Restorative Mantras + Healing Mantra + Full Dwayna Set is pretty good. Obviously along with some other traits/skills.
Enjoy it until ascended gear basically removes runes from PvE.
As a Mesmer I can say that they should add mounts since people seem to think it would be OP if Mesmers had the same access to swiftness as every other class.
Where did I say that mounts would need to go any faster than walking pace ? I just asked for mounts – not that they added extra traveling speed.
Then what is the point?
As a Mesmer I can say that they should add mounts since people seem to think it would be OP if Mesmers had the same access to swiftness as every other class.
Considering the amount of people who use the excuse ‘Charrs were just taking back their homeland so the searing wasn’t evil’ I hope that we can join a Dragon’s side and help them just take back their homelands.
I think it is part of the auto loot option.
since beta I knew mesmers would be constantly nerfed (the concept is very difficult to balance we have to agree with it), it is up to ANet to decide where the fine line between fun and disgrace is before ruining it completely. Three or four patches like the last one and this class will be worst than necro ever been.
Its funny during the betas I spent ages on GW guru looking up opinions and builds to decide whether to have Mesmer or Necro as my main.
While I eventually chose Mesmer based on how fun the mechanics looked while Necro seemed rather basic, the general opinion was that Mesmer was very underpowered and rushed. People were testing out clones and Phantasms with every new build and concluded that they obviously couldn’t be used to trick people into thinking they were the actual Mesmer for long and shatters weren’t effective because the clones were dieing or people were avoiding them by walking away. There was an infamous video of a staff Guardian only using auto attack and being completely immune from shatters. Then combine that with almost all Grandmaster traits being worse then the minors and all the bugged traits. Most of us stuck with it because the class seeemed fun and we figured we would get buffed after release.
If only we knew the general skill level would go way down after beta and people would stop moving and cleaving through clones, I could have saved myself a lot of time and focused more on making a better decision of whether to have a Thief or Ranger as my alt.
I find it funny that in a thread titled ‘Bad players get Good players Nerfed’ the first post mentions Mesmers.
Remember backstabbing and abusing render problems for perma stealth makes a good player. Killing phantasms is too hard though, even if PvE mobs can do it, lets just keep crying till phantasms get nerfed so hard that Mesmers lose all their support and control specs and can only go minion bombing. Oh its already happened.
That would make rapid fire a lot worse. One of its main advantages it the ability to proc things multiple times.
What they need to do to fix LB is increase the auto attack speed. Remove the damage being reduced by closeness or increase the damage at every stage (if they insist on keeping that mechanic then it needs to reward staying at range instead of punishing being close considering almost everything about this game is designed to allow you to keep in your enemies face) and then buff rapid fire damage because at the moment it only just beats out auto attacking at max range over the same time period.
I would love WoC to do weakness instead of vuln. We should have a trait to do that.
Well this thread gave me a good laugh.
Personally I will file this under reasons Jennah should be replaced by Mad King Thorn as ruler of Kryta.
Is there any plans to have Ranger pets scale with gear or even just buff up there stats? The current pet stats seem to be balanced around exotic level gear but as more pieces of ascended gear are added pets will fall further behind the new power level. Rangers will get much less benefit from the gear and will be even weaker in comparison. They can’t increase their damage as much as other classes and Pets will die even faster in W3 and dungeons as their toughness/health won’t increase to match the new damage levels.
So what with recompense for people who couldn’t make it to this one time event but would like a free 20 slot item box and some precursors?
While I don’t think anyone should be compensated because they weren’t able to participate in a one time only event, I DO think the value of the rewards given were way out of line relative to the effort put forth. If the rewards were a couple of rares and such there probably wouldn’t be as big of an issue. This was a lottery with huge prizes, but many people couldn’t even buy a ticket.
Pretty much spot on.
I don’t like the idea of one time events but I can deal with it especially with the buggy mess this sounds like it was (and the first 2 in LA were).
But given out rewards worth anywhere between 20 to 300 gold was really stupid for something that not everybody can do.
I don’t know where the idea that forum goers aren’t a good sample of the player base came from but if this forum isn’t good enough for you how about the fact that every major GW2 community forum is against it? How come every time I brought it up in game people were against it? How come entire guilds of people have left because of it?
Infact I’d say the people who are happily playing the game instead of talking about it are only happy because they don’t really care about end game they just want to complete the story, smash a few zombie faces in and the move on to the next big game.
