Thief d/d or staff hits like a truck single target. Staff can cleave 3-5 targets instead of two. So has decent AoE potential.
Non moving targets with small hitbox, dagger warhorn ele.
Multi-target I’m not quite sure on but my power reaper melts mobs.
Fixed.
And ele with dagger/warhorn is not really annoyed by moving target since almost all the skill you have can be used while moving.
Ele with staff have the best aoe potential. And the best DPS on big hitbox.
Thief is good DD in theory, but in practice I wonder where is all the boons and support when I play it. Ele can still be number one because of this fact since he provides natural might boons via fire fields and fire overload.
Ele is top dps, but it’s way too fragile than any other class.
This is just for PvE, I think speaking about dealing damage in pvp is… pointless.
Okay wait a minute. Someone said that elementalists are the the strongest class. Really? Is that just in PvP (which I don’t do) or everything? I’m wondering about this because I have a Lvl 80 Ele, and I get clobbered in PvE regularly. It may be that I will have to use some of the ideas I’ve seen on YouTube rather than my own, which I’ve somewhat resisted doing up to now, or I may just not be that good at ele. What do you guys think: Is ele the strongest class?
It’s not the strongest class, but it’s one of (if not the better) best dps. But it’s also the most fragile, and if you have a staff, you can lose some dps while moving during a cast. You also lose dps when you have to switch with water attunement when you don’t want to die and need some heals or you want to heal others players, for some reasons.
You do realize staff Ele as a ranged class out-DPSes most melee classes?
only against things that don’t move
damage to moving targets is worse than other ranged classes
by a lot
This only apply to staff tempest. Tempest dagger/horn, even if your target move you deal a really good amount of damage. All the skills can be used while moving.
But well you’re right since the initial reply was about ele as “ranged” class. But as a tempest staff, you should stay around melees because it’s a dps loss if you don’t.
Oh and please, tell me where I can find a good MMO where you HAVE TO pay the expansion to be a “winner” as you said?
HoT is an EXPANSION. Do you really know what it is?
-Seriously? An expansion with additionnals/advantages contents than a base game? OMG? Is it true? /sarcasm
Oh and a Elite spec that are better than a simple job and a base spec. Do you know what Elite means? Simple : open a dictionnary.
But well, people loves to complain for everything.
Tou have the right to complain about it but please do it well with better arguments, this is just pointless. You can say you don’t like it but of course you can’t be better without the expansion, it’s obvious.
With the same effort you’re getting with HoT to 150 AR you’re getting without HoT to 100AR. With the expansion you’re missing out on 50AR and that’s gamebreaking at Fractals 90 and above. Because you’re getting agony for staying in the near of your allies. And when you’re missing out on 50AR … you’re dead.
Okay, but please tell me how much people do 78+ levels in fractal?
Oh and do you gain something more doing these levels? Do you gain more stats? More powerful weapons? No. These levels are currently useless anyway, it’s just here for the challenge and a 100% chance fractal gold weapon, but it’s just a skin and ugly imo.
I agree that a 3% is almost nothing. But remember : you’re not alone and you are in a team with 9 others players.
3% from 1 player is nothing, but 3% from 10 players is definitely not negligible, in theory.
But in practice, the raidwide damage is only ~3% more efficient, only because the math is from all the members dps. These flat 3% raidwide damage can save you from the enrage, for example.
Edit : it seems that 2% is more accurate (3% is certainly with infusions), but even 2% can save you from a wipe.
But keep in mind that foods/etc gives %stats, more stats you get the better.
What I see is, everyone said a such changement will not be noticeable. At least for those agree with the idea.
So, why Anet should bother with it, if it’s useless? There are others things better to change/do.
I think the cap is fine, really, for the same reasons mentionned by Illconceived Was Na. (yes, I don’t agree with you all that said it will not change (or barely) anything)
Originally legendary weapons had higher stats than exotics but could not be changed, they then introduced the changeable stats and finally brought in ascended as a ‘poor person’s legendary’
No, it was the same stats. They upgraded the stats with the ascended weapons patch.
Fractals will be like “raids boss” with some phases if I understand correctly, with less difficulty of course. This is probably the best thing about fractals.
