Guild Wars 2

teg.1340:

Kardiamond.6952:

they can solo group and if it gets ugly, they can just RTL away. Having AoE damage make really them efficient in those case.

Let me correct this sentence for you:

They can solo confuse groups by throwing in some AOEs which deal mediocre damage and then RTL away. Having mediocre AoE damage make them feel efficient without actually threatening anyone.

Say that to any good Elem, who can hit and run and get people one by one. Just ask Zooks, I know bad example since he is among the best player around.

And some hybrid build can dish a good amount of damage, especially on GC and with might stacking.

Elem by switching between weapon, can mostly do anything they wan in WvW.

- They are among the best roaming, they can solo group and if it gets ugly, they can just RTL away. Having AoE damage make really them efficient in those case.

- They are the only class that can be siege defender. With focus, they have an ability to block siege projectil.

- Switch to staff, and you can AoE the hell of people during siege.

- During fight, they have mobility, condition removal, healing, damage, conditions, CC.

In sPvP, Elem are very good, not sure if they are too good, but they are in a very good place.

But in WvW, they are fantastic. They also have a high skill cap, meaning that if you are good, you can be god like on this class. Also, they are really fun to play. I just can’t play it anymore because it’s a fotm class.

But yeah, Elem are, in my opinion, the most efficient class in WvW.

Oh, and people talking about versitality. I love the way Anet see it :

Engineer
The Engineer is a highly versatile class. While it doesn’t have the long range capabilities of the Ranger, or the melee capabilities of the Warrior or Guardian, they are comfortable at medium ranges in most fights. They have a lot of control, and use their boons to keep themselves (and allies) alive in a fight. They can use different kits based on the situation, but this extreme versatility comes at a cost in damage on their main hand weapons.

Ele
We see the elementalist as the king of versatility. The skill ceiling for the Ele is exceptional, as the ability to leverage all four attunements at the right time is crucial for understanding the elemetnalist. The Ele boasts some of the best team support and control abilities in the game, as well as some great area of effect damage.

Funny how Engineer has to pay a tax for being “highly versatil” while Elem doesn’t and they are the “king of versatility”.

It deosn’t mean anything, but I just think it’s funny.

@Paxa – The Dentist

Sadly I won’t able to team up with Keyba for some fights with you guys, he is gone on duty for 3 month. God kitten

As I was slowly forming up a roaming team, we lose our best asset.

Now PAXA you’ll be able to Focus fire me without any ripost from that bolt warrior :P

@Lepri

I am using it with pies in WvW, but it’s not has good as flametrower. :P But still owrth using it.

This build is kitten in WvW, and you can survive a lot by using toolkit gear and nails, jump shot to escape, exlixir s and toolbelt, supply drop.

I can usually outrun most people, except thosd warrior jumper and thief and some ele.

@dabomb

If you want to roam with a 5 man group between 9-12pm, whisper me or Keyba, We have a lot of fun roaming.

In sPvP and WvW, I don’t really know any heavy turret build that is really efficient. People usually only use rifle turret only because of surprise shot.

Paxa! We looked for you eveywhere yesterday in BP BL! Couldn’t find you. You killed me once from behind when I was fighting a NSP group, but after that we couldn’t see you anymore!

You really need to have a GPS or something, so Black Legion can find you and have some nice fights!

Good news is : I think we will keep the same match up next! Love this match up, there are some good roaming groups!

Props of the week :

PAXA for running the top roaming group I saw this week. Keyba(the bolt guy :P) and me have respect for you guys.

Sekz for having some small group roaming that are really skilled.

I don’t remember her guild, but the Female Humain warrior with the Chainsaw (that sound is so kitten annoying in a fight ahha). Really efficient fighter, but each time I wanted to duel you, you were ether moving too fast (warrior mobility) or a zerg from my server would come by, making you run away.

Good Match up week! BP come back was great, I think Anvil Rock has an habit of becoming weaking as the week goes on. BP sure did a lot of point wednesday night!

