Guild Wars 2

but the guardian sword skills dont have a bubble:S i gess you mean the shield skill shield of absorption or the utilety skill shield of the avenger.

but on the other hand i think its a good ide tho there should be some sort of deniel to it to so that if i dont want people to know how iam(name of toon) or dont want to talk to them it should not be possible for them to do so that way

Gumby.1708:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Yeah, you would just use a radio.
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Say, there are spies in Eve online too, but there are also methods to deal with them.

You kinda dont understand this is a GAME and not REAL LIFE. You can controll it and make it fair and fun for everyone.

And i dont care if you can deal with spies in Eve online. You don’t have any options to deal with them in Guild Wars 2. Grouping reveals the EXACT position whereas with voip they can only pass on APPROXIMATE positions.

its very easy to no accept a invite from another server and if you dont accept then he cant see anything tho if they are on your server and relaying info on then its something else and that dont change anything with the partying systems capabiltys to inv players from enemy servers

IVIUIEI.9631:

App is easier…….

that is a mather of opinion tho

Zacchary.6183:

No. Stop asking for something that isn’t going to happen.

unless you can prove that there is no mount and never will come a mount ingame then your statment is wrong and given we have mounts like rieding brooms your statment is wrong,
i would like to see a cosmetic mount of some kind like a horse or other stuff like that tho should only be cosmetic.

any city wall can fall given the right amount of time and size of the enemy army but then there is also the fact that the army needs to be huge and takeing on 3 charr capitals, a human capital at the same time would be no small task. Then comes the fact that they need to take down the sylvary witch we dont know if there is more then 1 tree to make them and take the norns out, where holdbreak is nothing but 1 persons lodge and they are a groupe of hunter so unless they turn the shiver peaks inside they cant take out the norn.

and charr is a race of war mongols and would never leave something like a asura gate unprotected and most likely have a few failsafes that would all aktivate the instance they asura army goes trough or they attack the first guard.

humans most likely have a huge amount of fail safes to even tho they are more trusting but remember there old enemy is the charr and still if they are allys now i will bet my hat on that they dont fully trust each other so humans will use there fail safes to even if they where ment to the charr;)

Moran Fox.5940:

“Story dungeons will award 50 silver for completion, and explorable dungeons will award between 1 and 3 gold depending on length and difficulty. "

More gold in the economy will increase prices while more materials will take it down. The system will be balanced? I roughly can say that T6 prices will remain the same.

Its just an idea, hope i can help.

how is that more gold as its only the first time you do the path it does that and not each time you do the path that day;)

you are still saying that we are on pair with the dragons, tho we are nothing compared to them, for all we know they could be recruting us out of passion and to protcet us from ourself there are alot of possiblety.
Is a groupe of wolfs on pair with any human? no they are not but hell they can kill off a human if they want to makeing your statment off us killing a elder dragon on pair with them invalide for given reasons.

and we have never communicated with any elder dragon but with there champions, and we dont even know if said champion, is a extinktion of the dragons body and there for cant go agienst its will or not.

you are despretly trying to set us on pair with the dragons and we are not even comparable, for all we know we are the evil once and they are the good once trying to save the planet.(look at the events done by charr, human and asura amoung other things)

there is just one thing your forgetting to take into account atleast if we go to wvw or spvp. Thats the fact the condition trapper does a lot less damage, given the fact that conditions stay on the target less, curing with aktive skills and/or automated skills that cleans each 10 sec, so much of the condition damage is lost but the direct damage is not lost there.
So it will kill the conditions alot compared to pure damage then

Viking Jorun.5413:

I hate when people think it’s “without limits”. There’s a 12-second cap on your invisibility. In order to perma stealth you have to give up 2 trait lines and 3 utility slots. You’re useless as a perma stealth thief, contrary to what most people believe. You waste your entire initiative bar in attempts to use a leap finisher though your smoke field. If you have issues killing perma-stealth thieves, you’re just a bad player. I’m sorry, but there is no excuse.

the problem is not perma stealth but the burst they gain when exiting stealth and there infinet ways to gain stealth agien after 3 secs as a thief that sacrifacies hes stealth right have all ways to win a combat and almost none to die in a combat. with the fact that thiefs has a good amount of stunebreakers and stealth clears there conditions, i would say that they need to have a longer time where they cant enter stealth and then they get reveald each time they exit stealth.

