Guild Wars 2

This is what happens when Anet limits daily options for each game mode and tries to force people into a mode they don’t want to play. You get a bunch of people in PvP that couldn’t care less but just want to get their dailies done.

My fire, demon themed Mesmer

Sturm Medik.1569:

Taygus.4571:

so you’re relieved to take choice from other players because you couldnt say “hey, why am I doing this, this isnt how I want to play”.

Thats nice.

I am relieved for myself, because now I have more time to do what I like.

They put a cap on total daily achievement points for people like you.

Sturm Medik.1569:

I guess I was one of those “AP zombies” – trying to get all those “free” points. Didn’t even have time/energy to play the game after I was done with that kitten .

We thought that was enough but now we get this mess with a lot of less choices for the everyday player to play as they like if they want their daily. No thank you Anet. No thank you.

melodyca.8921:

PVP actually is not difficult at all. Its just finding a game that is not full elitist jerks that is difficult. Check the PVP browser list to see if someone created a “Dailies Only” game.

Im only rank 14 in PVP and considered very casual and so far I have not come across too many bullies.

It doesn’t have anything to do with it being difficult or not. It has to do with Anet trying to usher players into game modes they don’t enjoy. I consider myself a fairly decent player, at least on my Mesmer, and could probably hold my own in PvP. The thing is, I can’t stand PvP and nothing Anet can do is going to change that fact. PvP players don’t want people like me in PvP because we will be disinterested and just do the absolute minimum to get our daily and leave.

The big issue is the lack of options now on the daily, this affects PvE players and PvP players. In the old system there were more options for both game modes. Now everyone is limited in their choice.

Fluffball.8307:

JustTrogdor.7892:

Fluffball.8307:

Examples of new dailies now available in PvP (assuming they still exist):
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That’s nice and all but some people don’t want to PvP.

So don’t. There are only 2 dailies specifically for PvP! I’m giving an example of how you can accomplish the daily in any of the 3 modes.

You don’t get it. Myself and many others in this thread PvE only. Now instead of being able to pick 5 out of 10 options to do we only get 5. If we don’t like one or two out of those 5 for whatever reason we are either forced to play a game mode we don’t want or miss out on the daily. Before we had much more choice because there were 10 options. Sure dailies can be achieved across modes, but that is the problem for those that don’t want to PvP or WvW. It is a step back and it seems apparent that Anet is trying to force game modes on people. “Hey, Play PVP!” “Really, Play it! You’ll like it!” “Oh you did and don’t like it? Well, hey now play PvP!” “Seriously! We want you to play PvP and WvW even if you don’t like it!” “Look, if you want this then PvP!”

Fluffball.8307:

Examples of new dailies now available in PvP (assuming they still exist):
-snip-

That’s nice and all but some people don’t want to PvP, or WvW and those that don’t want to do so should not be funneled into it just because Anet wants them to. In your example PvP players have an advantage because they can also achieve things like daily dodger and condition remover while in PvP. PvE players don’t have that luxury. I can’t kill 50 mobs or do PvE events and get credit for Daily Player Kills or Daily Matches Played for example.

It would be nice to see a red post on this given the impact this change has on all of us. I’m not expecting it but hey I can dream. LOL

This thread has over 6000 reads. So for all you lurkers, you need to speak up about how you feel regarding this change. ;P

Maynolds.1539:

Anet, are u thinking to do something to stop people running away with weapons skills? combats haven’t got any drop of honour. cowards just run away until u made a mistake

O_o

Personally I hope they are not available again. Part of having them is knowing that I took part in the living event to get them. I went out of my way to get them and played when they were available. These types of skins have more value because of that. Perhaps there will be a different skin later on you will like more.

Fluffball.8307:

I’m going to go ahead and guess they have numbers backing up that people who try new game modes tend to continue playing those game modes. People tend to shy away from PvP, WvW and dungeon running because they’re scared they won’t know what they’re doing and people will scream at them. Once you realize it’s not complicated at all, people stick around. That’s been my experience based on anecdotes, I’m sure Anet has more than enough stats or they wouldn’t have changed it.