The actually number of people who do like it are clearly in the minority.
So what with recompense for people who couldn’t make it to this one time event but would like a free 20 slot item box and some precursors?
The changes have unbalanced the game though, all the zones and dungeons are now ghost towns as everybody is piling into fotm to do the massive grind for top gear stuff. Before the update this wasn’t the case on my server.
Fortunately there are still some people doing WvWvW but everywhere else is dead.
I wanted them to add new story content, new events with fun things to do and new places to explore. I didn’t want them to change the game into a place where time spent grinding is worth more then your skill playing a game. Or where getting an item and adding a few stats onto it is considered new content. If you wanted to grind for your +1 gear to fight the +1 enemy and think that is progression then I am not sure why you bought GW2 in the first place when almost every other game caters to that.
In fact as I put in an other post
I got all my crafting professions up to 400 to get my exotic armour and I was told that would be it. I have geared up, I have made my builds, now I want to go out and fight Dragons with them, I want to lead the Norn back into their homelands, I want to see the Largos home city, I want to go to Elona and kill Palawa Joko, I want to go to Cantha and free it from the corrupt Emperor/Dragon/whatever has happened there, I want to go back into the Underworld and kicks Dhuums kitten again.
I don’t want to constantly have to be grinding new gear every update so I can actually take part in the new content. I already have a job, I don’t need a game to replace it.
Any plans to move FotM out of LA? It is making starting conversations in there almost impossible.
Also please ask about runes/sigils/crests in ascended armour.
Any plans to have some sort of open group option in WvWvW where you can open your party and random people entering WvWvW can open a window and just join one that has been opened? Maybe only let commanders do it? Will help clear up map chat for tactics and encourage team work for people new to WvWvW.
Will anything be done about making the crafting professions worth while again after the introduction of ascended gear?
Will ascended armour still be able to slot runes in it? A lot of interesting PvE builds rely on ruins and they will be killed if ascended armour pieces have the same ‘inbuilt upgrades’ as the accessories. Due to the higher stats of ascended people will just go to the builds that work without runes especially in dungeons where they are needed.
Similarly if ascended armour doesn’t allow upgrades what will be done about runes/crests/orbs as for the most part they will be useless?
I started playing less once the patch hit for several reasons.
-Once I found out they were handing out precursors and 20 slot item boxes to people who could get to the final event I felt pretty annoyed.
-With a new tier of item coming out it felt pointless to carry on with my efforts to get exotics on my main.
-All the zones and dungeons are empty as everybody flocks to jump on the fractals gear treadmill powered by RNG. First time I have ever seen the straits empty, even early in the morning there are normally a few people trying to get a Balthazar attempt going on my server or at the very least on of the invasion paths but now there is no point since you can get the shards for much less effort in the dungeon without having to deal with weak npc babysitting in a buggy event.
-Couldn’t start doing fractals straight away so now its impossible to find a group since I am still at level 1.
-Latest patch has pretty much killed Mesmer Greatsword which was my favorite weapon in the game.
-My other level 80 Ranger is still sub par and the changes did nothing for the class.
-Leveling alts to change the combat up every so often just leaves me with a feeling that I am getting further behind on the treadmill.
-Dislike the new zone a lot. Nothing to do, not enough way points and all the new monsters are tedious/annoying to fight. Much worse then the Risen in my opinion.
The problem with just a stat increase is that Pets share stats across PvE and PVP. Of course it would probably be possible to give them separate stats in the two.
I think the sad truth we are looking at here is that it will just be an even bigger uphill battle to get Rangers on par in dungeons/W3 and an even longer wait.
Pets do have “agony resistance” listed in their stats though. Will be very curious if that means our agony resistance applies to them.
I have 15 agony resistance, pet’s agony resistance still says 0.
lol I figured as much.
I have a level 80 Mesmer and Ranger and I like to do a mixture of DEs/exploring in high level areas, Dungeons and WvWvW.
The only reason I haven’t deleted my Ranger is because I don’t need the slot for anything and I don’t feel like leveling up cooking again. That is pretty much all I can say.
I hate to say it, but after the laissez-faire way they handled the shortbow nerf, I wouldnt be surprised if they consider pet bug fixes to be compensation for scaling.
Well spamming F2 isn’t the most fun gameplay.
