Guild Wars 2

Here is my guild (our normal 5 man + thief) taking on 15+, and being hit with an organized 4-6 man from NSP (XOXO b4 they went zerg) Thanks Ruprect.

Darek.1836:

wel it was really like 7 with a couple pugs but yeah very unfair

I wouldnt say very, t7 was very unfair, but just wasnt a contest. Rather have a contested fight where fight could go either way. Impressed you included having pugs. MAJORITY of guilds never admit there were pugs along side them.

Littlefeather.8623:

3-5 man teams: Some people are a little bit selfless and choose not to help their server I guess.

Lower tier fighting: can your guild leader have 20-30 people on him and out of a 45 min non stop battle (using siege, terrain, flanking, stealth, quick reaction) wipe a non stop 60 man force (T3 Yaks bend)? Which by the way was so much fun, and so many loot bags !

Can your commanders, while outnumbered, wipe away or even push back enemy zergs in T2?

Have any idea how much teamwork and organization this takes? Well not as much as lower tiers need I’ll say that much.

A “commander” leading 40-80 people who are ALL PRESSING 1 -2 SKILLS…….our 5 man uses 30-50 skills EACH in one fight….and win against 2/3/4x our number…..what is your argument for how building siege? coordinating 30 people to press 1 when hit by another zerg? spamming portal bombs and sitting on arrow carts make you hardcore at all…..like i said in previous post, “You carebears don’t even realize what hardcore pvp looks like”

Would have liked to fight the [SS] group last night but we were only 4 and they were about 10+. Looking forward to finding them with a couple less.

Truth of the matter is if any of you were true Hardcore style roaming teams and played to fight players and not worry about the pointless point system Anet has gotten all these PVE’ers to obsess about you would want out of where Zergs are and IN to where other skilled groups are.

“higher tiers are where the (skill) is at”…… Riiiiiiiighhhhhtttt. Why not do some exploring and actually find out b4 making ignorant comments. There are roaming guilds I know of oin the lowest tiers that would smoke a good portion of you “upper Echelon” boys.

Does anyone from FoE read this thread?

What’s funny is by reading this, anyone who has really competed on a true hardcore “elitest” platform knows 99% of you have never even seen what that looks like, let alone how to actually do it.

Gw2 community is literally like, "starter mmo here! Pvp for the first time today with just a download! Talk about your experience here (not your lack there of)!

If possible, would like to invite leaders of BS, FoE, SeT, WZ, SNKY, Deth, and any other small man groups that enjoy competitive pvp atmosphere in open worlds to our t8 pvp platform meeting this weds night at 930 est.

The meeting is to discuss making our pvp tier more enjoyable and mostly more competitive. Even if you feel your core is more casual it will be worth the time to hear what the small competitive guilds are discussing. Our goal is to shift focus daily to one or two maps (instead of all 4) to consolidate fighting, to promote more roaming / guild vs guild fights and fights up north, and also to have those two maps on a rotating system so it changes each day. We are also setting up a “guild pot” system so we can bring back the couple dedicated guilds that move due to server shift from the tier. This is our first official t8 meeting, just wanted to invite as many small competitive groups as possible.

For those guilds interested please PM me (either in game or on forums) and I will get you the PAXA vent info. Some of the guilds here already have it, get involved if you do not. Compared to any other tier, this is hands down already the most competitive as far as non-Zerging groups.

I would like to get ahold of someone who can rep FoE, BS, WZ, SeT, even SNKY so we can have more people on board with the competitive nature of our tier. Planning on hosting a meeting this weds night again probably 930 est to go more in depth about consolidating an making these fights more frequent (not via setups, more just funneling the guilds to a map or two a night)

I’d imagine there are some players in spvp in this game that only do the instance based fighting because it seems like the “only competitive” platform for player vs player.

My guild along with 6-7 other 5-man guilds decided to create an open world platform for small competitive skilled guilds.