Also, it seems they will always offer a selection of dailies that can be completed in any game mode. For example today I played 3 PvP games and finished all 5 dailies. Things like dodger, daily kills, leveler, etc., can be completed in PvP.

Many of us have played all game modes. That doesn’t mean Anet should try to force us to do them when we don’t like them. This goes for everyone, PvE, PvP, WvW. The new system is trying to force our hand. It is trying to funnel players into game modes they would not normally do. And for what? Do PvP players really want people that don’t like PvP on their teams? Do WvW players really want people that don’t care for WvW taking their spot in the queue? I think not. I don’t PvP but if I did I would not be a fan of having a bunch of players that couldn’t care less on my team just to get their dailies.

If Anet really wants to promote different game modes they should do more to make them interesting and wanted by players that like that particular style of play. Trying to force people into it is the wrong answer.

bigtimetopbanana.9725:

Who creates/updates the dailies table on the Wiki, because that is now out of date, given that gathering is off the rotation?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Daily/Table

Players update the Wiki. However, daily gathering is not out of the rotation. In fact it is in today’s achievements. It just isn’t everyday like it was.

One concern I have is with dailies like Mystic Forge. If I want my 5 PvE for the day and that is in the achievements I’m going to have to toss items into the forge just to get it or else do PvP or WvW. I don’t like the idea of having to burn my resources to get my daily or else go play a game mode I don’t like. Sure I can buy some cheap stuff and toss them in the forge but my point is I shouldn’t be forced to spend gold, burn resources just to get my daily done in PvE.

With the old system when things like Mystic Forge came up it was no big deal. I either got it because there were items I wanted to forge or I could select one of the many other daily options that didn’t involve burning resources just to get a daily.

Garrisyl.7402:

Teutos.8620:

Really love the new daily. I can finish it during playing only SPvP, PvE or WvW – or if I want, I can really mix it up!

This is the point. You can’t finish Daily by playing only one mode anymore. You are forced to mix it up.

Well to be fair you can still do the PvE daily without going to PvP or WvW. It is just that the options are now extremely limited and you may be more forced to do PvE achievements you don’t care for as opposed to having a wider selection. With the previous system things came more naturally through game play and we had more choices of what 5 you wanted to do. Now we just have 5 (6 if you include dungeon) with no choice.

This affects PvP only players as well and even more so because they are indeed forced into PvE/WvW because there are not even 5 PvP options.

Well, the TP has been working for me for the most part. I have some problems when I open it away from the actual TP NPC. It won’t load and thus doesn’t allow me to sell things or order things while out and about like I used to be able to do. Other times while at the TP NPC I have to switch back and forth between sell, buy, and such before the other screens will load.

I feel bad for those that can’t get it to work because there are freebies in the gem store they are missing out on. Today it was a magic find booster. During the patch it was free charges and before that other free boosters and such. They all missed out on this and I think that is very unfortunate.

MrRuin.9740:

Its funny how the majority of those complaining are PvE purists when WvW and PvP players lost far more of their dailies (PvP players lost…what? 4 of 6 dailies specific to PvP?)

I think it is just more PvE people speaking up here. Most of us are well aware that the new change negatively affects PvP players as well. The only group this new change really helps out is the achievement point hunters/addicts/leaderboard types. I’m not sure how many of them there are because I don’t have access to the data but I’m willing to bet they are a very very small group compared to the rest of the player base.

Doggie.3184:

I thought they were keeping all the daily amounts and just making both pve n pvp ones count towards the 5/5. Being wrong makes me sad.

That is what I thought as well. I thought the cap on total dailies achievement points was something they did for the achievement point hunters. After that I knew they were going to merge the PvP and PvE dailies into one but I didn’t imagine they were going to cut our options dramatically. They seem to taken it a bit too far.

Redead.3016:

Because the system is clearly flawed if it will not cost to dye your armor. Also causes much confusion.

Maybe for you. I give up on you at this point. It really isn’t confusing. Good luck with your dyes.

Redead.3016:

I understand basic math. Thanks

Then why do you keep questioning it?

Redead.3016:

Wow people keep telling me its 0. Yes I understand that but if I am only dyeing my armor why would it keep saying 0 if future charges are not going to be applied later. That is just stupid.