First lets not let the thread get off topic about whether ascended gear was a good idea in the first place or not as we all know it wasn’t.
Now to the actual topic, as we all know pets don’t get scale with stats. Unlike most other MMOs this wasn’t actually a problem (minus possibly crit damage bonuses and pretty much anything to do with conditions being a problem) because there was a definitive top level to gear that wasn’t supposed to be improved upon and Ranger pet stats were balanced around those stats (all pet problems are down to AI, the inability to dodge in a game where nothing is supposed to just sit there an tank damage, some bugs and the decision on whether an ai controlled partner should be so incharge of such a large portion of our damage).
Now ascended gear has come in but pets will still have the same stats. This means that Rangers will get much less benefit from the gear and will be even weaker in comparison. They can’t increase their damage as much as other classes and Pets will die even faster in PvP/W3 as their toughness/health won’t increase to match the new damage levels.
Not to mention do we even know if they get benefits from agony resistance yet? Anybody tested that?
Man I wish guesting was already in. :-(
Oh well try and half fun without me!
As I’m totally uninvolved: you’re both a bit off. Pyrial is really not talking about the LoD fix. Just go back to the original comment:
So an ability that was benefiting from an unintentional bug, which has been fixed, is now going to have its damage adjusted back up?
The bugfix eventually reduced the main dps source of a gs mesmer to less than 50%, which was unintended as Karl already pointed out. Or there is another bug in place. Anyway, that reduction has a heavy impact on gameplay and we’re simply a bit sensitive as people troll in with no understanding of our class and want to justify that unintended nerf, probably because they can’t compete in PvP (because of their lack of understanding).
This is where the dispute comes in. If the bug fix reduced the damage output, than that means the ability was unintentionally benefiting from the bug. If there was another bug introduced as a result of the bug fix, that is something completely different.
Just to clarify, I also play a mesmer (GS-shatter) in pvp. I’ve played every profession in spvp through r36 pretty equally. I try to be as unbiased as I can when discussing mechanics, being that I play and enjoy all professions.
I think what you will find has happened is that since they didn’t know about this bug at first when they made the Phantasmal Berserker they were basing its damage on the fact they thought it wasn’t bugged especially as Berserker is the only skill that can benefit from this bug by only hitting one target. So they saw the damage it was doing and thought, yeah that seems fine. But then when they fixed the bug, berserker damage went down and now is less then what they though berserker should do.
Because really if you look at it on some swings of the berserker I am getting about half of the damage then from my auto attacks and as the class with some of the weakest auto attacks in the game (probably only Ranger is less) that just isn’t right for our main aoe.
At least that is if it is the multi hit bug fix that caused, it still feels to me that the berserker is just missing some attacks. Which must have been an unintentional bug from the los breaking.
Either way they said it is doing too little damage and I hope it gets fixed sooner rather then later as it has killed my favorite weapon in the game.
(edited by Levetty.1279)
We should have expected it really. People thought the idea of learning to kill our Phantasms was obscene in PvP so instead of getting better they just complained. If they don’t want to bother killing our illusions why should they have to dodge or mitigate them either? Too hard, they just want to smash things with their sword or do 20k+ damage while perma stealthed, the don’t want to think.
I can’t wait for the eventual patch in a year or so that make Rangers worth while and let their pets hit on the move. Then the people complaining about Mesmers can start complaining again and next patch will probably cause Ranger pets to despawn whenever Rangers are blind.
I don find it funny that one of the few classes with multiple viable builds has been slowly pushed towards shatter with every patch.
People said that they wanted something to go for between legendary and exotics, and you have it.
People don’t require that you have a legendary to participate and I imagine all content outside of this dungeon will not require ascended gear.
In addition, they did NOT change the highest tiered gear in the game. The top stats still belong to legendary gear.
Mountain, meet molehill.
Only because they will be buffing legendary stats to match Ascended. At the moment they are the same as exotic, that is why people don’t ask for legendaries.
If people don’t think that dungeon groups and maybe even guilds will start demanding for ascended geared players or that this won’t give people an advantage in WvWvW then you are fooling yourself.
Although I can not stand the rabid fans who twisted and hyped every thing to a unreal level all the while bash other games and people who didn’t agree, I feel sorry for them. They were lied to.
They put there neck out there everyday defending things like the lack if progression and the Halloween event, only to have the rug pulled out from under them.
I for one support the change, but I’m not blind to the pain and embarrassment hardened supporters are feeling.