Esplen.3940:

Distinction in Applied Jumping.

is that not the super box titel?

Jscull.2514:

Say what you want about “Zergs owning due to retaliation” guess what??? My group is smart enough not to continue attacking when that is up…. We’d smoke 30- 40 mans with 5 if we didn’t have Aoe cap. We already wipe 20.. And there are other 5 mans that do the same. The Aoe cap helps zergers stay alive to people like us…. That’s THE fact.

you think?
you wont attack when they have retaliation gess what if the aoe cap where removed they would have perma retaliation with perma 25 stacks of might and able to buff it up each time your groupe could remove it.

the nightmare court is from all we know not a dragon corruption

the searing, the enslavement of skrit for the porpes of making test on them, ascelonions destroyktion whant me to name more ndicating they are evil?

magical abilities can also be the power to manipulet or channel the flow of magic trough you to make it do your bidding but if there is nothing to channel that ability is worth nothing;)

can you say with out a doubt in your mind that we are not corrupting the world and the dragons are removeing that corruption?
just because the waters we see have always been clean, does not make it how the world should be if its uncorrupt, from some influence. We could be nothing more then life that toke root in that corruption, and evolved to what we have today, but the elder dragons know how the world really should be, given there age, and are uncorrupting it as they move about.

if we have to present that the elder dragons are not evil and you dont have to present anything stating that the other races are good how does that work?
we are good because we kill the elder dragons that are evil. Right now we are debating if the elder dragons are evil or not, so you have to present evidens backing your beliefs that our races are good, without useing the elder dragons as refence as its them thats in question if they truely are evil.

and yes we know that Sylvari can not be corrupted by the elder dragons as we have been told that by the gms somewhere(cant find it now and i give up as the search function is as broken as it is)

totaly agree the search funtion is completly useless as it is right now

Requiem.8769:

We do rule the world. The bookahs just haven’t realized it yet.

the order of whispers just makes the asura think they rule the world when the order is really rulling it from the shadows;)

the asura dont rule the world and all should know it as there is only one ruler of the world and that is the leader of the order of whispers as they have a people in the right places to make them take the “right” decision(gessing with the expetion of sylvary given they basicly is a monochy/dictatorship/empire(and what the other one person in control systems are called) with the pale tree in control)

i never said that they where after it but i said that magic can be taken away from people as the elder races put there magic in there and first got it back when the human gods gave it to them, meaning that magic must be a resource your able to contain in some way.

given that the elder races gave up magic when they sealed it in the bloodstone it is a resource that can be taken away and have been done before agienst the dragons

Esplen.3940:

Korsbaek.9803:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Korsbaek.9803:

i would argue take 20% maybe more off the damage in stealth
make the reveald last 6 or 9 seconeds( when reveald where 4 sec people complained that the rotation where wrong and 3 fit very well but if 3 fits then 6 fits to just takes dubble the amount of time to get acces to stealth agien)
buff there damage outside stealth with 10-15%(with a nerf to heartseeker tho but not damage wise)

reworke the smoke + leap combo to grant blind when hitting a target instead of stealth

Are you a game balance coordinator? I don’t think you should be throwing random numbers out there if you aren’t.

im not a balance coordinator for anet that is true but that still does not take away my right to have and air my own oppinion in any way and if i think that would help balance the thief more then i have my right to state that, just as you have the right to say im wrong and dont have the right to say i should not say anything;)

You don’t have the right to say he doesn’t have the right to say that you should not say anything.

Also, your “balancing” effort hurt to read.

If 4 secs is too long because it screws up a combo, why would you make it 6 seconds? Additionally, taking 20%+ damage off of a profession specific damage bonus is ridiculous. Sure, Stealth isn’t just for thieves, but they are the only profession to get stealth attacks (attacks specifically gained during stealth). It basically makes Backstab worse than Heartseeker, thus rendering D/P (and a lot of other backstab/stealth builds) worthless.