Because 0 = 0

0 does not equal +1 or later or whatever. Look, don’t worry about it. Your dyes are free. Trust us.

Sounds like your account got hacked and looted. If you filed a support ticket already that is all you can do at this point.

Redead.3016:

So why does it ask to charge each time you dye your armor if the system is free. Yes I clearly see its 0 now but why say charge?

It doesn’t. If you select a new dye you will see it says “0” charges. Just try it. What do you think “0” charges means anyway?

Redead.3016:

Free—Transmutation Charges!
As part of the Black Lion support for the Wardrobe, we’re happy to provide each account with five free Transmutation Charges! Act quickly – you only have until 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday April 16 to pick up your free charges!

Per Arenanet. It will be chargeable soon.

WTF are you on about? I thought you were wrongly complaining about having to spend charges to dye armor? If so, yep you are wrong. All dye changes are free. Try it for yourself.

Doesn’t cost anything to dye armor. Please read up before posting.

I hope they will reconsider the new daily system, and not just cater to achievement point hunters and leaderboard fanatics. I thought the cap on dailies was for them but Anet made it worse.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Only-10-Daily-Achivements/

With the changes to achievements and such I think they are trying to funnel PvE players into PvP and WvW.

“Hey look over here! It’s PvP!”

“Wait you were not looking hard enough! It’s WvW also! You’ll love it I swear!”

“No really! Over here! PvP and WvW!”

“Try it!”

“Oh, you did, and don’t like it, well, hey over here PvP and WvW! Try it!”

“Try it now!!!!”

As a PvE player it isn’t my fault that PvP isn’t as popular as Anet may want it to be. Trust me, PvP players don’t want me there anyway so there is no point in trying to drive me in that direction.

Lord Kuru.3685:

My guess: they’ll be selling those Level-to-20-instantly scrolls soon in the gemstore.

Level to 20 instantly still doesn’t do much, no trait points. It doesn’t take long to level to 20 anyway.

synk.8762:

Completely disappointed in this change. To move to less options for players and call it a feature is backwards thinking. Honestly, if Anet wants to motivate people to try new game modes, they need to incentivize those modes with overall rewards – which they did do to some extent with this patch. They’ll get players that hadn’t tried those modes in there, and some of them will stay. Mission accomplished.

But taking what is supposedly an activity that everyone, everywhere can enjoy and try for, and then shoving players into modes they don’t care for to try to complete a basic activity that supposed should appeal to everyone is terrible.

This isn’t jut about only having 5 options per mode. There are some people that loath jumping puzzles and will never do them. There are some people who will never participate in the Daily Activities. Some people will enjoy and do all those things, but by taking away options, you’re reducing the overall ability of people to work towards and enjoy what has become a basic function in the game, and a reason for many people to log in.

Please revisit this Anet. It’s a bad decision.

Well said. +1

Djinn.9245:

Instead of me playing every day, I’ll be going back to what I did before they increased the number of Dailies: login and see if there are Dailies I want to do. If not, log out unless there is some Living World stuff I want to do.

But hey those achievement point hounds and those obsessed with the leaderboard are happy. I’m really confused because I thought the cap on daily achievements was for them. They seemed happy with that news. I didn’t expect it to go another level that affects the majority.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I am no fan of the reduced Daily options, but today, there are 5 PvE Dailies, not just 4.

Leveler
Recycler
Daily Events
Daily Dodger
Daily Gatherer

Plus, Dungeon Completer for those that enjoy Dungeons.

Let’s be accurate with our information, at least. =)

Well, I’m not sure how the other PvE dailies will pan out but if we are going to be limited they need to remove things from the rotation that force us to spend/use resources for those PvE dailies such as:

Mystic Forgesmith
Recycler
Daily Crafter

PvE dailies if so limited should be based on in game play that doesn’t require using resources to achieve since we are limited to 5. I don’t like the idea that I might have to mystic forge a bunch of stuff I don’t need to just to get my 5th for the day or else play PvP or WvW.

Also, personal story completer should be taken out of the table as well since some have already done their personal story.

