Guild Wars 2

Player Character.9467:

Stop trying to put siege and tower hugging into gvg…

Yeeeeeah, get plenty of that in WvW as is, lol. XD

Bran.7425:

Just curious here why would using some variation of the sPvP model that is already in place for a setup for this GvG niche? Not saying it should be the option, but and wondering why it is not considered.

First and foremost, it does not support the sheer numbers of people GvG typically brings with it. We’re talking 20 man guild member groups competiting from each of the other two servers currently in WvW during any given match-up, plus unknown number of spectators. I have screenies of past GvG’s with well over 100-140 people overall in attendance. It could of course probably be trimmed down to just two guilds competing, but it would still have to be a large instance map of it’s own. SPvP currently has nothing that would support this.

Secondly, the non-balanced, all gear and power-ups accounted for, nature of the WvW combat engine is preferred over the autobalanced SPvP engine. This also goes for the attire and Amulets that sPvP forces players to use. We want our gear, our weapons, our stats.

I like the whole land ownership idea. What will likely happen though is it will be a house within the Salma District, otherwise known as the “home instance.” The place where many of the early missions take place. The only choices we’ll likely have to start with will be whether or not we want to live on the hill with the wealthier folks, or in a more humble abode down the street.

I’d personally like to see a personal single character use only chest or “bank” in our house. So that any character that actually owned the house had their very own bank tab. I am interested in this because my main character currently has an entire bank tab to herself. I have eight characters in total, and one of them is taking up an entire slot.

As for things like “family” within the game. I actually think they had things like this in previous MMO’s. I believe it was was character marriages though. The pair were condsidered wed and they received a small PvE buff when playing together in near vicinty or teamed with one another.

Myro Pyro.1749:

Zepher.7803:

Hello SBI, Please tell your less then respectable players to stop using AC “Tricks” I am only posting this so you can handle it, and it doesn’t become a bigger issue affecting your growing reputation. please LOOK CLOSELY and please know how Arrow carts work before trying to explain this as “Legit”

Thanks

I was actually there, as you can see all of the abys names in the screenshot. Being the guild leader of Abyss we don’t accept these types of hacks, so therefore we don’t use them. I built that ac below that cliff and with 4 points in ac, you can hit where it’s shown here.

So this is pretty legit

It is legit, I have personally tested that area of NE tower for proper siege placement a while back. The only legitimately safe place on that ledge you’re on there is right against that little cliff-face behind you. There and right on top of the little cliff outcropping in question are actually two of the best spots for Ballista and ACs in that tower, as they overlook the entire area.

Teraphas.6210:

You all realize it takes time to build systems for the game. Especially maps. If you want gvg and you want it done right with integrated systems and tracking etc then be patient.

If you want a bare bones open field just so you can get out of wvw and any buffs that may be there, then go support my thread to create some bareboned multipurpose rooms that the populace can use for anything. . Just realize that getting that fast bandaid fix may delay getting real gvg even longer

The difference here, is not our opinion. It’s the time frame behind it. You’re thinking long term, massive large scale arena with buffs and separate battle map/combat engine/etc. I’m thinking more we need a place set up for us right now where we can go because our favorite passtime is getting choked out of existence.

Vick.6805:

Just give people a venue for GvG…I really don’t see why ANet is fighting so hard against it.

The only issue I have with GvG in WvW is that it will occasionally give that map a queue, when a large number of the people in the map are GvG’ers or spectators, rather than actually playing WvW. Other than that, I think people should be able to play the game as they please.

This isn’t the first time I’ve carried the “Save GvG!” banner in the forums. I’ve even went so far as to suggest they put an arena in an out of the way but easily accessible corner of the already existing Eternal Battlegrounds JP. Which as far as I know is its own instance entirely. So it wouldn’/shouldn’t effect the active Borderland queues in any fashion.

Perhaps the most humorous part, I don’t even have a guild with a big enough WvW presence to actually take part in GvG. I’m typically relegated to spectating. GvG has become the baseball of the mists, if you will. It’s a passtime and excuse for servers to get together and mingle without eating each others faces. Well, until one side gets mad when they lose, and the crowd erupts into a massive free for all. Again, part of the allure of the sport.

My question is why is Anet trying so blatantly hard to snuff this? Why is it I see opportunity where they apparently see only an anomally within the WvW community? They want to build content, fine, let them. I’m pointing out that there’s a completely untouched venue here that has massive potential and is already massively popular. If it were me in their shoes I’d capitalize on this with a large scale set of arena ruins, complete with food vendors, skill merchants. Maybe if thy wanted to get really creative maybe even a touch humorous with it they could treat it like a “ball game” atmosphere. We could even have special fight-specific foods like peanuts, ale, cotton candy, hot dogs, etc. All with stat boosts aimed at buffing of small scale fights. As stated, it’s currently untouched. It’s ripe for molding into something great. Anet strives so hard to bring (literally drag in some opinions) people into WvW via methods like required mapping locations and rehashed old content. Why not instead do what any country in the world that wants to promote legitimate tourism does? They don’t hold people at gun-point and say, “you WILL visit us!”… No, they build things of public interest. They construct things that the people will legitimately want to visit and see!

