Guild Wars 2

Tera, aion, wow, swtor lotro etc…

Just seeing an exclamation mark, knowing I have to go back and forth to that NPC to complete a quest is boring as hell. Not being able to dodge or move while attacking is another big no no for me after gw2, trinity is something I really dislike, locking me into a single role and nothing else is boring and archaic, I like mixing it up melee, range than play support than offensive or tanky, all on one single character.
hell I can’t even play the previous guild wars game itself anymore, even though I love it so much it just feels to outdated.

I would like to see this implemented if only so I can get rid of those pesky MF leechers !

Leo G.4501:

Latinkuro.9420:

Winds.3087:

Ever tried jumping before you RTL?
http://i.imgur.com/4FzAPnr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dRsSN8n.jpg

Doesn’t work !

here is a video http://youtu.be/RXcYLoLJybQ

Um, you made tat jump. Easily.

What you visually saw though was just a graphical glitch. Lots of times when I load into LA, I’ll enter that section and there is no visible floor and the mystic forge is invisible but it’s still there. Another issue was with the camera. Even on some dungeons, when you use screen-shake skills, the camera will occasionally sink into the ground for a second before returning back to normal.

In that video, a glitch made it look like you fell but in actuality, you ended up right next (probably running into) the mystic forge.

That was merely a glitch mate did you notice it had the underwater weapon still equipped next to the forge ?

Look at the other videos in which I take jumps with and without jump to both small and medium gaps.

sadly even these little jumps are nothing compared to what RTL used to be able to do before all the nerfing !

all they needed to do was fix the landing freeze after RTL and the targetting eveything else about the skill was fine, including vertical axis which it also no longer does.

LordByron.8369:

mind that rtl was already changed some time ago…..

it was a straight line once, changed to be a curve 2 months ago……but i could make jumps longer……

those vids seems old….from when rtl was linear.

Have to test it…

Yes I know it was changed some time ago, in fact it has been changed twice.
I feel that unless someone raises his voice in protest they will just keep nerfing everything and not think about player impact at all.

I liked my RTL the way it was just fine.
it was changed once, and I was ok with it mind you I wasn’t excited but whatever.
now it has been changed again !

This is where I say the playerbase needs to raise their voice in protest or they will nerf and suck all the fun out of the game at this rate.

To me RTL was a lot more fun than opening a boring portal and popping from one place to the other, at least with RTL it was fun and adventurous, sometimes you’d die because the gap was either to high or to far.

skinnyb.5920:

This thread is a lie. I am doing jump puzzles right now and having no problems crossing gaps. I was in Lion’s Arch earlier too crossing over the water and onto ledges.

It is the same as before Monday’s patch. These guys are just bad at RTL.

1 You obviously have no idea what is being talked about here.
2 new players wouldn’t notice why should they, they never experienced RTL the way it was implemented originally.

3 yes you can close very small gaps as shown by my videos taken today jan. 30th 2013.
look at what happens when you try a medium gap total failure !

4 the older video is how RTL used to be before all the nerfing !!!

Here is the undeniable proof videos make up your own minds.
I for one want my RTL back with it’s functionality intact.
Mesmers and engi’s still have their portals and rocket boots intact
so why did they take RTL functionality away !
if it was for sPVP advantage issues than I say split the skill !
but than again than why isn’t mesmer portal seen in the same light !

Here are the videos:

small gap with jump before RTL: success
http://youtu.be/Dnu3Qkpz1Hg

medium gap with jump before RTL: failure
http://youtu.be/Cdsh_nRPczM

small gap jump before RTL: success
http://youtu.be/Rm5S87lbWeA

small gap no jump before RTL: failure
http://youtu.be/v24wt1Bi82s

Ride the lightning videos by others before the uncalled nerf !

teg.1340:

Technically RTL is a Charge like the warriors rush skill. Charge is meant to travel fast, not to jump across obstacles. Thats what Leap is for like warriors Savage Leap or Eles Lightning Leap or Magnetic Leap.

Sure, leaping across obstacles is awesome fun, but as a trade-off Leaps are lower range than charges (600 vs 1200).

You cannot have it all. Get used to it.

I’d be happy if it was even at 600 range right now (for the gap closing potential) which it isn’t ! you say we can’t have it all, who’s asking for everything !
if portals are left the way they are I want my RTL the way it was !

more videos coming in after they finish uploading, like they say a picture is worth a thousand words, in this case pictures are not enough so videos incoming !

