Guild Wars 2

Using Elixir S doesn’t count you as on point? kitten didn’t know that.

That’s bad, I love this elixir! Still good, but I wonder why it’s like that. Is it the same for other invul effect like myst form?

Tyaen.5148:

Kardiamond.6952:

Also, if I’m not mistaken, it’s not a regen buff. It’s a heal over time.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Super_Elixir

Yeah that’s it.

It’s a pulse heal, so it won’t override your regen buff.

For PvE,

I first used my necro in FOtM, getting it to something like leveling 16. It was pretty easy and I could help out my allies with wells and conditions removal.

Now that I ran some FotM (level 10 now), I have a really harder time to run FotM. I really miss my Deathshroud Especially since I’m a power engineer, I have to go in melee range to do a lot of damage, but I can’t survive a lot.

I have to spec multi kit with kit refinement to be able to survive a bit, but still.

Engineer in FotM seems to be a lot harder then my necromancer.

However, Engineer are still a pretty cool and fun to play! Leveling is easy and farming with DS or grenade or FT is awesome!

Also, if I’m not mistaken, it’s not a regen buff. It’s a heal over time.

Give some feedback when you try, I had hard time holding one guy alone with a build similar to your, but I’m a really bad bunker.

Like Toolbox said,

I would love to have a turret kit. It should have been like that at start.

Using more then one turret gimp you so much. If you use two, your third skill has to be ether a kit (or else you are stuck with only 5 weapon skill, no swap) or a stunbreaker. I don’t like being stuck without any kits, especially since toolkit is designed to be used with turret, but it’s really bad synergy.

As toolbox said, the problem is you would break the utility balance. We have a number of kit, a number of turret, a number of gadget and a number of elixir. You can’t just remove every turret and add a kit. It would be a lot of job to implement and keep the concept.

For your build you should really stay with the P/P, lacking the torch burn would hurt your dps.

And I forgot about the build.

How are you doing vs Guardiian and Tanky Elem? I usually try a bunker build, then switch back to dps once I fight one of them and they overlast me so bad.

I agree that Automated response is a lot weaker in game.

At first I thought it was OP, then I tried it, and dropped it. Sure it will save you some damage, but other skills are a lot better.

The fact that you are still affected be condition pre-25% is the issue. Fighting a condition ennemy, you’ll usually find yourself full of stack of bleed fire and poison, and you’ll die anyway because they continu ticking at 25%.

And that’s without saying that any direct damage class won’t be bothered by this trait! And it’s a GM trait!

Like Seed said, Zerg have a hard time pushing because they don’t know how many ennemies there is.

Wonderful job by Zoose and team, I’m so glad some of our PvP population started WvWing. If only more would follow, our roamer would be unstoppable.

Zoose is your engineer Teldo? What kind of build is he running in WvW?

If [MAN] players are all as good as their tPvP paid team, you sure did the good thing when you ran away.

For poison dart volley, you need to be in close range to have it full effect. From distance it will miss a lot.

@Dhampyr

Most people of Kaineng aren’t trolling about it on the forum. It’s great and I gotta say Good job Kaineng.

BloodHawk might be talking about ingame act.

I got a lot more then usual number of dancing on corpse and laughting from Kaineng then any other server before. Especially annoying when you down someone in a 1vs1, only to have a zerg come by, save him and dance on you.

You can’t control your troll, and those are prolly part of the fair weather players that joined kaineng once they started rolling other server.

Kaineng still have a pretty good attitude, and every server have their troll in game. The number of unclassy act I saw in game are prolly a result of random transfert or bored people.

Also, it ain’t Kaineng fault, but such big transfer with such high tier guild (WM) destroy the low tier match ups. I didn’t log in WvW for more then 4-5 hours this week.

I used to love being the underdog, at release we got a lot of stomping. It was a lot of fun. But it got boring over time, always do camp run, try to get people from LA to make a group of pug, run some tower/camp, and get destroyed by a group of 40 with infinite supply.

