Guild Wars 2

It is my opinion that dagger pistol trickery has a tactical advantage over sword pistol trickery so the first question would be: is it true ?

Now if d/p really has that advantage against s/p how exactly does it work ?
I mean, what are the “plays” that give you an advantage ? Like using steal to land a backstab or stuff like that, i know some tricks for sword pistol but i am totally new to dagger pistol and i’d like to get some insight on the more advanced tactics.

If i craft an ascended weapon with my weaponsmith character can i use it on my second character or is it soulbound on acquire ?

when i team queue i play guardian but when i hotjoin i play thief, i am so used to say “azfghuck call target on the necro !1!!!” that i automatically glue myself to every enemy necro i see around :P

lol do you really think that shouts are better than meditations when it comes to duels ?
shows how much you know of dueling specs

@silvermember

diamond skin ofc

Granades are strong, that’s true, but they leave enough room for counterplay.
They are very weak to retailation and unlike wells they don’t get past the shield of absorption that guardians rise when ressing (once every 60s).
They are also difficult to make use of in 1v1 situations.

I would only change the burning on crit trait to make confusion apply burning, imo this would make it more counterable and less rng based.

10/10 !
your sylvari looks exactly like i wanted mine to look but i’m too cheap to afford that armor ç_ç

this is my necromancer, i love how the ascalonian pants look like leggins if i turn down the quality and change the color XD

haha i actually remember when staff eles were used in place of guardians as mid bunkers, good old times :P

Yes i also think that necromancers should be able to turn dead players into minion so that they can turn your dead team mates against you.
Also 60s cd on signet of spite is clearly too much, it should be an unblockable ground target aoe with 10s cd.

And since warriors are master of all weapons they should be able to quadra wield greatswords so they can hundred blades while they sword rush, while they whirling attack while they bladetrail and their defiant stance should last at least 10 seconds to make up for the fact that it isn’t an istant cast.

And backstab is not good because you have to use it from stealth, i say we replace thieves autoattack chain with backstabs and the base damage of backstab should be raised to 5k because if you get a dagger to the spine you are supposed to die.

Next are rangers, their spirits are nice and dandy but they just don’t cut it, i say we replace each of them with a champion oak heart.
And the autoattack of shortbow is too slow, i say we replace ranger shortbows with mp5 sub-machine guns so they can keep up a more acceptable fire rate.

Engineers, their turrets should be made of a sentient densomorphic alien alloy able to self-repair and self-replicate, they should also fire armor-ignoring, undodgeable, high velocity rounds. Granades are also lacklaster, engineers should be equipped with a state of the art granade launcher able to shot out 10 granades per second.

Mesmers need some work, clones should be exact copies of the actual player, with the same stat and everything, and they should replicate everything you do. If you cast a clone and you have a clone, your clone should also cast a clone, and you should be able to keep doing this indefinitely without the silly 3 clones cap. Exponential clone generation is the way to go.

I think guardians are not tanky enough, they should be able to completely refill their health bar each time they roll and their autoattack chain should be replaced with banish because otherwise it is too hard to knock someone out of the capture point.

Eles should get a new downed mode skill called “even the field” that turns them into a legendary risen priest of balthazar. They stay in balthazar mode until they die and then they turn back to elementalist and can respawn normally (if you die in balthazar mode you go straight to the waypoint, no extra downed mode)

I played only during wotlk, people still had HP in the 20k range, i guess a lot has changed since then

wut ? it’s been a while since the last time i played wow but i recall no 1hko macro for warriors.

I was speaking only for ACTUAL CHEATING OR EXPLOITING

I think we have come to an agreement.
If what you do can get you banned, you went too far.

Where i said that its wrong to play for the win?

I was under the impression that you considered cheating the examples i talked about, since that stuff doesn’t get you punished by anet i consider it playing to win, not cheating.
You said “a wrong think is WRONG even if the whole world keeps doing it”, was this specifically about cheating ? Was this about people who use cheap tricks to win ?
Or maybe it was just a broad example and i misunderstood your reply lol.

i do not prefer a win that i do not deserve at all

Then you have my respect, you are one of the few coherent honorable players.

And i will tell you something to think about. Why do you created this post?