Rant, over.

nothing.7941:

KStudios.2850:

Actually, been running/farming SAB all morning. When I said quit, I meant WvW exclusively. I meant what I said, but am being urged to reconsider. If I go back, it won’t necessarily be because I wanted to…

I do a bit of PvE for once, and people get all kitteny… For Grenths sake let me be angry for a while!

My God, KStudios in the freaking adventure box. GG anet. Dump the dam buff already, you have some good stuff going on here outside of that. But when you’re change for the sake of change puts someone like this OP in that stupid box, you have totally screwed up. Oh, and just give us a gvg arena already. How hard is that?

Saddest part? The “bunnados” in SAB are tougher than some of the high tier server Warriors I’ve seen in WvW. Lol!

Actually, been running/farming SAB all morning. When I said quit, I meant WvW exclusively. I meant what I said, but am being urged to reconsider. If I go back, it won’t necessarily be because I wanted to…

I do a bit of PvE for once, and people get all kitteny… For Grenths sake let me be angry for a while!

Lord Kuru.3685:

For those who rail against GvG — it seems most GvG guilds are very big contributors to PPT WvW. If these guilds quit, or play less, your server will be hurt. Oh and getting rid of GvG does not mean those players will now contribute to PPT — it’s just as likely they will not log in at all.

The great thing about WvW is the “play how you want” aspect of it — zerging, sieging, small man roaming, dueling, GvG. A lot of players do many of these activities. If you got rid of all but PPT, many would probably get bored and leave.

Exactly.

Achilles.2197:

Oh cmon guys, I know you’re all itching to get into gold and come play with us!

Who sold you the climbing gear to get down here? Get back on that mountain where you belong! XD

As a former consistant healer player.

No…

Why?

I’m not going back to those days. The days when the healer was blamed for everything. Despite whether or not it was the healers fault. Despite that Private Jenkins “Rambo’ed” 30 yards ahead of the rest of the team, got inevitably dusted seconds later, and the healer is expected to rez/put up with that guy. Despite that I was skilled enough as the healer to always be the last to fall, but still called a nub when everyone else /resign’ed.

Nope…

Won’t do it.

Epistemic.8013:

Rama.6439:

The only thing I like about this patch is that it will get rid of GvG from WvW, it had no place in WvW and that’s that.

Good riddance.

Has nothing to do with GvG, +150 stats is ridiculous. It’s basically a full set of exotic celestial armor on top of what a player already has on. It shouldn’t be in the game. When the league starts, how often will that #12 server have a stack?

Precisely. He was focusing solely on the GvG aspect of my argument. Which is only half of it. It’s absolutely insane, as stated. Especially when fighting a server two tiers above you that you didn’t have a hope in kitten of actually beating to begin with. Now they get to camp in the center of your BL buffed with +150 to stats… WITH CANNONS mind you…

Also, points on spiking an opponent should’ve been in effect since the beginning, even without the buff, and In my opinion should go as follows: Lowest scoring server +3 on successful spike, medium server +2, top server +1 (self-adjusting upon one server gaining or losing the lead of course). This would really make small man groups on underdog servers shine. Basically the folks out there traveling with five or less that are camp capping, camp defending, roaming, zerg tail trimming, etc. Generally the folks that the large-scale zerg either never sees or seldom bothers with on their way to their objective. It would really open up a small level of competitiveness that now is all but shot in the head and bleeding in the gutter.

In short, the mega-servers need more to lose, not more to gain.

Sarrs.4831:

Oooh, this is starting to spill over into the general forum. How lovely.

Have there even been GvG matches scheduled for now? I really can’t wait for when this really starts spilling over. It hasn’t even begun!

There have been mock-practice 10v10’s on our server. This add-on is everything the GvG community feared it would be. Completely imbalanced. If they want GvG out of WvW, then we need somewhere else to go (inb4 some nooblet says anything about lamekitten sPvP). Otherwise, huge mistake on Anet’s part for the sake of WvW.

Rama.6439:

The only thing I like about this patch is that it will get rid of GvG from WvW, it had no place in WvW and that’s that.

Good riddance.

Oh yeah lol, lets break that down logically.

1: I can’t speak for all servers, but my home server the GvG crowd makes up about 50-60% of the overall dedicated WvW population.
2: They also, not coincidentally, make up the most skilled portion of that populace in open field combat. In short, a smaller servers only hope of having any chance of dealing with a mass zerg-mob from a server with superior numbers.