Next week match up will be a dream match for us.

BP vs NSP vs AR.

WE had this match up like 2-3 time earlier and NSP were destroying both of us. Now BP will prolly take the lead, but it will be an awesome week!

Hi guys!

While travelling on the marvelous GW2spidy, I was just cheking some items and found the satchel of armor.

I didn’t even knew they existed.

The profit if you make them seems wonderful, but the recipe isn’t easy to get and you have to invest some gold.

Also, if you watch gw2spidy, there are only a few of them up to sale. And some sell for 30 gold, but the highest buyer offert like 2 gold.

Does it mean nobody buy that? Because it cost around 20 gold to make one, so it’s no small change.

Anybody tried?

P.S : I read old post saying they were bugged, that they costed more to make then make the individual armor piece. A dev said it was a bug, did it get resolve?

@SimpleKingly

You got to understand something.

If you come on the forum, post a video of your engineer winning 1vs1 in SPVP saying :
The main point for this video was to shut some whiney little kids up about how the engineer is an underpowered class.

You are asking to be flamed. We have a hard time getting in the paid tpvp meta, and you come here and call everyone whiney littl kids and prove it to us with poor spvp hot join fights?

Man, I can make a video of me kicking butt in sPvp hotjoin with a 4 turret build (I actually did it yesterday, man it was bad) and it still wouldn’t prove anything. It’s Hotjoin, anyone can kill anyone, with any build.

Thanks for the information!

As other players stated, did it get tested? I used siege to defend place, and I don’t remember hitting more then 5 players.

From what I heard, DR lost some people after hitting the T5 wall. If that’s the case, they will prolly get stomped by Kain.

Kaineng got one of the strongest night presence I fought since release, and they have a lot of premade guild running around.

EB will play a role too, depending where they hit.

But I wouldn’t bet on DR in this one.

@Maskaganda

If we have to keep the random effect, at least make it stronger.

How many time, like TGA, did I get random kitten by Elixir S toolbet, getting stability over stealth. Each time it happens I know I couldn’t do anything about it, it was just a RNG throw.

Like Elexir X, I got a random chance of getting ether tornado or rampage. Both other classe Elite. For the same result then them, I might get an elite that is no use in that situation.

If I attack a group, I want tornado. If I solo someone, I don’t mind ether one. But getting rampage when you attack a group, is asking to die.

If I have to put up with randomness, I want to have a better effect.

Or Just remove RNG and give us the solution someone posted previously.

Throw elixir S
60% hp and more → Stability
59% hp and less → Stealth

At least you know what you’ll get.

I used this build all evening yesterday to test it out. I had to train a bit to land it.

I agree that once you land it, you will do crazy damage.

But it’s so hard to land on a good player!

This combo require the ennemy to be immobilized if you want it to reliable, and you have to use jump shot to be sure to be “in” the ennemy.

If the ennemy had any kind of defensive cooldown, I would miss, because as soon as I would jump shot, they would use it. Elem mist form is a bane.

You have to do feint, set up your combo, try not to die (You have around 2k armor and 17k hp using this build, thief can insta jib you.) Once you miss your combo (if you use it a bit to the side, if the ennemy block it, if it doesn’t crit enought) your dps go down the roof. You are pretty dead for 20 seconde.

I don’t think this build can make it into the META of tPvP, I might be wrong, but it’s more a hotjoin troller.

But I agree with OP. It will get nerfed. Every time the engineer get a build that might make it into the meta, we got nerfed. We already got our Grenade Barrage nerfed, I’m pretty sure they can do it again.

I tried it all evening yesterday, once you get it, the combo is actually really powerful. But it’s really hard to pull it off on good player. You have to feint and try to make them burst their defensive CD.

