Guild Wars 2

Hope they fix this soon.

Just something to consider – if we truly want Anet to take this list seriously then it’s important to only include actual profession bugs and not design decisions that people just don’t like.

Also, the people posting comments that consist of “there’s no point, Anet blah blah” should probably just not post in this thread. The frustration is understandable, but it doesn’t help the goal of this thread at all.

Torch paired with sword is great for a shatter build. Anyone saying it doesn’t synergize well probably just hasn’t tried it. Prestige is really nice for setting up the shatter and gives a good amount of additional burst when you come out of it (ideally timed so the target is immobilized by your sword #3).

As for the iMage not being good… It seems to make fine shatter fuel to me.

Is the clone pathing to the target even necessary? Why not just have the clone appear on the target? That would bypass some of the issues associated with the clone’s movement.

Korossive.7085:

lol scepter #1 I just saw the title and started laughing… sorry

Scepter #1 was abandoned for dead by the devs before the game was even out.
Mesmer = Sword mainhand.

Scepter’s a joke: on phantasms, on attack speed, on effective play, on the using player. This will never be fixed, let it go, use a sword. There will be 17 more Scarlet patches before any bugs/QoLs pile is addressed.

People have been using scepter to great effect for quite a while now. You’re behind apparently.

Here’s how Diamond Skin SHOULD work…

Conditions should still stick and tick, however they do 0 damage UNTIL the total amount of damage they would have done is equal to 10% (or even 20%) of the ele’s health and then they begin to damage as normal. Not sure if that’s even possible to program in gw2, but it’d be a lot more balanced than a blanket “until the ele is below 90% health, conditions do nothing.”

Really wish anet would comment on this in some way. The complete lack okittennowledgement is making it a lot worse in my opinion.

“…superior skill use…”

mass invis, blinks away

You know what’s going to happen as soon as anet introduces the ability to salvage FOTM rings?

“I ALREADY DELETED 50 RINGS WHERE IS MY COMPENSATION”

Cyclonite.5786:

I am willing to bet that the reason high level fractal players are being screwed is because they are a small percentage of the population but also don’t buy a lot of gems. Anet has probably even realized that losing most or all of these customers won’t hurt their profits but may even help them. Think about it, the fractal entry point and progression is being made easier so they can bring in more newcomers which = more profits. The fractal veterans are made up mostly of hardcore gamers and we all know most hard core gamers use the most bandwidth and put very little real money into games. This move is a win-win for Anet.

Is this real? Is this a real theory that people have?

Paciunek.2496:

That’s why I’m not putting any effort into anything in this game. No legendary, no high level fractals, no nothing – it’s not worth it. Only thing I do is achievement grinding (and dungeons from time to time), because I know I’ll eventually get some reward from it. They don’t reward better players, they reward farmers and casuals for being worse than hardcores. It’s like they would ask “Would you kindly leave queensdale train for a minute and start playing our content, please?”. They’re just punishing for being over average and making things easier to achieve by anyone without effort. I can’t find anything challenging (in fun way) and worth my time in this game. I’m happy I’m only frac level 31 and I didn’t bother to level it on any other character. Initially I didn’t want to struggle with brainless pugs once more, but now I’m so glad, because they would just throw away my hours of pain just to make few people go back to fractals for a week.

THE END TIMES HAVE COME REPENT

Seriously, this is the kitten iest “I’m taking my ball and going home” post I’ve read in a while.

Every patch: “GIVE US COMPENSATION!”

Compensation for WHAT? There is a new mechanic starting at FoTM30. That’s great for you if you got to FoTM80 before the patch, but there is now a NEW mechanic that you haven’t progressed past.

A refund for what? Read and understand the changes before you make these complaints.

Arrow.3856:

Nexi.1297:

angelpaladin.7921:

The title say it all here another patch that has very little story content (10min instance) with a mind numbing zerg after the fact. The sad part is I enjoy zerging down bosses but all we have done since Scarlet was introduced is run from one zone to the next zerging bosses.

Yor’re getting it totaly wrong:

Of course A-Net could have given us a spore invasion, the need to discover the source, a magic anomaly in Kessex Hills, a quest to unvover the origin of this anomaly and further story development until the disguise is unraveled.
Zerging and grinding would have been just a filler for completionists until the next update is going online.