Well 16k is still a lot of damage If you get netshotted, get your shield ready to block! :P

Vlerden.4182:

Kardiamond.6952:

Vlerden, try this. Our new flavor of the month build

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Five-Gauge-s-100nade-Guide/first#post1278588

Is this a PVE build as well?…. i try to stick with dungeons and temples and events…

It works pretty well in PvE. When I PvE (Fractal, Dungeon run) I switch my stun breaker (Elixir S) for Elixir Gun. Now you can damage the ennemy AND heal your party.

The combo from 100 nade buiuld is also really strong in PvE. 16k++ damage in one combo is really good. Also, once your combo is on cooldown, just throw grenade. If you take the shrapnel traits in explosion, you can stack up to 10-12 bleed on an ennemy. You also can stack up to 25 vulnerability on ennemies. 25% damage for the team is awesome.

If you get in troubble, use gear shield, net shot, jump shot or elixir gun.

I have a lot of success in fractal with this build. Farming is also really easy.

Just one warning : Spamming your grenade is annoying to do, as you have to spam the keys, no auto attack. My finger hurt after a FotM :P

@Npac

You already target me each fight I won’t give you anymore reason to do it.

Before saying who I am, I will wait until I meet you again maybe tonight. :P

And sadly, we only have me and Keyba going for you, we had a third BL yesterday but he was upleveled.

And no worries about my health, Keyba (that warrior with bolt) is there to rez me if I get downed.

Looking toward to our encounter toward, I love them.

Also those with Sekz (typo?), they have some really good players!

@Kintari

Well Engineer won’t hit you for 20k with this combo, I really doubt he did it one shot hehe.

This combo only one shot low hp and glass cannon. A 23k guardian with 2.6k armor shouldn’t go from 100% to 10% with one combo

16k damage on low armor is prolly a good number!

muylaetrix.2096:

Cradorell.3941:

I think your thinking is broken of course there’s going to be a limit! So there will be a queue. Ofc if u don’t like it move to a lower tier! Lmao

why ’ofc there is going to a be a limit" ? from a player pov i find it unacceptable. i payed for this game.

just imagine for one second that on every server there could only be 25 fractal instances at the same time and only 125 players in totall could do fractals at the same time at any given time and that there are queues to enter fractals. i would find that equally unacceptable.

They(Anet) never said it would have no limits. All games have limit.

You payed for a game that explicitly said they would have limit on WvW. Next time read the review.

It’s a physical limitation! If they upped the cap, the server and client connection would not be able to hold it. Culling would be horrible and the lag unplayable.

There are zerg in lower tier, if you don’t want queue.

If one of those kit will get nerfed, I predict 100nade.

SD build didn’t really made is way to competitive tPvP, and don’t work with more then half the utilies we have.

Medicat is also less useful in sPvP as confusion is nerfed compared to PvE. Also, guardian and DD Elem are a lot better to bunker.

100 nade is used in competitive tPvP, can one shot other GC, do it with AoE damage ( and we all know what Anet think about AoE), and have 2 other utility to spare.

Brace Yourself!

Stop transfering to top tier server and you won’t have any issue with queuing.

After our early match up with Fergusson Crossing, I support this post.

FC is a server that never gave up, and never got mass transfer. Slowly, they are growing back, and this is the best way to become a force in WvW. During our match up, they have been respecful opponent and they did hold their own.

If you join them, know that they won’t let you down. They learned to lose, now they are ready to win. Once they raise in rank, they won’t fall back down.

Vlerden, try this. Our new flavor of the month build

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Five-Gauge-s-100nade-Guide/first#post1278588

osif.8673:

Kardiamond.6952:

osif.8673:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Osif

Who is your Char Mesmer, I had some fight with him yesterday, he is pretty hard to corner.

And stop going 5 vs 1 vs me! I was trying to get duel from you guys, but Each time you would invis then ambush me. Not cool man, didn’t you see my emote ahah?

That would be Wafflez.