Winds.3087:

Ever tried jumping before you RTL?
http://i.imgur.com/4FzAPnr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dRsSN8n.jpg

Doesn’t work !

here is a video http://youtu.be/RXcYLoLJybQ

All I’m saying is why change only ele’s RTL when portals and rocket boots are still there
revert it back to the way it used to be please !

Someone said it only limits the jumps you can make, well, it limits them to the point I’m better of just doing a normal jump it’s the same distance !
RTL used to have a 1200 range, it could close any gap that falls within that distance it even had vertical axis !
now it’s just a fancy way of doing a normal jump.

And Kosbabis
You should use your brain to before trying to insult people just because you feel threatened or do not agree with what they are saying !

if the skill had unfair advantage issues in sPVP why not split it ?
and for that matter how are portals than not an advantage issue ?

You talk about the new RTL

RTL locks on target if you have a target !
if you do not have a target it goes in the direction you’re facing !
and it has always been meant to work this way, that’s not new it was just bugged before as in sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t !
but no it’s nothing new !

Xialoh.7261:

Ah, wow. I stopped playing because I was waiting for ele to be put in a reasonable place, yet all I’m seeing, forum to forum, is ele nerfs. I loved ride the lightning, and they took functionality away from that too >_>. Suppose I’ll be back in a month or two to see where the profession is then.

Don’t misunderstand ele’s are not exactly in a bad position at all specially D/D ele’s, right now ele’s are pretty tough to beat. It’s just that this change is uncalled for seeing as mesmers have their portals and engineers have their rocket boots.

I’m amazed there aren’t many more posts about this at all.
taking ride the lightning from us and leaving portals and rocket boots is not exactly a good thing.

What next ? warrior savage leap nerf ?
seriously give me back my ride the lightning the way it was

Xialoh.7261:

I’m just returning to the game….what changed?

Ride the lightning no longer crosses any gaps or anything, it’s just like fast walking on the ground even a stone will stop you from moving forward, the skill has become lame.

In various interviews it has been mentioned that you’d like to give more professions abilities somewhat like mesmer portals well, guess what ? we elementalists already had such a great tool it’s Called ride the lightning but you changed it and it is now worthless (I say worthless of course compared to what it used to be able to do compared to know)

My point is, please change ride the lightning back to it’s original state !
why should mesmers be the only ones ?
and even engineers have rocket boots so why did you take away ours in the 1st place ?

If you feel like me vote +1 on this post or leave your thoughts behind in a post, keep this on the 1st page draw attention to it, let’s get ride the lightning’s glory back

EDIT:

Videos added for visual clarification as to what is going on.

These are no old videos these are january 30 2013 videos

small gap with jump before RTL: success
http://youtu.be/Dnu3Qkpz1Hg

medium gap with jump before RTL: failure
http://youtu.be/Cdsh_nRPczM

small gap jump before RTL: success
http://youtu.be/Rm5S87lbWeA

small gap no jump before RTL: failure
http://youtu.be/v24wt1Bi82s

Videos before nerf:
the following are old videos

WeLoveKanjimari.6725:

You cannot solo the kill combo daily which is kitten me off pretty hardcore. You can’t even do it with strangers, you HAVE to add people to a party to do it.

They made these achievements sound like a reason to come back to the game, but…yeah. No. This is really stupid.

you do not have to be in a party for the combo kills to work at all just roaming around strolling together is enough, just make sure the final killshot is a finisher inside a combo field.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Latinkuro.9420:

Changes I would love to see implemented now that hey plan to redesign Boss Encounter Mechanics:

1 Remove the annoying defiance buff from Bosses it was a lazyman’s way to fix the core of the issue anyway.

2 display name coherence, what I mean is most of the time I have no idea who is writing to me because the name is always different and if I’m in the middle of a fight I can’t stop to hover over their name to see the account name !

Give us options, say, display account name only for all characters of the same account or display chosen nickname for all characters of this account.

Just my 2 cents.’’

1. Defiance is necessary unfortunately, and we figured that out early on. Without defiance, groups just stack knockdown skills and utilities and kill every boss without them being able to get up off the floor. There are some funny videos of this that can be found where players repeatedly throws rocks at Adelbern and knock him over constantly, allowing them to kill him with ease.

2. I’m a bit confused still about what you are implying with this and how it effects boss re-designs. Could you elaborate some more?

I mean, I can understand why defiance is there right now at the current state of the game.

But, now that they will be revising, reworking Boss encounters and adding possible phases to those Boss encounters, it would be a good idea to come up with something other than a buff that negates all forms of control.

