If you’re complaining about the vulnerability stacks that maul provides as a power ranger you clearly don’t know what vulnerability does to someone who has it on them.
3 vuln being three percent more damage… but in dungeons (the only place this really matters) sword+axe/wh(depending on whether you need reflects) is better anyway
Someone may need to explain to me why Maul being a blast finisher would be overpowered. Compare it to the Guardian Hammer #2. Same 5 second cooldown with better damage on a full 360 AOE and short gap-closer.
If you would say Maul has too much synergy with Healing Spring, I would answer Mighty Blow has just as much synergy with the light-field created on the third strike of Guardian Hammer’s auto chain.
Why the disparity? Both are defensive AOE weapons. Ranger Greatsword evades on auto, Guardian hammer does aoe protection on auto. Ranger Greatsword blocks, Guardian Hammer does a circle wall. Ranger Greatsword interrupts, Gaurdian Hammer Banishes. Why then is a 5 second blast finisher fine for one and not the other I wonder?
All a light combo field does, is add retaliation. Other then that, the Guardian has two fire fields with long recharge times.
The Ranger has a water field with Healing Spring, that lasts 15 seconds. A fire field every 15 second with Fire Trap, and every 25 second with Bonfire. An ice field with Ice Trap every 30 second. And poison fields with various pets every 30 seconds. Basically, the Ranger has way too many useful combo fields to have a blast finisher with only a 6 second recharge time. And all of this isn’t even considering traits that reduce recharge times.
The point of combo skills is to make players work together with each other.
kitten … thats basically exactly what i wrote in the other thread but you went into more detail xD
… but i dont think the point of combos are meant to make people work together specifically… sure working together amplifies their usefulness (i love rangers who put healing spring under my hammer guardian… so so so much) but classes like ele and engi show that they are also designed to be taken advantage of in solo play
Honestly, the Ranger as it stands brings nothing to the table and that is my concern.
Healing Spring is a situational healing; you use it to heal yourself, you could screw the group, but if u use it to heal your group you might screw yourself. Compare to the 2 Elementalists staff water fields HS is just an OK and not reliable in groups.
it brings frost spirit and spotter… but spirits still suffer from instadeath aoes
(granted i very very very rarely dungeon on my ranger – my main in dungeons is guard, just because it makes pug runs so much easier – but…) imo its best to save healing spring for condition cleanses, when you absolutely MUST heal (chances are; other people could use the top up too) or to give group vigor without wasting the heal (if you’re paying enough attention to team dodges and have vigor on heal trait… or have a necro in the party… then they’ll be your best friend forever and ever)
… also bear… bare?… in mind that staff is the laziest elementalist weapon… good eles will be (mostly) using dagger or scepter
they dont seem to have very experienced UI designers
… another thing that annoys me is trying to see the white outline of buffs (the outline that indicates the % duration left) whilst against a snowy backdrop
It’s 13k potential healing in that 15 second window, if you dedicate all your GS finishers to swooping into walls and junk.
If it was Spring+Maul bam full health, yea I’d agree with you, that’s nerf bait no doubt. It’s clearly not that though.
its a potential solo 13k heal, couple that with counter block from GS and evades (vigor on heal trait procs on each pulse of healing spring) you also easily have the ability to mitigate a ton damage until you are prepared to super heal again
same as healing turret being a potential 7.6k heal (but its base heal is only 2.5k)
i love my GS in wvw, swoop and counterattack are amazing, the auto attack is much better at zerg clashing than swords and hilt bash interrupts are still amazingly useful without traiting for moment of clarity
… though it could use some love (counterattack root on hit in melee range… ARGH) i do think its an extremely useful weapon
I would not cry if they made it a blast finisher though.
i would be strongly strongly against this
swoop/leap every 10s
maul/blast every 4/5s(?)
15s duration healing spring
2 leaps,2/3 blasts = 1,320*4/5 = 5280/6600 healing
… thats on top of healing springs base 4920 heal, 2.3k regen and condition cleanses
I don’t see the problem.
It’s not like we are getting a 6k heal in one big chunk.
It’s 6k potential healing over 15 secs while putting every GS cooldown into that healing instead of using them for movement/damage and restricting yourself to that water field area.
You also still have the same healing ‘downtime’, when your field is on CD.