We are building the system currently but plan on designating 2 maps (out of the 4) a night to have all the small mans focus on running to consolidate the fighting. We have also chosen t8 for two main reasons:
1. Smaller zergs (under 20)
2. LEast volatile tier. (Only one server will ever move at a time in tier shift while the other two remain constant)

We have a system set up to bring guilds on the server that changes out of the tier back as far as in game gold as well. If any of you are hardcore players looking for more open competitive play, check out the WvW “small man/havoc tier” thread and let us know. There are many people xfering there already and weve been working on this for a little over a week. Skilled open play still exists!

Play any class, if youre a zerger, every class has survivability.

Dont even need to learn the class, just know where the number 1 button is and the “F” button to res downed players.

@itwasntme

Dude,

Hands down this game is FULL (90%) of the entire population that is mmo’in for the first time. Their version of player vs player is taking keeps/towers, sitting on arrowcarts/trebs, and dueling in fight clubs.
Our guild has zero mercy, zero carebear tolerance. We salute you for smoking anyone you see at fight clubs for they are the 90%’s form of “player vs player”.

Maps are too small and the fact that 30% of every borderland is water is just wasted space. We need more open fields/ mountainous passes that can be used to gain/lose advantages in fights.

This isnt about game meta. We are using what Anet has given us, and going with different mindsets.

We’re inviting competitive players, teams, guilds. Youre welcome to continue playing zergwars 2. For anyone else that would rather not deal with 50 man zergs on every map, t8 is open for business!

We’re NA prime time focused. I can vouch for my guild, we’re not focused on off hours. We’re trying to set up a come home from work and fight more skillful players. Less people equals less Zerg. If you enjoy running on a map with 80 mans around, power to you. We have the opposite mindset.

Going to be holding another T8 havoc/small man meeting this week to discuss a weekly schedule of maps coinciding with the day specifically for the groups to run on to funnel the fighting. Also, to gets talks about “guild pots” and funding the guilds to return from a shifting tier. I will bring more details on time and place.

There is a solid amount of GW2 interest in this, so even if you are a solo player and want more hardcore fighting via small man action, plan on attending these meetings.

If any of you haven’t heard about our 5-8 man tier 8 platform please check out the small man/havoc thread. If you enjoy GvG and roaming at the same time
In open world pvp, the 6 5 man guilds currently in tier 8 and the 2 more joining us (legit crews that run 5-8 guild groups nightly) are in the process currently of creating a guild vs guild player vs player platform because Anet hasn’t.

Currently there is: KoM, PAXA, BS, FoE, WZ, Set, and Deth (OINK and Invi) are transferring to this tier this weekend.

We will be holding more meetings to solidify a platform I.e (which two maps per day that will be run on by all the small mans, every 5 man having a tier shift “pot” to pay to the guilds on the one server that changes to get them back, the group sizes and setting up semi-rules for AJing ect.).

If any of you enjoy a more hardcore approach to player vs player / GvG send me a pm or post here and we (as tier can help get you your guys down here for focused pvp.

Teivo you got mad because we caught you after a fight and you died instead of trollin urself away.

PS: my favorite part about you fanboi is that my cousin has absolutely rocked ur gimic builds in MOST of our fair fights. Thanks for your entertaining posts.

I mean bottom line is were going to have at least 6 guilds on 1 or 2 maps a night hunting each other. And building from there will only increase. We can take this wherever we want…. Can take it to whatever competitive level we want.

Were excited to have the new guilds, and have had PHENOM fights this week so far. Stoked to fight good players again.

Right on. Doors are open for competitive teams!