In essence, have fun in the lower tiers that you’ll be dropping to, and with the pugs who don’t know enough to know better. Good riddance indeed. Will be missed, but not regretted.

It’s not my problem you’ve apparently been shield bashed in the head too many times to be able to accept a triple stacking buff in a lopsided system that already favors numbers over any amount of skill or tactical application. You hear that? That’s the sound of a 60+ man mouth frothing mob with a +150 stat buff at your south Bay gate. Better get there, glutton for punishment. Rofl!

The new orb system in WvW in my opinion is a COMPLETE disaster. Even moreso than the former orb system. At least back then we had walls to protect our buffs. Now the overpowered server in whatever match-up you’re in just zerg-camps the center area. I watched this yesterday in our already lopsided match against Stormbluff Isle. 20-30 man zerg just chillaxing in the center zone with their already full +150 stats bonus from owning all three Borderlands. If we’re planning to keep this, at least don’t let the buffs stack. That’s lunacy. I’m NOT fighting a roided out tier 2 server that was already more than we could handle prior to this update being implimented. I will say however I do love the new land area instead of the massive lake though. Lots of trees, lots of ruins. Fun to skirmish in.

As for a designated GuildvGuild arena within WvW. We’ve been asking for this FOREVER. It’s now a very well beaten and very dead horse. This is an integral part of WvW for players that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Because we like the WvW combat engine and prefer it over the sPvP engine (even if sPvP would support 20v20 battles + spectators to begin with). You guys seem prime to hash out new content, but aren’t listening to your player base (the people ultimately keeping you in your jobs). Kudos to you, I love that it has been a year and you guys are still at it, but this is gawd awful. It’s just one more method added for the superior server in a match to stand, or in this case camp atop, on the underdog.

This doesn’t change, I’m out… Just plain out. As if I didn’t have a steady enough diet of dirt in WvW as it was. I find it hard to believe anyone thought this was a good idea. A triple stacking buff? Are you kidding me?

Gulagman.9045:

KStudios.2850:

Gulagman.9045:

Had a nice 1 v 1 with an Anet dude until the RISE guy came in. Had you down to about 10%….

Also, Lich Form OP amirite? That other Anet necro got knows what I’m talkin about.

Bloodlust in the borderlands…brings back memories of sPvP days….

These guys?

Meh…

Glad they have taken such interest I guess. This one done got run over though.

There was like 3-4 Anet folks in YBBL. None of em were too hard to fight, I honestly expected a bit more skill from em. At first, I thought they were devs here to check out the new content, maybe have a nice chat with them…since I’ve never seen an Anet person on YB WvW. Then this guy comes up and hundred blades me while I was typing /bow. Maybe they should have brought their PvP builds, I think that Anet necro learned it the hard way after dying 3 times in a row.

Pffft… Casuals. =P

Rofl!

I jest of course, but it’s not like you ever see these guys at Fight Club or anything. What can you expect? Same goes for a lot of the high rank folks in WvW too though. Rank by no means equates to level of personal combat skill. Though I will say there’s an SBI silver out there somewhere who is downright scary.

Gulagman.9045:

Had a nice 1 v 1 with an Anet dude until the RISE guy came in. Had you down to about 10%….

Also, Lich Form OP amirite? That other Anet necro got knows what I’m talkin about.

Bloodlust in the borderlands…brings back memories of sPvP days….

These guys?

Meh…

Glad they have taken such interest I guess. This one done got run over though.

Yerffejy.6538:

Lots of fun fights tonight at BP BL from BP and YB.

Was a blast holding it against you guys, and you had some serious yak snipers at one point, stalling our upgrades.

Thanks to all the SBI who helped out, putting in long hours every night to make this possible.

P.S. To the BP commander who logs in at 4:30am (pacific), you did the same tactic last night. And then tried it again tonight. But this time we were ready for it. We knew you would be waking up soon, and were at the ready. Might wanna switch it up sometime.

Yeah yeah, we had that Waypoint built yesterday too. Where’s our money? Just go ahead and make that check out to Kalkz. >=D

Azure Prower.8701:

Jinks.2057:

Azure Prower.8701:

Pete.8417:

Roaming in sos land is fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAfeHqA7PA0
sorry for the poor video editing, i am a noob at editing _

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Jinks.2057:

Pinko.2076:

I think SoS mentions people complaining about night capping more than people care about night capping.

Not caring about night capping but laughing at ppl boasting about night capping still qualifies as not caring about night capping right???

As for the night capping. That argument is so 2012. Get with the times brah.

So what your saying is bragging about PvD’n is so 2013?

Totally.

Here’s another screen shot of SoS superiority.

In SAB too it seems.

ArchonWing.9480:

I’m aware of what you said lol, it’s not pity, I’m just highly amused by your “relationships” with those two other servers. The term friends was a joke. In fact, I didn’t think of anyone from there reading our matchup.