Changes I would love to see implemented now that hey plan to redesign Boss Encounter Mechanics:

1 Remove the annoying defiance buff from Bosses it was a lazyman’s way to fix the core of the issue anyway.

2 display name coherence, what I mean is most of the time I have no idea who is writing to me because the name is always different and if I’m in the middle of a fight I can’t stop to hover over their name to see the account name !

Give us options, say, display account name only for all characters of the same account or display chosen nickname for all characters of this account.

Just my 2 cents.’’

Red Falcon.8257:

I’m not sure what you guys think of it, but I for one don’t enjoy it so much.

Did you ever go hunting in real life?
Imagine you shoot a turkey, rush to recover the body just to find a ticket in its place that says “Collect 743 of these to exchange with a real Turkey at your local market”.
Now imagine the reaction of the hunter.

Similarly, I get more enjoyment to hunt mobs for the hope of rare loot (good old req8 golds?), rare skins, rare materials.
The shift nowadays seems to be that you need to complete X a specific number of times to get an item, there is no real epicness about this.

Why can’t the Ice Elemental boss drop a rare Ascended Icy Dragon Sword/Staff with an unique built-in mod, or the colossus boss drop his Ascended Cultist Hammer with his own mod?
Nah, they’re just things to kill fast so you get the tokens.

“Hey look, I looted this Shaman Staff off the Grawl Shaman himself! Very rare!”
“Hey look, I got this Shaman Staff from the vendor for 837 token I gained by rushing fractals”
There’s a big difference imo.

TL;DR Please add a minimal chance for bosses to drop epic unique gear.

because RNG is an archaic kittenty system, designed to reward only the biggest of biggest farmers that play for hours and hours on end, I for one don’t see that as fun at all and (imo) most gw2 players feel the same

Why is this dagger pointing up ?
all other daggers in the game point downwards, I totally like the look but totally discouraged to make them because of the direction they point !
total deal breaker, pls A.net make them point the correct way daggers look so much cooler pointing down.

http://i.imgur.com/tgu9Y.jpg

That looks an awefull lot like tequatel the sunless to me.
which is odd :S

targetting will we see improvements to the targeting systems ? example white and yellow named mobs not be in next/closest target rotations.

warriors warriors need some love to be viable in sPVP or tPVP at all, when ?

comments Gathering tools with no level requirement ? this is so bad I’m surprised it is still in there ! this is icing on the cake for hackers and gold sellers, they can mass mine orichalcum sell it, get gold and sell gold for money all at lv 2 !

I don’t know what the OP is talking about I just transferred my toon back to my main server for free, and yes free server transfers are ruining WvW but unless they make guesting available it is a necessary evil for now at least. Server hopping and the works, there is no server pride at all !

I want this to but,

Many threads about this have been around since launch, I do hope someday they implement it but they have said several times already they have nothing in the works for dual spec for the foreseeable future.

Volkon keeps putting into words what I can only think of thx again mate yours is better than my this is why you’re playing it wrong it has a lot of explanation in it.
yes last reply I just had to give kudos to volkon

I object your honor !
you say rotations in GW2 are the same as in wowask games ? seriously this alone is insane just to say it.

you say: You use your highest dps skills on CD in preference to available lower dps skills or auto-attacks and this is why you’re playing it wrong !

all skills in gw2 are optional and situational, trinity based games cannot say the same most of your skills follow a certain pattern and for the sake of rotations cannot be used whenever you feel like using it.

what I mean by the right gear is this, in gw2 you can go in with rare yellow gear and still come out on top because your skill makes up for the difference, in wowask trinity based game the fights are scripted to such an extend you will not succeed unless you have the right gear for that particular encounter it is the reason there is gear score and raiding tiers.

also I’m done replying to this thread !

it’s going nowhere, trinity addicted automatons will never ever understand the concept of freedom, why should they ? they’ve never had freedom before !

Sylv.5324:

Vasham.2408:

I personally can’t wait for the players who would insult anyone who perfers the trinity as “unskilled.” I dare you to go up to a top 100 WoW raiding guild and say that.

This isn’t WoW, and you are unskilled at GW2 combat if you can’t master it.

wow players are good at following scripts and they call it skill, sure it’s a skill alright just NOT the kind I’d want to have in GW2.
GW2, is more about acting and reacting to what is going on around you.

think about it like this:
trinity
you’re a dog on a leash (player) and you follow your master (script) everywhere he says you have to go, you have no choice you’re on a leash, you do not know the meaning of freedom it is a concept alien to you.