Once they did, net short, jumpshort, and right before you land, GB + Switch to grenade. I used a bit net turret, it can be effective to set up the short, you kinda have 3+ net with the rifle and the toolbet one.

Personal battering ram is also good to set up your jump shot.

This build is carnage in sPvP. People will prolly cry for nerf, but I doubt it would be viable in paid tpvp.

@Anvil Pants

I used to play WvW only, becuase I thought everythng else was boring. When it becomes unplayable in WvW and it’s your only option, it’s really does sucks.

Now at least I have PvP, but still it’s annoying when I want to go WvW to relax and find myself in that kind of match up.

@Alarox

While Grenade barrage are along our top damage spec, our Static Discharge build are prolly our best burst, that and the new flavor that is double grenade barrage. But Static Discharge is a lot easier to use, and more efficient overall.

And for the OP, tool kit was buffed and is now a really viable kit. In sPvP, the gear shield, prybar and nails are really good. I have a hard time playing without it.

And by the way, you hit the guy with one swirl from GS, and he got to 30% HP.

You had to hit him twice, and he would be dead.

This is a pure glass cannon vs glass cannon situation.

I don’t like it, but that’s how the game work already. Your combo is easier to pull, but does less damage.

@Zone

The only way this combo can work, is be being in the ennmy, and using it. Exactly like your video.

Mistake one : You got it by net shot
Mistake two : You didn’t use any defensive cooldown
Mistake three : You got no armor if he can hit for 8k with grenade barrage.

Thief can do the same thing, do it with a easier combo, and use stealth and mobility.

It’s DD damage.

Somoene did a calculation of the DPS of each sigil on auto attack.

The top sigil were Sigil of Air and Sigil of Fire. The worse being Sigil of Fraility, but it’s a team debuff.

To the person who said Thief were designed for burst, and aren’t made for attriction fights like Necro, please reconsider your position.

Check Wild bill bideo for a P/D attriction build, that’s more efficient then an attriction necro.

Also evilapprentice, I doubt any engineer would mind if you took our turret!

Send me those 100 gold and some real life cash so I can take vacation, I should be good to follow your guide.

@Visionary

He never said he died!! But he came close to, that’s enought for a mesmer to post on the forum about it.

P.S : I think we deserve a nerf for it, Man we nearly killed a mesmer!

@SimpleKingly

So Since you found the secret build to own them all, how about you go in tPvP and show us some video? I really wonder how it will go?

I don’t think this build is bad, thatMs the usual Migh/condition build, but with some weird traits.

Why the last 10 points in Explosives? For stats? Don’t think you need so much that cripple to get steel packed explosive, which is useless in your build.

Otherwise, I think it’s a nice build! But to say : “With all the people saying Engi is the most UP class in the game and then using this build, I can say for a fact that isn’t true. Try it out!” because you ran this build in SPVP for 3 hours, is a bit insulting for anyone who work there kitten off in tPvP to be useful.

Yep, Kaineng is on a whole other level then us right now. Anvil Rock doesn’t have any night, we don’t have much hardcore guild in WvW, and we have a lot of PuG.

The difference between Kaineng and Anvil Rock on primetime might not be so much about population, but more about PuG population.

When I join WvW, I see multiple guild tag on our side. A lot of random. A lot more PuG then any premade guild.

When I see kaineng, I always see the same tag. WM, SE, RE, SOS. They are few big guild that control the flow. They can team work better, and they have a better skill cap.

It’s like a Premade vs PuG match up this week.

I don’t have anything again Kaineng, but that kind of multiple mass transfer kinda destroy our balance. At least it’s only for a week. Can’t wait for the next week match up.

That’s so annoying. Even when I try 13/16 server, sometime I get this delay. It drives me crazy when I get it 3 time in a row.

@Toolkit

This is the best toolkit we have. What it lacks in damage, it makes up in utility. I nearly use it on every build I run in spvp.

You don’t use it for auto attack, you use everything else.

Use magnetic aura to interrupt + prybar.