DanyK.3842:

My guild is almost unique in our tier so we try to adapt. Don’t think anyone else from EU would move to NA just for WvW when at nights they wouldn’t be able to vistit dungeons/god temples and other PvE… things. If you’re really looking for 8v8 or smaller fights you may as well get yourself a custom arena. As much as I’d love to fight you guys I don’t even think our builds and setup would be appropriate in equal number fights anymore :P
If you could maybe reach out to more EU players to get them interested so the matchup would be 24/7 GvG (group vs group), I’d seriously consider moving especially because some of us already complained about the pointless skill1 lagfest fights even in t4 now. It is pretty hard to find fights as it is atm, don’t know if groups like us even exist in this tier anymore :/

Yea tell other EU guilds 5 mans/small mans to head here. Would love for their to be EU guilds that run ur prime time and NA guilds that run ours all on our tier.

Danyk,

If you know some other small roaming guilds in EU, tell them we are creating a platform for pvp in t8. They are welcome to come here as well. It will be a conducive environment for people that WANT to fight other players with the same intentions of killing them.

ErlendR.6107:

Lukian Darkblade.8012:

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I just laughed so hard watching this. Thanks. HILARIOUS!

Thanks to all those guilds that were in the meeting tonight. So far [OINK] and [Invi] will be making the move to what we are trying to create as the competitive tier for small man teams.

Any guilds or people interested in discussing consolidating hardcore players into t8 PM me in game or on the forums.

Dude, put this in WvW channel. Same thing

And plan on coming to t8, we are recruiting small man hardcore guilds to t8.

small man fighting. 5 man guilds, player vs player. What youre looking for.

Runamok.9638:

OK matchup talk…play by play.

Well last night was fun in ET BL. From 7-10:30 EST. Man AC’s kill golems at bay. Push HoD out of ET BL. Defend feint attack on ET Keep in EBG. Go back to ET BL. Fail to defend breakout at Briar since everyone stayed in EBG. ET militia floods back in builds trebs in Vale camp. HoD builds AC’s in Briar. We let HoD hold Victors camp forever it must have been hours…so they had good supply lines. Fun open field fighting over the trebs for a while on two fronts. ET breaks Briar walls runs in and stands in massive AC fire and dies. HoD kills trebs. PAXA ninjas Cliffside. Props to PAXA I just figured you guys roamed around killing stragglers all day. Had no idea you played objectives. HoD attacks hills bust through outter FoE defense reponds(thanks guys!) an defends Hills. PAXA busts outter Garrison…we had 1 other person there….but finally gets wiped before getting setup on inner. I went to sleep…HoD takes Hills…and prolly Bay too as I started upgrades there as well this AM. What I am seeing as a pattern is that ET has more EST and HoD seems to have much better PST. And Ferg is just Ferg. Our partners in T8 crime. ET…moar cowbell and tons of arrow carts in Briar…ok guys.

We logged after that because the ONLY people to fight in WvW was your dumb zerg that ran around as a mindless blob. Couldn’t possibly break off and do seperate things, must follow the one true blue dorito. Edit: that makes everything else so boring GW2 isnt worth playing.

PS: The night b4 last, 5 KoM and 5 PAXA rick rolled 25-30 TAC and company at south camp…..wait a minute….5+5 = 10 WTF?

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Gab Superstar.4059:

No, you talk down to us like we are sub-par because the amount of people we enjoy running with increased, even though you were on equal footing with us back in T6.

Yup, their whole push to create a “small man tier” is going to flop magnificently as they progressively alienate 90% of the groups that would be interested in it. they’re always ready with their laundry list of reasons why everyone is inferior to them, and they need to continuously point it out to all of us.

Case in point: T7 is finally rid of them and he’s still coming to troll our match-up thread.

Like you do in our threads?

Dude, we could switch back today if we wanted to and you cant do a single thing about it. TFG…lol

Dank said I was trying to recruit your 3 guilds to our tier. I simply said once I figured out you guys run 3 guilds together like some other guilds we know I lost interest immediately. Guess I didn’t make that clear enough.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Jscull.2514:

dank.3680:

Gab Superstar.4059:

dank.3680:

Jscull.2514:

Hah good read. Bunch of zergers crying about being zerged. That’s about right. As soon as you lose, you change maps and or find the zerg, sounds like a classic gw2 “small man”

Nobody cares about you.