Lyssia.4637:

I don’t generally do PVP, and I can’t imagine anyone in PVP would really want me there anyway, as I have little experience, no interest, and even less skill, not to mention an old machine and laggy internet.

Yeah, I can’t imagine that the PvP crowd is going to be happy with a bunch of PvE, as they call them, “carebears” taking up spots in PvP with little to no interest in actual PvP. It makes no sense really.

This change reads to me like Anet is trying to appease the few achievement point hunters and leaderboard fanatics instead of the majority. I thought they did that with the new cap on daily achievements, but they went one step too far IMO.

Erick Alastor.3917:

Works as intended. It’s a way to force you to try different game modes.

Force being the key word. Okay not entirely forced but I am not going to play game modes I don’t enjoy just for a daily. It isn’t going to happen and it is a bad idea. Why does Anet want to try to force my hand to do something I don’t enjoy? If I enter a game mode I don’t like just to get an achievement am I really going to try? No, I’m just going to do the absolute minimum just to get it over with and leave. This happened all the time with the daily activity achievements. You saw people just standing around waiting for the timer to end and not contributing. Does Anet really want people in PvP, WvW that are just taking up space for their achievement? I can’t see where that will help those who enjoy those game modes.

Don’t care for this new change to the daily. I can see where it appeases the achievement hunters and leaderboard fanatics. For the rest of us, most likely the majority, it is a negative change. No matter how much Anet tries, I’m not going to be funneled into game modes I don’t like just for a laurel.

Nice try but the only people that this probably affects are new players that started today and those few that deleted all their stones they got from map completion. I don’t know about you but I’m sitting on over 70 charges after converting my stones and crystals. Keep going on about greed and trying to abuse the player base all you want but for the majority it is just an extra 5 charges. Nothing more, nothing less. I guess next you will go on about how there are more hot dogs in a pack than buns and what a conspiracy it is to get you to buy more buns. Let me know if you think that is the case and I’ll break down the history of that for you.

Mungrul.9358:

If they were being honest and not trying the tempt you into spending money, they’d have given you 12.

Or they could have given none which probably would have resulted in more sales.

Mungrul.9358:

I notice they didn’t give you an amount divisible by the number of gear slots. It’s one of the lowest, most common tactics used by cynical money grabbers who regard their customers as nothing more than wallets to be fleeced.
By doing this, they’ve ensured that you will buy gems to get the extra charges necessary for your second full transmute.

All those stones you probably have from map completion can be changed to charges at 3:1 by clicking them. Any crystals you may have can be as well at 1:1. Plus charges will still be rewarded for map zone completion from what I have read. I seriously doubt most players will only have 5 charges after converting stones/crystals and getting the 5 free. But if you want to go on about greed, have at it. Your type cracks me up.

You get 5 and you get them by going to the gem store. You will see them right there front page, 5 for 0 gems.

I have one stone left after conversation. No big deal. I’ll let it sit in the bank for a week or so just in case but will most likely end up deleting it.

I made Volcanus last week and transmuted it onto a great sword because, well you know the stats. It isn’t showing up on my weapon wardrobe. I unequipped it and equipped it again it. Anyone know how to fix this?

Nick.6972:

Dahkeus.8243:

Nick.6972:

Are you ready?
Because who needs new armor obtainable in game via playing the game ithout using the gem store.

or, you know, obtain it in game by converting gold to gems.

Because who needs new armor obtainable in game via playing the game without using the gem store.

I’m sorry to see that you don’t know how to earn gold in game to get optional items from the gem store you want. It seems after reading many of your posts the “gem store is evil” button on your keyboard is worn out and boring at this point. I suggest you buy a new keyboard and learn how to make gold. Or you can keep mashing that button and continue to bore the heck out of all of us.

There are way more armors available in game as opposed to the gem store by a long shot. Of course the gem store armors are available in game as well via gold to gems.

steve.1850:

I sent a few tickets, spaced evenly 3-4 days apart, but I have no gotten any answer

You should only submit 1 support ticket. Additional tickets can slow down response. If you have not received an answer to your original ticket within 3 days you need to post it in this thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Tickets-for-Review-3-days-older-Part-2-merged/

Also make sure you are checking your junk mail folders for responses from Anet.

