, and through community building and some helpful transfers we were able to rise to rank 8 before the seasons began. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/31
FA was rank 5 seven weeks ago, and remained rank 5 for 9 total weeks before dropping to rank 6 the final week before the season started. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/39
Now let’s take a look at the point system behind WvW. Assuming that the Glicko 2 rating system is still being used, the current standings for this week’s matchup are as followed.
Dragonbrand: 141 691 (+ 61 297)
Fort Aspenwood: 244 327 (- 41 339)
Stormbluff Isle: 202 988 (+ 41 339)Now does any of this really matter? What does it really mean? To be honest I don’t really know! I just thought it was interesting.
Congratulations on your win this week, and I look forward to playing you again in week 7.
As a final note; mad respect for Dragonbrand, you guy’s got picked on all week and refused to give up.
I’m not doing a TLDR for this crap!
Um, our guild hasn’t been facerolled by your server in the open field.
You and Baest or however its spelled need to stop running then.
There’s no marathon achievements in WvW, so I’m not sure what you guilds are hoping to accomplish.
And we had MAYBE 12 people on last night. Do you think we are going to go 12v30? Nah, we’ll run to a tower.
oh please stop this madness… i havent see Abys field less than 20.
Dude I don’t care if they run 12 or 20, it’s probably in their best interest to run into that tower anyways. lol
Yeah, it could be our best interest to run in the tower to farm the loot bags off your bodies
Yo Bro, I’m all good with kitten talking, but you and this obsession with Abyss, basically saying that we just can’t handle anything is beyond me. We wipe the floor with you and FA, and you do us that same favor back. Definitely on mutual terms. I have the respect for FA and as you should have the respect for Abyss. But I don’t see you and whatever Guild, whichever that may be, out there destroying us left and right. And if that may be the case when I’m not on, props to ya.
We bring the fights every night to have fun. If you choose to talk kitten about Abyss every time you push us off of something or wipe us, well we can do the same with the countless times that we have done so, but we won’t do that out of Respect. All in all, Go out there and have fun. Get some loot bags and enjoy the rest of this matchup.
Someone tldr this for me please.
TLDR He doesn’t understand why you have to go after abyss on forums. Abyss brings the fight and wipes people and gets wiped. If you talk kitten they talk kitten. They can talk a lot because they wipe lots of nerds. Have fun get bags.
end of TLDR you are welcome
How many people do you have in your guild? I would suggest next time you see a commander in WvW pm him/her and tell him/her that you would like to learn what it takes to lead. Learn some techniques and check your servers forum for advice. Then maybe make a fun guild event for your guild with the tactics you have learned. The biggest thing you need to know is in WvW wiping is expected and ok. Waypoint and try again make it fun for your guild and yourself.
The level of ego in this thread.
Is over 9000!!!
The world wants to know…..Has anyone spiked Devon?
Winning is about “coverage” and not “skill” . Probably true.
IMO though, all servers have enough people to queue all maps all the time. Convincing them to do so is not easy and takes skill. A special kind of skill.
We had almost no BL queues last night in SBI.
Are you guys fielding a militia commander on each BL? With the new influx of PvE players a Commander designated for them seems to keep their participation up.
Clearly, one or two guilds transferring are “bandwagon” as opposed to the clear lack of experience in working together that a very large influx of players to a server exhibit.
BTW, Joey, I’m hoping for omega or gtfo.
Without a doubt. I will keep at least 1 on each char when we face bp
As for all this talk of wagon or not, tanking or not who cares. The simple fact is we are farming you guys hard, so thank you and will one of you please drop a precursor already for me!
For sure man. Hope BP is going well too. I just can’t wait to see the forums for our matchup!
+1 Roquefort! IDK who that Nick guy is but kitten is he pessimistic.
Dropping Siege on a dead body in most of the case it is not a sign of disrespect…but I way to stop the corpse from becoming a spy…
[/quote]
If you see me drop siege on you and build it then it is meant as disrespect. Also, please note the amount and expense of siege dropped on you. The higher the cost or amount the more I am trying to disrespect you. Hope that helps.
It really has been very entertaining to see the amount of crying the T1 servers are doing. Their PvF is second to none. In all seriousness when you mass recruit I’m not sure anyone can find it in their heart to pity you, as you did this to yourself.
So much QQ about zergs in here.
I can’t wait to murder you nerds!!
+1
This thread makes me laugh. I guess your hammer train hasn’t met Mag’s necro bus!
Nice post Star!
These QQ posts put a smile on my face. Everyone bought into the crap T1 was saying about no que now everyone on those servers are stuck in them while every other server gets to play and enjoy.
Haha T1 sucks to be you!
You guys definitely have a lot more numbers than you had two weeks ago. I’m not complaining, I’d rather a few other servers in Silver league be stacked than none at all.
During off NA hours it’s not new transfers it probably has a lot more to do with achievement hunters.
10.15.2013 We will never forget the purple rain of death…
PvE kids in JP…..slowly dusts his Thief off
That’s a catchy phrase for your server.