Gear shield is a life saver, low cd + 3 seconde of block. It saved me so many time.

Need some space? Use #2 and LoS your ennemies. They will be slowed down and you are now free to escape.

the #1 attack was supose to be used to keep our turret up, but our turret are non competitive. That’s why our #1 is so poor.

Here the skills I think deserve a remake, from a spvp point of view:

BlowTorch : This skill seems to miss way too much. Not sure whats the deal with it, prolly the same thing then flamethrower miss.

Rocket Boots : Looks good in theory, not so much in game. The self stun is just way to bad of a draw back. Each time I use it, I find myself suffering a combo because I’m laying on the ground. Some combo breaker have invulnerability for a duration, we have a self stun.

Personal Battering Ram : Could use some range, but overall a good skill.

Slick Shoes : I’m trying to make a build around it, but it’s really hard. Other defensive skill just seems to be better at the job. Elexir S is better for the same job. The duration is too short (1 sec for each “spot”), the area of effect seems to be too small. And 60 sec cooldown is huge.

Super Speed : Not bad, would be cool to have a bonus effect along with it. It Just feel too simple.

Throw Mine : I don’t know why, I just don’t use this skill. Each time I use it, I’m telling myself : A stun, damage and boon removal, niiice! But it’s just seems lack luster in game. The damage is low, and it’s hard to land it.

Mine field : If the range of detonating bugged? When used against me, I have to directly walk on them to activate them. Damage is also a bit low.

Turrets : Cooldown are too long, damage are too low. You have to sacrifice your utility slot for them. If you want a turret build, and you take at least 2 turret, it mean ether no kits (you are stuck with only 1 weapon) or no Stun breaker. They can get insta destroyed with the AoE in this game. They have a low damage output, some have really low range (thumper turret really). Rifle turret is only used because of the toolbelt skill.

Mortar : Useless in spvp, really low efficiency in WvW. Grenade are better.

Flamethrower : #1 miss too much, got an average damage output (our only efficient damage in this kit). The number #2 bug too many time, the damage on the explod should be higher since it’s a skill shot. the #5 isn’t bad, but should have a additional effect. Like weakness.

Elixir Gun : Damage is low, but this is a support kit. the #2 miss a lot, it’s not reliable. The missile speed is way too slow. The #3 is so situational, low range cone effect used for 1 sec of poison and dispel conditions from allies. But hitting allies never happens. Should dispel conditions from yourself. #4 isn’t bad, but shouldn’t be affected by your movement speed. The #5 was perfect before last patch.

Jscull.2514:

A guild should not be called hardcore that runs only in 10+. Thats not hardcore, thats just a guild Zerg bird song. Stop giving props to people undeserving.

If my co-player would still be there, I would be happy to mop the floor with you and your crew.

A group of premade stacking and attacking PUG in WvW shouldn’t be “called” hardcore ether.

Use your premade TS group in tPvP. Lets see what you are made of.

P.S : I’m only responding because of your “better then everyone” attitude. I usually think roaming group are pretty cool and I’m looking forward for them. But your attitude is too much, and I fought you once with a pug and we wiped you and your invis ganking.

If I can set up a roaming group, I’ll be sure to hunt you down.

@DayDream

Don’t think so, If it ever looks like a Meta-possible build, it will prolly get nerfed before we can use it.

But as Powerr said, the one that made that build popular by streaming it : “The engineer is prolly the worse in pvp right now”. Even with that “godlike” cookie cutter build.

Like I said in the spvp forum, this build is a one hit wonder. You have to be inside the ennemy for optimal damage, meaning they have to stay in place for your burst.

Engineer have nearly 0 presence in the competitve scene, and we have been nerfed the last 3 patch, with one being 30% damage nerf on grenade.

I don’t think we can stand anymore nerf.

So Darnis, did you try to combo yourself? Create a level 1 engin, and try to use the combo in tpvp.

