The thing is, if they made HoT as easy as core maps, then all the people would just deplete core content and all the new players would have been leveling in empty maps with no veteran around to show them how the game operates.
No matter what style the expansion maps were, players would still be playing in those maps as well as core Tyria.
And in HoT there is no guarantee of a vet player showing anyone the ropes. I have been in several failed AB metas lately where after it failed many “vets” criticized people doing things wrong. My comment in Map Chat was “why didn’t you tell people what to do while the event was running instead of waiting until after it failed?”
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. As in for “showing the ropes” I wasn’t talking about HoT maps. I personally think that for any new player starting the game, it feels motivating to see players appearing as “vets” (due to their skin) still go back in core tyria. And that could only really happen if Anet devs, in the first place, did not make HoT content a carbon copy of how core maps operated.
I’m still not understanding – you think that vets wouldn’t go back to core Tyria no matter what style the expansion maps were? We still have dailies…
Didn’t ArenaNet kinda tell us they didn’t want the Vets in core when they killed the Champ Trains?
If memory serves me correctly folks were whining about the trains (Vocal Minority) so they killed it. Seems like the maps started losing population shortly afterwards.
Would have loved to buy the Balthazar Hound mail carrier directly, but it will be a cold day in hell for me to gamble away my money. Especially when every time I used one of my rare freebie keys from the occasional map completion reward I got nothing but trash items.
To me these Black Lion Chests are currently just a Korean style cash-grab scam imo and I would never spend actual money on buying keys.
I’m with you 100%, that’s why I won’t buy keys and only get a few from map and personal story completions.
And to be honest I have never gotten anything from a chest or drop worth anything. If I like something in the Black Lion Trading Post I will buy it with cash to gems, I keep in game gold as gold to spend on my characters.
This is the main reason I stick with Ascended over Legendary. Yes it would be nice to stat change but I know I will constantly change the look to the newest skin so I just make multiple Ascended with different stats and skin them. Not to mention its cheaper lol.
This is a solo instance. Do it like this and you won’t have this.
It’s an instance, not a solo instance. From the very beginning you could go with friends into personal stories without being penalized. There was precisely zero reason to change that.
I run a casual guild of a couple of hundred people, and I’ve had to do that mission about fifty times to help get people through it. I can’t tell you the number of times I soloed the end of it, because someone was in the penalty box.
You might love challenging content, but not everyone does and for the main story it’s probably a bad idea. It turns more people away from the game. Story is something casuals should be able to do with a relatively basic skill set.
But if story missions are “press A to win”- then where is the sense of thrill, the sense of achievement, the sense of survival. Oh look it’s mordremoth, the elder dragon. He’s been designed so 10 year old jimmy with slow reflexes can kill him with just auto-attacking.. I better brace myself for this epic figh- oh.. he died while I blinked
But in all seriousness, sometime during those 50 trips to the penalty box, a spark must’ve travelled through the brain to make a person think “hey, my strategy isn’t working, I need to use more CC, I need more dodges, I need more mobility, I need more X or Y”, and then adjust the traits and skills to get that. And I’m honestly curious, did they invest anything in the fight? are they wielding/wearing optimal equipment, or are they running some weird prefix not meant for combat at all?
I would/could agree with you if this were a World Boss, but not on a Personal Story. I think that’s what is being missed Personal should be soloable without having to invest in different armor or weapons than what was used to get to this point. Remember you aren’t actually killing Mordy at this point its a mind game, his death comes from the Dragon Stand Event.
I like how people keep throwing the term “deus ex machina” around without realizing what they think it means is not what it really means.
You mean like:
1: a god introduced by means of a crane (see 1crane 3a) in ancient Greek and Roman drama to decide the final outcome
2: a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty
… the shipwreck, far from being a tragic peripety, is the deus ex machina which makes it possible for Defoe to present solitary labour … as a solution to the perplexities of economic and social reality. — Ian Watt
A lot of people are losing interest (or getting frustrated) by these style of maps. I’m sure there are people who enjoy it, but… I just don’t see an equal amount of those folk.
Also whenever someone explains this map I laugh because it just sounds ridiculous.
Because folks who like things tend to play them and not complain in the forums.