As for the changes, I’m just not really fond of Queue Wars 2, although I guess it’s already happening. Soloing camps is fun but I can just totally imagine like 20 people camping each one with siege. >.>

Quite a few of us @ SBI love you guys at EB, although you may not love us. It’s unfortunate since recently everyone seems to hate SBI, including SBI. I mean we were even accused of teaming with NSP (wat?)

We faced BP and AR first and they presented you guys as some kind of bogeyman so that spurred the imagination a little. We’ve learned a lot from you folks despite what some may think.

Anyhow, that’s too much goodwill. Afk collecting bags since there’s no “forum mastery” to spend points on.

We hoped they learned a lot too in our thirteen weeks of uninterrupted interaction, lol. That was kind of the point, as it is with all GvG’s, Fight Clubs, and any other such interactions between servers. It’s meant to be at it’s core a test of a servers strength and weaknesses, and overall hopefully a learning experience. Borliss has excelled since the “Thirteen Week War.” Far moreso than could have ever been expected at that time, and in less time than could have ever been anticipated. This probably is, and rightfully should be a point of pride for them. Most unfortunately, the same cannot be said of the Rock…

As for friendship, or lack thereof (depending on who you talk to, as I for one find them both most endearing), it’s hardly a surprise I’d say. At best I think our overall level of favor upon one another may very well never rise above that of maybe what you might see in ex-prison cellmates (I laugh at that analogy and it’s multiple implications and meanings, some of which are quite accurate). Back then, we probably did seem like “boogeymen.” Particularly during the “Broliss Rock” phase of those match-ups when both Borliss and Anvil were coming at us in full cooperative fashion against us. In the end though, we withstood the dual assault. I for one was amazed with level of cooperation shown on the part of both Borliss and Anvil during that period. I’ve seen nothing like it since (that whole phase making Borliss’s recent rise ever more impressive). Sure, I’m told Ebay’s server forums literally lit up with cries of foul play at being dual-hammered. That too is of little surprise to me. There will always be criers anywhere you go, and criers gonna cry. There’s a reason I don’t frequent our forums after all. Much of what is present there is so much over-dramatic filth, spewed by those who probably care just a little too much.

I am as a tourist right now, viewing another culture. It’s only day two of my “vacation” here in Borliss and I’m already awestruck by it all. Same camps, same towers, completely familiar surroundings, and yet the people make it a completely different world. Much to my utter joy and fascination.

saiyr.3071:

KStudios.2850:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread, people who run in 25-30 man guild blobs complain about it being hard to find good fights.

…Or self-gank their connection when they’re about to lose one.

Mind…

STILL BLOWN!

…wait, so I wasn’t the only one seeing that last night too? Weird.

I’ve come to terms with that actually. Now I merely chuckle because I made the guy/girl rage so bad they were forced to full-on abort, lol.

Chris.3290:

Jinks.2057:

Chris.3290:

I’m justifying my winning against doors.

Getting old you are facing 2 servers who’d rather kill ppl than kill doors. Have fun taking empty keeps ^^

I talk about open field fights and Jinks brings it back to PvD because it’s the only record he can play.

It’s a classic though. Like Surfin’ Bird.

ArchonWing.9480:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

ArchonWing.9480:

So what happened to Borlis Pass? I don’t like this Backhurt Pass imposter.

Xsorus.2507:

Nikkinella.8254:

There’s an anet dev on SBI! He’s our personal guild bounty now for this whole matchup.

There is an entire guild of them on SBI actually.

Really? I’ve never seen them. I’d like to kill them myself, but alas.

Silver league or bust. That’s what happened. On the up side PvE I’ve never seen so many doing world bosses. We’ve had queues recently. If they would have divided na into 3 leagues we wouldn’t be having this issue.

I miss these forums, but what’s the point posting for awhile.

edit

Obviously that was a joke. I don’t think anyone is losing intentionally. It’s just that right now for some reason we have much fewer people participating. Make of it what you will.

edit again, meant 4 leagues.

A combo of the questionable decisions of the wvw developers + pve farm farm farm content has done a number most likely to wvw in general. Funny thing is deliberately tanking might not even work at all at this rate, so yea… And even if one of us three gets to stomp silver for a bit, we’ll be screwed anyways by season 2 if they keep this crap up. We’re really into this together, along with your friends @ EB and poor AR who will only be increasingly screwed with the league system.

Ebay is hardly a lot anyone should feel sorry for, I can freely say in being one. We’re a hard-headed, unapologetic, and mouthy bunch who will jump at any opportunity to drag you through the dirt, verbally or ingame. No pity required nor wanted lol.

As for my personal reaction to the incoming changes. Meh… As long as camps are still solo-able I have little reason to complain and will continue to play my part unabated.