Like, how many times do you get 2 swoops per spring in actual fights vs. how many times you need it for positioning or gap closing?
Yea, it would be really nice to have the blast finisher, but it’s still not “We got a Blaster finisher, HealingSpring does DOUBLE HEALING WOO!”
put it against a wall> drop target>swoop
maul>swoop also still leaves 3(ish)s to get back into the healing spring
this kind of change would end up like the terror nerf if not considered carefully
(in case any of you dont play necro… terror wasnt changed at all, but the addition of dhuumfire, spectral wall fears and a 0.5s increase on doom ended up getting it nerfed… which if you go to the necro forum most people are annoyed about) 13k heal could easily pull a ranger up to full from near dead, the strongest heal in game atm is either
healing surge at nearly 9k… IF at full adrenaline (wasting its other property of insta adrenaline) with a 1s cast time… and then you compare it to warriors health pool, which is… whats high health base? is it 12k-15k-18k? icr but its 50% health at best
or
healing turret
2.5k heal on place
2.5k heal on overcharge (and 2 condi cleanses)
1.3k on detonation(if done in overcharge field)
1.3k from shield or rifle finisher (yes i know utility finishers… but utilising only one weapon and a heal skill)
5k+2.6k=7.6k… is engi medium health? is that 15k? if it is then again thats only 50%
or
signet of… whatever guardians signet heal is
8.1k heal out of a (base)12k health pool… which i suppose is a high %, but its also a 40s cooldown and 1s cast (what guardian runs this anyway? even in pve i much prefer the block heal)
i forget why i was comparing heals… hmmm… nope gone
I am for Anet to give a Blast Finisher on Maul and if that means nerfing Healing Spring and/or increasing the CD on Maul, I am for that because we desperately need a team oriented skill on the GS and a Blast Finisher on Maul is just perfect for that.
yeh(!)… lets nerf something (healing spring) because we buffed something else, brilliant idea(!)
as i stated in the other thread
swoop/leap every 10s
maul/blast every 4/5s(?)
15s duration healing spring
2 leaps,2/3 blasts = 1,320*4/5 = 5280/6600 healing
… thats on top of healing springs base 4920 heal, 2.3k regen and condition cleanses
would be ridiculously OP
nerfing healing spring as a result would kitten off a lot of rangers, me included
for a blast finisher to be even remotely balanced maul would have to get a massive CD increase… which would then drag down greatsword DPS as a whole… and oh look…
Or you could have an increased cooldown, with an appropriate increase in damage/vulnerability to keep its overall dps the same.
except the cooldown i would suggest would be 25s+ which is multiplying damage by 4/5… which would probably put it in one shot territory…
I am for Anet to give a Blast Finisher on Maul and if that means nerfing Healing Spring and/or increasing the CD on Maul, I am for that because we desperately need a team oriented skill on the GS and a Blast Finisher on Maul is just perfect for that.
yeh(!)… lets nerf something (healing spring) because we buffed something else, brilliant idea(!)
as i stated in the other thread
swoop/leap every 10s
maul/blast every 4/5s(?)
15s duration healing spring
2 leaps,2/3 blasts = 1,320*4/5 = 5280/6600 healing
… thats on top of healing springs base 4920 heal, 2.3k regen and condition cleanses
would be ridiculously OP
nerfing healing spring as a result would kitten off a lot of rangers, me included
for a blast finisher to be even remotely balanced maul would have to get a massive CD increase… which would then drag down greatsword DPS as a whole… and oh look…
so u werent in there and u try to be a hero now? please if ur not related to it, dont join it…
a hero how? i keep seeing people claiming ridiculous numbers that ive never observed in wvw and the only conclusion i can come to is that the vast majority of wvw players cant count, therefore i feel it is my obligation to question your mathematical abilities (as they seem wrong to me)
next time you feel like claiming a side has a ridiculous number of players please take a screenshot and check it
i love my GS in wvw, swoop and counterattack are amazing, the auto attack is much better at zerg clashing than swords and hilt bash interrupts are still amazingly useful without traiting for moment of clarity
… though it could use some love (counterattack root on hit in melee range… ARGH) i do think its an extremely useful weapon
I would not cry if they made it a blast finisher though.
i would be strongly strongly against this
swoop/leap every 10s
maul/blast every 4/5s(?)