Wow then you must really hate this map if you are here instead of playing, complaining about others complaining lol ☺
I’m aware of how it currently works, but it could easily be started by clicking the “new NPC added” to start the map event….
So effectively you want to postpone the map reset, giving the players the control over the exact moment it happens. Now first, I find it very likely this option to have pretty much the same result in regards to your issue. Surely someone will click it, pretty much as the map starts. You can’t rely on everyone in the map to act according to your wishes.
Second, players get to see the reset. It breaks the immersion. It can be seriously annoying. Imagine you’re communing with a HP in one of the towers when suddenly the boss spawns right on you. Or a whole throng of mobs appear out of thin air.
Finally, it’s really a non-issue. Just play the meta event. It’s fun. There’s no need to brainstorm “solutions” which only work in very specific scenarios and introduce a lot more problems than they solve.
P.S. And seriously, this is the domain of an elder dragon. The most dangerous place in the whole expansion. You really ask to be able to walk around safely around it? Where’s the immersion in that?
Ok so you are going with the “its always been like that so it doesn’t need to change group”?
Look I’m not saying that is how it should be, all I did was agree with the OP that it would be nice to be able to map the entire map without the Meta going on.
This map will get less populated as other areas open and the new expansion opens. Maybe that’s when they re-visit how the area is handled.
And as far as the Elder Dragon I have completed DS more times than I can count so I have knowledge that he is dead.
Maybe a better way is to put one hour between open and close of the map to allow time for mapping. All gates open all areas can be visited that would satisfy both sides on this subject.
At least I think it might….. Have a good day Feanor!!
I agree with you and the original poster. The map should be available 100% for all Waypoints. POI’s, Hero Challenges, and Masteries even when the Meta is not going on. Shut the gates “if” the event is started leave the others alone for mapping and achievements.
The meta starts immediately with the reset of the map.
I’m aware of how it currently works, but it could easily be started by clicking the “new NPC added” to start the map event…. Sorry I left that out I was giving a general idea as opposed to a formal Project layout….
I never felt like Dragon’s Stand was designed with a lot of foresight in mind. Every map needs to be imagined with the scenario that it will one day be dead, with virtually no one doing it. The reason is just the sheer number of maps and the churning out of new maps, which automatically tend to take the majority of map population due to being new.
One side I would like to point out about this, Dragon’s Stand is the ONLY way to get Crystalline Ore, which is needed for both the 2nd Generation Legendary Weapons (Gift of Maguuma Mastery) as well as for Legendary Armor (Crystalline Heart) so I find it hard that the map will just die out and be dead.
Maybe so. I’ve been away a while, so I’m not familiar with all of the recent stuff. I played a lot in and after HoT, but then pretty much quit sometime in 2016 (I think?). Or maybe it was 2015 that I quit. These past few years have been something of a blur.
I agree with you and the original poster. The map should be available 100% for all Waypoints. POI’s, Hero Challenges, and Masteries even when the Meta is not going on. Shut the gates “if” the event is started leave the others alone for mapping and achievements.
As for the “Crystalline” it is only available in DS atm, we don’t know what the expansion will include. And if they did open DS to mapping they could just as easily add “Crystalline” to other maps.
Remember when you had to map WvW for map completion? They realized afterwards that a lot of players didn’t like WvW and removed it from the requirement.
Hello Arenanet, I hope you see this topic.
With the coming of the new map ‘’ Draconis Mons’, I saw myself with a problem:
Another teleport scroll in my shared inventory, currently all my slots are full, so … the Draconic Mons scroll does not fit.
My idea then is the following, just do only one teleport scroll that can choose which maps you want to teleport, this saving space in the inventory, it would be 1 shared slot for that scroll instead of 5.
I hope you like the idea, it would be very useful.
Would love someway to combine scrolls then select location……..
I really don’t care for it, but won’t say I hate it. (1) I dislike the vertical maps aka Tangled Depths to me this is lazy design(2) very disappointed in needing 5 Masteries to get new skill, I had used all I had on the other maps so after doing story and killing worm I have 2 and can’t locate others without new skill to ascend (3) Story seems poor to me, the entire thing felt like lazy writing.