Tell me how good it went.

I tried it all week end, it’s going to work like once every 10 fights, if you hit a glass cannon.

Others will just laught at you.

Our static discharge build are a lot better in my experience.

This build is such a one hit wonder.

Sure if you can pull it off, you can do some damage.

But vs good player it’s impoossible to pull. You have to be “IN” the ennemy to use it at full potential. If you don’t do it perfectly, your grenade will spread out and do low damage.

Juhst use your defensive cooldown once he immobilize you, and he is dead. After his combo, he doesn’t have anything else for 30 sec.

And it doesn’t hit for 16k. Never seen that.

And by the way, our grenade damage got reduced by 30%. So please we can’t take anymore nerf. We aren’t even part of the Top tier meta. Give us a break.

Kaplis -> I doubt it.

Elem DD got such a boost in popularity because since release they had yet to find a good build. The game was really young and new build were still being tested.

Most engineer build have been tested, and even if we discover new one, it shouldn’t be different enought to offer any kind of pure awesomess like it did for DD.

I think a good player can do fairly well in sPvP, but we don’t have much place in the current META.

Especially since we got a 30% damage nerf on our only viable build.

Before the nerf, it wasn’t even FotM.

@Rob

Since NSP while stay with us next week, lets try to give those Kaineng and all their transfers a warm welcome!

Tornado is only lack luster vs single boss with stability or cc immune.

It can be good in every situation. You can still do some good damage with the static discharge from it, or use blind to buy some time for your team.

By the way, you still get 2x vitality in tornado form, so you get pretty tanky.

15 sec of invulnerability would be OP.

But vs boss in PvE, Supply drop is still the choice to go. And I agree that mortar is really Lackluster, only useful in some gimmick situation in WvW by using #5 on mortar.

Yeah to knockback of tornado is really great, tho a bit unpredictable.

Tried it again in WvW and Fractal yesterday. WvW it still kick kitten just lvoe tornado.

In Fractal, it’s average. You can stack some might on your ally for extra damage, but the ult itself is lackluster again bosses.

NSP and AR should ally for the next match up.

We can’t let those Kaineng ginger come here for the first time and have it their way>!

We miss you too GoM! And BP!

I’m sure soon enought we will be back togheter in the same match up, calling hacks and exploit.

If NSP get to tier 7, they have a really strong night presence. Not sure how it will go!

@Levian

Sanctum of Rall is my favorite just because of the history of the name.

Anyway, don’t come to Anvil Rock. We fight pretty hard but we only won once since release, twice if we count this week. We fight until the end, and we can’t afford fair weather player. If you switch server as soon as you get outmanned and lack a commander, I would recommand a top 1-2 server.

:)

@Armadeus

I was supose to have some footage from WvW, but I got lazy. I used this build a bit in WvW, it’s not bad at all. But I didn’t have the gear for it (Had berserker stuff, wrong rune, and wrong sigil) making my might buff hard to keep up.

Also, Elixir X is great vs group of ennemies, but in WvW if you become a giant you become the target for everyone, making it really hard.

But you can do crazy hit and run. I was defending pangloss, and was using jump shot + blundershot to hit the zerg. Before they could react, I would use Elixir X, and if I had the luck to get tornado, I would wreck chaos around. Zerg tend to retreat when you put pressure, and it’s exactly what tornado does. If you get low hp, dispel it and use gear shield to return to safety.

I could repeat it each 80 sec for maximum chaos. And it’s epic to be a tornado and wrecking tons of people, throwing them around and zapping them with electric charge.

When under the influence of Elixir X, I gotta say it can be hard to finish somoene. You don’t have a big burst of damage.

But once you get everybody around low HP with heals on cooldown, your Elixir X will dispel and you will be able to combo them to them.

With might stack, even if we don’t have Static discharge, we can still do a final burst with the net shot + blunder + jump shot combo. Overcharge shot them then magnetic pull + Prybar. This combo can finish most people, and is hard to dodge if you land your net.