If 25 man is a zerg you must kitten your pants when you fight SOR and the others.
I can’t speak for the rest, but I signed up for this in order to have a go at SBI on the leagues, so plz Mag show up and fight it out. I dunno about “gaming the system”, we just want to have fun busting zergs
I thought CORE was a zerg guild?
Most nights we have 20-25 on a BL/. We aim to fight the big enemy zergs on the map.
Most Effective Tactic Available…META see I helped >.>
This is by far the most compelling answer I’ve seen so far—and does more to alleviate my dislike for the word more than any argument provided earlier. But I think Joey just made it up…
No I didn’t…
<.<
Ok I did
1. Population Imbalance
2. Rewards WvW vs. PvE
3. Lag
If CORE did just transfer from IoJ to FA than they have more history with SBI than Mag and might enjoy thinking they forced us into gold league.
But now Mag is leading that matchup and has a higher PPT than SBI so they’ll retake 6 shortly on the predicted rankings during our worst coverage period. Its a nail biter!
CORE did transfer and had a fun night out fighting but we really want to see SBI in Silver with us.
Yeah, wtk is going on in this match?
Is CORE Ocn/Sea? If so, why on earth would you go to FA?
We are primarily NA but a lot of the guild gets on PST NA and if they are having a good time collecting bags will stay on for a really long time.
Um Alaric do you know how to count was it 8 or 3?
Most Effective Tactic Available…META see I helped >.>
We ran a ~20 Omega assault on Green BL Bay last night by the time we made it to the door we had 15 and by the time we were in inner Bay we were down to about 10. The rest were still alive but remaining in place where the pilots dc’d at. It was pretty hilarious to see.
I’m ok frustrating people who moved to a stacked server.
Why not lower the player cap per BL and EB. This will help the servers that aren’t stacked, relieve pressure on Anet servers’ and even make Anet $ with people paying to transfer to less stacked servers. Let’s face it the only way to make the population of WvWers balance is to do this and make people who really want to play abandon their stacked servers.
Skill lag way greater on T1 than lower tiers. Roaming greater on lower tiers. Blob mentality less on lower tiers.
Russ IoJ has a lot of active players in WvW as for PvE you can guest to any server. I’m not too sure but you might just be the problem….or you just want an excuse to bandwagon. To each their own I guess.
+1 to OP you hit everything that I feel is going on with this game.
Glad to see I made the right decision when I quit this game
Oh what you quit the game? I guess your signature wasn’t enough. At least you frequent the forums so we all know that you left the game!
But serious question what’s the problem with sPvP arenas?
Just go back to zerging your dragon, you clearly don’t understand what attracts people to open world PvP.
This company better get on track soon with WvW and what is with the OP getting infracted. Everyone needed to know that this bullkitten actually did happen. Thank you OP for showing just how out of touch Anet and their employees are with WvW.
I’d just like to make a note of one thing that I think people aren’t considering when they transfer to stacked worlds. You will not, repeat will not, be able to receive the reward based on overall world place in the league, unless you achieve the meta achievement for the season. If you aren’t able to get into WvW much, you won’t get the rewards. So it is absolutely taking a risk to transfer to a world that has a large WvW population.
Too bad when the stack servers fight everyone else it will make certain tasks very difficult if not down right impossible for the other servers to accomplish. GG Anet.
So last night during a GvG between a SBI and an IOJ guild a dev with his Anet tag decided to interfere in the GvG saying it was interfering with his WvW. Has anyone else seen this type of thing from reds? Or was this guy just an idiot? I’m sorry but we are enjoying the game and playing or spectating as we want. This dev was not just representing himself but the entire developer group. We are trying to still enjoy the game instead of leaving, even though you have made it harder to enjoy.
WvW isn’t successful enough to meet Anet’s aspirations, and the the way it’s been headed it’s not going to be.
Even with (or perhaps because of) the disasters of the current patch, WvW is rapidly turning into a game focus on the hardcore WvW players and servers. This is emptying out the WvW maps, makes WvW less appealing to new and casual players (they are even more stomp bait than they were in the past), and makes it progressively harder to create successful match-ups in WvW.
The problems seems to arise from two lines of flawed thinking:
- Flawed Idea #1: Imbalance is a defining characteristic of WvW
This has led to Anet’s Wvw team:
a) Implementing changes that make WvW even more unbalanced
b) Being blind to the potential to improve balance in WvW and the benefits that would deliver (WvW would be more fun for existing players and and more attractive to new/casual players)- Flawed Idea #2: Increasing player power is a successful strategy for WvW
This idea has lead to changes that directly increase the power of dedicated WvW players and servers and in doing so has:
a) Made WvW less appealing to new players and players on servers with low levels of WvW participation
b) Exaggerated the differences in competitiveness between WvW servers.
Amazingly, this idea (which seems to be derived from the flawed imbalance idea) is directly counter to the approach that has been fundamental to the success of the rest of GW2.There is one further problem:
- there are too many WvW servers for the number of people playing WvW.