He does this to people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E14kNqMwD6s

Yeah he is using the kitten Mesmer build that is a pretty hard counter to mine. He was less lucky again keyba tho :P

I prefer your thief, delicous thief!

I’d be up for some 1v1s with you guys. For the most part from what I’ve sen I think BL are pretty skilled. I’ll do either my Mesmer or Warrior… be warned though, 1v1s with my warrior usually last an hour (stupid hammer!) but I’d like to get some more fights in with him since I’m kinda new to warriors.

Ahaah would be nice!

The bad thing tho, is that I’m really bad geared for WvW. My necro is exo/ascended geared, but I don’t use it anymore.

I will have to gear up my engineer before accepting any duel! My build seems to be a lot less effective in WvW then sPvP. I think stats are way higher in WvW, making my burst a lot lower.

And Osif, I will make sure to find you guys again to have some group fight!

@Dovgan

I’m sure even If I get downed, you won’t be far to come save me!

Can’t say man we are at work right now!

Rising Dusk.2408:

This is not a recruitment post (though if anyone wants to join the underdog-of-the-year in WvW, that’d be awesome)

“Underdog of the year”?

A server from Tier 1 being the underdog? What the heck man.

Maybe you should go chat with Ferguson Crossing. If there was to be a server who was the underdog in pretty much every match up they had, it would be them. kitten the higher tier they got since release is tier 7.

I always saw SBI as a powerhouse. Not an “underdog”

osif.8673:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Osif

Who is your Char Mesmer, I had some fight with him yesterday, he is pretty hard to corner.

And stop going 5 vs 1 vs me! I was trying to get duel from you guys, but Each time you would invis then ambush me. Not cool man, didn’t you see my emote ahah?

That would be Wafflez.

He does this to people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E14kNqMwD6s

Yeah he is using the kitten Mesmer build that is a pretty hard counter to mine. He was less lucky again keyba tho :P

I prefer your thief, delicous thief!

@Rinzler

The reason why PAXA are getting bashed on, is the attitude of some of their members on the forum. I’m sure they would have a lot more respect if they posted without the “attitude”.

@Osif

Who is your Char Mesmer, I had some fight with him yesterday, he is pretty hard to corner.

And stop going 5 vs 1 vs me! I was trying to get duel from you guys, but Each time you would invis then ambush me. Not cool man, didn’t you see my emote ahah?

Engineer! The reason our traits seems so bads, is that we only need one, ONE traits to make up for it.

Acidic Elixirs

We don’t need anything else!

Oh man,

One of the reason I left the alliance.

Following a drunk commander who will just throw a zerg to their dead without any tactics.

At first Ronny seems like a cool guy, then he get crazy and do aweful thing.

I’m proud we lost the cheater (been a long thing since we had any hacks?&) and now we lose a self centered commander who randomly throw AR zerg everywhere.

Like I said, good luck to NSP, now that you are stuck with him. Don’t worry, he will create an alliance, lead it, then get mad, drunk, destroy a few golem and leave your server.

daydream.2938:

If you want to know a spec that works in paids and has success. check out twitch tv. teldoo, heplays paids as engy well.
Far as i know hes the only engy who does so.

Chaith AKA Five Gauge that posted in this thread is the top EU engineer and posted his build in this thread. He has to look no further.

TCMM jumped ship to NSP? What a surprise

Not like they did it before. I’m sorry for you guys at NSP! Rob you have my sympathie.

That’s weird to make a recruiting topic when you have been on this server for what? few days?

Keyba.9570:

@Jscull, tell your char mesmer, and Human ele it was a pleasure fighting them with Kardiamond.

Yep, me and Keyba were PAXA hunting all night yesterday

Sadly we didn’t have a 5 man team, more like a 2-3man team without TS with some pugs sometime.

Good thing Keyba is a walking wall, because I’m still geared like an upleveled player in WvW!

@Dlechesnut

I heard the grenade from falling traits share the same cooldown then grnade from kit refinement.

Since you are using it, is it right?

@Kostbabis

Sorry man, but that’s how it works for engineer.