But I agree with you, this build is more about substained damage. With 15-20 stack of might in average, your rifle auto attack alone can dish 1.2 – 1.7k damage from range. Add to this your burn damage affected by might that can hit for 500 damage a tick and your bleeds from traits.

Me : Engineer
Feared : Mesmer -> If I miss my stun I’m dead, and phantasm/illusion block stuns.
Elem DD -> Even If I dodge everything, I often lack the burst to take them down.
Least feared : Glass Cannon Ranger → Easy to combo, die fast.

Reido Kyuuten.4709:

Well that was fun. NSP’s pro nigthcap crew somehow gathered up ~10 people (a group of 6 of us and some randoms who decided to follow us) to take bay (under AR control) in DH borderlands after DH had trebbed the wall to 25% for us.

But then everyone bailed and 4 of us (including a lvl 42 and lvl 6) hilariously tried to take the garrison but failed thanks to ~10 DH. Good catch guys (not that you really had to try), but you really couldn’t catch me while I ran to bay?

tldr: You’re welcome for the beating.

~The Wolfpack & Associates (not to be confused with ‘The Wolfpack & Associates [Wolf]’ guild)

Why would you censore your skill baar ahaha

Hi there!

Last week, I was theocrafting and decided to setup a gimmick build only for fun. I used it in pvp ffor sometime and it actually pretyt good, well for me.

This build resolve around stacking as much might as you can (up to 25 in a fight) and using Elixir X for insane result, especially with tornado in group fights.

Here a short video about it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tUgfa-Rp5k

The build (Copy Paste in browser):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlspSXHwSyF87ICIF5lfJ6xjBZT2HFs1DC;ToAA2CnoCykjIHrOugk6ME5IC

Notes :

- Any attack from tornado will knockback when you are near the ennemy. I prefer to use #1 attack because it mimics Static Discharge and does crazy damage when you are in a group of ennemy. (5 ennemy = 5 DS at the same time, bouncing between them)

- Tornado seems to have a mini pulse attack going on. Meaning that confusion is your worse ennemy (like Mesmer weren’t annoying already). It’s gonna hit you like a truck.

- Giant is weird. You can really focus a single player and keep it stunned for a good amount of time. But some skill like the shoulder charge and the kick won’t always hit even if you are directly in front of them. It’s particulary buggy when you are on the move.

- Elixir C is incredible. You lack any kind of conditions removal in this build, so you need it. If you get spammed with conditions, popping this will save your life and give you even more boon. If you randomly get some might stack, it’s perfect.

- Spam all your elixir (yes even heal) before a fight. They will be on cooldown, but most of the time, I Net + Rifle combo them then go Elixir X right away. So I won’t need heal anytime soon. You’ll stack might like a foul!

- You have to stack your might before going Elixir X. Stacking 15-20 of might and boons with Elixirs will catapult your efficiency in Elixir X. Your burn on crit will also activate from your attack.

- With your massive HP pool (but low armor) with Elixir X You can hold multiple ennemies on a point. People love to hit the giant or the tornado, so they will all focus on you. Your ally can quietly go cap other points.

- I picked Fast Acting Elixir and Potent Elixir to reduce the cooldown and increase the duration of Elixir X. Elite Supplies has the same effect on Elixir X then Potent Elixir, but both effect won’t stack.

Give it a try, I used to hate Elixir X. But It’s actually pretty good, especially if you get a Tornado in a group of ennemies.

This thread is endless.

“By playing all professions you’ll never see all the pro and cons of each one of them, with this set in stone how do you plan in giving an objective opinion regarding one particular profession when you don’t know the full potential of any?”

I don’t even need to reply to that. Your whole arguments is full of contration.

And Sataar is still too full of himself to understand that a buff is the same thing then a nerf. In the end you have to same result.