How many folks are aware that this practice goes against VISA MasterCard regulations? According to both VISA and MasterCard they are not allowed to charge your card until they ship or complete the transaction.
The Cardholder only needs to contact their issuing bank (the bank your card is going through) and file a complaint. This could actually prevent ArenaNet from accepting credit cards and/or also be fined for the violation.
Bad thing is the 4 days would be over before the Dispute was settled, but it would force ANet to re-visit their business model.
Oh mighty kitten put us out of our misery. People realize we will still be trolled about this long past the 4 days, right?
It is a common warning with games and similar things. We have it here. I had it in second life. I seem to remember both warning me in advance. I have ESO being shipped to me and I am sure that is in the fine print somewhere there too ….. not that I really care since I already have more than a week’s worth of stuff I want to investigate.
How many folks are aware that this practice goes against VISA MasterCard regulations? According to both VISA and MasterCard they are not allowed to charge your card until they ship or complete the transaction.
The Cardholder only needs to contact their issuing bank (the bank your card is going through) and file a complaint. This could actually prevent ArenaNet from accepting credit cards and/or also be fined for the violation.
Bad thing is the 4 days would be over before the Dispute was settled, but it would force ANet to re-visit their business model.
The complete game is shipped immediately. That complete game comes with various restrictions, including that Lion’s Arch isn’t available immediately and that there are anti-fraud restrictions, requiring a wait period.
I doubt very much if Visa/Mastercard et al would be interested in making it harder to combat fraud, or concern themselves with the minutiae of limitations on the game
Then you would be wrong with your thought. VISA and MaserCard have regulation books in PDF format that all banks and processors must adhere to and they are very detail oriented.
Do you work in the Credit Card industry, I do so you are wrong. That being said the main theme of the conversation was “even with” a 4 day period the card holder has up to one year to dispute the charge, then it falls back on the merchant (ArenaNet) to prove that is the person who made the charge. Being a MO/TO (mail order telephone order) merchant they lose nationally around 87% of all disputes (National Average).
Most who receive the dispute don’t bother to fight the dispute because to be perfectly honest it would cost them more to research and present their case since they have no signature on file.
Chip Cards are the best way at the moment to fight this but that is 10 year old technology (US is on top of this aren’t they, this was implemented in Europe 10 years ago) but at this time those can be compromised as well.
So again 4 days does not give ArenaNet a safety net they can still get burned, and at the end of the day this only serves to inconvenience their customers with this approach which leads to unhappy customers.
How many folks are aware that this practice goes against VISA MasterCard regulations? According to both VISA and MasterCard they are not allowed to charge your card until they ship or complete the transaction.
The Cardholder only needs to contact their issuing bank (the bank your card is going through) and file a complaint. This could actually prevent ArenaNet from accepting credit cards and/or also be fined for the violation.
Bad thing is the 4 days would be over before the Dispute was settled, but it would force ANet to re-visit their business model.
!?! Whats that got to do with in game locks lol?
Basically it says it does no good to have a 4 day block because they shouldn’t be charging the card meaning they have no idea if it is stolen or not. They could do a pre authorization on the card but that still wouldn’t tell if the card was stolen or not. Most people don’t realize their card number has been compromised until they receive their monthly statement.
Simple answer they are breaking the rules by making you wait 4 days and it does nothing to help them in regards to payment. Make sense now?
I see what you saying now.
But really he already has the game it’s free to play theres no cc charge what so ever. Unless HoT is bought straight up to gain both installments.
With that said i never got any locks what so ever when i bought HoT.
But I did have a core gw2 account for 4 years so maybe thats why idk?
Maybe new players could bypass that block by just getting gw2 core first free then buy HoT onto that account separately?
Also idk about that, just curious I suppose.
Oh yeah I understand I have played since Beta and GW1 before, I never had anything blocked either, and I Pre-Orderd HoT. Basically I was saying to all those that claim the rule is a financial safety net for ArenaNet when it really isn’t, unless they are breaking the rules for accepting credit cards and even then there is no guarantee since card holder can dispute charges up to 1 year after the charge.
Some folks will buy play for 6 or more months then come back and file a dispute claiming they didn’t make the purchase. Sorry to get into a boring financial conversation but the reason being claimed for the 4 day delay doesn’t hold water.