15s duration healing spring
2 leaps,2/3 blasts = 1,320*4/5 = 5280/6600 healing
… thats on top of healing springs base 4920 heal, 2.3k regen and condition cleanses
read my post carefully, especially the part of defending keep. KEEP KEEP KEEP, not tower d’oh. keep going on ^^ and i was talking about the other picture stop posting if u dont read the whole thing lol… you just made yourselves look like not smart people.
then why didnt you post an SS of the battle you were referring to then? because i highly doubt desolation has 60+ players anywhere but EB at prime time (maybe… i dont EB much)
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Would you mind explaining to me then, why nobody, not one person has ever come to the forums, male or female, to complain about why every male character in this game (with the possible exception of Charr) are pretty much the vision of adonis and stereotyping males as big musclebound warriors with perfectly cut bodies or why males haven’t complained that it’s damaging to men who can’t live up to this perfect vision?
Sexism works both ways.
I agree with some of the points brought up about the Watchknight’s visage, however, some of these reasons people are pushing seems to stem from people’s personal neurosis and lack of self esteem about their image and trying to use it to bolster their argument. If it’s crushing to your psyche to not live up to what a female character (or even male for that matter) looks like in a video game, you have much bigger self issues at work.
i specifically recall someone posting about… i think its andrew? the tavern innkeep in one of the human personal stories because they wanted to play as his bodyshape not the ones currently available (or something like that)
Whatever way you look at it, a creature that can live in lava shouldn’t be able to be burnt. Same as a rock shouldn’t bleed, and an Ice Elemental shouldn’t be Chilled.
These sorts of things make players think of different approaches to how they fight enemies.
which would be fine… if ice elementals and icebrood were immune to chills or earth elems and golems were immune to bleeds… but they arent… which makes dredge, destroyers and hylek very… annoying
from what i gather the upset about this is that they’re robots with totally ridiculous designs (high heels, overly detailed… and why the hell do they have an idle animation?)
as an asexual male (yeh yeh… dont go there, i will never be able to explain it to someone… there was an article i read somewhere with a nice quote… but i forgot to bookmark it and/or note the quote) i find it ridiculous that a robot(… thing) designed to defend kryta would look as it does
The other factor the food only plays in wvw with the -40% stun duration food
You should also know that a 1 second stun is still very potent and with that a player can loss because you inturpet his heal or just plan out kill him with team coordination. I really don’t see this as a problem since in wvw its mostly just zerg battles. So that stun duration decrease is very viable there because a ton of people throwing stuns at you is just.. out right unbalanced if you didn’t have a way to nullify it somehow. I’m pretty sure the food is there to help subside the fact that there are many people throwing stuns around in wvw. Also 3 second stun is very very strong getting it decreased to .7-1 second is still very strong. In team play 1 second of not being able to do anything can be a deadly situation.
Also if you are one of those people that roam around by yourself you just have to be more aware of the people you decide to fight.
Now i could see your concern if this was possible to do in spvp.
I hope this kind of sheds some light on why this probably wont change.
I must disagree on your point of view. In zerks people throw a lot of conditions too. For example, Conditions can be buff to +65% duration. You have food that gives you +40% condition duration and traits that increase condition duration by +30%. This gives you +70% condition duration.
So, if you use 6 Melandru runes + -40% condition duration food, you completely nullify the condition duration of the enemy and the conditions only last for the original value.
In fact, In zerk battles you die not because of direct damage, but because of condition damage. Now imagine stacking the condition to +1 min. That my friend will be unbalanced! Luckily we have melandru runes and food that nullify the conditions to their original value.
zerg…. being a starcraft reference… is groups of people in wvw
zerk… meaning berserker is a gear stat
isnt it?