This isnt what anyone wants to hear, but by simple definition the best MMO is the one that has the most players, and makes the most money for its creator.
You can guess which one that is.
So, from my understanding of the AP standard defenders,
Anyone below my AP is a scrub and doesn’t know how to play the game.
Anyone below my AP require is a scrub and doesn’t know how to play the game.
This is based on no actual fact or proof, its just me making something up and claiming it as fact.
And….you wonder why this is mocked?
Let’s look at a job for someone as a secretary.
You’re treating it as if they’re saying it’s an absolute. It’s not.
It’s no different than companies requesting potential employees to have a certain number of years experience. Does it mean that the potential employees will have the skill level to perform the job adequately? No. We’ve seen plenty of people who are terrible at their jobs but still employees. Should companies stop using experience as a filter criteria?
All AP does is allow some players a way to filter players. It measures general experience level with the game but of course it doesn’t measure skill level. Does it affect you? No. Can you create your LFG without any restrictions? Yes.
Just for pointed out, I have only 6k AP, but my play time is really high, I have done pretty much all the content and my account have 3 years.
I just don’t care about dailies, I rarely do them.
When you said “It measures general experience level with the game” this is somewhat true but not totally. Some of the time when players get 10k+ AP it’s from dailies, dailies are repetitive and doesn’t gives any relevant experience from the game. Oh and if you played Guild Wars 1, you get some free AP without knowing how to play the game.
Some people just log on and do their dailies. They play like 1 hour per day. Their play time is low ut they have like 10k AP.
AP is not good at measuring play time nor is for relevant experience.
There’s a pretty big demand for accessible and rewarding 5-man instances, and a lot of people miss the daily dungeon tours. Thus, fractals have to be quick and easy because they are replacing dungeons.
Raids are the go-to for time consuming and challenging instances.
yeah fractals that gives end-game stuff and a lot of golds have to be easy. you’re right. /sarcasm
All levels will be necessary for the last Ad infinitum collection/leaderboard anyway, just wait & see more people doing others fractals for the shiny.
I go into WvW about every day. I see lots of people playing on all sides. Not sure why people keep saying the it’s dead. If it was dead then no one would be in there playing and that is just not the case, there are lots playing. Maybe YOU don’t play it anymore but others still do.
It’s right but if you compare with a year ago, it’s way less populated.
In my server it’s … almost dead. There are still people but not that much. ~A year ago, WvW was always full and it was a pain to enter.
The problem is the mega server system, this cause some issue with guild that want to do WvW with guildmates. They just can’t if they aren’t in the same server.
Maybe They should merge servers, like EN servers with EN, FR servers with FR, etc…. in WvW.
Oh and bring back tournaments/old maps and new rewards, of course.
I already use toughness on my Necro. And laugh my butt off when I’m the only person alive at Tarir. XD
You shouldn’t need toughness as a necro. Necro is already a sandbag that you can play full zerker or condi without problem. And you will certainly be always the only one alive, even without it.
I have seen players with all levels of AP – some not even knowing what agony resistance is – joining on lvl 32 : as it says fotm 32 right?
So we just walk them on over to the agony checker: if boom dead=kick.
Simples they need to learn some more stuff
This, I agree. AR requirement is fine since it’s a fractal core mechanic. You can do it without but it’s too risky. I understand people that don’t want someone without AR in their party during high fractal levels.
The AR system is here for a reason. You don’t have enough AR? Get some practice with low fractal levels then, and learn how to do them.
AP is bad as requirement. I’ve seen a lot of bad players with 10k+ AP without AR in high levels. It was just a big NOPE for me.
And I have been playing LoL for 5 years where clowns devs were making up some new dumb buzz words almost every day so I know my kitten.
What? They switched it because players were using pip, and players were using pip because pip isn’t some made up word, it is used for the symbols that indicate rank in the military, police, etc, so seemed appropriate to use for the symbols used to indicate rank in PvP leagues.