Though I’ll have to say how funny it is if you manage to recruit AD/NoQQ/Btsy to your little small man tier adventure.. Then find out they run with the zerg far more then any XOXO ever did, and also when they “small man” it’s never less then 15.. Can’t wait to hear you cry about that.

-Nothing against your group AD/NoQQ/Btsy – Too bad we didn’t run into you when we had more XOXO/SPCA/SPLT around yesterday though, not much we could do with the little group we had.

We never run with less than 15? Now that is a blatant lie and you probably know it. Exaggerating numbers to serve your points is not going to help you when the people who know the actual facts are in the same thread as you.

Besides, we did run into some sort of SPCA / XOXO / Splt group this Sunday, and I definitely do not remember it as being particularly lopsided in their favor, even though we only outnumbered them by one or maybe two people.

Oh, and yes. I zerg all the time. In fact I consistently command the zerg. Isn’t it funny, how people can have different interests within the same game? ;P

I wasn’t trying to call out AD/NoQQ/Btsy. I even said “-Nothing against your group AD/NoQQ/Btsy”. I was making a jab at PAXA because they’ve been trying to recruit you guys to their ‘small man tier’ and would cry a river if they ever saw you run more then 8, or ever seen one of you in a zerg.

Yes we’ve had some good fights with 10-15(+ pugs) of your group and 10-15(+pugs) of us and it was great fun. This was already addressed though and I’m prob only seeing you at your prime running time when you are altogether, but like I said other then a couple times I saw Btsy-solo/duo I never see you guys without the full group (which is 10-15 or more / pug tagalongs). Which is fine, and I never said any harsh words against that.

I stopped asking those guys to come run against real opponents when I found out they run in a 3 guild group. Pretty much same reason we didn’t want to be in t7.

Which would imply AD didn’t smash you guys way back in T6 before ADQQSty was a thing.

And I think you stopped asking us to come run against “real opponents” when we said we wouldn’t move.

AD beat us once and we gave them credit. You switched tiers and haven’t been around to fight since…. Ask oozo, I’ve asked numerous times. “were just gonna do our 3 guild thing”….. Didnt know losing once and then also beating you counted as smashing us. At least I understand your terminology.

dank.3680:

Gab Superstar.4059:

dank.3680:

Jscull.2514:

Hah good read. Bunch of zergers crying about being zerged. That’s about right. As soon as you lose, you change maps and or find the zerg, sounds like a classic gw2 “small man”

Nobody cares about you.

Though I’ll have to say how funny it is if you manage to recruit AD/NoQQ/Btsy to your little small man tier adventure.. Then find out they run with the zerg far more then any XOXO ever did, and also when they “small man” it’s never less then 15.. Can’t wait to hear you cry about that.

-Nothing against your group AD/NoQQ/Btsy – Too bad we didn’t run into you when we had more XOXO/SPCA/SPLT around yesterday though, not much we could do with the little group we had.

We never run with less than 15? Now that is a blatant lie and you probably know it. Exaggerating numbers to serve your points is not going to help you when the people who know the actual facts are in the same thread as you.

Besides, we did run into some sort of SPCA / XOXO / Splt group this Sunday, and I definitely do not remember it as being particularly lopsided in their favor, even though we only outnumbered them by one or maybe two people.

Oh, and yes. I zerg all the time. In fact I consistently command the zerg. Isn’t it funny, how people can have different interests within the same game? ;P

I wasn’t trying to call out AD/NoQQ/Btsy. I even said “-Nothing against your group AD/NoQQ/Btsy”. I was making a jab at PAXA because they’ve been trying to recruit you guys to their ‘small man tier’ and would cry a river if they ever saw you run more then 8, or ever seen one of you in a zerg.

