Guild Wars 2

I still want a statement from A-net that they gone do something about it. It simply can’t be in such a Hugh game that you dump a hole race just becaus it was faster this way.
Oh yeah and what my signature says.

Well said Kerri

Also Stark do you have a post or something? I could not find any post with any statment about it.

Well look at it this way you paied about 20 bucks extra and that is about the price for 2k gems (if you buy them with real money) now you can spend you ingame time with things you like to do instead of grinding for the upgrade.

Shiren nailed pretty much what I wanted to say. Should improve my english skills :P

But what ever. Whould the guys that think supporting is only for the warm feeling you get tell me did you ever play support anywhere? Did you ever give the help that you get for free back? Or do you play the heartseeker spamming thiefe build that does not even think what else could be done the dmg?

GW2 is a MMORPG based on co-operation if only one side gets a benefit … well in nature you call this guys vermin.

Dungones arn’t that hard. You only need a persone that does a bit of a supporty play. But you will never find this in a random group becaus supporting in this game means you get less or nothing .

You seem to neverd have heard of a double denial.

does not mean[that] I don’t expcet = I do expect to get kitten.

ok I forgot the that but still you can get the point.

I seem to be unable to quote/report or edit in a thead that I posted in. +1 vainshes as an option. It is pretty annyoing.

I want that my work is woth something.
I help becaus I want and becaus I want. But it does not mean I should get punished for it. In this game you need a certain amount of farming. If you want ppl to be nice and help each other and give them nothing for it you miss the point in a game. So there must be a reason behind it and I want to know it. I do help selflessy but selflessly does not mean I don’t expcet to at least get something like a well done or good job. In the end we are here in a game. I am not helping poor ppl.

edit: Grammer and stuff

So lets comapre it.

PvP no no no wait sPvP. 3 maps with 5v5 -8v8 modes. A torny mode and a lobby mode.

Then we got WvW all out war between 3 servers in old DaoC style. Some consider it PvP some PvE with the amount of zerg rushing and people doing the jumping puzzle you can’t really tell.

Now PvE. 25 zones that are open. All at least as big as EB or even bigger. Hidden dialoges, jumping puzzle and tons of other stuff. Main story of the game and the player is tolde here.

So you want to tell me I need to have less fun becaus A-net wants to support the guys running the same 3 maps over and over again?

Ok. fine if they do. BUT don’t fu tell me that I am not suppsed to try to change there mind. GW1 had a great PvP but still the focus was the PvE. Why the hell would you else bring out add ons or patches other then blance once?
This isn’t BF or CoG and I don’t think we will be charged 40 bucks for 4 new maps.

So I played my Guardian now since head start. And I really enjoy the class. I am mainly a PvE player and enjoy doing WvW as my kind of PvP. I didn’t have much time to test stuff in the BW so I started him assuming everyone would be at least ok in everything.

However. Now with level 80 and some time on him I feel like the Guardian is 100% balance around working in sPvP without caring how he does in the other modes. His base Hp pool is lower then warrior one and even below some of the leather classes.
In PvE most of his boons are great but you need a lot of timing to put them to a use and not wasted them because of the short time the last. One the other hand some can be spammed without even thinking. But all not a big deal. Really no big deal we are still the supporty mellee class, right? So we can help our team and bust out a bit of dmg right? Right? Wrong. We can do dmg very well and every class seems to be able to but if we try to support…well we get scammed by you for that.

Just to make it clear.
If I support we stop doing dmg for a certain period of time (and with the cast time for some support skills it can take like 4-7 sec.) and help our mates instead. The normal case should be that we still get something for our work. I mean we did help in the fight and maybe even turned the tide so it could be won. And what you give us for in a game where you want that everyone helps each other? Well basically it is a slap in the face and dirty laugh like "hahah you thought you are part of this ".
I just don’t get it I really don’t. Sure bots could be a problem in mass events so scaling what you get for only supporting there or take it out would make sense. But in dungeons. IN YOUR OWN STORYQUEST. Why the hell should I get punished for helping. I mean if I heal my ally in a story quest they do no dmg and if they kill something I get nothing.

Tell me. Please tell me I really tried to find out but I have no clue why this decision was made. I could Rage and tell I am mad about how it is but I want to know why it is like this. Maybe if someone explains it I see the hidden idea behind it. Because atm I have no clue how would come up with this kind of idea in a game based around ppl helping each other and playing together.