4 seconed where bad because it felt wrong and you had to cnd in the midle of a combo, witch you did not have to with 3 secs, but if you dont have to cut of a combo in 3, how can you then at 6? you just need to do that combo 2 times now;)
the damage might be to much true, tho i still think that they need a nerf to the damage in bs mainly tho in stealth as a whole.

i normally dont find many problems with thiefs when they are alone other then they are anoing as hell, tho i still fell that they sacrifice way to little to gain that high damage they have given how strong stealth is and its from that point of view i want them nerfed a little.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Korsbaek.9803:

i would argue take 20% maybe more off the damage in stealth
make the reveald last 6 or 9 seconeds( when reveald where 4 sec people complained that the rotation where wrong and 3 fit very well but if 3 fits then 6 fits to just takes dubble the amount of time to get acces to stealth agien)
buff there damage outside stealth with 10-15%(with a nerf to heartseeker tho but not damage wise)

reworke the smoke + leap combo to grant blind when hitting a target instead of stealth

Are you a game balance coordinator? I don’t think you should be throwing random numbers out there if you aren’t.

im not a balance coordinator for anet that is true but that still does not take away my right to have and air my own oppinion in any way and if i think that would help balance the thief more then i have my right to state that, just as you have the right to say im wrong and dont have the right to say i should not say anything;)

how will you cap retaliation as my retaliation only ticks 1 time but thats the same with all the other 79 players so if you can find a cap that dont stop all 80 players from trikering when they take damage im up for it

given that we know that magic can be removed and then given agien it cant be a talent in any way.
The talent can tho be to use the magic thats there and get it to do your bidding.

and for refrences to that magic can be removed look at the bloodstones and the fact that abaddon gave magic back to the races.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bloodstone
and
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Magic

aoe cap is to balance some classes with others and to remove the insta dead when aoeing a zerg.

the major boon that make it so an aoe cap is a must is retaliation given that 1 person with retaliation gives around 250-300 damage(or more), then 5 people gives 5 times that much(each damage tick), thats 1250-1500 damage each damage tick, but now we say 50 people has it then its 12500-15000 damage each tick, now 80 people has it that gives you 20000-24000 damage each tick, and then we begin to stack might to what happens now?
oh the damage you get increases
With the fact that 1-2 hammer guardians can keep the retaliation up forever alone on all 80 people as there shouts has no aoe cap. It will then make a meta where a zerg can run around insta kill anyone hitting them with 2 people just useing light feilds and blast finishers and a few other people stacking might all the time they never need to attack anyone as anyone touches them they die.

and thats why there is a aoe limit

i would argue take 20% maybe more off the damage in stealth
make the reveald last 6 or 9 seconeds( when reveald where 4 sec people complained that the rotation where wrong and 3 fit very well but if 3 fits then 6 fits to just takes dubble the amount of time to get acces to stealth agien)
buff there damage outside stealth with 10-15%(with a nerf to heartseeker tho but not damage wise)

reworke the smoke + leap combo to grant blind when hitting a target instead of stealth

and make stealth grant reveald each time you exit it(also if its because time is up tho then a half reveald time could be ok)

they have a chance but its very low just like mining bags can contain the destroy counterpart(depending on tier bag)

Fungalfoot.7213:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Profit does not come at the expense of anyone else, unless it is taken by force. By the way, it may be unfun for you, but don’t place your subjective interpretations of that word above everyone else’s.

I am not objecting your right to flip. What I am objecting is the fact that flipping is the only way to get ahead currently. It generates way too much gold compared to other activities and it needs to be addressed.

flipping dont generat any gold at all it takes gold from the system given you only get profit if a player buys the item and then to buy the item that player needs to have gold and that comes from somewhere its generated out of nothing(events, mobs or something else)
farming on the other hand generats money out of nothing.

how high can the currency stack im thinking tokens as 250(a normal stack now) would still make a problem with space tho not so fast or are they stacking to 999 or more?

i think that hes trying to point out that compared to the elder dragons we are not sentinel beings in any way. makeing it the same as clearing out forrest and its animals to get more space to live on or reclaim what has been taken from you by nature;)

if a god would kill all lesser beings and he dont see that as a evil act then its not evil in any way(given that the race that god comes from dont see it as evil)

if a new race sprung op on earth and we see that race as evil should we not kill it?
destroying all life would be very bad for us but for the elder dragons i would not know that would depend on where magic come from. but i would agree that protimus is evil into we know where magic is comming from and what hes motivation is for doing it.