I was listening to this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E and i felt inspired. Looking back I guess Jax was right, I came here to point out the contradictions of the “honor system” without noticing that I was making the same mistakes.

Xaos.3257:

part of my response didn’t say that people don’t do this, but that people that do this are sad FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. Because a win in a game via cheating will give you
nothing, except empty satisfaction aka…. SAD !
I hope its clear now :P

Cheating ? what we are talking about is completely within the user agreement of anet, you considering it cheating doesn’t make it cheating.

And in case that you are trying to say “Well a heckload of people play that way and i’m
proud to join them” then i’m commenting you for your honesty, but don’t try to make excuses for your self or to justify it because a wrong think is WRONG even if the whole
world keeps doing it.

1. Why exactly would playing to win be a wrong thing ?
2. When i say that the majority of people play to win, i don’t intend to use that as an excuse, I am pointing my finger at those people who behave in a hypocritical way. I am pretty sure you yourself would prefeire winning as a warrior rather then loosing as a mesmer, yet you are here ready to judge others who do the same.

@Merlin Dyfed Avalon that would be against the user agreement, the only one line that everyone agrees must not be crossed.

@OverlordOutpost How can you draw such a dinstinct line when even anet stance is so unclear on the matter ? Just look at the perfect snowflake banwave and the recent one regarding line farming, those things where working as intended from the point of view of the players but they weren’t from anet point of view. As long as anet doesn’t clearly label something to be against the rules it stays in a moral grey zone, if you don’t want to use it fine, that’s your buisness, but using it falls within the definition of “clever use of ingame mechanics” because it could as well be intended for that thing to work in that way.

@Xaos who are you kidding ? if people really wanted to show how skilled they are you wouldn’t see lame builds all over the place, people want to win for the sake of winning.

@Jax that’s inspiring, i find the fact that you are probably right slightly disturbing, i don’t know how to reply just yet but i’ll look into that.

@Phantom Master i am sure your gameplay is perfectly moral right ? You see, I don’ t complain when i get some kitten , i complain when i get it from other offenders.
That’ s why i decided to be vocal about it on the forumz.

@gesho blackpowder, heartseeker into shadowstep into steal into backstab.

Liewec.2896:

still wondering why you’re posting this, it’s like you’re declaring that you’re a proud kitten or something? XD
i just had this song playing in my head while i read it all lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

i felt the urge to tell the world that playing dishonorably is playing to win and that you shouldn’t feel entitled to look down on ceap tricks users because you would do the same if you were honest with yourself (unlesse you were one of the abovementioned legit honorable players)

from my experience it is based on consecutive victories.
3 defeats in a row followed by 3 victories in a row will rank you higher than alternating defeat victory defeat victory defeat vicctory.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

win is a win no matter how you achieve it. but im a player who doesnt care bout my rank or leaderboard heck i dont even know my standings nor will i care to know. but those who take advantage of flaws in the game like skyhammer pulls and push. door or treb kills before start of the game etc. know that the next time we meet ingame and we on the same team i will afk the whole match

you are on of them ! you blame me for being dishonorable but you have no problems leaving your team to fight 4v5 !

Ok i am lachanche and i play dirty, dishonorably if you pass me the term.
I am of the opinion that a dishonorable victory is better than an honorable defeat.
Meet me in king of the hill, i will ask r? and backstab you from 3k range while you type.
Meet me in skyhammer and all the stability of the world won’t save you.
Meet me in 2v2 i will hug that pillar so tight that it will blush.
Meet me in legacy i will murder your lord before you even notice the door is down (or is not).

One may wonder what the point of this post is so let me further articulate the title: everyone wants to win, people would resort to any tool at their disposal in order to achieve victory, yet the majority of them will refuse to admit it.
Those who resort to cheap tricks when nobody sees them are the first to judge the ones who do it openly.
You call me dishonorable and stalk me with whisps full of hate yet you switch class in the middle of the match when my longbow hardcounters your spirits.
Those who cast their gaze upon others and feel righteous enough to label them as dishonorable, i guess you are as candid as a rank 1 fractal runner.

There are a few truely honorable players, players who abide by their words, players worthy of admiration because their resolve is so strong that playing at a disadvantage doesn’t bother them.