This results in many servers having WvW populations that too low to be competitive, and avid WvW players flocking to the few servers with competitive populations and in the process further eroding the competitiveness of the servers they abandon.Anet need to clean up the mess they’ve made of WvW with this latest patch. But rather than plaster over the latest problems, Anet would be far better to use this as a prompt to change direction and improve the balance in WvW. The obvious steps to doing this are:
- Reduce the number of WvW servers and balance up their populations This can be done by:
a) Unhooking WvW servers from PvE
b) Consolidating servers with low populations
c) Capping WvW sever populations at the highest current WvW server population
d) Making it free to join or transfer to WvW servers with lower populations- Cap WVW gear stats at the exotic level
- Remove buffs that cause power creep for WvW players
Once that’s in place, we will all have a more competitive environment in which to play WwW (and without which we simply don’t have enough people to play against). From there Anet can take complexity they’ve already put into WvW and make it work by doing things like: fixing the older lag problems, improving the commander system, fixing the party system, and fixing the excessive incentives for zerging.
Overall, this will make WvW more enjoyable for existing players as match-ups and in-game fights will be more balanced and therefore more exciting. This will also make it easier for new players to join WvW as they will a) have less of a performance deficit against established WvW players, and b) have access to more competitive WvW servers without having to sacrifice ties to their existing PvE communities.
Unfortunately, this will also require Anet to acknowledge that it has made mistakes with the direction it’s been taking WvW. The mistakes are there, but to date Anet has shown very little willingness or ability to acknowledge mistakes. Hopefully the disaster of this latest patch is enough to push them past that.
The other problem will be the dedicated WvW players who’ve become addicted to the extra power the recent changes (guard buff, bloodlust, open ended WXP abilities, ascended weapons) have given their characters. They’ve got used to winning more easily and won’t want to give up their hard won superpowers. Their challenge will be to accept that instead of making WvW better, that increase in power has been undermining WvW by i) making participation in WvW less appealing for new and casual players, and ii) making it harder for servers with more dedicated WvW players to find decent competition.
( http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/power-creep covers the basic issues. Anyone have links showing how imbalance and power creep erodes player numbers in PvP games?)
TLDR: Anet have to fix the current mess they’ve made of WvW. It will be far better if they do that in ways that return balance to WvW because that’s what it’s going to take for WvW to succeed.
[Edit: Included statement about there being too many WvW servers]
[Edit: revised recommendation #1 to explicitly state it will reduce the number of WvW servers]
QFT +1
Honestly after all the ascended crap, lag, blow out matches, bloodlust, commander garbage, and much much more I can’t see WvW making a comeback. By the end of this first season many new games and consoles for that matter will be out leaving a big question: what are the devs doing to maintain their player base?
Just to point something rather frustrating out. Before you try and recruit a bunch of guilds, you should REALLY do something about your forums. Like REALLY.
+1 fix the forums people can’t register and the home page is missing/broken.
Love this idea it reminds me of the MAG game for PS3 that used three factions. The only problem is the amount of work/development time needed for this. On a positive note I believe ESO is doing this exact thing.
Leagues are coming that will fix the blowouts…. right?!
<.<
You guys are never satisfied. You think the population declined. Actually this was ANET’s plan to eliminate the queue issue!
yes, i am jk.
Well…kitten ! (Slow clap) well played well played indeed…
/ <.<
See I don’t understand how you can do such major changes and then not stay communicating with the community about them. Why not have a WvW survey that everyone can take 1 time per account to gauge how people feel. Put the option in the “b” tab.
So, we have had a reset and a few days to see how the buff works, yet still no comment by any Dev about the general forum consensus regarding the buff. I know we are the minority and all but the general population in WvW seems to have fallen. Maybe its a certain dragon pulling the masses away but I feel a lot of people have just given up with the blowout matches being even more severe with this buff. When will we hear from those that dictate the way the game we love works?
LOL i just watched this pathetic video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1cHwdF_91A LOL SERIOUSLY MEND! hahahahaha o wait this actually deserves a huehuehuehuehuehue, what a bunch of mouth breathers so much crap because of a game o god that video just killed me! LOOOOL u talk about our server but u only refer urself to few persons pls…. stop talking about a server that have more ppl then u have brains if u want to offend the persons that offend u, offend them don’t involve the entire server just pathetic.
P.S: u say in the video teenagers MINDS, this video make u look more kitten after that comment, u acted worse then a teenager.
P.S.2: and u dont go posting real life pictures of ppl, thats breaking privacy rules grow up!
I have to say that video was random….
Players get frustrated>buy gems>transfer to new server for fair fights= Anet wins
With a name like Pew Pew Kittens this guild could not get anymore epic…wait… if you join it could be epic +1
Not affiliated with ArenaNet or NCSOFT. No support is provided.
All assets, page layout, visual style belong to ArenaNet and are used solely to replicate the original design and preserve the original look and feel.
Contact /u/e-scrape-artist on reddit if you encounter a bug.