GW2
you’re a dog with no leash (player) and you have a master (script) you can follow if you want or you can bite him, run off and do what you feel is best its up to you.

Raine.1394:

Here the word script is used inappropriately. It suggests you don’t have to think about a fight and situational awareness is key to success in GW2 or WoW. The more appropriate word to use in the discussion is role. And, yes, it’s true that if you don’t perform your role well under the trinity things won’t go well. It’s the same IRL. In an operating room there are a set number of surgeons, nurses, and an anesthesiologist. The number of instruments on the trays are scripted, the medical devices are standard for the procedure, and, yes, this is brain surgery.

What you describe in your last sentence is the berzerker battlefield, everyone doing doing what is right in their own eyes. It’s a very primitive understanding of human behavior in groups. And, it’s not how humans function at their highest level of effectiveness in games or in operating rooms.

here the word role is used inappropriately, and the correct word is script why?
here, in a wowask trinity fight it doesn’t matter how well you perform your role if, you do not have the gear for the boss encounter, if you do not keep up with silly rotations, if you do not follow the script that says unless you do this you will die horribly.

To use your operating room example,
Trinity example:

there are points at which you have to use specific tools at a specific moments or anything else you do will fail horribly no matter how good a surgeon you may be this is holy trinity style scripting

Gw2 example:
the instruments are the same as the previous example but because only the boss and not the whole fight has been scripted to have a specific trinity party you can deal with it as you see fit, to put it in your surgeon perspective, you have a massive bleed do you use a clamp, do you use suction or do you finish the operation while using suction and blood transfusions to keep going ?

in GW2 you have all those options open to you and you choose the course that feels best to you, in trinity gameplay the script says use the clamp or die

Again to put it in surgeon terms as you seem to like those, in trinity based gameplay only a brain surgeon is allowed to perform brain surgery, only a heart surgeon is allowed to perform heart surgery and so on.

in GW2 is more like you’re a general surgeon and you can perform any of those if the need arises.

Rukia.4802:

VOLKON.1290:

Rukia.4802:

All sounds great on paper, but combat is boring in game, cool story though. And I stand by the fact that this is a pure DPS game. Cool, you can remove conditions and cripple foes. I can do that in any trinity game. I can even heal my self in WoW on my rogue more than I can in GW2.

Sorry but GW2 is not progressing forward in any sort of trinity.

It sounds great on paper, it works better in practice if you actually do it. Anyone with a clue regarding GW2 combat is fully aware that this is much more than a “pure DPS” game. You’re allowed your opinions regardless of how wrong they are, but you’re not allowed your own facts. The examples I gave, however, only scratch the surface of the capabilities each player has with their chosen profession, the weapons they choose, the traits they select, the utilities they choose, etc.

Sorry but GW2 is not progressing forward in any sort of trinity. Good news… they’re not trying to progress forward in any sort of trinity. They’ve progressed forwards by leaving an archaic system behind.

All that and you think GW2 has no trinity. Lol okay not going to argue with a troll anyway. Ever heard of DPS/Support/CC, by chance?

You are literally forced to DPS on any character btw, and I’m not talking utilities, I’m talking core mechanics of every profession. DPS, DPS, and more DPS.

looking at it in this narrow minded way, the holy trinity should than be renamed to the holy duo because dps is inevitable for all classes after all, we all need to kill things.

And no gw2 has no trinity, it has roles and even those are optional !
no locking me into doing 1 specific thing all the time like a mindless automaton !

Raine.1394:

Omega.1473:

Raine.1394:

GW2 has 5 trait lines. You choose the role you want to play in GW2 by choosing your build, weapons, traits, and gear, exactly the same as under the trinity. The question you are asking in GW2 is do I want to focus on damage, support, or control. What you call shades of grey I am calling insignificant function within a designated role.

BS.

Alright, what role are these two characters:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARSlYg67mFSKEf4ESWhCE7BGBfZ01DKyhYIA;ToAA2CnoyyklILbWuskZtIY8B

A variant of the ubiquitous Altruistic Healing Guardian. Spams buffs like they’re going out of style (support). Greatsword does very respectable damage + mix of Knights/Berserkers to support it (DPS). Has Altruistic healing + Toughness through the roof so it functions as a very effective tank (control).

Now which one is it? This is one of the most prevalent builds out there. Which role does it fill?