There are a few honest dishonorable players who speak loud and clear about the way they gain a dishonorable advantage and follow through with their deeds.

Then there are the dishonorable ones who smile at you under the sun and backstab you in the dark, guys that complain about cheap class mechanics and use cheap class mechanics themselves, guys that complain about pillar hugging and run prismatic understanding, those guys.

I say we lift the veil of hypocrisy at once, playing dishonorably is not bad behaviour, it is striving as hard as you can to achieve your goal (victory).

Dishonorable ? Please, might as well call it coherent.

i 100% agree with proven, mOAr maps like skyhammer would strongly improve the gameplay

Sublimatio.6981:

skyz.7321:

Darko.5873:

• Ring of Perception - 1200 gems – Wearer of this ring perceives all opponents as humans. Usable only in PvP. Account bound.
  (other editions could be possible: Norn – for people that want to fight norns. Asura – for people that want to fight disgusting mutated drowned rats. Etc.)

As funny as the post was, ^this^ needs to be implemented in some way.

Asura make the game ugly to watch and and ugly to play. And are a disgusting abuse of a racial bonus, and we all know racial bonuses are not meant to be in spvp.

Give players the option to see everyone as a human/sylvari. Not norn/charr because that would be the direct opposite of the asura cheat.

If you don’t want to suffer from being-asura racial bonus, click your player detail limit to lowest and everybody will be the same

yeah good try but that only works in pve and wvwvw, we spvp guys are special.

I would buy all of these 3 items.
And i am serious on this one, i have yet to spend a single $ in the gemstore but for these items i would pay without thinking twice about it.

In my opinion dire gear would greatly benefit the spvp scene and I am also going to explain why.

1) build diversity: elementalists, guardians and thieves do not posses the ability to spec into conditions (well thieves do but they struggle compared to other builds), dire gear would allow them to cover this role.

2) counterplay: most of the builds you see around are based on the archetype of the bruiser: high defense, ok damage. minionmasters, soldier warriors, spirit rangers, some engineers… to counter such builds players resort to extremely glassy builds that fill the secondary role of keeping bruisers in check. thieves, eles, hgh, terrormancers…
But a rock paper scissor game is not such without scissors, which would be dire amulet users.

3) Accessibility. Now i know a lot of you guys are elitist jerks (no offense meant) but accessibility is actually a really important thing to keep into account. The popularity of a game mode is also determined by how easy it is to access, dire gear would allow more neophytes to find their place in spvp.

4) spvp/WvW parallelism. If I am not mistaken, it is a common opinion amongst players that spvp and wvwvw should move in the same direction. Everyone likes getting gold rewards from spvp as they do from wvwvw right ? In the same fashion it is highly likely that everyone will enjoy being able to use the same gear combination in both spvp and wvww. Dire accomplishes this task perfectly.

5) team variations: every team runs at least 1 guardian to park on mid. why not parking a necromancer on mid ? why not an engineer ? I think it would be for the better to allow teams to employ different mid holders instead of guardians over and over. Dire amulets will finally oust guardians from their throne of mid bunkers and make it possible to see a lot of new team compositions.

Precision + healing power would be a pretty neat combination, different from anything we already have in spvp.

In pve there is the magi set which gives healing power, precision and vitality, i think that would be a cool addition to spvp.

Marcos.3690:

if they continue with this philosophy they will stability stomp this game.

People were asking for progression in pvp, now they are turning back on their tracks, well then which is it !? Also i quoted your reply because it’s never too late to corrupt boon the guardian.

mini.6018:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

DPS-Guard is one of the only speccs that is well telegraphed. Should stay like that.

Uhm !Teleports and instant casts(meditations) is not exactly the definition of telegraphed imo.

Ok so what’s istant ?
- 16s cd, aoe dmg, condi removal, extra dmg if a condi was removed.
- 36s cd, 1200r teleport to target, burning if it connects, moderate dmg.
- 48s cd, the best cleanse of the game.

What’s NOT istant ?
- Everything else.

I say try again because you missed by a kitten lot.

the sober ninja.6539:

Doesn’t allow for much counter play when you have no time.