i keep running into people mixing them up ‘zerg warr lfg’ ‘zerk at hills’ and its driving me crazy
- also… i dont die to conditions in wvw… though my main wvw char is necro (putrid mark and consume conditions being my removals… but i can tank them through DS) my ranger (arguably worst condition removal access in the game) doesnt have a problem with conditions either (my ranger being 30/20/20/0/0 and secondary wvw char), if you die to conditions then you’re likely standing in something you shouldnt be standing in, or being focused by a condition build and are letting them do whatever they want… compare that to say… static field… static field is a zerg killer with an organised group if used right, hammer warrs can break apart mobile zergs
tl;dr CC leaves people open to easily getting focused (easy because of the vast amount of players) whereas condis are just slow damage (unless you get loaded up… which is just the same as being focused by direct damage… -cond duration then acts similarily to toughness)
necro dagger doesnt either; its a defining trait of dagger mainhand
necro might be good at getting the achievement… condi build using scepter (just auto attacking and running around) or power build with dagger/x and axe/x
i recall just sword ninja-ing him in the corner on my ranger, didnt teleport once… didnt even realise he teleported around till i saw someone else against him
(and i think all of the bosses before strugar and chompers (by extension liadri) are easy – salazan confused me a bit at first… thought i was supposed to get out of the ‘deadly fire ring’ – so dont really think a rebalance is needed)
the center of the aoe ring on the first picture isnt visible from the gate gap though (is it possible to aim through that gap? o.o, wouldnt it have to be right up next to the gate?)?
From that position I could have destroyed your ACs. I don´t know if the area would be exactly the same as in your pic but it comes very close.
I don´t know if it is possible to do with a AC that stands farther away from the gate.
good to know
i didnt see an AC where yours is (the only one i was was at the end of the… wall… thing i was standing on – if i rotated the camera a little to the right then walked backwards and jump down i mean) but i suppose i couldve missed it (or the one i saw could hit the same location)
This is not funny. There are enough places in the world where legitimately elected leaders really are threatened with things like assassination; let’s not bring it into the video game world, please. Whether the voting was rigged or not, keep it civil.
thats stupid, we already have torture (nightmare court), murder (dont we go around killing tons of animals, lesser races and other people because farmers ask us to?) and war (wvw) in gw2
and video game world is extremely morally ambiguous, if ellen kiel was a real person then yes this would be insane, but its just a game… not real, dont take it so seriously
this AC fire was zoomhacked right? or am i just seeing zoomhacks where there are none?
the second SS was me trying to work out how they could target where they were
oh and MS seems to have a ton of runaway thieves, as soon as i poked them they legged it
Not necessarily I think.
Depending on where the AC was you could use the gap above the gate to target that area.
the center of the aoe ring on the first picture isnt visible from the gate gap though (is it possible to aim through that gap? o.o, wouldnt it have to be right up next to the gate?)?
this is why hard to use ranged weapons(axe is a nightmare) in wvw. if you want to see anything you will hit the mother earth, or watch the back of your character and nothing else (i hope you are a big, furball charr)
if you bind next target to an easily reachable key (i bound mine to mouse wheel click) it becomes much less infuriating, but becomes a bit random as to who you end up shooting in large scale battles
i think its likely ‘working as intended’
since you’re gaining stability from just activating the skill its had an effect and… ugh i dont know how id explain it without sounding stupid
like eles churning earth, the actual attack is at the end of the cast… but it pulses cripple, as soon as it starts pulsing cripple if you or an enemy cancel it then it goes on full CD, you can cancel it before the cripple pulse starts and it wont go on full CD, im assuming WoPs stability is activated as soon as the skill is pressed and it counts similarly to churning earths cripple
tl;dr just a side effect of it becoming a stunbreaker (and needing stability to be used as a stunbreaker since its not instant cast)… its probably the same for warriors stomp (but im too lazy to check)
thats because you have no enemy targetted so its shooting (roughly around) the center of your screen
- channeled skills (such as rapid fire) continue shooting at a target after detargetting them, which means that itll ‘track’ stealthed players (if you use longbow activate rapid fire just as you think they’re about to stealth)
And they’ve said multiple times they wont be making new weapon types anytime soon. They will be bringing in new weapons for all classes from the pre-existing weapons. It actually irritates me when people come up with unrealistic suggestions like scythes, because it doesnt help the discussion and it just derails the topic into some fantasy land.
ive only encountered this once (playing since headstart 2.3k hrs played, i wasnt the one kicked – me and another player were pugs in a 3 same guild party)… i find it hard to believe people encounter it as often as they do without doing something wrong
i often join guild parties as a fifth pug and dont feel worried they’re gonna kick me to invite someone else partway through the run (ive been asked if i would leave BEFORE starting a run because one of their guildies wants to join)
… or maybe im just lucky?