I agree. Wrath does it pretty nice he brings offens and defens and that is what out class is about to buff others up and still do some dmg.

Renewed focus is just a piece of kitten. The invulnerability is basicly a 3 stun for you and all you get is you virtues back which isn’t that big in PvE.

Courage does bring nice support for the team but I don’t get why it has so much heal. What is the point in a game where ppl are supposed to take care of themself and don’t wait for the group heal. I mean yes in sPvP it might has it place but 90% of the game is not sPvP and it sucks that all classes are balance around that mode maybe 20% of the palyers really only play.
They should consider to bring back the PvP versions of skills becaus certain skill might be OP in a PvP enviroment but due totaly become totaly pointless in PvE.
Take Shelter a low heal and 2 seconds of block. In PvP this means you are 2 sec safe and get a heal which is great in PvE even silver mobs hit you for twice the amount you heal making it a was of time. Most mobs don’t telegraph there skills that well to make you able to block that.

Argh. What am I talking so much. In the end. The guardian won’t get big buffs becaus it would make him Op in sPvP which means we will be forever mediocare at the other 90% of the contetto shine in one single mode.
Dunno about you but I think I will send my guardian to rest becaus of that. It is just lame how much we need to do and what we get for hit ( hint: it is nothing supporting does not give loot, ep or anything you might would want. Most ppl will not even notice it.)

I would like to have a hammer not something that looks like a polo mallet.

I think they said they working at it atm.
On some Us servers and the spanish Eu server it works becaus you got ppl from other time zone play on that servers. How ever most of the servers don’t have such a second population from a diffrent time zone ( how there are just like 7 german and 6 french only servers). Which means night capping is mainly made by single servers and it sucks.

@shiz I ran both a full dmg build and doing a full supporty build atm and no the support is now where near to each other. I give perma might and prot to my team and cleans all there condtions or give them a other buff that makes them stay alive and deal dmg.
I also spamm my F1 on Cd to give them the boost. It adds a lof of power to the group at the cost of your own.
Is one better then the other. I am not really sure yet.
Both build have there place. But like Kita said the biggest part of the DPS guardians support is perma ret. While (my) support guardian focuses on prot and and buffing up the team.

@kidbs
That is the whole problem we tear people apart in PvP because we got more heals and ways to stop dmg then anyone else in a 1v1. Becaus of that you need to keep the dmg and Hp etc. of the guardian low not make him Op there. How ever in PvE content like dungones 1v1 does not happen unless you want to hall 1v1 you group vs the boss and most bosse atm only have a big HP pool and not much more ( aside from Ac the Ranger boss in Explora mode is the prim example how bosses should be). Also some doe either telegraph ther moves so little or fast that you can’t like hit prot just befor the mage gets hit(well you can but try to do it with all that light effect on the boss he is just a glowing thing).

valdamus.6289:

I agree 110%. I hate the look of my GS while I play my guardian. U wish I could pay $10~15 and chance races to a norm just so I can have a massive GS. Not to mention hit boxes scale down wtffff?

No hit boxes don’t scale down. They are so not doing it focing me to thing like I am twice as high when I see something flying at me. Only tryed it on sPvP though in PvE not much comes flying atm most of the time I jump in first.

Euphoria.2960:

Yea Vale – I am an assassin myself and been having difficulties since the nerf =/

What nerf…. I just realised how long I have been gone there.

Let me answer the new questions like this:

People are like Skritts
All they think about is shiny
Nothing more, nor less.

I can only confrim that it does not affect set recipes ( like the upgrad of matriels).

Thx for the respons Jeffrey. You need to make such statements about the current stat of bugs etc. more offen.

Very nice and informativ post

vote 4 sticky

where is it I gone try it then?

I think you got it wrong. Alot of stuff dosen’t give rewards becaus people would abuse the kitten of every easy way to gain stuff( see dolyaks in wvw and dungon speedruns) not becaus A-net thinks the thing is reward enough.
Greedy people are the reasone why we can’t have nice things ( btw. this is also true in real life)

Well last time I checked ppl didn’t let you hit siege weapons for 5 mins to kill it

But yeah counting support actions would help us a lot, but thena gain ppl would abuse the kitten out of it and no one would doing anything. People atm are still in this I need to farm everything to be the best and I need to do it fast mode from other MMO’s. The best example are the Dolyaks in WvW. They are crucial for the victoy of your side but to main people abused it as cheap exp/karma gain that A-net needed to take out the rewards punishing the people that wanted to play the game and help out there team ( guardians where great at this with 2 staff and gs/hammer you could speed it up all the time and even hold it 3v1 till some help came along).

