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@PAXA we had an epic 2v3 going until your zerg came along
I know you guys probably didn’t want the zerg to come as much as we didn’t, but I still wish they hadn’t come. Also if you ever want a 5v5 PM me while I’m on and I’ll see if I can get a group together. I so want a legitimate fight against you and the one time we started to get one your zerg came
Craig,
I think I remember that fight. That was more than a teal Zerg that was like a 40+ man on a map with 10 total (from all 3 servers) on it. Ridiculous. It’s not fun for us either man. Absolutely, would love to have teams that want to challenge us. What people don’t know about us is when you come at us with a legit competitive Attitude and do your best to win, we are the last people to talk kitten. It’s not an ego thing at that point for PAXA members. It is about healthy competition and fights… That should be the driving force in guild wars 2. Not Zerg to win cause you’re scared to lose. Time and place
Craig, well meet you tonight! What guild are y’all from?
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Sooo FC, how’d you like that farming at your EB keep
Thanks for all the loot. AND especially you DETH, you guys gave us such a laugh with how many times we wiped the floor with you with our pug zerg lol.
Here’s the shame ram we built in your honor, we named him cinnamon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7q3S99YSaM4
Just so everyone knows how you do with even numbers, no siege and no choke. Thanks for the bags.
WTB Aldix’s 5 man! lol, miss fighting you guys, would be alot of fun!
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When I go through that effort to type up a large comprehensive post and friendly post, only to get responded to by brief troll “Lol Umad?” style posts(See the rolls eye one I replied to for instance) by your members running on some delusion that I have some personal vendetta against your guild/get enraged over the slightest disadvantage, what do you expect?
Believe and claim what you want, as you have continued to do regardless.
You made that illusion up yourself. We didn’t think you had any beef with KoM at all. I simply stated that you ran away from our 1v1s. Then you got extremely agitated it seems, and created all this. Now we have a vendetta against you. Congratulations.
You do? ROFL wow, flattering to have an entire guild angry at me.
And yeah, I was annoyed that someone said I ran from 1 vs 1s when here is one of your own admitting he fought me and knowing full well I didn’t run. Furthermore you yourself saw my willingness to face you in a 1 vs 1 death, but said something later like “In the end it’d be ten 1 vs 1s.. simultaneously” or something like that, hinting that you had no interest in backing your statements, am I wrong?
now you’re like me with PAXA!
and yes lil homie is on drugs, this one time he tried to convince to do weed
Moobs its a shame you cant muster up a team to be competitive with. Would be more fun for both of us I think.
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Oh osif osif you must be mistaking me with yourself and your other zerglins, infact first logical flaw is that at times we have no keep or towers, and another logical flaw is i solo roam around camps , and I usually never run away unless its a 1v2 or 3 at most, usually i stand my ground. I’m sorry sir but I keep track of those who give me a fair fight for my money, I usually add them and they are usually nice people, I don’t care whether you are PAXA or PHZE or VLK, to me it is just a tag, I don’t let anyone piggyback on their guild’s tag, in fact i rather they show me their skills, if they win i accept defeat and i make a new friend who is better then me and I fight him / her because a challenge is fun, if I win i don’t pin them I add them to my friends list and we have another round, but as for others, even those who use towers such as your friends and use guards and always fail to kill only to run in at low hp, so my dear new friend, from mesmer to mesmer , ill see you around
<—- Whispers…“R u on drugs”?
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“he’s entitled to his siege”. This is why gw2 is failing.
I’d almost like to agree. Too bad you are PAXA
It the point about siege that matters, agreeing with our guild is pointless.
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@kyuzo
Considering KoM and PAXA have videos of 5 mans Rick rolling groups of 10-20 I don’t think we are looking for guaranteed wins. PAXA went 6v20 last night twice and won. Ask [PHZE] and [FKB] we did it right in front of them. I believe Hatasgonnahate said it before, “you act like you are PAXA’s only kill for the night 5v1”.