How about this guy: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJATRjEVJ2RWGWs2Bi1DC1nB9ek+Y1eXhRVyuKA;ToAA2Coouxcj4G7Nubk3swYQB

Ranger with dual birds + max range longbow with a high crit chance + sigil of Air + Marksman line (DPS). But in addition, Healing Spring’s regen grating + boost to regen duration from runes + traits + ability to grant regen using projectile finishers through the water field and group condition cleansing through healing spring (support/healer). And then to top it off, he can quickly swap to Greatsword for control and tanking, especially with his high crit chance + sigil of blood, 2 sources of “always on” passive regen from signet + Natural Healing (more with some Mango pies) and a 6 second invulnerability. Not to mention, 2 sources of stability.

What role are they? Answer me that. Because I play both of them and I can tell you that defining them is impossible. Beyond that, they play completely differently despite the fact that they both fill the “same roles”.

That’s an easy one. They fulfill all the roles and don’t do any of them with any significance, except DPS. And, even that you gimp to the extent you go for support. I believe you’ve illustrated the problem the OP is suggesting that exists in the game. There are roles which are defined in GW2 but none of them feel significant beyond DPS. Again, roles in groups are hard-coded in humans. In order to fulfill a role and find it satisfying, it should be and feel significant.

those 2 guardian builds are more support based than anything else.
does that mean he can’t dps? no it doesn’t, does that mean he can’t perform control? no it doesn’t.

It means his primary focus is support, that is all it means.
it makes a huge difference to have a support build guardian in your party, you will certainly feel the huge difference, when all of a sudden you’re only taking half the damage and regenerating health at an alarming rate, while putting retaliation out and contributing to dps all at the same time.

if you don’t have a guardian in your party you better get a support ele or a shouts healer warrior, it’s not the same but quite close.

@TWMagimay, so not true,

the very definition of best build in any trinity mmorpg is this:

dps best = min/max for your given class
tank best = min/max for your given class
heal best = min/max for your given class

Anything subpar or catered to your individual desire is purely minor, maybe one or two skills or skill points at best.

there are those in which even race/class combinations are the best for a given role
and if you choose anything else you’re not doing the best in your given part of the trinity and as such will get you kicked off the party most of the time because of dps meters !

Also I hate the fact that in a trinity mmo my toon is always locked in place if I go tank that is all I can do, not to mention the fact that most trinity mmo’s are all about playing the UI and not looking at what is going on, as long as you keep up with your skill rotation you can watch TV if you felt like it.

CoRtex.2157:

Latinkuro.9420:

Also, roles in gw2 are working as intended.
the problem is puggers don’t really care to ask the fundamental questions after the party has been formed.

1 – who will take care of support?
2 – who will take care of control?
3 – who is going to dps?

these 3 questions solve a lot of issues, shortcomings and wipes.
if you do not ask you end up with 5 dps !

Just go 5 dps, way faster, you won’t wipe if you know how to play.

tell that to all the people that keep wiping, come to the forums to complain and ask for the stupid trinity to be implemented.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Onshidesigns.1069:

BaconCatTheGreasy.9542:

I prefer it when women wear actual armour, not distraction chainmail bikins.

I would like to see Chainmail bikinis for under garments.

Just isn’t practical though. Have you ever worn chain mail before? It pinches. A lot. Thus why people who wear chain mail, wear something under it to prevent it from pinching their skin every time they move.

Now imagine that as underwear. Not a fun time at all. And if they wore something under it to prevent that pinching, then it would be pointless to even wear the chain mail in the first place. Especially if it is just underwear. No one wants to sleep in chain mail briefs when they have on perfectly fine regular briefs underneath.

I could understand wanting different underwear styles or the ability to dye underwear, but chain mail underwear….. I just couldn’t put my character through such torture.

Vulcans ! (read Role players)

VOLKON.1290:

Vasham.2408:

I personally can’t wait for the players who would insult anyone who perfers the trinity as “unskilled.” I dare you to go up to a top 100 WoW raiding guild and say that.

The problem with using WoW raids as a base to determine skill is that they’re nothing more than scripted events. When a new raid is made, the “top” guilds get to beta test the raid. They’re also given the script on how to fight that particular fight. Tanks do this, dps avoid that, etc. Once they’ve mastered the script, they create videos to tell the rest of the community exactly how to do the fight. The only skill they really have is skill at following a script. When I was playing (pre-Cata), tanking was going to the right place and doing my 9-6-9 rotation, occasionally using a taunt if an add broke loose or whatever. At predetermined (and loudly alarmed) moments I may need to add in an additional mitigation skill… that was pretty much it. On my hunter, go there, start rotation. Alarm sounds, next line in the script.