(by ‘this’ i mean kicking purely to invite a guild member)
I just wish Desolation and Abbadon’s Mouth had more roamers. They always seem to be traveling in packs of at least 2 or 3.
funny; i havent seen solo piken roamers either shrug
Really? That’s the only thing you could possibly come up with? Piken has plenty of roamers in EB, which is where I go usually. Don’t be fooled by the herd running behind the commanders. There are still people on Piken who like to PvP in WvW, instead of just steam-rolling enemy zergs.
well i rarely play EB, i mostly stick on the borderlands and i cant recall seeing a single roamer , its the same as you say abba and deso are; groups of 2+
And my point is that this is very funny to read that 35 man raid is a blob
35 players is a lot, just because you’re all in one guild doesnt make it any different to deso or abba pug ‘raids’
- note that alot of deso use a single teamspeak channel (i dont because im crazy and hate teamspeak… well… talking… people…)
and i dont understand all this ‘blob’ insulting
we blob, you blob, every server blobs
well the same works for the abaddon ac zoomhackers wich you call out
i didnt call out abba zoomhackers; i called out possible piken [SPRT] zoomhackers (i guess ill go build an AC where they did and see if it could hit our ACs)
- though im sure abba also have their share of morally poor players
- also i saw your guild in piken garri earlier today; how did those ACs manage to take out our ACs at inner? o.0
THIS IS SPARTA. Don’t forget about it.
forget about what? i killed a dozen or so of you and then for some reason (joey seems much more inclined to take things rather than hold them) we abandoned garrison and took your bay
i shouldve taken a screenshot of that AC fire; im fairly sure it was zoomhacked
“SPRT is blobing”, – said FG, biggest Piken guild before they transfered from there lol
Our usual situation on this week – SPRT is swimming in Blobadon river http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/qweqwe.1375462382.jpg
is this where the ‘60-70’ man zergs come from? thats a three way
- also i saw your guild in piken garri earlier today; how did those ACs manage to take out our ACs at inner? o.0
THIS IS SPARTA. Don’t forget about it.
forget about what? i killed a dozen or so of you and then for some reason (joey seems much more inclined to take things rather than hold them) we abandoned garrison and took your bay
i shouldve taken a screenshot of that AC fire; im fairly sure it was zoomhacked
funny desolation talking about hacks but rezzing mesmer in bay through walls
it would be funny; if i were the person rezzing through walls; which im not; so i can talk about people hacking all i want without it being hypocritical
one desolation hacker doesnt make the whole of desolation hackers; just as one (or two) piken hacker(s) doesnt make all pikens hackers
Almost every single boss in gw2 is a dps fest. You just said something as pointless as someone pointing out that guardians and warriors are heavy classes to someone who thinks they’re medium classes.
If you have some way to escape the crystals you can solo every boss aside from the Destroyer. And even with him, you just need someone to operate the lasers, you can have it take 100 trips if you want. That’s the opposite of DPS check. DPS check means time-gated windows to do your damage otherwise there’s some sort of non-reversible condition to wipe the party or regen the boss to full. Enrage mechanics, etc.
- also i saw your guild in piken garri earlier today; how did those ACs manage to take out our ACs at inner? o.0
THIS IS SPARTA. Don’t forget about it.
forget about what? i killed a dozen or so of you and then for some reason (joey seems much more inclined to take things rather than hold them) we abandoned garrison and took your bay
i shouldve taken a screenshot of that AC fire; im fairly sure it was zoomhacked
why do you sign your posts? thats ridiculously stupid; put it in your signature if you like your name and guild so much
- also i saw your guild in piken garri earlier today; how did those ACs manage to take out our ACs at inner? o.0
ow and on a side note , i know thiefs got condition removal in stealth , but could we get like a condition removal on dodge ( 10 sec cooldown ) for the non stealth based builds ?
Most of the buffs I see on mobs, can’t be played with.
Maybe I am playing with the wrong mobs.
oh; you mean stuff like http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Frenzy_ ?
if so; yeh removing stuff like that would be kind of nice … transferring it to yourself would be OP at higher stages… and cant see what it could be corrupted to
i misunderstood the first post; i thought you were asking for all classes to be able to manipulate boons and conditions… but yeh having mobs use more boons would be nice (the only ones i can think off of the top of my head are dredge gong players, skales and ascalonian monks… then again… classes with the ability to manipulate those buffs do have a strong advantage against them… except skales… skales are super duper easy)
couldnt fit all but i guess that tells enough