If we have a competitive build it will usually get nerfed next.

Look for the soon to be nerf on AoE damage to nerf this build! ;D

Thanks for the answer guys!

@Chaith

I often use slick shoes as offence, and yes it’s really useful.

But overall, I think you are right and Elixir S has way more utility.

And what about Bleed over burn? I didn’t do any hard check up, but when I carpet bomb a node and I have to grenade spam 2-3 people, The bleed on explosion traits seem to be more efficient then the burn with ICD.

Incendiary Powder seems to be more about single target damage. It does damage faster but doesn’t last long.

Shrapnel seems to be more for group encounter. No ICD, and 15% proc on every grenade. The bleed hold on for 15 seconde, so they stack well on people.

I still think I might be gimping myself a bit more by using shrapnel, but I lover the AoE bleed!

@MaximeP

Thank you good sir!

I misssed those kind of post. Plok was a bit quiet lately, and Rob didn’t drunk post for a while. (I still love you Robert :P)

Each morning, we have a meeting on Anvil Rock. Just to remember everybody to focus only on NSP, because we have such a good reliationship with BP! We wouldn’t want to destroy that.

We shall now change our tactics, since “Anvil Rock is running to get a bad reputation on WvW right now”. We wouldn’t want that. Who dare attack a server that is already under attack, that is so low! It should never happen in a 1vs1vs1.

;)

I think it was a misquote or something.

But seems like Rayns had a rage moment on the forum.

RaynStargaze.6510:

Ayestes.1273:

I`m stupid incompetent and cant really use my brain at all so i just troll the forums

So heres my list for kitten like you who need other ppl to tell them in detail how to play

2 Eles

Scepter Dagger + valkyrie because only kitten play dagger dagger – dagger dagger doesnt work with 5 crit skill because it has too many hits in general (anyone with a brain couldve figured that out – you apparently couldnt)

Dragons tooth hits between 8K to 10K Fire grab around 6K (those are GUARANTEED! crits) + phoenix which is just plain awesome

You need someone to lock the enemy down for dragons tooth to connect – thats why you got 2 eles (mesmer also pretty good at that) and the rest of your team (def guards always bring good lockdown as well)

not only that but the eles also both got 2 AOE! heals for a little more than 1.5K each adding up to 6K Aoe heal even without their actual heal skills and without any healing scaling

They both get sic thoughness from valkyrie and max power + crit dmg

Ele has average base vitality

Both eles have aoe condi rmv – both eles have decent amount of vigor!!!! and swiftness both eles have ride the lightning for insane mobility

both eles can creathe a fire field and throw in up to 3 blast finishers (usually you dont see more than 2 because the earth one has too high cd) for up to 18!!!! stacks of AOE!!! might with 20 second duration

and you want to tell me valkyrie damage is bad?

you seriously want to tell me this isnt op as hell?

this conversation ends here im sick of talking to kitten like yourself – 90% of the mmo crowd is just too kitten stupid to play i swear…

Where the hell did that come from?

Ahahah

Hey don’t recrute too much!

We need more match up like this! Even if we lose, if it’s by a thin margin it’s all good!

Prestige being retroactive would not be fun for me.

I play for progression, and I want to progress from 0, not from retroaction.

Maullus.1273:

Kardiamond.6952:

I usually, after net shotting someone, I jump shot them to set up my combo. But the issue is it take longer and kinda give out my combo. I see you are “walking” in people, don’t you have an issue with collision? I can’t see your video right now. But half the time when I walk inside people, I collid with them and cant enter their body (sound weird).

Go to “Options” and turn off “Melee Target Assistance” or whatever it’s actually called.

You mean that collision is caused by melee target asistance?

You mean my 100 nade build can just be twice as effective by unchecking this? :P

I find the 1 sec you need to switch to ether Gear shield or Grenade is a lot when facing a thief. But yeah, elixir S is prolly the answer.

I have a hard time playign a too generic build, that’s why I’m trying to push Slick shoe in that build!