That’s what I like about the GW2 system instead… scripts are tossed out the window. You’re free to deal with the encounters as you see fit, and there are a myriad amount of ways to do so. I do what needs to be done, not what the script tells me I need to do next.

This right here, I’ve never been able to say it like this but this is exactly the issue
scripted content is boring and requires next to no skill at all, you’re more like a borg drone following directions. in GW2 no 2 encounters are the same or are fought in the same manner.

Also, roles in gw2 are working as intended.
the problem is puggers don’t really care to ask the fundamental questions after the party has been formed.

1 – who will take care of support?
2 – who will take care of control?
3 – who is going to dps?

these 3 questions solve a lot of issues, shortcomings and wipes.
if you do not ask you end up with 5 dps !

If all you wanted was to bring the bug to the attention of the dev’s there’s the ingame
/bug command that takes you directly to bug reporting, all this post does is make more people aware of it not exactly the brightest idea, than again YOU might be the one wanting attention.

16/16 exotics on all characters.

Yeah go ahead and ban this ikitten !
ToS breached LOL.

The game looks gorgeous on my high end pc already why would I risk a permaban to use crap from the ether LOL !

I so agree with this, in the current system you never know who is really talking unless you hover over their name and it’s maddening. I Would like there to be an option to allow me to choose to use account name only for all contacts and guild members.

A.net this is hampering the social aspect of your game, really ! you need to do something about it soon.

afoot.6932:

Based off of how he’s told his story on Reddit, it doesn’t sound like he did anything worth being banned over. Are we missing anything, ArenaNet?

Aside, if it is unclear whether an exploit is actually exploit, maybe it’d be a better idea to send players an in-game warning asking them to cease and desist instead of permanently banning them? I appreciate that you’re dedicated to fighting exploits, ArenaNet, but it’s more important to communicate and be transparent with your stakeholders.

Sure as if he’s gonna tell you he did it 1000 times of course to make his point valid he’ll say he did only less than a hundred times BS

A.net has the hard facts enough said !
also even if he did it 100 times if I was A.net I’d ban him as well !
doing it 10 times I can understand but by than you should’ve noticed the recipe is utterly broken and that if you continued to profit from it you’d get in trouble.

Think back to the karma exploit issue after all the drama was said and done on reddit the worst offenders were shown the numbers and the why they were banned essentially, most of these people take to reddit to discredit the game by talking lies out of their backsides, and most are naive enough to believe them.

I feel sorry for both the guy that posts on reddit and the readers that actually believe his *BS

Zeldain.5710:

Many agree with you, including myself. There absolutely needs to be large-scale group organized PvE content in the game. Otherwise it’s an amazing game-world and lore gone to waste.

i agree on the organized large scale part
but a big NO NO to traditional raiding !

Let’s wait and see a.net come up with their own twist on it

Sylv.5324:

Vasham.2408:

It’s a well known fact that GW2’s PVE is horrible.

I like most of the PvE, so this is news to me.

Horrible maybe to all the people unwilling or unable to grasp or understand just how much better it is to not have the trinity !

Some people still need some serious deprogramming I see !

The trinity may seem like a diverse system to some but it is a stale one trick pony disguised as a dynamic system !

I hate the trinity always have, never understood why you’d want your toon locked into one role only and that is all you can do properly try anything else and you will die horribly, how is that any better ? no it simply isn’t !

I love dungeons in this game you can tackle them in so many different ways depending on which classes you take with you the strategies change quite a lot

Not just oh you get in his face and soak all the damage so we can stand back here and kill it w/o ever being in danger, and healer keep the tank alive so don’t wipe and if the boss occasionally sneezes in our way just throw some heals on us ! that system sucks big time ! no idea how in the world it became the genre standard tbh :S

so to answer the OP

NO GW2 does NOT need this POS system in it !
go to your nearest hospital and demand a full brainwave deprogramming service to be performed on you, so you can finally understand why this is so much better

Yes, I will buy all expansions A.net comes up with for a very simple reason, despite all the little mistakes made here and there it IS by far the best mmorpg of the last 5 years !
I just hope they actually take the time to flash out all the personal stories and NOT make such a blunder again with an end game Boss ! That Boss fight just plain sucks no other way to say it.

There’s no need for channels specific for buying selling the trading post is your 1 stop shop, even if you don’t wish to pay the current asking price you can place a buy order for the price you are willing to pay.