Ohai Borliss. Looked like you could use a hand. =3

Oozo.7856:

In this thread, people who run in 25-30 man guild blobs complain about it being hard to find good fights.

…Or self-gank their connection when they’re about to lose one.

Mind…

STILL BLOWN!

Wow… Lamest thing I’ve officially seen.

We were in the middle of trying to take OL, but our first attempt was a bust and folks on inner got wiped. Okay, I know when to fold, so I’m heading out. Some gung-ho Warrior in all his sparkly Radiant gear leaps over the wall and starts failing with his PvE nub Eternity like there’s no tomorrow. Okay, I’m on the run anyway, so I’m off the cliff-side and into the water. Let the “big shiny guard dog” keep his pride right, I keep fleeing. I come ashore, only… this dunce is still on my heels. Still flailing and frothing at the mouth. His loss… He’s far away from his comrades and in an open field now, home field advantage as a Ranger is now mine. So I dance. Guy can’t hit me… He drops. Gotta give him credit though, he knows how to survive. He uses his downed 3 skill to rez and kills skelk to get the kill-timer off himself. He does this twice, after I drop him a second time. He’s still unable to touch me, and that little skelk stunt isn’t going to save him from maxed death penalty. Which will end him in his inevitable next drop. I get him down to 15% health and…

He self-disconnects…

Poof…

Gone…

My advice to this fellow, stick to PvE. All the l33t gear in the game isn’t going to make you great with those tactics. You came at me, you gave chase, and you still would’ve lost. You’re fortunate I wasn’t filming this morning. I’d have made a show of that.

Boonprot.6274:

@KStudios: Who are you, again? I don’t think I’ve seen your guild before, unless it was inside a herd of EBay running into a keep/sitting on the walls on siege. Even so, it’s easy to miss individual tags amidst the blob.

Rofl!

I’ll be the one flipping camps and if you’re really slacking making tower doors disappear at random and leaving them wide open. It’s just me so yeah, I’m hard to miss if found, but if you never see me that’s precisely how I intended it lol. I’m usually rollin’ with my Bags Be Strolling [LOOT] tag, so come say hi. I’m built like a brick house but don’t bite too hard I promise.

Just signed out for now though… Obligatory spouse time and all, which means my fun both here and ingame is at an end tonight. -Sigh- The things that must be done to maintain a mutually beneficial cohabitative relationship, ya know? If I do respond further tonight it will be from my phone, if not see ya’ll in the morning.

Boonprot.6274:

Gorefiend.9675:

Boonprot.6274:

GH is probably one of the most siege-happy guilds I’ve ever run into. Have yet to see EBay fight open-field unless they outnumber the opposing force at least 2:1.

I suggest taking a few deep breaths. Maybe some yoga, gotta watch that blood pressure.

Idk, I feel pretty calm. We just switched BLs and had a really good time fighting SoS on their BL. If EBay wants to hide behind ACs all day, they’re free to do that. Should probably join the Devon Carter fan club, though, because you’re pretty much poster children for his 5-year plans. However, it’s not gonna stop me or anyone else on Mag from calling you out for being poor players who hide in keeps all day.

What mystifies me, though, is that the only other server I have ever faced who spams siege as much as EBay is JQ. FA, DB, TC, SoS, BP, YB, CD, KN. None of them drop as much crap as you guys. It’s a weird kind of experience.

Oh snap… I was wondering what ya’ll were up to down there. Lots of flailing and running about in AC fire. Didn’t think it was girl scout cookie time again so soon.

Entioch.6594:

Oozo.7856:

Sol.4310:

AD just like to say, next time bring 20+ for 5 SWaG, your guilds a joke get good.

I guess he is trying to imply that 5 SWaG beat 20 AD or something, which is pretty funny on several levels. :P

Ask them for a 5v5 and settle it big ole manly man style.

Greased up hairy barehanded man vs arctodus style. Afterward, you can all cozy up around a bonfire while Bear Grylles cooks the giant grub on a spit and drink your own…

Gonna stop right there lol.

Xabu.3754:

KStudios.2850:

Comprissent.3856:

To all ebay

please don’t be boring tonight. Thank you

To all Mags,

Then please don’t roll with 15+ on our BL after midnight then complain about us being boring when we’re not even there. You’re welcome.

Sea of Sorrows is in this matchup. We’re not the ones you have to worry about “late at night.”

Our contingency plan for SoS is as follows: Let them borrow everything of ours, then let them defend it for us until we awake refreshed in the morning.

Comprissent.3856:

KStudios.2850:

Comprissent.3856:

To all ebay

please don’t be boring tonight. Thank you

To all Mags,

Then please don’t roll with 15+ on our BL after midnight then complain about us being boring when we’re not even there. You’re welcome.

oh no, we have 15+? GH has had 25+ for 3 straight hours on the map. There were multiple ballistae/AC in every camp and tower we checked.