a elder dragon killing a groupe of humans living toghter is not objectiv evil, it is on the other hand evil in our yes, as we are doing the exat same thing to gain land or reclaim land from nature.

and to your last post we communicat with alot of animals and promise them something they desire to gain there obidince whats diffrent for the dragons doing the same.
is a dog, cow or any other animal we promise food, shelter and safety not corrupeted by our promise and dont we understand there wishes and diseris well enough to corrupt them enough(we might not be very good at it anymore, tho but the first animals we used where wild animals, now they have growen into a breed of slaves to us makeing knowlege about them unesseary as they only know how to follow us to survive)

im basecly just saying that from there point of view we can be nothing more then invaders, invading there land makeing us evil.
You are setting them as evil by setting us as good from our view point and making our view point the objetive truth for the whole system thats the planet we are on, and thats something you cant do. For all we know we could be the evil onces doing harm to the planet we are on and the dragons thats doing good from the planets view point, that would make the evil onces and the dragons doing good as you clearly stats that killing evil creaturs is a act of good.

why is stopping the elder dragons a good act?
because they are evil in our eyes, i will bet we are evil in there makeing it a full circle with evil killing evil when looking at it from both perspectives

and because the sons kill all female norns that gets corrupted or turned has nothing to do with jormag, i could begin worship someone and the gift he gives me is something i wont share with females and now all that join this worshipping has to kill all females that trys to join.
the person i worship has no power over me into the day i turn into a moveing iceblock but im still worshipping him before that.

stopping the elder dragons is not a act of good for us its the act of the lesser evils taken from your oppinion given that i can eighter act evil by killing them or i can die and as we dont want to die we kill the elder dragon, its nothing more then a war, its a war for them and a war for us nothing else, they kill because they are at war with the other races of tyria there is nothing that makes them evil by doing that, there can then come arguments for if the war is justified or not and if its a war we should fight but that does not change the fact that we are at war with them and they have been at war with the races of tyria a hell of alot longer then our races history, and from what we can gess from the fact that they rose last time they where awake they must have been here longer then the elder races to unless they made them or they are a natural force made by the world itself

if i remember correctly its soulbound on use

some of them seems ok but 2 and 8 should not be made.
2 because a commander troll will then lock off the keep for withdrawel under an attack or lock the keep when you want to build a upgrade
8 is just because its way to owerpowered.

1 would be something good to add,
3 im choice to stay neutral on as it might be good but might not be.
4 would make it alot easyer to get supply around if needed to
5 would be good to have to.
6 would hurt the zerg a great deal witch is good as it will force more strategie in tho might be to much with a limet of 1
7 might be good to have but cant see it do much diffrence other then it might make some people arrogant enough to ask people to leave the map to gain outmanned for that thing

any class can be played agressivly tho some classes need to offer alot of defense to do so given they must go to melee to fight(and yes thiefs has the best defense for doing that so they dont count as thats not offered away)

if you build your guardian for high damage you will have a hard time in some situations but it will also be very agreesive in the play style.
necros can also be very agreesive in there style tho in a diffrent way.

my surgestion is go try all classes into level 20 or so to see if the utiltys work for you(i know you dont get all but you get an ide of how they work)

we are systematic killing diffrent races of farm animals and by the defernation your giving we are makeing genocide on them no mather if you say we dont as you are systematic killing thos races makeing it genocide;)
it is true that viruses are not a race but the rest of them are no mather if you want it or not makeing our systematic killing of farm animals a genocidek from a racial perspectiv;)

i totaly know what it means and thats why i can call it neutral given that i see our race as nothing more then animals and thats all we are we are from the race of homos and the subspieces kitten sapiens, we are then killing in systematic order other diffrent races makeing it genocide.

name a act thats evil regardless of context.

if we cant claim that we are evil in the dragons eyes how can you claim that the dragons are evil when you clearly state that killing evil is not a evil act?

there i stand corrected but then the systematic killing of any animal will fall under the catagory you just gave and the killing of cattle is not evil but still genocide makeing genocide a neutral thing remember that.