Yeah but well we are not alone with bad in WvW I think the Necro has similar problems. I think A-net needs to over think there weapons. Having 1 pure support and another pure dmg can work theory but in reality ppl would rather go a bit of both which is more usfull in the short and action packed fights the game provides.

Well you can do it if you have a GS Santent. Everything else either clips with your armor or is to small to really care about.

So i just got a randome group becaus I would like to farm some tokens in there.

We all had no real clue what way does what so we choos at randome.

After we picked the 3 way we run through the Asura gate and got into the cut secene. After that 3 Inquest guys came running from god knows where to fight us.
We beat them and moved on.
We came to the big golem where the Inquest agrues 6 more Inquest guys came running from the far back for some reasone and the boss got aggro.
We tried to fight and got nucked down.
Ok np we thought maybe we run to much in.
Next try ranger pulls at 1200 range. Boss moves to us the 6 guys come runnig form afar again. We try to run, but they chase us all the way back.

So could someone explain how you can amke the boss without pulling the 6 mobs?
You can’t possibly do both at the same time. The boss is tanky and uses quite a lof of knock backs and the inquest guys apply all kind of conditons in an AoE.

So any help? Did we do something wrong?

I personly don’t consider the dungones or any kind of late game done at this point. A-net rushed the end of the game at a horrible speed ( I blam Ncsoft) and like 80% of what is supposed to be late game is buggy.

To Structured Dungeons. Why did he come here then in first place? A-net did a pretty clear statment it will be chaotic and you will need to be awar what you do and it is pretty much what it is. If he expected that there will be a tank and heal after all he was wrong.

I agree with the points, but I simply think that are problems are there i in the first palce because A-net got foced to rush the game (I blame ncsoft for that(I should make this my signature i use it almost every post XD) ) You can see it at every corner of the game event chains that work well untill a certain points. High level grear that has the same look like low level gear for some reasone. For me it is clear and I hope A-net gets things done becaus it would be just sad to see such a great game be wasted by haste.

All full dmg/high dmg specs for the guardian are pretty high risk but mediocare reward( high risk becaus you loose a lot support power and with our already low Hp pool it can back fire pretty fast).
All are sub par if you compare them to other melee dps ( besides the necro and mesmer).
Also forget the word burst. I am happy to crit for 1,5k with a 2h weapon.

The problem with the heals ( like most guardian skills and traits) is that they are made so they are fine in sPvP. That is a controlled enviroment with 5-8 players.
Normal PvE, WvW or Dungones are no where near that scale of dmg that are used for reference there. So the guardian is a but kitten as he can’t get much stronger becaus he is already really strong in sPvP but meh in PvE in the end A-net can’t keep the balancing of both atm.

Well if you complain about staffs look at Hammer and mace. Polo hammer ? WTF I wanted a weapon.

Don’t pin me down on it but I think they scaled the hole weapons down with one tool ( not like you normaly do it by scaling down the weapon part by part on so they look nice ) and it only strongers my belive that Ncsoft rushed A-net to bring out the game.

The mesmer has feedback and is ranged O.o
This is no real argument.
It is not like the guardian is the only class to have protection and Aegis. If that would be the case I would be fine.
But group prot can be done by pretty much any class (correct me if I am wrong), Aegis can be done with the Mesmer as well ( tried it in Spvp and it gives you at least 1 aegis every time you use Chaos Storm).
Yes we can keep it up quite a lot but it forces use to go away from dmg ( to keep prot up 100% of the time you need a 2h and the trait for longer boons) while the hammer has great utility and nice dmg is is far behind other classes dps.
Yes we can do decent dps with great sword and burn but again it is not near what other can do without giving up utility for the team ( utility as a term not the skills). The crit dmg of GS is nice but not great, burn ( like all con dmg ) is only working in 1v1 or if no one else does that condition.

Yes we are surly not in the worst spot and maybe I sound a bit to over dramatic, but we do lack real build options when it comes to dmg and our mitigation does nothing vs con dmg ( but at least a-net was smart enough to give us enough ways to cleans them so it is fine).
I am not saying that the guardian is broken or bad or anything it is just like you say things got rushed and feel odd atm ( I blame only Ncsoft for that they did it with there other games and I pretty sure they would do it again) and it makes me sad.
But again we are not the only class with problems.
Like 40% of the Necro and Mesmer traits don’t work and there Pets and Illusions are buggy as hell.
And they also lack building options.
Things are wrong atm and they need to change I only hope A-net takes there time before they bust out the next add-on or anything else big ( what would be the point with the game being so buggy).