I think people are hammering the forum at the moment watching for update news related to the 4/15 patch. So it is causing this error and slowing the forum to snail speed even when it loads.

It is approaching lunch time Anet time. Here is what I imagine is going on, just a guess. A lot of morning meetings and prep, QA stuff and so forth. Now a group team lunch in house to discuss ongoing concerns and address all questions from Anet staff members from all disciplines to ensure everyone is on the same page. Post lunch, prepare for the patch. Within an hour or two after lunch patch goes live.

Xbon.9086:

Solstice.1097:

Xbon.9086:

SaltyDave.7346:

Ryoki Hokishami.2756:

Shadowbane.7109:

It’s almost noon here…
sucks to be in Europe right now :/

These topics happen every patch day. I don’t understand it. You guys know Anet is based in the western US, this should be nothing new.

According to the said ANet, one of them posted the exact time when the patch should go live, and that time passed ~20 minutes ago.

No anet employee posted when it should go live; if they did, provide a quote.

HOWEVER, The window for getting the 5 transmutation charges gets smaller every minute, and in 4 hours, you risk having timezones without any ability to get them whatsoever because they’ll be asleep/at work/etc.

what? no matter what time the patch goes live today, the window to get your stones will be minimum 24 hours.

no; the time to get the charges was stated to end on april 16.

Yes 11:59 PM April 16, 2014 Pacific Time U.S., which is still 36 hours from now time of this post.

To get you started with this new system, we’re giving away five free Transmutation Charges per account to everyone who logs in between the launch of the Feature Pack and 11:59 p.m. PT Wednesday, April 16! Visit the Promotions tab in the Gem Store to check out this and other offers!

Kuzzi.2198:

It’d be nice if we were given some time frame. I could’ve gone to work for half a day.

And if they gave people a specific time frame and it got delayed due to technical reasons everyone would be flipping out even more. Actually they gave us a time frame, April 15th Pacific Time, US. There is your time frame and they are still in it. You should have gone to work.

EFWinters.5421:

Is it just me or does it not seem more logical to release the patch as soon as they get into their offices in the morning? That way they can spend the entire day fixing the myriad of bugs that arrive with all of their patches.

Or maybe, and I’m just basing this on personal production experience yet not game related, you do something like this:

Everyone arrives at work. You have a morning briefing to make sure everyone is on the same page and knows what to expect. You then go through some last minute QA stuff and do some final tests. Then you brief everyone when it is ready to launch one last time make sure everyone is on the same page. You have to keep in mind that patches such as these include everyone from customer support, designers, techs and so forth, people from all disciplines within the agency. Everyone needs to be on the same page in order to make it as seamless as possible and to be prepared for any problems that apply after the product is released.

It makes sense to make sure everyone from Anet involved in the patch is up and ready to go. This can take time.

No one can help you here. You need to contact support and submit a ticket.

https://help.guildwars2.com/anonymous_requests/new

Argon.1563:

This update is now 20 hours late.

and yes, I converted the timezones, it is still 20 hours late.

No it isn’t. It is 10:53 AM April 15th, 2014 Anet office time.

The funny thing is that is seems recently that those against mounts keep bumping this thread after it falls off the front page more than those that want them. At some time it is probably best to just stop smacking that dead horse. The poor dead horse has been beat into McDonald’s hamburger at this point.

I have to work until about 8:00 PM Anet time, 11:00 PM my time. My studio is pushing something more important to me than a game patch. :P I’ll live. I’ll go home, grab some food, and crash out. I’m sure everything will be waiting for me when I wake up. Just as it will be for everyone else that needs to chill out and go about their business until the patch happens. For all of you that get to sit there ready to play when the patch goes live, lucky you, I guess if that is what you are into.

Lankybrit.4598:

Can’t even tell us whether there’s a fix in the patch today Danicia?

CC said they are working on it. I take this as meaning the fix isn’t there yet and probably don’t expect it in the patch. Who knows though. They could be working hard to work it into the patch before it goes live but I doubt they will hold back the 4/15 patch much due to the Mac bug. Then again I could be wrong.