and you can not say that context only mathers half the time it eighter mathers all the time or not at all

genocide means killing off something in a systematic order because of what it is

so systematic killing off smallpox because its smallpox is genocide;)

i would argue that raising and killing off anials is not genocide but slavery and forced reproduction with the purpes of murdering them.

and no race sees it self as evil but most likely sees the other side as evil and there for acts on that to defend itself from evil

if all moral percetions is not equal then whos right?

they are not assuming we will attack them they know given that the knowlege of anyone zhiatn corrups gives hes knowlege to zhiatan so he knows and the first chase cold have been a scout to see what it where that then attacked a mindless mionion risen for garthing food

that will make us the agressor and us the evil once plus you need to remember the last thing that happened before zhiatan whent to bed where he got hunted by the last races;)

mad all i have been trying to teach you is that all that mathers is the point of view nothing but you dont seem to understand that, as you or anyone for that mather has the right to say there point of view is true and only thers is true.

Brother Grimm.5176:

the number of levels you are looking to increase are going to require most (if not ALL) of the crafting skills for each character, so which ones are cheaper is not nearly as important as which ones are the most expensive (so you can avoid doing those).

A huge answer to your question lies in how much T1 – T6 crafting materials you have before starting. You will still need to buy lots of materials, but your current stockpiles are a “discount” in the expected costs for each. Also, if you have Laurels to spare, you can further offset the costs by getting crafting starter kits and / or crafting material bundles that are available.

Also, most crafting guides will provide you with a rough estimate of cost, but they could be off by good bit depending on how much material costs have changed since the guides were written (and that is usually quite a long time as most of the guides out there were done within a few weeks of original GW2 game release).

he needs 3 crafting proffesions thats it.

we are not there food supply but we are sitting on the biggest part of it and by killing us they gain acces to that.

the dragons dont kill for being wicked, vile or anything like that(atleast from what i see)they kill for eighter food or self defense, given that the self defense is used before we attack but knowing we will attack, its still a action taken from knowging we are going to attack them.

just because you douth there is any living creatures that will choose death over life does not mean there is none

first off look up the meaning of nefarious then continue with useing it this way;)
it means soemthing agienst divine laws, sins, crime, abominable(wich means ill omen),
the way you use it makes no sense

we will argue that life is bether then death any day but thats only based on our instinces if said instinces said something else then something else would be applyed.

do you really believe they have the option not to kill us to survive?
magic is mostly dominated by the major races of tyria then killing them to get control of your food supply is the logical choice of actions to take.

the meterfor is there for showing that nighter has the right to say that there truth is the abekitten truth nothing else.

all we have been trying to teach you mad queen is that not everything is the same way as you see it and your oppinion is not the true truth but its effected by you the same can be applyed to me to tho.

why does a supposebly deranges persons view point not mather can you prove hes world is true or your is?

ok first a given spiece makes a posion in the air that your race will die of now you have 4 ways to go eighter make genocide on said spices, let your own die, travel to a diffrent planet or they gets sent to a diffrent planet. and given we cant travel in space to a degree where sending a spiecs to a diffrent plantet there is 2 options left genocide of there spices or the extiongion of yours,

its murder for us but does the dragons see it as murder if not then they are not commint murder but just killing some cattle, you can only comiet murder on a race you see equal to your own.

ill say it one last time the elder dragons are evil from our point of view but from theres i can not say but they might not be evil in any way from that side and in the mather of fact we might be the evil once from there point of view.

your going from that animating the dead is evil to that the act in itself is not evil can you decide? and from what you say i understand that as long as there i no human remains in it then its not wrong but if there is then its wrong and evil, thats so wrong way of going trough it in my oppinion as eighter the act is evil or its not.
genocide is something done for veriose reasons(one can be survival of your own spieces where you have the choice of makeing genocide on that race or let your own race die)
murder is per defianition wrong yes but killing a person is not but thats given the meaning of murder, as its killing someone within a sociaty that marks them a equals and living under the same set of rules but killing someone can have verisos othere things invalved one can be surviavel and alot of other stuff but as said as long as you see its evil then its evil FOR YOU yes and i have agreed to that but then from another persepctiv where the action CAN and MIGHT be seen as something thats normal and not evil then from there persepctiv the action is NOT EVIL and that is what i have been trying to reason with you.