I think the difference is, that whenever you roll someone 5v1 they don’t make 5 paragraph posts on the forum about it.
Besides, you know as well as I that if you roll a group of 20 with 6 people they are clueless and probably mostly uplevels on a karma venture.
Yea were the first to admit the 20 man is Garbagio. Still Have to single target switch 15 times and Aoe the rest down. Not saying its some insurmountable feat just pointing out we don’t throw ourselves ONLY into guarantee able wins like my friend Francis tried pointing out. Gab itd be nice if some of the organized 20-30 mans could develop teams wanting even more challenge. It just simply isn’t very competitive
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It is beyond mildly embarrassing that we have fought ONE guild under 10 players this week. Graduate from zerg school already, challenge yourselves past relying on 15+ people to stay alive.
Welcome to WvW Tier 5, where a 15 man group is a small group – and in reality, the minimum numbers you need to be effective. Enjoy your stay!
Necessity has driven BP to adopt these group tactics and compositions. Understandably, our current opponents may not like group combat this size, and I guess that’s why you’ve chosen to stay on T7 servers. So I apologize that you’ve been forced outside your comfort zone – don’t get mad at BP, however, this is on ANet.
I can tell you’re not being malicious and I won’t be either. I don’t believe anyone has been forced to do anything as PAXA has fought all the same servers y’all have with all the same 40-50 mans and still get our 2-300 kills a night. Zerg school has no graduation plan in this game…. They want you’re tuition forever and for always, so why not stay in college?
Less than 5% of the total pvp population has graduated Zerg mentality. That’s pathetic. Even running with 15 you still end up using far fewer abilities than we are ever challenged with. And no one cares to put themselves in that much of an “uncomfortable situation” so Zerging continues.
Well, no offense, but my past experiences with PAXA have been that you like to get kills, but not necessarily play the WvW objectives games. Which – I think – may play into your notions of what has been forced upon you. That is to say, you never need more than 1 person to get some kills in WvW. However, if you wish to successfully defend a WvW objective against zergs of 30+, a small, coordinated group of 15 is highly effective and necessary to secure those objectives.
As I previously alluded, T7 is a great place to have small group combat since the zergs aren’t quite as big and/or prevalent. T5 is not – I frankly have not roamed solo for months, because I simply couldn’t accomplish much of anything without being chased down by 15 players that kept streaming out of their waypoint’d keep at us no matter how many times I killed them. (That and Warriors were nerf’d really hard for a time). Therefore, many of us felt in necessary to organize into larger, more effective fighting units.
We are continuing these tactics this week in order to get some more practice, and in anticipation of fighting bigger servers in the future. Thus, these smaller servers are at the mercy of our larger groups. And that’s something that I don’t think is fun for anyone – and that’s a problem that Anet has created with this odd randomization of match ups. The ironic thing is that when we fight a bigger server, our groups of 15 will be crying out to those servers to fight us with less than 30+ zergs
It’s a vicious circle!
I understand your personal wishes. My point is on a grand scale. This game is not breeding competition between players. It’s breeding coasting through a relatively simple environment. Less abilities, less classes, less Aoe cap, less reason for anyone to want to get better and out on their own as opposed to relying on the servers wvw population in order to fight red. My point is that every server has the 90% and higher majority ONLY Zerging as their form of fun. And there is a SUPER slow ( if any ) graduation rate from that form of mentality. Zerging is for new people and some who actually enjoy it as their casual way to play. In most mmos or at least successful pvp mmos, people eventually move on from Zerging to running in smaller but more coordinated groups. Not the case in GW2.