Maybe if you spent less time playing LoL and more time studying / reading then you would have a vocabulary larger than that of a lemon.
pardon me good sir but english is not my native language and here’s what i get from searching “pip” on google
Here’s what I don’t really get. Yes, there are those that create their own LFG with whatever restrictions that they wish. They created the LFG so they are completely free to do this. What I haven’t seen is these players coming onto the forums to chastise players who don’t agree with what they’re doing other than to defend themselves.
What I do see are those that disagree with AP being used as a restriction, which doesn’t even affect them 99% of the time, come onto the forums and belittle them. Who are really the toxic ones here? Those players are not coming into your group demanding all of you to have 5K+ AP or whatever it is that they want. They’re creating their own party for that and those that disagree with it can simply ignore it.
If people start creating restrictions for asura only groups are people going to come on here creating threads/posts about how wrong that is and how toxic those players are for doing so?
I hope they continue to use such requirement, this made me laugh whenever I see one of them. I don’t care much about it but when these people are rude, I’m sorry but these people have to be pointed out for their behavior that no one want in a game.
You can ignore it but I don’t think make a thread about it is called a toxic behavior. You are free to share your own opinion with each others in a respectful manner. I don’t think the OP was rude and toxic at all.
Once I’ve seen an announce, “hot girls only” so I made my own “hot boys only” and it was funny. There was a girl character in my party even so but I didn’t see the point to kick someone because they don’t want to respect my dumb announce. Some people should learn how to play with a community, not with useless rules.
I’ll probably continue to do some dumb announces just for fun, but will never be a requirement.
Even the people who use it know it’s a ridiculous system that doesn’t actually tell them anything except that this person has been in the game longer than a month or so.
Especially considering most achievement points are gained by playing PvE, and often relatively easy PvE like exploring open-world maps and doing the story, or totally unrelated things like jumping puzzles.
If they could they’d be demanding a gear check, or DPS score or whatever else you can judge people on in other games. But they can’t so they settle for what they can judge you on. It’s the “grown up” equivalent of kids whose school brings in a uniform so they can’t judge each other on their clothes, so they judge you on your bag or where you buy your notebook instead.
And yes, even for easy content. You’ll sometimes see the same thing for story mode dungeons.
If you’re not interested in that type of elitist you’re best off just ignoring any party with an AP requirement.
Been in the game for longer than a month is actually not an unreasonable expectation for scale 32 fractal. That requires 29 AR. It takes about a month for 2 rings, 2 accessories and an amulet from pristine relics, laurels and guild commendations. That gives you 25 AR which is still a bit less than 29.
This is wrong. Rings can be dropped with low level fractal dailies and you can buy them with pristine relic. If you are not a free to play player, you can attune these rings that gives agony slot for almost no cost. And the %drop for rings is pretty high.
Yes hello David, I happen to be in said daily party that does this for low level fractals, and chances are you’re referencing us (myself and two friends) by your post.
The vast majority of posters in this thread are right. It’s an easy, albeit occasionally inaccurate way to judge player experience level at a glance and attempt to guarantee that the run will go as quickly and as smoothly as possible.
Does it always work? No. Sometimes we end up being slow anyway, due to people leaving or having the requirement and still being inexperienced. But it can have a large effect on the kind of player that does end up joining our party, and I find we’re generally faster.
Bottom line is: We are not obligated to babysit you, hold your hand, or tell you that it’s going to be okay and that your 2.3k achievement points won’t be an issue. We -could- require you to send us a picture of yourself with a shoe on your head before you joined our party and we could still kick you for not doing it. We’re going to play how we want to play.
I just laugh at your AP requirement. Do you know what I do with these people that doing party with such useless requirement? —-> blacklist. Most of the time these people are toxic, I don’t want to play with them. And your post is a perfect example.
Oh and even with my 6k ap I think I have enough experience from the game. I just don’t care about dailies at all during these 3 years. Just to see you the fact that your requirement is pointless.
Classic GW2 – it’s a realy good game. But HoT – just terrible. for the same money I could buy new fallout and a half of witcher! But i spend it for HoT.
AND WHAT I GOT?
I’m even cant get new specializations, beacause i never liked jumping puzzles – so this crazy new maps just… unplayable for me.
I’m still sit in LA with my old build! I got nothin! even more than nothin – I got a headache. I want try new builds in a fractal, but i cant! I dont understand why.