Yes we’ve had some good fights with 10-15(+ pugs) of your group and 10-15(+pugs) of us and it was great fun. This was already addressed though and I’m prob only seeing you at your prime running time when you are altogether, but like I said other then a couple times I saw Btsy-solo/duo I never see you guys without the full group (which is 10-15 or more / pug tagalongs). Which is fine, and I never said any harsh words against that.

I stopped asking those guys to come run against real opponents when I found out they run in a 3 guild group. Pretty much same reason we didn’t want to be in t7.

In no game should 5-8 people wipe 10-30 people. But it happens in this game. Should we be impressed by people who get wiped by 5-8? Legit question?

Sorry but running anything over 8 in this game just isn’t impressive. You can wipe 25-30 with 8 people, anything over that number just jacks through the roof, and the number of skills used per player drastically decreases. We’re inviting guilds that want to participate in actual player vs player. You know using more than one weapon, building groups around specific players, coordinating push and pulls, nope…. Over your head.

Hah good read. Bunch of zergers crying about being zerged. That’s about right. As soon as you lose, you change maps and or find the zerg, sounds like a classic gw2 “small man”

Xsorus,

If you are tired of fighting bad players who ONLY Zerg, we are hosting a meeting tonight about getting all or most of the small man / 5 man guilds to t8. We want real player vs player…. Not pvdoor, not “here’s the zerg, let’s go sit on a cannon or ac for an hour”, straight up roaming to kill other players.

I’m talking running small numbers and avoiding your OWN Zerg so what you fight isn’t (for the most part) ruined by your own adds.

If you are interested in this, send me a PM and I’ll get you info for the voice meeting.

Someone call XOXO !

If you dont like zerging and the crap of 20-40 guys running around using the #1 button and killing everything, come down to T8, small man tier. 5mans run around every night. Consider it man. Bring your guild. We fight REAL player vs player….none of this player vs door crap and “who can get the most points”…its about pvp down here.

airstu.2579:

Jscull.2514:

Were in t8 not dealing with overconfident zerging “all stars”

No one cares. Have fun buried forever in t8 and away from our forums.

Or else what? Lol

Darek.1836:

I think 300×3×5 for every nade throw would hurt more than passive regen but maybe we were dodging it or you weren’t hitting all of us. And we don’t run in the same area really.. Recerly we’ve been trying to ninja towers and keeps so we don’t roam as much, and sometimes we only get 2 players on at a time lol. I think today were gonna roam a bit more than normal.

I think well give you guys a good run for your money. Well def be more
Interesting than ninjaing towers

Where does SSrun? We hit every map last night in NA prime time. Didn’t see any SS.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Marcol.2349:

It seems GoM is the new IoJ butttt at least nsp have enough to keep them occupied, for the most part in oceanic times.
At least prime time is a pretty even playing field.
I personally would like to see all of these “boss roaming groups” that DR seems to talk about. All I’ve been witness to so far is unorganized 4-12 man fights which are by all means not bad but I wanna see the big baddies more

There’s a few things I’d like to say about this match up though… :
Not as much trash talk as I’d like & or I’m accustomed to
Needs more LOLUMAD/BAD
The most important…. GIFs and memes!!!!!!!! WHUR DEY AT SON!?

I end my piece with a simple yet eloquent
GET@ME BADZ!!!!!!

Yeah, this match-up seems lighter on the roaming groups than what I was hoping for. Even a few of our old foes from NSP that we were looking forward to fighting again seem to be sitting in zergs more and roaming less. I did manage to get a good 1v1 with a Btsy and a 2v2 with those EDGE guys, but that’s about it. Everyone else seems eager to duck into guards or their zerg at the first sign of trouble.

Still hoping to catch Oozo’s crew out in the field and see how we stack up against them. And XOXO/SPCA… where y’at? I miss PAXA

Were in t8 not dealing with overconfident zerging “all stars”

Darek.1836:

Maybe we can do some 5v5 or less with PAXA. I know KoM is
good (could be argued just because they run 2 OP
HGH engis) but I’d like to see how good PAXA is too.