You know what else doesn’t leave much time fo counter play ? When an elementalists waits for you behind a corner and than unloads his burst on you.
For this same reason I demand that elementalists are further nerfed.

you can use two sigil of energy to spam dodge according to the spam of attacks.
i do it all the time on my shatter mesmer, it also helps with clone generation

scepter also helps.
in facts, i believe scepter is much better than sword coupled with gs.
Experienced players will dodge your zealot wrath unless you immobilize them with scepter.

sorrow.2364:

just to get wiped right after from Death Nova on that loads of minion dying

hint: don’t stand on the point next to the aoe you just casted (or endurepain if you have it slotted)

permapoison

when you have 15 minions nova blasting the kitten out of you poison is the last of your problems lol

If I used Elementalist instead of Warrior, I’m sure the situation would have been much worse.

au contraire, go full aoe kamikaze and you will destroy all those minions in less than 8 seconds. (the total cast time of frost bow #4 + staff fire #5 + the signet whose name i don’t remember which triggers a storm).

a normal team would destroy you as soon as you get spotted, sure, but a team made of below average players playing classes with poor mobility won’t be able to get you before you unleash hell on the point.

@Cynz what build are you running ? i am under the impression that you could improve your 1v1 experience by tweaking your setup a bit.

btw Class: condi necro.

1. s/p thieves
2. zerker warriors
3. s/d eles

Oddly enough s/d thieves aren’t as problematic as they used to be now that infiltrator strike is not a free out of the jail card anymore, s/p thieves on the other hand can easily wear you down before you start having your impact on the teamfight.

Zerker warriors can be quite troublesome during teamfights with many particle effects going on because if you don’t notice their earthshaker you often have an hard time recovering from it, second place because a good guardian in your team can help mitigate this. Also, berserker stance.

Eles are ranked third because their burst can get a necro off guard and with scepter (obsidian flesh) if you get downed you will also get stomped.

TChalla.7146:

I think eles should start each match dead. The rest of the team has to rez the ele and try to keep him/her alive for more than 30 seconds. If they can successfully do it, they automatically win the match.

new game mode discovered lol

This thread is six months old: fear me has already been changed to be on a 60 seconds cooldown, this thread was reanimated because someone complained about fear me being blocked by blindness.

If you are going to complain about something you never tried at least look it up on google or you ll make yourself look like a fool.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

necromancer power ( he kills you asoon as he pops hes elite )

imo plague is still more useful: you can’t break out of stun, res or stomp in lich form, the only thing you get is an insanely powerful autoattack.

I got bursted by an ele once and it took away like half of my life forcebar , i mean, are we crazy ? I say we replace arcane utilities with cooking skills, the burst has to be toned down and i am quite hungry at the moment so there we go.

lol someone might find this thread’s title ambiguous.
I like your build though, it is always nice to see someone try out new combinations and have them work

Yeah the scene on skyhammer came out good but you should hire a stuntman, that map is hideous, i don’t think it is a a coincidence that teldo came back right when mighty meak decided to work on such an epic piece of cinematic entertainment… 2+2

big kitteny deal, lose ten in a row if you want to impress me

Romek.4201:

Morinmeth.9823:

Red Guard are back.
Teldo is back.

OH MAN. I’m even more hyped right now for the next updates!

who is red guard?

the black dudes of skyrim

Here, have a teldo ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcNCh5dYsGg

also at 1:10 → original all is vain of gw2

Errant Venture.9371:

Lachanche.6859:

Naetell.3815:

This reminds me of Nietzsche’s writings.

“Why should one live? All is vain!”
-Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra.

How the kitten do you pronounce Nietzsche

NEE-chuh

I’m not sure, that sounds way too chinese for a german dude

Naetell.3815:

This reminds me of Nietzsche’s writings.

“Why should one live? All is vain!”
-Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra.

How the kitten do you pronounce Nietzsche

S tier. In my opinion there are 2 classes that are simply necessary in a competitive team: thieves and guardians.
A good thief can completely lockdown high priority threats (condimancers, rangers, mesmers) and contest the far point with ease.
Guardians with supportive builds are what makes the difference between victory and defeat during team fights.
These two would be my S tier because i see them as necessary in every team.