Also ranged weapons T.T

No they don’t Ryuujin.
Asura Guradian sanctuary is small then an norn guardian sanctuary. It is pretty much like that for all no target ground AoE spells and flamthrower is like that ( ground aoe con from the character) and it sucks. befor hand A-net said all races and class will be the same now we have asura with norn hit box but smallet Aoe fields and 1:1 downscaled wapones. Fu Ncsoft for focing them to rush it.

So I guess it wasn’t just me. It is just sad that we have the lowst base Hp pool , one of the worser Dmg specks and the worst ranged wapones.

Sigh I still don’t get why we have like kitteny ranged skills. It there any hiden idea behind it.

So how are we supposed to gain something in WvW?

Supporting is great but does not give anything.
The tomes are great aswell but to be usfull every 2min for 20 seks is a bit sub par. Secpter is nice but I am not sure about it.
So how do you play Guardian in WvW

Maybe my English is to bad but I try to get my point across.

I don’t blame A-net for getting hacked. I blame A-net for giving out if that e-mail is used for a gw2 account or not.
That is a rookie mistake and if you don’t get it, let me give you an example. If you would go to the bank and tell them a random number and they would tell you if it belongs to a bank account or not. When you get one right you make a bank transfer. I am pretty sure you would tell your bank that it made a mistake for giving out you bank number . But according to your logic they did nothing wrong they didn’t get hacked right?
But he why think about something just use the same answer over and over you sure get it right one time.

That still does not explain why stuff that is basicly everyones bussins like the story end is so bugged and major stuff in later areas like drac champions ( The Shatterer ) or in genral bug stuff that you see within a few miniutes when you try it ( you can tell me you can over see that something is never free even if you reset the server which is supposed to reset the state at this point I would take a closer look at it) Also it is big in the later areas but it is by far not limited to that. A lot of things went wrong in the starting areas ppl explored in the BW and some stuff didn’t get fixed till the game came out. There is no excusse for some thing like that. Also I am not sure but I think A-net did put an unstable build up on the servers after they got crushed in the headstart, don’t pin me up on that but a lot of fuzz happend after that “fix”

I think it depends on the run. CoF speed run is just a reagula run where you do everything in the limits of the instance. You kill the first boss, get the bombs ( it is quite hard to get it if you don’t set up at the bombs befor the event starts ), run over to the magmazide (spelling lol) , kill the guys befor the chamber kit or kill the guys after and then do the boss. Arah speedrun on the other hand is clearly a exploit you stuck mobs into a place and then skip over wall you should not get over.

Some of the stuff is in later areas and it would spoile quite a lot for ppl who didn’t see that part of the game yet. But if you want some examples take the last Stroy fight on the air shipe. That is one big thing you should check befor you finish the game, or the temple of the gods in orr. When I found them I was like awesome but then they where bugged and I could do nothing… The list could go on but the general froum is not the palce for that all I wanted to say with my post is that A-net ( or ther bug check team) did fail at there job. There I said it. They failed it and there is no doubt about it and rather then to tell us “Hey we know there is a lot of fuss and there is stuff that should not be we are sorry” A-net waits for use to find bugs and then fixes them.

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@Salfos
1. It is not the system. It is how it could even be that there was no stop for randome trying out e-mails and actually telling if it was used or not. It is a hugh lack on there said to tell what is wrong and they did change it. Sure the ppl who use the same pw and e-mail over and over are to blame as well but A-net is sure not the guys who made no mistakes in that case.
2. I did and I learned that major bugs in core elements can be put out before going live 90% of the time by just using the program like a normal user. I am not sure if you finished the story yet but the bug at the end is SO massive that no one can tell me that A-net could have over looked it.
3. I never said anything about the launch. It is about how bugs and glitches are handled. A-net just keeps silent till it gets to big.
4. Dunno but I think that Female Asura should not run around with there chest totally bare even if there are no boobs . If they cover them with underwear in first place they should act like there is something. A lot of the other races female armor works around them having breast and the charr and Asura are a bit left out of this but simply giving them no love because of that is lame. But I understand if it is not that imported for you.