unforntly i give up trying to use reason to mad queen as she/he cant see anything other then whats right and wrong from hes/her persepctiv anything else is unimportent and if it brings harm to her/him then it must be evil there is no othere explanation to it.

sorry but i cant agree with him/her in any way at all as he/she as set to mind thakittens wrong and its wrong because its wrong wich is not a way to argue at all, i have used reasoning to deduct that it might not be evil at all atleast from there perspectiv witch dont make them evil.

genocide of a spices is not wrong if there is a reason for it genoside for the sace of genoside is wrong tho.
dropping a nuke is not wrong but its not evil but its defendly not good eighter.
there is the chase that both the asura and the human both share the point of view that killing is wrong but who says that the dragon shares that moral with us?
a elder dragon has a set of moral if its a intelligent being tho we can then take it to debat if we agree on the set of moral from our stand point but thats a totaly diffrent chase.
the interaction between human and asura gives the human the abilty to judge the asura and the other way around but we have no understanding of the elder dragons and without it we have no means to judge it as we cant say it does something evil seen from its race way of life or not, all we can say is that from our point of view they are evil but that does not make them evil at all, its just our look at them that see them as evil.
an easy example, 2 contrues in war sees itself as good and the other evil or as a lesser race without the rights they apply to themself

then ill make it clear with a row of questions.
why is it wrong to comit a murder?
if you base it on commen sense then where does that commen sense come from?
if you say its a act of evil then what makes it evil?
then you will proberly say that because someone is dead by it then why is it wrong to put someone to death as death is a part of life you can not get around so why is it evil to “help” someone get there faster?
if you then say its because someone is lossing a famelie member/fiend or what not then why is it bad when death is part of life?
all it boils down to in the end is survival of the spieces and thats where our commen sense and moral comes from, then if the elder draong spices need to comit genorcide on the other races to survive its commen sense for them to do so and morally correct.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Korsbaek.9803:

seeing the dragons trough human eyes will make them diffrent yes that it will tho seen trough there own eyes or the eyes of there race is a totally diffrent mather and the only one able to judge them evil is there own race and thats what im basing the fact that they are not evil on.

If we look through the eyes of a deranged serial killer, then by his morals he’s not doing anything wrong at all. See how that works?
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that serial killer is still a race if its a human then a human moral codes is to some degree ok to put on him but is he of a diffrent race then you cant put the human moral code on him thats all

as something is wrong for a race perspectiv but that might not be true for the next race and there is a big diffrence there as your forceing your human moral down on a dragon that with a high chance live by a diffrent set of moral

Thalador.4218:

@Korsbaek: Your moral compass is utterly haywire if you think things like that. You’re starting to sound like you actually killed an innocent human being, and now you’re trying to stifle your raging conscience by validating evil and speaking of evil as if it was the most natural thing in the world. Whereas it is not.

first i have not killed anyone and my moral compase is not haywire in any way all there is to it is i dont force my moral codes anywhere it dont belong it fits any human yes but any othere race it wont fit completly as they might have othere basic things thats diffrent then ours makeing there codes a diffrent way and there sense diffrent.
tho my view of life is diffrent then most people and the same with my view on death.

seeing the dragons trough human eyes will make them diffrent yes that it will tho seen trough there own eyes or the eyes of there race is a totally diffrent mather and the only one able to judge them evil is there own race and thats what im basing the fact that they are not evil on. lets say we had a intelligent being other then humans on earth would it be evil to make genocide on them? would it still be evil to make genocide on them if your race needs to do it for there survival?

your commen sense is that of a western human being nothing else, now apply a western human beings commen sense to a living intelligent creatur that sees eating anything in the form as we do as evil, then apply there commen sense to us will bring us to evil nothing else.(basicly what im trying to say is that your useing commen sense and moral of on living being and forceing it onto anothere and that is not fair)
and your saying that elder dragons dont have moral, just because there moral is diffrent then ours makes them amoral?

animating the dead or getting a corpse to move agien is not evil and how is it diffrent then makeing a robot? im not bring the person you know back in any way im useing hes flesh nothing else. that is completly the same as useing any othere beings flesh for something.