Hey Five Gauge,

I learn a lot by watching your video, and I’m happy you finally posted about the 100 nade build. Some players still think it’s a gimmick build, but I think you are the proof this build is solid.

I usually, after net shotting someone, I jump shot them to set up my combo. But the issue is it take longer and kinda give out my combo. I see you are “walking” in people, don’t you have an issue with collision? I can’t see your video right now. But half the time when I walk inside people, I collid with them and cant enter their body (sound weird).

And what do you think about slick shoes over Elixir S? I think we lose some option, especially rez/finishing in mini-me, but I can escape mostly anyone when using it. So If I miss my 100 nade combo, and l’m losing the fight, I can usually run to reset the fight.

Since you are not using the 10 trait to cast Elixir S at 25% hp, what do you do vs bursting Thief? How do you counter them?

Thank you!

@NevirSayDie

It’s less then that. I think it’s about 20 second.

@Vyndetta

I got Feedbacked once by a mesmer, and man did it hurt :P

@Mickers

No, this is our Static Discharge build.

@Yasha

The burst shouldn’t hit you more then a BS thief. I only one shot glass cannon, balanced build will usually survive this combo.

@Gilgamesh

Say that to Five Gauge, who use it in paid tpvp. Teldo also use it I think.

You don’t only rely on your combo. The deal with 100 nade build, is that you have many others option.

You have many defensive cooldown,
You have 1500 range grenade spam,
You have CC,
You have rifle dps.

If you only rely on your combo, maybe you’ll be stuck in spvp. But you only need Grenade kit for this build, the rest is up to you.

Right now, HotJoin is already a deathmatch.

Few people play to win, the majority play to kill.

Plok.6145:

Then you have been hiding in a deep deep hole. We have been one of the few guilds out there with any kind of consistency.

PS NSP Continue to grew a set and attack AR, kthxbai

Plok I mess you, how come you don’t post more like before!

You used to accuse Anvil Rock of all kind of thing.

For sure Tier 1 server will defend those tier, they have to recruit people.

I prefer the casual nature and gank squad of lower tier. More fun, less zerging.

Well you need some drawback.

It doesn’t make one shotting people anymore fair

Enji,

Do you mean it shares a CD between the kit refinement effect? Not sure I understand.

But from my experience, it doesn’t. I’m not sure 100>%, but never had that issue. Maybe because I don’t switch enought during a fight, i usually don’t too.

But anyway, heal kit has 0 cooldown, so I doubt it would make you miss your grenade.

I also used toolkit to pull people and combo them. So I really don’t think there is a shared CD. And even without the combo, you can win a fight.

If you go sPvP, it’s the paradise for 100 nade. In tPvP, didn’t do enought yet with this build. But Top Engineer seems to like it. Like Five Gauge who use it a lot.

@Assassin

That’s why I think this build is over the board.

You only need 1 utility for the combo. So you have 2 free utility to support you the way you want.

You can Range Grenade people with a lot of Conditions damage.
You have a lot of defensive CD with toolkit and elixir S.
You have a free stomp.
You have a one shotting combo.
You have perma swiftness.
You have CC.

I’m not saying it’s worse then the other FotM build, but this build have a lot going on.

The combo could be toned down a bit, and our other build (turret, condition, BUNKER, even DS) buffed a bit.

Toble.2968:

Also, about double teaming, I have no clue what BP is thinking when they were trebbing Dreaming bay and trying to take it the other night while their borderlands was all but garrison blue.

Simply doesn’t make much sense.

There was also a rather large BP camp flipping team in the midst of one of the multiple AR golem rushes while AR Currently held quite a chunk of BP borderlands.

Tactically, what is BP thinking?

The only point gain BP loses is to anvil rock, really, they seem to have a larger population and can field more maps.

NSP is clearly one of the more heavy EB servers. (We have more commanding guilds there than in NSP) What is the point of not attempting to push back in your own borderlands?

Sometime, you have to attack the other borderland to release some pressure from your own.