Direct player trading NO THANK YOU use the trading post !
buy sell sub channels for chatting NO THANK YOU learn to use the buy order system thank you.

I didn’t say make them easier to acquire, but you gotta agree the current state of affairs is far from ideal !

The only gripe I have with the whole legendary issue is the state of the precursor acquisition and the selling of legendary weapons on the TP.

I understand completely about the rarity issue and that it needs to be difficult but… playing the trading post or pure RNG has nothing to do with what it should take to acquire a legendary weapon.

I’ve said this before I don’t care if it’s so difficult it takes 6 months to finish the scavenger hunt as long as I have a goal to work towards not just some RNG piece of kitten (yes I wrote kitten)

phlemhacker.1372:

What I meant was, EvE players thrive off scamming people out of their hard earned cash.

Sure because in spite of the beautiful system in place they still want bottom bargain prices and become prey for the wolves by making direct transactions.

in Guild Wars 2’s case the players just haven’t learned and apparently don’t want to learn !

phlemhacker.1372:

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up EVE.

Because it is the truth and this from someone that has barely touched eve but credit where credit is due, also the TP system was inspired by it so if I don’t mention it I will probably be flamed and called upon on it for not mentioning where the system came from LOL !

kRiza krimos.1637:

This thread again!
Vanity costs deal with it.

Only a player that has acquired his precursor already using exploits or any other dubious means would be happy with the current systems in place off course he’d feel threatened that their precursors for sale on the TP would lose their value !

I for one do want to see this change into some sort of personal scavenger hunt that you can only do solo !

and no selling precursors or legendaries on the TP !

I’m a big fan of this game but this situation is starting to disgust me quite a bit to the point I’m not playing as much anymore !

This from someone that has over 850+ hours in the game, and has seen 1 precursor in all his game time and even than it was from the karka fiasco event drop !

Don’t believe me about in-game time click my signature !

Frontier.2536:

All this could be avoided by simply implementing normal trade window between players (like in ANY MMORPG out there – it obviously isn’t rocket science) – but noooo we have to implement silly toys and holiday events first !

1 -he got scammed by a player attempting a direct transaction and your solution is to implement a direct player trading so he can be scammed legally LOL are you a mokitten !?

2 – the TP system is global so the price on the TP is what people are currently willing to pay for a certain item and it prevents scamming very nicely, it is partially the players fault for going outside the system in place to try and get a cheaper price as such making himself vulnerable to scamming, why not make a buy order for a lesser price instead, you would not get them right away but you would not get scammed either !

Like already said here before:

I do feel sorry for your loss but…….

it is indeed your fault for trying to circumvent the systems in place to get a cheaper price this will teach you to always use the Trading Post I guess lesson learned is also warranted here

Some ask for a direct player trading system as if that would make it all better LOLS
it would only legitimize scammers and gold sellers giving them all the power to overcharge or scam people out of money in the back alleys of Guild Wars 2

the Global Trading post system is the best option of any mmorpg out there in terms of economics that is not EVE online ! it may not be perfect but it has far less detrimental consequences for players than any flawed direct player trading ever implemented in any mmorpg outside of EVE online

JJBigs.8456:

Ok , so all classes get a signet with 25 percent speedboost cept

Mesmer and Guardian??

Warrior has perma swift, fury, might.

Guardian stability shouts last 5 secs and they are supposed to be the boon class.

Should I just make a warrior or will Anet ever balance the classes or will this just continue to be a Warrior, GS Centered Game? Let me know, so I can make the appropriate Main character class choice.

true that warriors have perma swift fury and might but….
I also have a guardian with perma protection vigor and retaliation so there is your balance.

The only difference is the guardian has to be in combat to get perma boons the warrior does not.

Also guardians do have access to perma swiftness if you build for extra boon duration. (staff)

projectcedric.6951:

Latinkuro.9420:

Who’s talking about fair
I’m talking about having consequences for when / if they screw up

That IS talking about fair.

On a different but slightly related note, have you ever noticed how in most mmorpgs, the thief/rogue/stealth classes are always the ones dominating in pvp? It seems like it is so easy for the general player base to quickly find a lame but comfortable and OP build around thief-associated skills.

I actually almost expected that GW2 would be different. Good thing I didn’t.

You got a point there, I was hoping GW2 would be different till they announced the thief class than I knew what would happen, still A.net is not like every other developer out there so I keep my hopes up wishing they will fix it.