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I wouldn’t be sorry nor apologize for it Lorek, nor stop them. Pretty much all night my little group only had 4 (1 BSTY/2 NoQQ/1 AD) and at one point got up to 6. Numerous times we would be fighting small unit stuff or against a zerg only to be added in on by KOM and/or PAXA when fighting enemies. They didn’t hesitate to add in so you shouldn’t either. They continue the advocation for small man but no honor of honoring those that are fighting small man on their part so why should anyone honor leaving their small man fights alone on our side when they add in themselves all the time no matter the circumstances.
Again, you read into it the way you wanted to see it on the honor code. NEVER did I say there WAS an honor code in place. Just the opposite, I said there ISNTone in place and told my fellow (VP) people, who were trying to adhere to an honor code, to go ahead and attack since there wasnt a “CURRENT” standing agreement. Come on and get your rosé color glasses off and see it for what it is. I really don’t care if there is an honor code or not, kill or be killed is how I feel NO matter the numbers matchup when fighting on the field.
Since you vehemently exclaim there are no other small mans, besides the one you fought the other day, I don’t see the need for any such agreement. Continue business as usual.
Zizanzi (Stylii)
(NoQQ) LeaderThere’s nothing rose-colored about this, it’s simply called reading comprehension. You make the assumption that because we run in a small-man group there is an unwritten code that we should follow with other people doing the same. If you didn’t think so, you wouldn’t talk about us “advocating” that style of play, yet not adhering to some type of honorable fighting. And then you throw in another baseless claim that we add in all the time no matter the consequences. As if you would even know.
Are you really this hard to get through to on comprehension or do you have to practice to be that way? You are really having a hard time on this one for sure since the original post was TO the (VP) guild on our side saying there WAS NO code. No code for anything anywhere for any amount of people, none was expected. I know I will spell it out yet again, “There is NO code” none, zero, zilch. That is why I said to VP to go ahead and attack on any and all fights. Come on how hard can this be? Really…. sheesh.
Your track record of adding in so far that I have seen has been 100% on two different days during our current matchup. Pretty good record if I say so since the videos wont lie on that or our numbers that we were running yesterday. (You are correct on one point though, we run what we have, good job on that one ;-)
The rest of your paragraphs are just mundane points that have already been said numerous times and common knowledge. Nice of you to continue to beat the proverbial dead horse. But do continue we do like watching efforts in futility.
Zizanzi (Stylii)
(NoQQ)Nimue (Order of Shadow) 2001-2004
All good. Well continue to win fights by AJing your 5-6 “little group”. See you out there
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Which brings me back to my original point, “More skillful players in general will rely less on masses (subsuming them)”
And in GW2, thats not the case for the most part.
I would only consider myself “above average,” which will automatically mean my opinion is dismissed by those who consider themselves “elite.”
Either way, I get just as much satisfaction from solo roaming as I do running in a semi-organized zerg. Meaning, no voip or anything like that, just people who are mostly able to use combo fields without overlapping, stick together, interrupt heals, etc etc.
Overall though, I fail to see how playing against other players in one arena could yield a perspective where they are somehow significantly better across the board than another arena that has more dynamics and more possibilities. The actual skills themselves are pretty much the same in function.
The biggest difference is that organizing larger and larger groups of people becomes exponentially more difficult as the numbers of players in a given group rises.
Only thing I can think is thakittens confirmation bias (from both sides), all sustained by the fact that WvW inherently has more players and the higher likelihood of coming across someone who is new.
I would say the percentage of skilled vs new is the same, overall, in both T/SPvP and WvW. It just happens on a much larger, much less insular scale in WvW, which directly leads into coming across more people who do not know what they are doing.
Someone who takes a quick glance at either S/TPvP and dubveedub will likely come to the conclusion that one is somehow less skilled than the other.
Its quite funny either way!
Im not talking about satisfaction levels or fun….fact is that if there were MORE SKILL INVOLVED in playing wvw….you would see groups of less than the 15-20+. Skilled players that run in 10+ do so because there are 50 mans running around. If skill were more apparent in daily world vs world play, there wouldn’t be giant zergs as virtually the ONLY form of player vs player combat.
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