I hope you guys pull through. We might not always agree, but we are the community, not the devs, publisher, or shareholders. I support you guys.
BC
If you wanted gear progression why did you buy GW2? There are a million other MMOS you could have played, why did you ruin this one for us?
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
There are 2 pieces coming out a ring and a back , and they are only useful in the new dungeon that will probably give exos for the higher rewards so its really no big deal.
Please read the blog post.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
They will have higher stats then Exotics, eventually you will be able to wear full Ascended.
This will kill the exotic market and probably take the high tier crafting material with it.
They have higher stats because you can not add runes or gems to them , without this they would be worse than exotics.
No, please read the blog post like I asked you too. It specifically states that Ascended has higher stats.
If you look at the picture and add the numbers of the exotic together with the gem slotted into it it still has lower stats then the Ascended one shown.
Infusion might make that stat difference even more but even if it doesn’t then Ascended is still better and nobody will want exotics anymore.
The bonus I get for the runes I use is not worth losing to get a small increase in stats.
All those runes you can slot into your accessories and backpack? I’m sorry have you used some kind of exploit there?
Also the exotic market isn’t tied to you, its tied to supply and demand. The demand for exotics is going to drop right off once people can get these higher stats. Most people already use ruby orbs and similar if they are going full glass cannon, these ascended items have them built in from the get go.
You do know that there will be full sets of armor eventually
Yes that is what the thread is about. The new armour will kill the exotic armour market. Do you read anything?
I am very excited for this. I think it is a step in the right direction. No matter how pretty the game is or how cool some of the armor looks, there will always be some form of progression in an mmo. It is the nature of the beast. I think they are taking great strides in trying to make this game appeal to a wide range of tastes as to make the game have a better player retention rate. More people playing is a good thing.
I look at it like this.
1. If you like open world pve…you’ve got it.
2. If you like regular dungeon running…you’ve got it.
3. If you like spvp… you’ve got it.
4. If you like wvw…you’ve got it.
5. And now, if your into getting new things for more power, you’ve got that too.
None of it is required, yet all paths are available for every play style.
In the end in almost every mmo, the acquisition of new stuff is the driving force behind it all. If some people need a carrot on a stick to keep them going, so be it. Eventually, (I’m crossing my fingers here) They may introduce raids!!! GASP!!! Oh the horror! People just need to relax and see where this new stuff takes us. I seriously doubt it’ll be as bad as people think. Besides, even if it did become a wow clone in the future, I’d rather play this than have to pay a monthly sub to do the same thing. People just need to chill out.Seriously why did you buy GW2 in the first place? Aren’t the millions of other MMOs enough for you? Why does GW2 have to be exactly the same?
The same question can be said for those who believes endgame gear progression is bad thing and believe Gw2 should not include it. Why should GW2 be exactly like GW1?
Now I’m not saying needing to get a certain stat to be able to do dungeon isn’t ridiculous – that’s completely dumb.But if its just a better tier of gear with non of the infusion stuff I’m all for it. Guild Wars 2 is not meant to be guild war 1 as it is nothing like guild wars 1 from the get go. If I want a game where I’m only ever gonna grind for skin I’ll go play GW1.
Excatly! If people thought that Guild Wars 2 was going to stay the same as Guild Wars 1 then they are in for many more surprises!
Also compared to other MMO’s Guild Wars 2 has many things they don’t have.
Example:Combat is different
Graphics are different
Questing is different
Dynamic Events is different
Personal Story line is different than most MMO’s (minus SWTOR).
WvWvW is different
Quickbars are different
Being in multiple guilds is different
Dungeons are slightly different
Crafting is slightly differentIts a BUY2PLAY game (which was a huge bonus for me)
Those are just some of the reasons why I bought Guild Wars 2.
You could say if you don’t like the gear progression can just go back and play Guild Wars 1! Be thankful it’s still up and running!
People who did not like SWTOR and wanted to go back to SWG didn’t have that choice!
So in short, GW2 is now just another WoW clone and if you don’t like go play a 7 year old game.
Well enjoy the mess they are creating with this while it lasts. The people who like it will eventually just all head back to WoW just like they have done with every other WoW clone and you will end up with just half a server left.
I know I am! And so are my friends who have gotten very board with Guild Wars 2 over the past few weeks!