Srsly. The game is one of the best games I have played in a long time and the best MMO I ever played but you made sooooo many rookie mistakes and stuff that should not have happened in the first place, that I really question if you had enough time to get everything done.
To me as a customer it looks like the end of the game was rushed because someone pressured you to bring it out and lets be honest there is no talking around it. There are up to now major bugs in traits of all classes, events start to get buggier the later the game gets and you are not aware of some basic mechanics of you own security system at launch.

I can understand that every new game has some issues but if they start to stack up that much you should step up and tell you costumers rather then keep trying to fix stuff as it comes up.
I am not aware what the live team does but a big part of there job right know should be to just find out what is bugged because before that balancing is pretty useless.
For the love of the game you should think about some sort of way to make the time where the game is only a shade of itself a bit more fun for use. Because if it stays this way you will barley done by the time you want to bring out a new add-on or big patch and the gods save use if it happens again.

I don’t want to be negative or anything but A-net you made a great job at GW1 and you made the foundation for a even great game with GW2 just don’t waste it buy rushing stuff and trying to work at to much at one.

Some may call me picky or akitten or what ever for this post. Well go ahead if you don’t agree. But I think if a game like this comes you and the team shows so much effort they should bring it to the end and not stop half way through ( like with the Asura what the hell did you think when you made female Asura just use the male faces , hair and wear all male amour? ) and make it fell like you lost interest.

I hope to get some answers about why some stuff ended to be like it turned out but I guess I can’t expect to much.

Also sry for any kind of bad spelling/ grammar English isn’t may native language

I can understand Op it is like this. High ranged classes like the ele, range or mesmer camp certain spots where you have to expose yourself and can’t hit back . While this is tactic and all it is beyond lamery ( I totaly didn’t mack up this word )if 5-15 ppl stay at one spot and use there range spells. The Mesmer is the 1 douchbags at this becaus his GS 1 skill ignores walls (dunno if that it is intended but WHO CARES i can’t could not even report him from bug using if I want). Also dunno if they changed it , but last time I checked you can build up siged wapones in the jumping puzzle and now you srsly want to tell me this is and kind of fun? So we gone play from now on WvW and how first rushs the camp spot and does not die to bordem? Either limit the time palyers can spent in a certain part of the puzzle or give ppl that get into such a place some kind of way to get past it the invis buff does not last enouh to get through the well acorss the platform, through the dark area and up the areana to not get camped. At least I can’t if the camara zoomes all the time into your head as an Asura but that is a other problem.

But to all the ppl that think it is fine, if you don’t see that certain parts of the game a rushed, proabably bcause of NCsoft then sry. I can’t help you.

If it is like the hammer chill then you get a global cd an even if it is AoE it pick either the target you locked on or the closest target

Tbh I feel that as a Guardian out suppot power is a lot less the most other classes. On the pro side is that we can do a lot of long term prot and the Aoe heal from our elite can be awesome on the con is that a lot of classes can do similar things in theory na ppl just play them offensiv which leaves the Guardian room in groups for now but I don’t think a full supporty guardian could compete with a ele or mesmer that srsly want to support there group ( yeah we got Agies but we have like 2 ways to give it to ppl around us and it is both on a long cd). Also our dmg is even in a full dmg build just a joke. I am very sad what a-net made . Sure the guardian was to strong in the first bw but to make something like this of him in the final game… well either the qulity control and balance guys didn’t show up for there job or they did it very poorly becaus it is not like a guardian problem that the classes don’t play like they should not to mention all the bugs

Yeah being out numbered is a really hugh problem atm. And as long as A-net does not fix the limt pre server ( I don’t think they have ) and the I can be invisible in a mass when I runa round a corner thing WvW is just a bad copy of what it should be.

I really enjoy the mode but srsly A-net you should smack some of your guys that did the controlling for everything there didn’t do there work in major parts of the game ( like the cut out in on area)

Oh so much do it does not matter what race you pickXD

GS are ok imho.
Hammer and mace on the other hand look stupid as hell. The basic hammer skin( wood stick with a big stone at the end) looks fine most of the others look like did scale it with out think out the proportion. I recently got the Hammer from the ZoF but it looks more like polo hammer then a weapon.

But I think it is a general problem with the Asura. The camera derps every time you want to do a jumping puzzle, the female asura got like 3 faces and 3 hair types that are not used by male. All armour types beside the culture armour are just downscaled human male armour, yes all even female asura got male models. I think can’t get myself to play a female Asura because of that.
I don’t know why but it seems to me like A-net just was under to much time pressure after the Charr came out.