Also we left several hours before midnight, so idk who your’e talking about

SoS being 100x more fun right now

Be advised, this was more for the week ahead than opening weekend, when we are at our strongest before we flicker out like a candle come Monday. Until then, I am not in any way liable nor responsible for any zerg maulings that may ensue over the course of tonight and tomorrow.

FYI

Comprissent.3856:

To all ebay

please don’t be boring tonight. Thank you

To all Mags,

Then please don’t roll with 15+ on our BL after midnight then complain about us being boring when we’re not even there. You’re welcome.

Snafu.7412:

Superior numbers?! WTF r u spewing?

I think you took the post to heart a little to much. The ONLY fights we’ve been getting are from ebay, he was criticizing BP more than anything. That being said BP is a mini-JQ boring as kitten to play against.

Just throwing that out there lol. It’s not uncommon for us to not even be able to muster the numbers to start a breakout until after 7-8 AM. It’s sad, but it’s common-place for us.

As for BP being boring this week, apparently their trump card broke his comp screen in a fit of rage recently, rofl!

Boonprot.6274:

Every single night we have to resort to breaking down keep walls to even get BP/EBay to play. Yesterday night, we ended up cataing down NWT on BP BL to try and get some action. Then we skirmished for 15 minutes or so (during which one of our members got PMs saying that apparently we were trash who could “only move really well together” but “had no damage,” except we kept insta-downing people who got caught in our bombs? idk), and then moved on to open-field trebbing down garrison to see if we could get people to come play. BP dropped a counter-treb inside garri and disappeared. Yawn.

Only good fight we got last night was at Golanta where EBay kept res-rushing and snuck behind us to build ACs in the camp. EBay building open-field siege? Blasphemy! Don’t get me wrong, it was a ton of fun and lasted for 20 minutes or so without any interference on our side (a rare occurrence), but the amount of siege being built to try and wipe us was both unsurprising and sad.

Don’t even get me started that there’s only one guild on all of EBay and BP who offered to GvG.

Such a fun matchup.

Soooo, you’re mad because the 6-10 of us that are on at night don’t just jump onto the swords of your frothing mobs usually superior numbers?

You’re also mad because we have like two, maybe three guilds even big enough, let alone skilled enough, for GvG? It’s pretty much down to [GF] and maybe [FTF]? Don’t know how [GH] is doing in numbers these days. I’d face you all on behalf of [SLVR]. Mostly as a stunt though to put them on the GvG scoring map for lulz lol. There’s only about 8 dedicated WvW’ers from my guild, and they’re all on at different time intervals.

Don’t know what you want from us precisely… I can’t speak for Borliss, but I know aside from [BS] their night numbers aren’t much to brag about either. Aside from being better than ours.

Buffy.9246:

Sil.4560:

Played a little tonight. Remembered why I hadn’t all week – there is nothing impressive out there. Some group from BP – Borlis Savers guild – actually sat on a wall for ten solid minutes and refused a duel. Other players are downright disappointing.

Do not come on forums complaining no one will dual you. That is utter childish. You can not force anyone to dual you. If you want to dual, go fight the 1s near windmill or wherever dualing takes place or go into Spvp. WvW is meant for groups to fight each other. I haven’t stepped in wvw much this week because of Maguuma server, Don’t like that server at all since I have seen nothing but bad sportmanship from them. I do not know if you are mag or ebay but Mag can’t seem to fight 1v1 anyway. From roaming for daily I seen mag run from me only to come back with a group of 5+ following just to kill one player. I hear that alot from other people that Maguuma can’t fight alone, but you do not see me coming onto forums and posting ridiculous posts like that. I just go opposite way and finish my daily then leave.

Much rather stick with, “staying up on walls hiding from one person makes you a scurred kitten! Nyah nyah!”

Yup. Like that far better.

fadswaffer.5140:

What’s a dead game? Dead Gamete?

Dead game?

There was over 60 people in attendance at the GvG, not including those on the field… and Borliss wasn’t even there. Some of your folks definition of a dead game differs wildly from my own apparently, lol.

saiyr.3071:

KStudios.2850:

saiyr.3071:

Jinks.2057:

Gahzirra.8639:

Jinks.2057:

Player Character.9467:

Jinks.2057:

So uhh whys BP in 3rd place?

Badies gonna bad?

A theory with merit

Ehmry 3rd place quoted for truf

inc: We don’t play for PPT, PPT is lame we only use it when it suits us
Reset is a servers true strength
School is back in and we get cranky at recess unless we go to bed at 9

WTF are rambling about?

The fact ebay is in 3rd place on a tuesday night by 4k?

Who cares about winning PPT besides Borlis Pass???