For us our endgame has turned into nothing but Farming Orr for our legendary’s but now we have something new to work forward to AND a new area/dungeon to explore!
I have seen a lot of the knee jerk reactions posts of how much people can’t stand change so this thread is for people who are truly happy with the upcoming content and changes!
Thank You ArenaNet!!
So what do you do after you get the Ascended gear? Most hardcore players would have done it in a few weeks time (or even days) like they did to legendaries. Perhaps it takes 1-2 months for regular players. What’s next? Get bored again, quit the game, and wait for the next gear? Rinse and repeat.
The added dungeon is nice but Anet is so desperate to maintain the longevity of the game, they have to incorporate gear treadmill into it. This is a lazy attempt by the developers where they are incapable to add contents with high re-playability value …. you know the actual contents that are engaging, interesting and challenging where people would do it without being swayed with rewards at the end. Think of why people play FPS, RTS, etc over and over again with the same maps yet they play these games for years.
If they plan on release content they way they have been, that will keep me busy just fine. After lost islands is another December event. Then after that I am sure another content patch, ect ect.
Also I don’t have to pay a sub fee so I can play something else for a few weeks then come back!
Well if that is the case then why do you need higher stats dangled in front of you in the first place?
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
There are 2 pieces coming out a ring and a back , and they are only useful in the new dungeon that will probably give exos for the higher rewards so its really no big deal.
Please read the blog post.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
They will have higher stats then Exotics, eventually you will be able to wear full Ascended.
This will kill the exotic market and probably take the high tier crafting material with it.
They have higher stats because you can not add runes or gems to them , without this they would be worse than exotics.
No, please read the blog post like I asked you too. It specifically states that Ascended has higher stats.
If you look at the picture and add the numbers of the exotic together with the gem slotted into it it still has lower stats then the Ascended one shown.
Infusion might make that stat difference even more but even if it doesn’t then Ascended is still better and nobody will want exotics anymore.
The bonus I get for the runes I use is not worth losing to get a small increase in stats.
All those runes you can slot into your accessories and backpack? I’m sorry have you used some kind of exploit there?
Also the exotic market isn’t tied to you, its tied to supply and demand. The demand for exotics is going to drop right off once people can get these higher stats. Most people already use ruby orbs and similar if they are going full glass cannon, these ascended items have them built in from the get go.
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
There are 2 pieces coming out a ring and a back , and they are only useful in the new dungeon that will probably give exos for the higher rewards so its really no big deal.
Please read the blog post.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
They will have higher stats then Exotics, eventually you will be able to wear full Ascended.
This will kill the exotic market and probably take the high tier crafting material with it.
They have higher stats because you can not add runes or gems to them , without this they would be worse than exotics.
See now I was going to get a bit ragey and mention that the ascended ring you see in the blog post clearly has 15 more stat points than the exotic jewled ring next to it, but you raise a tremendously interesting point. If the infusion slot replaces the upgrade slot, that may mean the eventual Ascended armor (and maybe weapons) that come out may not have rune (or sigil) slots. If that’s the case, its very possible the stat increase evens out or even loses out in a 1:1 comparison with an exotic armor (or weapon) set with full superior runes (or sigils), except for having the infusion slot.
Ok… going back to revise my posts. thank you for pointing this out, it may be that this is not the problem I felt it was, though that’s obviously based on assumptions.
If you are putting Orbs into these items then you wouldn’t be putting runes into them anyway.
I am very excited for this. I think it is a step in the right direction. No matter how pretty the game is or how cool some of the armor looks, there will always be some form of progression in an mmo. It is the nature of the beast. I think they are taking great strides in trying to make this game appeal to a wide range of tastes as to make the game have a better player retention rate. More people playing is a good thing.
I look at it like this.
1. If you like open world pve…you’ve got it.
2. If you like regular dungeon running…you’ve got it.
3. If you like spvp… you’ve got it.
4. If you like wvw…you’ve got it.
5. And now, if your into getting new things for more power, you’ve got that too.
None of it is required, yet all paths are available for every play style.
In the end in almost every mmo, the acquisition of new stuff is the driving force behind it all. If some people need a carrot on a stick to keep them going, so be it. Eventually, (I’m crossing my fingers here) They may introduce raids!!! GASP!!! Oh the horror! People just need to relax and see where this new stuff takes us. I seriously doubt it’ll be as bad as people think. Besides, even if it did become a wow clone in the future, I’d rather play this than have to pay a monthly sub to do the same thing. People just need to chill out.Seriously why did you buy GW2 in the first place? Aren’t the millions of other MMOs enough for you? Why does GW2 have to be exactly the same?