But fortunately ANet knows that time is money, so they decided to save us from wasting our time by skipping the time consuming story part…

Well I personally can not wait for GTA 5 to come out on PC. Oh and this is related because arena net is going to loose more and more and soon you will be as dead as all other failed MMORPG. Don’t wait till you die before you realize that your hurting your game.

I’m enjoying it. shrug

There are these whine posts with every single patch and guess what, people are still playing. Also, I don’t think you can call gw2 a “failed mmorpg” at this point. It’s been very successful.

I tend to use scepter #2 and torch #4 a lot more offensively.

Kevlar Eater.1985:

Why bother reporting? It isn’t like the bugs in the skills/traits in just about every profession are getting acknowledged, let alone fixed. In some cases, new problems are piled on top of old ones, making complaints worse while remaining unfixed (basically like spraying cologne on a stinking turd).

You are part of the problem.

He’s obviously very young – so maybe keep that in mind when you’re belittling him on the forum.

I appreciate menace because he always elicits an in-depth response from Pyro that I actually learn something from

Hexxen, on the other hand, seems to have a serious crush on menace and enjoys picking on him any chance he can get. Their writing style is actually very similar (awful).

It’s situational.

There are CC nodes around the world. Crying about stuff that isn’t even true.

Fhaeris.9237:

Mesmer community “please fix scepter 1”
Anet “we’re reducing cd on scepter 2 and 3”

Okay.

Yes because the mesmer community is full of so many great and balanced ideas (it’s not).

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I think that’s a dumb idea. They should just make it so scepter shoots a beam that looks like the GS beam so the bads who are dazzled by pretty colors will use it instead of GS.

You saying only bad players use Greatsword?

Why? Why would you start this?

Pyro’s reasons for choosing Bifrost are identical to my own. Acquiring a legendary is a huge investment in time and resources, so you should get something with as much usefulness as possible. Plus it shoots rainbows.

“Good.” Yes, mesmer is good.

You can’t cherry pick skills and compare them between professions in an effort to “balance.” With your logic there should be only one profession in the entire game.

This “X class does this better so why can’t I” will go around and around forever. There is nothing egregious enough about mesmer’s ability to apply torment that it needs to be changed.

Ash loves to make these wild exaggerations about how much better other classes have it than mesmers. His logic is that the mesmer should have the best of every class and none of the weaknesses. “Failed logic” is the best way to describe it. Pretty tiresome to read because it drowns out the actual, discussion-worthy issues.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Hey Lahel! As much as I respect you and your build making skills, too, you have no right to call someone a troll unless they directly engaged you and annoyed the kitten out of you. This person here told you that this was his first attempt at a build. So what if it looks funky right now. The weapons sets are solid. All he gotta do is change some armor stats and 1 or 2 utility skills and he is good to go. Again, like I said, I respect you too, but you shouldn’t try to down a player when it’s his first time posting a build he made up. It ridiculously discourages them.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was saying this build could be suited for trolling around Stonemist Castle in EBG.

I’m still trying to figure out what egregious offense he’s committed that has you all so upset. Or is it that you just find him annoying? If that’s the case then these reactions are pretty sad and unnecessary.

My take is that he posts because he wants to be involved in the community and at some point some of you decided you didn’t like him and he deserved to be ousted from the forum.

Hexxen.7216:

Please give up on Mesmer like you did on Necro and move on.

What’s the point of this, Hexxen? I know you dislike him from previous threads, but lately he’s been nothing but positive and, unlike most, is actually excited about the mesmer profession. Isn’t that what we want on our forum?

Give him a chance, you don’t have to engage with him at all – but you also don’t have to undermine him.

selan.8354:

sry joonk but i gotta disagree with u.
dungeon, yes we are ok, spvp 1v1 1v2 we are alright
wvw we are only alright as roamers, but in zergs we need buffs. we lack aoe, we lack cleansing and we lack out of combat speed too. in combat we can blink and stuff but that about it.

These are the typical comments of a dissatisfied mesmer player. Maybe it’s the whole “grass is always greener” thing, but it’s simply not true. We are more than “ok” in dungeons, we are one of the most desired professions to have in a dungeon/fractal run. We are so much more than “only alright” as WvW roamers. I win the majority of encounters while roaming in WvW and every fight I’ve lost I felt was due to simply being outplayed, not because of some flaw inherent in the profession. Yes, even against the infamous stun warrior.

I will yield to you on the zerg issue though, as I don’t enjoy the zerg playstyle and so don’t have enough experience with it to really comment. But don’t shortchange our capabilities in other areas of the game!