I’m not saying it should be balanced or 100% fair in WvW after all it is all about not being perfectly balanced but…

There’s a huge difference between broken VS unbalanced

projectcedric.6951:

Anger should be towards the thieves.

After all, they are just doing what their role portrays accurately – using every unfair way they can exploit to their advantage. When did the word ‘thief’ ever equate to ‘fair’?

Similarly, the rest of the community will also not be blamed if we hate thieves.

Who’s talking about fair
I’m talking about having consequences for when / if they screw up

On a side note:
I made it my point in swtor to hunt and massacre stealth classes I build my character specifically to hunt them down and bash their face in. That option is currently not available here, but when it is thieves dying screams will be heard all the way to the eternal battlegrounds underground !

I will say this bluntly !

The resource system for thieves is a joke There’s absolutely no consequences to exhausting your supply of innitiative, just go into stealth and regenerate it at a constant accelerated rate, give me a break !

Swtor did this resource management system the right way as a trooper you had to manage your ammo carefully if you go in spamming and blow it all up it regenerated a lot slower the less ammo you had left.

This would be in line with A.net view of choices and compromises so it fits Guild Wars 2 perfectly

Examples

How it is now
hmmm I’m thief do I want to go in and kill this guy with my back stab/deathblossom spam ?
oh heck yes I do, even if he’s tanky and survives I can just pop stealth regenerate most of my innitiative and use my shortbow’s spammy infiltrator’s arrow to put a huge gap between us and run away.

How it would be if innitiative regen was slower the less you have
hmmm I’m thief do I want to go in and kill this guy with my back stab/deathblossom spam ?
oh heck yes I do, but wait if he is tanky and survives I would’ve blown all my innitiative and even if I go into stealth it will regenerate at a lower speed I wouldn’t be able to use my spammy infiltrator’s arrow to escape, dang, I better weigh my options properly or I might die, hmm I will go in and do 1 back stab see how much damage I do first than decide. see the difference

Swtor had a lot of issues but resource management was one of it’s strong points

A.net says they take the best ideas out of other games and try to implement them into their game well, guess what you missed a big one

^^ I agree with most of what you wrote except this:

stealth needs to break on damage

- Why, so that the person being jumped has a chance to counter other than the “let’s see if I get lucky and hit him with my blind targeted AOE”

- if you have no AOE or ground targeted abilities you’re pretty much dead to a stealth focused thief (forced target drop anyone)

The resource system for thieves is also a joke There’s absolutely no consequences to exhausting your supply of innitiative, just go into stealth and regenerate it at a constant accelerated rate, give me a break !

Swtor did this resource management system the right way as a trooper you had to manage your ammo carefully if you go in spamming and blow it all up it regenerated a lot slower the less ammo you had left.

This would be in line with A.net view of choices and compromises so it fits Guild Wars 2 perfectly

Examples:

How it is now
hmmm I’m thief do I want to go in and kill this guy with my back stab/deathblossom spam ?
oh heck yes I do, even if he’s tanky and survives I can just pop stealth regenerate all my innitiative and use my shortbow’s spammy infiltrator’s arrow to put a huge gap between us and run away

How it would be if innitiative regen was slower the less you have
hmmm I’m thief do I want to go in and kill this guy with my back stab/deathblossom spam ?
oh heck yes I do, but wait if he is tanky and survives I would’ve blown all my innitiative and even if I go into stealth it will regenerate at a lower speed :S I wouldn’t be able to use my spammy infiltrator’s arrow to escape, dang, I better weigh my options properly or I might die, hmm I will go in and do 1 back stab see how much damage I do first than decide. see the difference

Swtor had a lot of issues but resource management was one of it’s strong points.

A.net says they take the best ideas out of other games and try to implement them into their game well, guess what you missed a big one !

^^ Those comparisons have nothing to do with what is going on mate.
the root of the problem is both stealth and culling.

There’s a reason you almost never see complaints about stealth in sPVP, why ? cause there it works the way it’s meant to aside from some builds that take it to the extreme and need some minor tweaking.

Culling:
- self explanatory as to why it makes stealth classes OP !

Stealth
- stealth needs to break on damage that is the only change I would suggest, why cause what you can’t see can kill you and right now there’s no way to break their stealth, sure you can spam aoe and hope to hit him, but even in the best games out there that have stealth classes if I hit you you come out of stealth and while in combat you have maybe 1 or 2 emergency very long cooldown abilities that allow you to stealth again even while in combat.