Why annet force me to do stupid jumping puzzles. I just want play NORMAL PvE and PvP.
HoT – real waste of money…
If you’re on a US server, message me. I’ll show you how to unlock the elite specialization. It won’t take nearly as long as you think, particularly if you have some hero points in core Tyria already.
took me 2 days of casual playing to unlock all the elite spe for my ele… with only a few hero points from core tyria. Simple : Rush dragon stand and do all the hero points here, and then do the easiest soloable one from others maps.
Vayne is right, it’s easy if you already have done them with your main…
But well I guess the thread is 3-4 months ago and elite spe wasn’t nerfed.
2. You need to spend way more time for the new legendary’s than every single old legy! And on top of that you need to spend 500-2000 MORE gold on the new ones. This extreme difference is wrong!
This is soooo wrong. Please tell me your source because the price is almost identical, like 50-100 golds difference.
You complain about something you don’t even know. I guess you should stop to try to arguing more and be better informed about it.
Grind always been there during launch. It’s really absurd to complain about grind in a mmo anyway.
No grind/farm it’s as if you “play” a game already cleared, where you get the best items at the beginning.
What is the point to play a game where you don’t have to do any effort to get them? Tell me one great rpg game where you can have the best stuff without effort.
Whoever said they are not willing to put forth effort? In your world GRIND must equate to EFFORT. I get it.
How about challenging boss mechanics? Group-events? Meta-events? Puzzles? Stronghold defenses? Grind does not equal effort. Ever.
If you want good rewards from those, you have to grind. Grind is equal to effort. Challenging boss mechanics? You have to wipe X times before the down, and need to farm it X times for the shiny. Yeah, it’s a grind, and yes, you need to do some efforts.
I don’t see where it shouldn’t be. It’s not in my world, it’s how it is. Grind always been a core in rpg games. You just get different grind degree depend of the game in question. And Guild Wars 2 is not really that much grindy…
“Easily”, since it’s a low drop rate for gear whose stats you can’t chose, which actually turns the trip into ANOTHER kind of grind.
Please, be sure to be well informed before sharing your opinion. You can change stats whenever you want from ascended gear, and it’s pretty cheap. You can do that even from ascended stuff you get from chests.
Final Fantasy XIV and The Secret World have VERY similar mechanics in terms of gameplay, and on my time playing there I haven’t found problems when it comes to abusing in game mechanics to make stuff “easy”.
This is so wrong. FFXIV have plenty of “safe” spot during gameplay. The thing is, it’s just better designed since fights have often different phases.
The best example is T5, the trick spot wasn’t intented by the developpers, but they didn’t change anything about it because players are free to do their own strategies.
The major issue with Guild Wars 2 boss fight is the fact that it needs more diversity and phases. That’s why Raids have more interesting fights.
Second issue is the support system. Often, skills gives boons/buff only when you are close with your team members. It’s an issue since you have to pack with them for be effective. They should change this for PvE I think and increase the effective radius.
Grind always been there during launch. It’s really absurd to complain about grind in a mmo anyway.
No grind/farm it’s as if you “play” a game already cleared, where you get the best items at the beginning.
What is the point to play a game where you don’t have to do any effort to get them? Tell me one great rpg game where you can have the best stuff without effort.
Any advice on how to get the Amalgamated Gemstones other than just outright purchasing stuff off of the trading post? Someone mentioned crafting orbs; any good farming advice on the items required for said crafting?
Thanks!
salvage glob of ectoplasms, low tier crystals, jewelry 350, jumping puzzle, hot map nodes, t6 nodes…
Please stop with these topics now. There are like 20 threads like this and the answer is : no, this is fine and the price is exactly like the old legendary, and this since months, the price is stabilized and will not go up, at least not before the next legendaries.
That will not give you T5 dust. The price has not stabilized “since months” last month it is was 100-150g cheaper.
for T5 dust, fractals (from encryption boxes) and the new shatterer gives a ton of them.
Wrong, the 250 amalgamated gemstone was at 750 golds when I’ve made my legendary, and around 600-ish with mystic toilet (craft method).