The same question can be said for those who believes endgame gear progression is bad thing and believe Gw2 should not include it. Why should GW2 be exactly like GW1?
Now I’m not saying needing to get a certain stat to be able to do dungeon isn’t ridiculous – that’s completely dumb.But if its just a better tier of gear with non of the infusion stuff I’m all for it. Guild Wars 2 is not meant to be guild war 1 as it is nothing like guild wars 1 from the get go. If I want a game where I’m only ever gonna grind for skin I’ll go play GW1.
So Guild Wars 2 shouldn’t be like Guild Wars 1?
So you want this game to be just like every other MMO instead of being the only open world non instanced game with no treadmills. Just like we were promised it would be?
I don’t play GW1 for the horizontal progression because it is old now, as far as I am concerned the mechanics and engine are starting to show their age. I may go back to play it every so often but I much prefer the more fluid combat/open world of GW2. But apparently if I want to do that I have to jump on another treadmill and start the grind because a bunch of idiots forgot their WoW passwords and thought the best reaction to that would be to buy GW2 and complain it isn’t exactly the same.
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
There are 2 pieces coming out a ring and a back , and they are only useful in the new dungeon that will probably give exos for the higher rewards so its really no big deal.
Please read the blog post.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
They will have higher stats then Exotics, eventually you will be able to wear full Ascended.
This will kill the exotic market and probably take the high tier crafting material with it.
They have higher stats because you can not add runes or gems to them , without this they would be worse than exotics.
No, please read the blog post like I asked you too. It specifically states that Ascended has higher stats.
If you look at the picture and add the numbers of the exotic together with the gem slotted into it it still has lower stats then the Ascended one shown.
Infusion might make that stat difference even more but even if it doesn’t then Ascended is still better and nobody will want exotics anymore.
I am very excited for this. I think it is a step in the right direction. No matter how pretty the game is or how cool some of the armor looks, there will always be some form of progression in an mmo. It is the nature of the beast. I think they are taking great strides in trying to make this game appeal to a wide range of tastes as to make the game have a better player retention rate. More people playing is a good thing.
I look at it like this.
1. If you like open world pve…you’ve got it.
2. If you like regular dungeon running…you’ve got it.
3. If you like spvp… you’ve got it.
4. If you like wvw…you’ve got it.
5. And now, if your into getting new things for more power, you’ve got that too.
None of it is required, yet all paths are available for every play style.
In the end in almost every mmo, the acquisition of new stuff is the driving force behind it all. If some people need a carrot on a stick to keep them going, so be it. Eventually, (I’m crossing my fingers here) They may introduce raids!!! GASP!!! Oh the horror! People just need to relax and see where this new stuff takes us. I seriously doubt it’ll be as bad as people think. Besides, even if it did become a wow clone in the future, I’d rather play this than have to pay a monthly sub to do the same thing. People just need to chill out.
Seriously why did you buy GW2 in the first place? Aren’t the millions of other MMOs enough for you? Why does GW2 have to be exactly the same?
I know I am asking this a lot but nobody is answering me. Why did the people who are happy about this buy GW2 in the first place? They said there was going to be no treadmill yet you still came and whined enough to get it changed. Was every other MMO doing it not enough for you? You had to ruin ours?
Well looks like I am done with this game.
Good luck to those that stay, hopefully the patch buffs Ranger enough that they can actually start being useful in dungeons and you don’t all immediately fall behind on the new gear treadmill. But as they don’t seem to be listening to the players about this awful new ascended gear I doubt they are listening to the sub set that plays rangers either.
Good luck fellow Rangers.
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
There are 2 pieces coming out a ring and a back , and they are only useful in the new dungeon that will probably give exos for the higher rewards so its really no big deal.
Please read the blog post.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/
They will have higher stats then Exotics, eventually you will be able to wear full Ascended.
This will kill the exotic market and probably take the high tier crafting material with it.
The blog specifically states that a treadmill is being added. We don’t want a treadmill, we don’t want the price of exotics to collapse, we don’t want all that dungeon grinding, to have been pointless, we don’t want all the time and money we spent maxing crafting to have gone to waste and we don’t want all the Karma and WvWvW tokens we spent to have gone to waste but most of all we don’t want a kittening gear treadmill.