That is the main reasone I don’t have a twink yet. I know I want to play a necro but can’t decide which race XD

I don’t quite agree with everpoint but I can agree that the staff ( and also the secpter) fell like we need to give the Guardian one more wapone solutions.

It does provide a nice amount if support. But every other class can do something similare maybe a bit less scaled but with lower CD and without giving all ther dmg up for it ( thake the ele or necro).
A-net hasn’t said a word about it. I dunno why maybe they know the kitten they did and sit it out till they have a change or maybe they acutally think it is fun to bust out low heals and be the speed kitten. As far as that goes the only optiones of a guardian to support and do dmg are mellee range (2h and mace) and it is not possible to stay 100% of the time in mellee range ( unless you run one of those akward 100% blind build but then again you give up on a lot of utility and fast attacking bosses still fu you over.) They need to tweak the guardian quite a lot, but so they need to do to a lot of classes. Tbh besiedes the warrior( and maybe the ranger ) every class is not what it is meant to be.

My male Asura does also remain silent if I use the skill. Proabably buggy atm

Chii.2814:

i have 20 points in honor and 10 in valor, just for 20% cooldown on greatswords and condition removal every 10 seconds

Honestly if you guys think that melee is useless in dungeons as a guardian, youre doing it wrong.

I wield Sword+Shield (not even sword focus which has more blocking and blind) and greatsword.
-Virtue of Justice activation Blinds (and vuln)
-Virtue of Courage gives aegis
-Sword #2 Blinds (and vuln)
-Sword #3 blocks ranged
-Shield #4 has protection
-Shield #5 has range block and push
-Greatsword #4 has blind (and vuln, and has 20% faster cooldown)
-I bring Hold the Line for protection and heal
-I bring Save yourself for protection and heal

By using the above at the right times, Im able to stay in melee battle for a good long while “tanking”. This without sacrificing too much on the offense ability, its not a mace; its a sword one of the most powerful single target weapons a guardian can have. Greatsword is THE most powerful aoe weapons a guardian has. And all this for 20 in honor and 10 in valor. The rest of my points are 30 Radiance and 10 Zeal

All is takes is knowing what to use on what. Keep protection up, Hit the blinds and aegis or even Shield #5 to interrupt when you see a huge attack coming.

Im glad guardian isnt just a straightforward tank-with-stats class.
Im glad you actually have to carefully manage protection abilities and hit them at the correct times to stay alive.

So you give up all your support to not die and do less dmg then a warrior? What is the point then to be a supporty fighter if you can’t do it. Guradians are punished in every possible way only becaus they where pretty strong in the first bw. Dunno if you ever looked up other classes but it is even easier for a engi or thief to speck into dmg and life then for use.
Valore tree is the only dmg boost we have and it all goes over burnning and 2h sword. Burning is in dungones like not really a dmg source as pretty much every other class can do it aswell and will take the buff from you. 2h is meh if you want to be any use for your group. you can pull stuff together blind and give a bit vengence. It is just stupied that a-net gives us hugh heals but takes everything else and then is like btw heals have long cd becaus we don’t want a healer class.

I don’t get it either. Yes we do have alot of defensiv tool but it is not like ANY of our offensiv waponse do provide those things. 2h and 1h swords have the bar minimum of deffensiv stuff so is the tourch. The warrior is way better of with an agressiv build the guradian on the other hand has to go defensiv becaus the devs said “FU offensiv Guradians you do to much in spvp we gone nerver you everywhere to the ground” well as a PvE and WvW player I say you kitten it up in a majore third degree what the guradian does and what he can choose. If you don’t pump youself up with though and vit gear you die fast, but on the other hand you lack dmg that way and as supporting does not give you loot we are kitten. We need to balance offense and deffens to the last bit and still be on the downside while the guy how is supposed to be a jack of all trades does everything well. Yes me mad atm. It is just not fun this way.
Hell we don’t even have a ranged option and the only conditon dmg condition we can use is burn , which the warrior also can speck into for what ever reasone.

The game is great and the ideas are awesome but get the sPvP there own balancing only becaus it it op in 5v5 or 8v8 does not mean you have to mack us suffer when we do dungeons and majore world bosses.

@Svarty.8019 It would be no big deal to run away and hit from afar if not hitting from afar would be like doing nothing