In my opinion the most effective thief build for teamfights is sword pistol + trickery: infiltrator strike allows you to follow targets that are otherwise hard to focus such as mesmers and other thieves, the short cooldown on your f1 allows you to consistently remove stability and combined with infiltrator strikes allows you to easily reach far away targets.
Talking about guardians, pure of voice and virtues are two must in my opinion.
Games aren’t ruled by necromancers anymore, you can easily afford to play without altruistic healing if your team moves fast enough and the extra support makes the difference in teamfights.

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A tier. Classes that can hold a point but still do good damage. Basically a side point holder that will occasionally join or switch position with the guardian when needed.
These are in my A tier because they are useful but not mandatory: your team could play on the sides without a second holder, although with increased difficulty.

Honestly, depending on your team comp a lot of different builds can fit here: you could go hambow, minionmaster, automated response engi, spirit rangers, meditation guardian, tanky condimancer and the list goes on and on.

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B tier. In this tier I place all those builds that are good but don’t fill a specific role and can easily be replaced.

I place here every offensive build left out. This includes 30 20 0 0 20 conditionmancers, most mesmer builds and hgh engineers (and 30 10 0 20 10 engineers too unless your skills are teldo tier). Such builds are good, with the proper team setup they they might even be strategy defining builds, generally, though, if for whatever reason you have to replace one of them your team can still keep playing the way it did before.

Now i know that ranking these builds so low may seem odd but please keep in mind that tiers should not reflect the viability of a class/build but how necessary it is to the team, if for instance your team used to play guardian/thief/warrior/condimancer/hgh engineer switching to guardian/thief/warrior/mesmer/ranger wouldn’t make you change your strategy.

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C tier. Builds whose role is performed more effectively by other builds.

Prime example: elementalists, if played for area denial they are outperformed by warriors, if played for single target burst they are outperformed by thieves, if played for holding the side point they are outperformed by every single other side holder, if played for playing on the sides they are outperformed by engineers, if played for mid point holding they are outperformed by guardians.

Secondary example: electrostatic discharge engineers, they have very high single target burst and a good amount of crowd control but they can’t hop in and out of fights like a thief, they can’t follow elusive targets, their mobility is generally worse than a thief’s and their burst is regulated by cooldowns.

custom arena kits would stop selling = no way this could ever happen not even in a gazillion years.

spirits, minions, phantasms…scrap that kitten, play shatter like a boss.

Acandis.3250:

it’s not about the better rewards. it’s about no skyhammer, that alone is a better reward

A hundred percent this.
I despise that map and i solo team q on a regular basis just to avoid it.

edit:

3/4 of ur guild and 1/2 not

kitten 3/4 + 1/2 does not equal 1 whole

If you are in the black hole (the lower half of the % zone) the only thing you can do to climb up is play an extremely mobility oriented class who can easily dispatch bad players in 1v1 situations (reads, thief).
Don’t cap points, contest them, this way you will earn a time advantage and you’ll be able to exploit your superior mobility even more.
Don’t engage outnumbered fights hoping that your teammates will do something valuable in the meantime, always disengage fights that you can’t win within 10 seconds.
Play dirty, a dishonorable victory is better than an honorable defeat, i can’t tell you exactly what i mean but you can ask around and find out.
Play a build that’s forgiving but still punish bad players: dagger pistol can be fun at times but it is too much error prone, sword dagger is surely cool for duels but it takes too long to kill soldier amulet users with it, sword pistol is the way to go here.
Ping the map: sometimes your teammates will zerg around in a solid pack of 4 players, pinging the map can be an effective way to tell the zergball where to go (hold shift and click on the minimap).

Lastly, know when to stop. If you already lost 3 games in a row it is extremely unlikely that you will win 3 to even up, wait until the next score calculation and then try again. Keep in mind that a win streak after a loss streak is always better than alternating the two of them.

Edit: and if all else fails, you can type “all is vain” in map chat and have a laugh

Congratulation for effectively entering the pvp community

On a side note, it’s amazing how many people in game will get that reference lol (all is vain)

You can’t interrupt healing signet but you can interrupt signet of rage, doing so prevents the buffs from runes of lyssa and puts the runes on full cooldown.

lose 10 games in a row