If we could stop being so focused on other classes (the warrior) and cherry-picking capabilities we’re envious of, maybe we could get over the self-imposed perception of mesmers as handicapped and come to realize how awesome, capable and unique they are.

Now that I think about it – you’re the same person who made a post complaining about mesmer movement speed just a few days ago, even though there are plenty of options for overcoming that weakness. Yes you have to give something up, but that’s fair.

Just be careful what you wish for (and complain about). We have viable builds for so many different types of content (dungeons, fractals, PvP, WvW roaming). I think mesmers are in a great place right now and I would much rather keep our current weaknesses of condition removal and movement speed than have them “re-balance” mesmer abilities.

Why do people think their class should be able to do it all? Every class has to have a weakness, something it’s not as good at as other classes.

Mesmers have a hard time dealing with conditions. A hard time, not an impossible time. We have a lot of condition removal options, you just might have to give up a trait or utility slot to access them. That’s the way it should be.

Haha that was great

Xavi.6591:

Here is my variation of the WvW Blackwater condition build but with traveler runes. It works pretty well.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNArfWlwzKqHVTmGb9IipHBHyBckUUavWJF62FC-jQCBYhERj0CKjkIBKHqIaslhFRjVJTIVzATHLyeEYSBAx0I-e

This is what I run also – it’s awesome and I haven’t missed Perplexity runes at all.

I use the Blackwater build for roaming WvW and for a while I just dealt with being slow as molasses. I loved the build, but it was really frustrating being so slow. I was convinced that giving up perplexity runes would be too much of a handicap. Eventually I took the plunge and spent the 40g on a set of traveler runes and haven’t looked back. It’s awesome just for the quality of life improvement and the other bonuses synergize well with a condition/boon build. I definitely recommend it!

For PvE I use focus and centaur runes for swiftness. Kind of annoying having to constantly refresh it after getting used to travelers

colesy.8490:

I make one non-serious post on this subforum and then get called out on it.

I’m just highlighting the mentality of most players in this subforum, who know they’re running trash weapons, trash trinkets, trash armour, bad sigils, bad runes and a leech build and yet still insist on running it.

Mr filthy elitist colesy, I will play how I want and you can do nothing about it, watch as I make my parties suffer because I’m being carried, that’ll teach you!

Yikes. Somebody has some self esteem issues.

For the OP – our weapons are very situational. In my experience GS and sword/focus has been the most versatile and forgiving weaponset and I’d recommend starting there while you learn which encounters you can stay in melee range. Eventually you’ll get comfortable enough to switch out your GS for sword/sword or pistol on certain bosses. Again, it’s situational and blanket statements like “GS is a trash weapon” are plain wrong.

A 20/20/0/30/0 trait setup is a solid PvE build. Just take the phantasm, weapon cooldown and glamour traits and you’re good to go

Nilgoow.1037:

17 minutes of an anime cat running away.

Looks like somebody has their cranky pants on today.

Thanks for the video, Joe. Sorry about the troll.

Colesy answered your question then. Sword/sword and sword/pistol would be your highest single-target DPS weaponsets. Greatsword and sword/focus give good DPS (including AOE) and a whole lot of utility. If you’re looking to maximize your damage you’ll have to switch between them depending on the encounter.

Neat name, by the way.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

It was very good at 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 3+

So it’s good at everything except 1 vs 2?

You should be concerned that your name attached to a build makes people automatically disregard it. Create the content first, then post.

It doesn’t matter. Whichever race you like the look of the best.

Thank you, Pyro… and since I have your attention, a follow-up question:

I’m in love with the idea of retaliation and I was curious about how Phantasmal Defender works with the 5 point Inspiration minor trait (Vengeful Images). If I have retaliation on myself and also have a Phantasmal Defender out with retaliation, will a person attacking me receive retaliation damage from two sources? Or does one cancel out the other?

I hope that makes sense…

Couple of quick questions:

The 3rd attack in the scepter #1 chain, “Ether Clone”: description says that it “confuses your target.” So does it actually apply confusion or is that just poor wording?

Torch phantasm: description says it grants Retaliation to your allies. Does it also grant retaliation to yourself?

The whining is incredible. I suggest you all get jobs/lives outside of the game and then maybe you won’t feel compelled to “grind” out an ascended version of every weapon you have immediately.