Everyone knows the gap is only 4k because Kalkz rage broke his laptop screen

Aww… I keep wanting to visit BP for a week or two as a holiday. One of the things I really wished to do during that time was run with Kalkz and company at least once lol. Suppose it’s for the best though. I don’t feel right doing it right now because not only are we in a match together, but the scores are really close. It just doesn’t feel right, and I know from BP’s perspective would probably look even worse. No matter how honorable my intentions may be.

you are a strange person

I am? Hmm, maybe.

What can I say, I like people. Especially those that are, in their own way, stand alone characters amongst their own. People like Kalkz, Evilzara, Evalana, and our Jinks for example.

Thanks! =D

Either or is close enough for roleplaying purposes. Someone who saw this post and PM’ed me ingame suggested Mudmetal was the mysterious mystery color of the armor. It too is pretty close but not spot-on. In my opinion just a tad too light and not enough yellow. In my own search, I’d begun to even check into the various greens. Yet again with only varying levels of success. I have no clue what this mystery color actually is either.

One thing I actually noticed in my personal quest here, is that many of the actual Lionguard NPC’s themselves are not completely consistent in their color scheme. When seeking out random Lionguard officers to compare my current hue choices to, I found varying differences. Some of them had darker pauldrons than others. While a few of them the armor trimming , the metal usually grayish portion on the helm and armguards, were shades of red, etc. I don’t don’t know quite enough about the lore behind the Lionguard to know if this means anything, but I speculate that this may be indicative of a person’s rank. This would also make some sense from a military perspective.

saiyr.3071:

Jinks.2057:

Gahzirra.8639:

Jinks.2057:

Player Character.9467:

Jinks.2057:

So uhh whys BP in 3rd place?

Badies gonna bad?

A theory with merit

Ehmry 3rd place quoted for truf

inc: We don’t play for PPT, PPT is lame we only use it when it suits us
Reset is a servers true strength
School is back in and we get cranky at recess unless we go to bed at 9

WTF are rambling about?

The fact ebay is in 3rd place on a tuesday night by 4k?

Who cares about winning PPT besides Borlis Pass???

Everyone knows the gap is only 4k because Kalkz rage broke his laptop screen

Aww… I keep wanting to visit BP for a week or two as a holiday. One of the things I really wished to do during that time was run with Kalkz and company at least once lol. Suppose it’s for the best though. I don’t feel right doing it right now because not only are we in a match together, but the scores are really close. It just doesn’t feel right, and I know from BP’s perspective would probably look even worse. No matter how honorable my intentions may be.

Fuffydud.1352:

Hello! I’m no dev, but reproducing NPC armor is a hobby of mine.

I tried to re-create a Lionguard heavy set back before TP dyes were previewable, and I ended up with Gold and Tarnished Steel on everything but the shoulders. (I never acquired the right shoulders, so I’m not sure what dye to use on them.)

It’s not perfectly exact. Gold is a bit too yellow (by a single tiny itty bitty notch) but no one would look twice.

I’ll pick up the Lionguard project again and see if I can’t find the exact dye used. And I really need the right pauldrons, too. I’ll let you know what I discover!

Pottery on the pauldrons is pretty close. Just a shade or two darker and they’d be perfect.

Donari.5237:

I have a guildie who specializes in reproducing various uniform armors, I’ll link this to her so she can help you out.

That would be amazing, thank you!

Evalana.5480:

Ohh I forgot! Quick shoutout to the Borlis Warrior from Beasty Co [BC] behind the windmill that pounced on me lol. I like your spirit! You were very persistant! I had a LOT of fun dueling you for like an hour! You wouldn’t let me get out of combat to take my stacks off though, so the fight was a little lopsided… I finally ran away to take them off for a fair fight, but when I came back, you were gone… rematch? Whisper me in game ♥

Did you just set up camp back there or what? O.o

Edit: Guess not. Was gonna stop by and say hi. Only thing I found behind BP and Mag windmills was a really bad longbow Ranger. Who was most unfortunately still better than my mediocre 1v1 skill as a Mesmer lol.

This is what happens when you don’t bring your A-game lol. My Ranger could’ve kicked three of her to the curb.

Thief

*Heritage Bandana
*Invader’s Rawhide Shoulders
*Assassin’s (T3 Human Medium)
*Heritage Armguards
*Duelist pants (Standard medium rare skin)
*Invader’s Rawhide Boots

what can I say? when you wanna look “extra stabby.”

Bonus Secret: That’s actually not Abyss or even Black dye at all. That’s Midnight Tiel. Many of the “Midnights” appear very black on most leather. Midnight Tiel I particularly like though because in certain light it has a cool iridescent green tint. Also, they’re pretty cheap too.

Ranger

*Temple Shoulders
*Krytan Jerkin
*Duelist Guantlets (Standard medium rare skin)
*Krytan Pants
*Leather Shoes (Which look like high cuffed boots, oddly enough)

I simply love the fact that the pauldrons in combination with jerkin make it look more like a jacket, instead of the jerkin being more a vest in configuration.