lets see human citys are each a corruption of the land that used to be, most of my contrues farm land is only possible to be used because of the destroyction/corruption of the land that where there before as almost all our crops could not grow there,
then comes the fact that each build we place is a corruption of the land and destroyction of the land that where there before, removel of forrest is in a huge degre is teraforming the area to a degree makeing a forrest into farmland for cropes but your still corrupting it from its original state witch is the forrest.

if we take it as the elder dragon is makeing genocide on our races then lets look at the genocides of the human races and use the fact that slaying evil is not evil in any way.

we dont even know if the only reason the elder dragons are killing us is because they have to defend themself from us meaning that makeing a army in self defense is totaly valid.

the first thing you need to do is change your look on it and see that your commen sense only applys to your race, as commen sense is made for the convines of the spices makeing the commen sense and the technology they have nothing else so dont try force your commen sense onto a diffrent race where its not valid witch is what your doing. i have not called the elder dragons evil but i have nighter called them good for all i know they can be good but hell they can also be evil i dont know as i dont understand the sense of the elder dragons and what commen sense and moral codes they use as they have one that you can be sure off.

from our point of view it is morally wrong to use a corpse in that way yes but thats only from our point of view.

your drawing your conclusion based on human stand point and that is something cant be applyed here, drinking lava is bad from a human stand point, now a creatour useing lava as fluide would need to drink it to survive but they are doing a bad thing for surviving then as drinking lava is bad
im trying to show you that your useing a one pointed view nothing else and your point is western human based nothing else.

animating the dead to use there corpse is the same as makeing a robot and useing that nothing else, the only diffrence here is that the corpse have/had people that your sowing disrespect from our way of looking at the world be desturbing the corpse eternal rest but thats from our belives and view of the world that dont make it evil.
and yes a corpse is nothing but a husk of meat your moveing around, where a robot is something you are moveing about tho it can be metal or it can be meat.

so a elder dragon is not evil as they see us as cattle nothing else meaning that killing us will be the same as us killing cattle, and as you said that killing cattle is not a act of evil then a elder dragons act of killing its cattle is not evil eighter.

objective moralty can only be applyed into the spieces its used on as there is some spices that will call that action you need for survival evil and the othere way around.

The Elder Dragons are committing several atrocities at once. I’m surprised that anyone would call into question if they are evil or not. Would any of these deeds be considered good acts, if a human was doing them? Hell no!

And can anyone name any good act that the Elder Dragons have done? Just name one.

name one evil act that the elder dragons do that humans dont do thats evil.
killing humans, to the elder dragons we are a short lived race that is used as cattle for them so for them its killing cattle, when we kill cattle we are not evil then there act of killing there cattle is not evil.
corrupting there areas, the first thing humans do when comming to a new area is corrupting it to make it convinent for them to stay there as much as possible, that exactly what the elder dragons do so that cant be considered evil unless you call all the races evil but then killing off the evil races cant be a ct of evil eighter per your books defirntion.

a good act they do i cant but as we dont know why they are there and all we cant say they dont have a purpes at all, for all we know they can be the only reason we can sustain our lives on tyria because they take some of the magic into there own bodys so that there wont get so much magic floating freely that it will destroy teria, or some othere reason they are there that makes them a force of nature and derfor they are not evil in any way.

all i see your doing is setting a one sided set of morals that says what we do is good and what the elder dragons do is bad as we have intelligence or atleast we think we do, the gap between the intelligences can be the same gap between humans and cattle for all we know as it is human elder dragons.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

It is a generally accepted truth that creating zombies is bad, hmmkay? Of course it is not possible in real life, but if it were, animating corpses would definitely be a wrong act.

and here your saying what i have been saying all along evil is nothing else then what the general groupe(in this chase most people) as demad evil, had the groupe demad it a act of good then animating a corpse is not evil but good(i know it must be hard to look at it without being tained with your own moral codes but try)

i have my own values that makes something good or evil and normaly they follow that of sociaty tho i can also look at things without that view as soon as i move to teory and thats all we are working in here, so i have placed a set of values for this conversation and made a moral codes i follow for this thats very diffrent then what my real life moral codes for nothing else then show that evil is nothing else then the eyes that view it