PAXA would def love more challenges! If [SS] is interested we are hosting a server wide vent meeting tmrw night with 5/small man guilds across all tiers to discuss bringing real pvp to t8. Let me know if you are interested and ill get you the info.

It’s about pvp for us. Having more of the same guilds on the same sever does zero good. So the plan is to split as evenly as possible the guilds interested in fighting onto all 3 servers.

For all of those interested in the tier wide havoc/small man tier creation meeting post here or send me a pm for info. We are planning on having our first voice chat meeting
Tomorrow to get the ball rolling at 9:30 EST. we can discuss who has real interest and what people are looking for in their “small mans” pvp.

Looking forward to having people who like to kill players in game and not doors on the same BL as us.

Our 5 man hit 25-30 ET last night at the south camp with the [KoM] 5 man which lasted about 3 minutes. Good show boys.

@[BS],

Thanks for being best competition weve seen in a couple months. I don’t know if you guys have checked out our thread to get small mans to tier8, but would be awesome to have your support to get some guilds here, so that what we did tonight could happen regularly in all BL’s without setting it up.

BS can you have one of your leaders PM me on the forums? Would appreciate it.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Jscull.2514:

6. Realize there are 22-44 noobing morons following a blue Dorito

“They don’t play like we want them to play, therefor we must insult and berate them at every opportunity.”

I’m sure this “small man tier” initiative will go quite smoothly driven by your charm and warm personality. After all, surely everyone will commit to sticking to your exceedingly narrow view of “acceptable game play”.

Once you graduate from Zerging and casual gameplay you’ll understand why we play and feel the way we do. Not here to casually press 1. We actually enjoy losing to players better than us, and working to beat them.

Beating 20 with 5-8 is impressive and usually full of mostly up levels and new pvpers, but not as impressive as killing a 5-6 man of Better players than your own group due to focus and coordination.

Talentless and I’s goal is not to charm any of these guilds…. I’m not trying to become best friends… We want better competition more regularly. Tough concept.

Where has BS been? We have come across only a couple of you guys? Pretty sure you will give us our best challenge so were keepin an eye out.

The more people we have in attendance to the meeting the better we can determine what is best. I can honestly say I run with the same 5-7 guys every night. We have found that its taken us about 3-4 months of THE SAME zerging crap to become extremely bored especially when it’s those same people talking smack on the forums after 40 of them killed 3/5 of our team.

We can talk about it more in the meeting, but the reason a mass xfer to t8 makes most sense is 2 major reasons…
1: server volatility. Only ONE server will ever be in question of moving shifting the dynamics of the tier. Obviously we will develope a system to bring that servers guilds back.
2: the zergs are just smaller. 20-30 mans as opposed to the impossible to even play on the map and enjoy even 5 minutes of being logged in 40-80 mans. Smaller zergs equal more space on each map to run into 5-10 mans roaming.

Like I said before, talentless and I understand the inconvenience of this exodus / xfering…. But it will ultimately prove LESS an inconvenience than the following:
1. Log on
2. Form ur guild grp
3. Build stacks for 3 minutes
4. Take south camp
5. Check out swords on a tower
6. Realize there are 22-44 noobing morons following a blue Dorito
7. Kite said noobing morons for 5-8 kills
8. Watch your stomps brought back to life in under 27 seconds total
9. Kite the fully revived 22-44 noobing morons to your spawn
10. Have 1-2 guildies go down during kiting
11. Realize these are the only red players (for the most part) on every server and every tier with a few exceptions
12. Log off in under 15 minutes due to terrible Wvw mechanics and non-hardcore mentality in 99% of the gw2 community.

It’s not just 5 man. were inviting 5 mans, 10 mans, just guilds that feel that player vs player is more important than the pointless point system. We want to fight players, not npcs and doors.

This tier is going to be created for that environment. People that primarily run 10 or fewer. 5 mans as well.