Asking if anyone, Dev or otherwise, knows the exact set of colors used by Lionguard members on their heavy armor sets? I’m pretty close right now with Dijon, Tarnished Steel, and Pottery but not quite there yet.

bradderzh.2378:

You’ll have to teach me the skills you use to make this happen eBay. Seems really pro and way out of my league.

The same skills some BP used the other day when attacking south Hills gate and yet AC’ing our siege being built on the bridge spanning that entrance corridor way beyond the gate presumably… No server is guiltless.

Unfortunately I was not filming at the time.

Xsorus.2507:

Did you just say 60% of the population in World vs World is involved in GvG

cause I have to tell you, You’re wrong.. ..

Depends on the server. Our two biggest guilds both do it heavily. That ratio would not be horribly inaccurate for us.

Esuni.2498:

Shemsu.8721:

Esuni.2498:

Veteran Oakheart.4035:

The fact is that you ask to remove features requiring more pvp “personal” skill to take and hold than zerginess, which benefit the most to small group play and which is also leading to a better balance of servers in most case-

Fact is that we ask to toggle something so a part of WvW stays legit and existant.
This which we want to toggle should also not be in the game in the first place as it will bring even more unbalance to the game mode.

I remember the days where customer feedback was taken seriously and not ignored or looked down upon

GvG is not an intended or legit part of wvw. I’m not saying there shouldnt be a place for more than 8v8 or 10v10 fights (unless they add support for spvp up to 20v20 then it would be fine there) However, that place is not wvw

There are 2 playstyles in this game, sit behind siege all day and blob up to pvd and press 1 to get doors or small groups down. And you have the solo roamers, small group romaers and guild roamers.

This update is meant for the 2nd part of these players, and these players do not want a stat buff.
Do you know why?
Because they dont like killing players while they themselves have an unfair advantage over the other as it brings no satisfaction of outskilling an opponent.

Do you also know why GvG is formed?
Because players wanted to know who was best in a fight that was as fair as possible, not using guard stacks, not using weapon stacks. They use them in WvW right now because they have no choise as it makes them weaker against the players of the other style who do use them.

It’s ironic that he makes an update that should attract a certain type of players, and thosep layers do not want a part of theb uff it gives.
The update wouldve been greta but this buff and the atitude that a certain dev is giving is ruining this.

Let me face that which is insurmountable… It’s the entire point.

Shiren.9532:

I don’t believe that many people are using the WvW maps to do things other than the intended uses, I believe the majority of people play WvW as intended. I believe the people who don’t are in the minority, and of those who do participate in this kind of thing, for most of them it’s a small fraction of their time. I think a lot of people would disagree that open field battles is the greatest part of WvW. Regardless, the buff helps shift the momentum in favour of open field battles, so people who like that kind of thing should be happy. And if they aren’t? There is a whole subforum dedicated to monetization of GW2 where I’m sure Crystin Cox would be happy to hear that a “huge” community of players is willing to buy custom arena tickets if she raises the player cap of a custom arena to 25.

The custom arena system is heinous first of all. Not only does it only support a small cap of people, it requires gem fees for continued use. Ain’t nobody got time, or money, for that. There needs to be an instance within WvW itself for these events to be done. I suggested earlier an arena add-on in an out of the way corner of the mostly now unused but already existing Eternal Battlegrounds JP. That way we’re not in anybodies way, and hopefully not subject this new buff being implemented. It would keep us from having to stand outside and fight amongst the pigs too lol. We gather within WvW for GvGs for a reason. We like the existing PvP engine there, and it’s convenient. We don’t want to move to sPvP.

As for the popularity of GvG, Formal Dueling (aka Fight Club), etc, I know personally you’re way off. I myself have screenies of GvG events with easily over 60-80 people in attendence (spectators only at that, not including the 20-40 on the field). There is a legitimate number of people GvG caters to, and thus a legitmate potential for new content should they choose to implement it. They seem to enjoy building new things, so what’s wrong with a full scale ruined gladitorial style arena?

The only thing we could hope to ask for after that is that inter-server matches be possible, so we can test ourselves against our comrades as well. =P

Player Character.9467:

KStudios.2850:

Evalana.5480:

kartek.6428:

Kiliaan.1934:

kartek.6428:

have GF thieves ever considered trying to fight without shadow stepping away to get out of combat every time they reach low health? ? ? ? ?

Sure, give me a 1:5 ratio and I will stay and fight all five of you otherwise if you want to chase me down your gonna have to earn it, GL!

your

You’re!!

You have disgraced this forum with your grammatical correctness. Go stand in the corner of dark dank shameful woe! >=O

you’re!

You join her! XD