Please listen to us and scrap this before it is too late.
Actually, by reading that quote in OP, it sounds like this new gear will be exclusively for this new dungeon. May be wishful thinking though.
And quit raging people. Just wait for the 15th, and speak up then if bad things come to be.
it is.
no one has realized this yet, apparently:
ascended gear can’t be slotted with runes or sigils.
are you going to give up rune benefits for an extra couple stat points? i won’t.
This exactly. Look at the stats given by the new Ascended gear in the image below. At first glance this appears to be a considerable upgrade from Exotic gear, but once you factor in that the slot on the Ascended gear cannot have Jewels, Runes or Sigils on it it is actually only a difference of 5 points in Power and Precision (less than 1% crit chance different) from Exotic gear assuming the infusion slot does not carry stats with it. From the sound of the blog post the infusion slot is to deal specifically with Agony, or monsters that cause Agony, which implies that they won’t carry excessive stats. If this is the case the stat upgrade is extremely minor, and when compared to what you are losing in customization it may well not be worth it to upgrade for WvW.
Additionally, it’s been confirmed that this new tier of items can be crafted in the mystic forge, which is present in WvW. If you really want the stat upgrade you can upgrade using the mystic forges located in SMC and the Garrison in each of the borderlands. .
Actually only the backpacks can be. You have to do the new dungeon to get the rings.
Remember that one that started collapsing because of that easily farmed event in the Mad Kings Zone? The even that resulted in an emergency fix where they nerfed the chest to the point it was no longer worth doing the event?
Wonder how everybody is going to feel when they can’t sell their exotics because of all the new ascended armour coming in over the next few content updates. To forget peoples reaction to it that easily you would think it hadn’t happened only last month.
Didn’t Guild Wars 1 have a gate stat that prevented players from advancing into the final parts of Prophecies.
Yes. Yes, they did. And it was fine.
No they had one mechanic that made it so you had to complete one of the missions before you did the later ones. Any gear could be infused, even your started gear. You didn’t need to grind out a dungeon to get the absolute best gear, after already grinding to get the old absolute best gear thinking that was the best gear, and then get that infused.
Agreed, people are way in over their heads. Like always, whiny brats. It’s sad, it really is.
In order to be heard, you have to make a noise.
So long as you know what you’re really shouting about ^^
So long as you know what you’re really shouting about ^^
And we’ll “exactly” know that in 2 days, so people whining in advance is quite ridiculous. :p
We know now, the blog post has specifically told us what is being added and how to get it.
No point waiting for 2 days to complain after everybody has already got it. The best we can hope for is that the devs grow a brain within the next two days and scrap the whole thing.
We are angry because going forward it is 99% likely that new dungeons will have this stupid agony mechanic and will and thus we will need ascended gear. What if I want to take a break for a month or two and while I am gone everybody does the grind for the dungeon that gives you the ascended chest piece and by the time I come back they have all gone to the next dungeon? I am not behind in gear progression and might not ever catch up, especially if I want to take another break.
Why did the people who are happy for this buy GW2 in the first place? They said themselves it was supposed to have no gear treadmill, what didn’t you understand about that?
Instead you all come in and buy it and then complain that it isn’t exactly like every other MMO and start ruining it for the rest of us who did know what we were buying. There are enough MMOs out there now, why did you have to ruin this one for us?
Absolutely disgusted by this. I bought the game because I was fed up of gear treadmills and after 7 years of GW1 not having one and the developers saying they wouldn’t put in one you would think there wouldn’t be one.
But nope, they didn’t have the balls to stick through with it for longer then 3 months and are having to go the WoW clone way. I don’t know why so many developers decide to do WoW clones when every single one has failed.
Absolutely disgusted by this. What about all the Karma I spent on exotics? What about all the time and money spent maxing crafting disciplines to get other exotics? Worthless now as we have to go into dungeons to get ever increasing stats. I’d care more but it looks like I am stopping playing with the next patch.
GW1 for 7 years, can’t even get GW2 to 7 months.
I just got several crafts to level 400. Now I can’t sue them to make the best equipment? Why did I waste all that time and money doing it then?
Whats the point? Rangers will still probably be extremely sub par in dungeons and thus after the patch won’t be able to get the top tier of armour anymore.
Ridiculous.