“You mean I have to PLAY this game more to get a better item?! This is unacceptable, Anet is screwing me.”

To Anet: thank you for introducing some more progression I can work towards on my character, I like the fact that the materials for ascended weapons come from a variety of different game elements. I’m sorry for all the entitled children on this forum, but I’m sure you know they don’t represent the majority of players.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Is the retal worth it? I mean I think fury for phantasms are better in my opinion. But then this build will turn into Osicat’s Condition Cat build. I don’t know. If you can, explain something plz for me, cause I don’t think this build will be doing good against another PU build with fury on phantasms trait. If Im missing something, plz explain.

You’re missing the whole point. This isn’t a phantasm build, it’s a condition (on clone death) build. The retaliation synergizes perfectly because of how often you’ll be blocking attacks. You’re right – a PU phantasm build probably would be stronger in a 1v1 (and that’s highly dependent on the skill of the player), but this build is far superior in a 2v1 or 3v1 situation which is more common in WvW.

I used to run a PU phantasm build and it did feel strong, but also very boring and not very involved. I love the finesse of your build, Natsu – your opponents throw themselves at you and end up killing themselves to either retaliation or confusion. I feel much more in control of each encounter and love watching people panic when the area is flooded with clones while I pop in and out of stealth. Most people really seem to have no idea what’s damaging them and will resort to killing clones which only throws more conditions up on them.

It’s a great build and not something I would have thought would be so effective. Thank you for sharing.

Loving this build so much – at first I was concerned about the lack of swiftness/catching skills, but I haven’t noticed it too much.

I do have a question though, getting torment to actually apply to my target after blocking with scepter #2 only seems to happen about 50% of the time. I know an attack is blocked because I get the “block” GUI indication. Am I doing something wrong or is it buggy? The only possibility I can think of is maybe I’m blocking while I have Aegis active and that’s what I’m seeing.

ViRiD.2784:

These two abilities far too drastically influence our interaction with our main class mechanic, Illusions. They’re extremely restrictive to build creativity, and immensely overpowered in their effect on our ability to generation illusions.

I do not believe that their existence will ever allow mesmers to truly explore the diversity of their trait lines until they are removed, and mesmers are compensated for their loss.

You don’t know much about mesmers and it shows. Any phantasm build will exclude DE because clones will begin to override when 3 phantasms are up. I especially liked how you said phantasm builds are inferior to shatter builds – that’s such a nonsensical statement. What does “inferior” even mean in this context, because our strongest 1v1 build is a phantasm build.

I’d like to meet the mesmer who spanked you in PvP/WvW and shake his/her hand. I’m guessing you got confused because so many illusions were out. Here’s some advice – party up and call target on the mesmer as soon as you see him, then repeat that every time you get a bearing on him. Illusions are a class mechanic of ours, taking away traits that improve our ability to create them makes absolutely no sense.

Hey guys – I’m trying to find a build that can kill anyone 100% guaranteed. Could anyone point me in the right direction?

menace – it’d probably be appreciated if you did some research, became familiar with the already established builds and then did some testing on your own builds before throwing them up on the forum the moment you think of them. Honestly, your posts are just clutter and ignoring them doesn’t help because you bump your own threads repeatedly. If you weren’t so persistent I’d assume you were just trolling.

For those that came to this thread to actually find out what’s been discussed so far, here’s a link to Dulfy’s coverage:

http://dulfy.net/2013/08/31/gw2-pax-anniversary-bash-coverage/

I’d just follow that as this thread is pretty much just people complaining, as usual.

atheria.2837:

Frelli.5318:

I used to play a confusion mesmer in WvW before the flat out 50% nerf and I really miss that playstyle. I still have my rabid gear lying around in my inventory looking pretty.

With the +300 condi damage on scepter buff and the new runes, do you think it would be viable to try a WvW confusion build again for zerging purposes?

Post a full build so I can try it out – I haven’t seen a viable WvW mesmer build in the last month and NOW I am ready to finally try to play this nerfed mess.

Thanks.

Why do people post stuff like this? The dramatic, exaggerated claim of “nerfed mess” just comes off as whining.

If you haven’t seen a viable WvW build in the last month then you haven’t been reading the very forum you’re posting on. There have been numerous builds posted specifically relating to confusion and perplexity runes. Besides that – the PU phantasm build is still very much viable in WvW. It’s just irritating how quick people are to blame something other than their own lack of ability.

That was a great summary! Thanks for sharing