Also, BP and AR will take any chance they have to attack each other, trust me.

@Pannoncica

So your counter to pie is to CC people? That’s a counter to the glass cannon himself, not the pie.

For any glass cannon worth a penny, they won’t fall to CC. Any glass cannon build should have a CC breaker.

Do you really need that big of an advantage to kill someone?

The gear disparancy between a casual and an hardcore is already big enought (upleveled vs Exotic/ascended lvl 80?), if you add to this the consumable, you don’t even need skills anymore to win fights.

I’m all for consumable, but add an ICD. What’s the issue about having ICD? The nerf will be the same for everyone. (I can use that too :P)

EnRohbi.2187:

Kardiamond.6952:

It’s not overpowered, but it’s cheesy.

If Anet add a one shotting weapon in game, and give it to everyone, it will be balanced for everyone that use it, but it won’t be a good thing ether.

The pie is way too strong if you compare to any other food, and is a way too big factor in a fight.

Take two engineer. One with pie, the other without it. Both using Flamethrower.

The pie user will finish with about full hp, and the other one will be dead.

A consumable shouldn’t be so strong. Like other said, you can just go glass cannon and use it, and be a better tank then a +heal specced tank with low damage.

I hope they put an ICD, like everything else. Even If I can easily abuse it right now with my engineer.

Okay,
I can tell you from experience about using Omnom Pies (I pair it with Sup. Sigil of Blood too) with a Glass cannon fully traited for precision, that it is not nearly that bad.

Omnom Pies are great Food for GC Classes,
But most GC classes have no additional healing power, and Omnom Pies heal for like 400~ health per tick. It is very, very, very easy to outdamage that amount of healing. No class with any amount of burst will actually have trouble dealing with lifesteal.

People are getting all worked up over something that is not at all game breaking.

You forgot something.

Most attack are AoE damage, I should make a video of me using my flamethrower.

Rapid fire + Aoe Cone attack = Massive healing.

Same thing with Grenade, I can stand on the wall, throw grenade all day, and heal myself up from average damage.

Some build have really fast attacking pace, and they can regen really fast with that buff.

Most can attack more then once a sec, and since most got more then 50% crit chance, like you said that’s at least 400 healing a sec. That’s a lot for a glass cannon.

Do you need that video? I don’t mind making it later tonight. The regen with Flamethrower is crazy.

It’s not overpowered, but it’s cheesy.

If Anet add a one shotting weapon in game, and give it to everyone, it will be balanced for everyone that use it, but it won’t be a good thing ether.

The pie is way too strong if you compare to any other food, and is a way too big factor in a fight.

Take two engineer. One with pie, the other without it. Both using Flamethrower.

The pie user will finish with about full hp, and the other one will be dead.

A consumable shouldn’t be so strong. Like other said, you can just go glass cannon and use it, and be a better tank then a +heal specced tank with low damage.

I hope they put an ICD, like everything else. Even If I can easily abuse it right now with my engineer.

@Serperucaz

With the build you have to specify the combo!

Get inside the ennemy (I mean closer then melee range, you have to be “inside” them") Throw your grenade barrage (Grenade toolbelt skill) and switch to grenade kit. Switching to grenade will produce another Grenade barrage.

You will have a grenade barrage of 8 grenade, and one of 6. Each one can crit for 1k 1.5k.

Why do you have to be inside? The kit refinement grenade barrage spread too much if you use it next to an ennemy. You’ll hit with few grenade. If you do it inside the ennemy, the grenade explod right away, right before spreading. Doing maximum damage.

@Ayestes

I love when it happens! :P

@Dee jay

None of those are fun.

Well I personnaly really think one shotting build hurt the game.

I use the 100 nade build, because I feel gimped if I don’t use it. To be honest, I have some fun one shotting people. But on the other end, the player I one shotted have 0 fun. And I have 0 fun when a thief surprise me and one shot me with quickness.

I prefer a more balanced approch. Sadly we don’t have many effective build as an engineer. :P