Yeah I only do Ascended since I can craft them for a fraction of the cost. I can even make them for various builds (Berserker, Condi, etc) and just carry them with me and still save a lot of gold and time.
Then I skin with the skin I like, the Legendary’s don’t really interest me since the cost is so high and the precursor drops are non-existent for me after almost 5 years of playing.
For those that want them I say awesome get what you want but when the stats are the same I go for the “cost savings” lol….
How many folks are aware that this practice goes against VISA MasterCard regulations? According to both VISA and MasterCard they are not allowed to charge your card until they ship or complete the transaction.
The Cardholder only needs to contact their issuing bank (the bank your card is going through) and file a complaint. This could actually prevent ArenaNet from accepting credit cards and/or also be fined for the violation.
Bad thing is the 4 days would be over before the Dispute was settled, but it would force ANet to re-visit their business model.
!?! Whats that got to do with in game locks lol?
Basically it says it does no good to have a 4 day block because they shouldn’t be charging the card meaning they have no idea if it is stolen or not. They could do a pre authorization on the card but that still wouldn’t tell if the card was stolen or not. Most people don’t realize their card number has been compromised until they receive their monthly statement.
Simple answer they are breaking the rules by making you wait 4 days and it does nothing to help them in regards to payment. Make sense now?
Think about it like this, if you bought the game from Gamestop with a stolen card it wouldn’t be blocked for 4 days. The same issues arise from this as well. Then when Gamestop finds out the card was stolen and they have to give the money back they will contact ArenaNet who will disable the code.
I have to agree with the OP, I hate the mini games and find it as a way of saying “we don’t care what our player base says”. I hear very few (yes some of you like them) say they like them. In fact all folks I play the game with are of the same opinion as me. My thought is if I wanted to play these so called mini games I would buy a console and get the Mario style games, not a MMO based in Fantasy…
I know they are not required but I would like to be able to max all my Masteries without playing mini games.
Again my opinion, along with all my game friends, but I bet if ArenaNet polled their customers mini games would be “Voted off the Island” lol…
I easily spend more than a $15.00 subscription fee for Gems every month. The fee is why I never played or thought about playing WoW. Throw a fee on me and I’ll spend nothing or close to nothing on the game. I know I’m not the only one who does this, but I bet if they add a subscription player subs will decline.
Heck I have 23 Characters level 80. 19 with Map completion and all have at the least exotic armor with Ascended trinkets, and several full Ascended armor, weapons, and accessories. I have maxed out my Bank slots, Material Storage tab, Shared Inventory, and the 19 with map completion all carry their own permanent tools.
Start charging then I will pay the fee only and buy very little in the future.
A VIP sub would be optional… Nobody here is talking about anet charging a mandatory monthly fee to play.
What would be the benefit of a VIP sub? X number of Gems per month, extra boons, what? Really the idea of VIP makes no sense to me. It sounds like a desperate money grab. Not insulting you just trying to understand the process of making something free a pay to play option.
As I stated earlier I spend more on average than a fee would cost, throw out the “Well for $14.99 a month you get special treatment” and I say forget it. I know this isn’t ArenaNet speaking this is just regular folks like us in a forum, I just don’t think cash should give any special benefits in a game that has always been advertised and free to play with a “purchase” of the game.
Anything I “pay” for currently in the Black Lion gives me nothing extra, its only a convenience item or cosmetic item.
I see no need for a GW3 personally. Anyone ever heard of WoW 2? I haven’t either, just keep adding expansions, some won’t follow depending on their own personal investments in GW2 (both time and financial). Others will join GW2 if they see stability and don’t worry about losing whatever they invest in the game.
I easily spend more than a $15.00 subscription fee for Gems every month. The fee is why I never played or thought about playing WoW. Throw a fee on me and I’ll spend nothing or close to nothing on the game. I know I’m not the only one who does this, but I bet if they add a subscription player subs will decline.
Heck I have 23 Characters level 80. 19 with Map completion and all have at the least exotic armor with Ascended trinkets, and several full Ascended armor, weapons, and accessories. I have maxed out my Bank slots, Material Storage tab, Shared Inventory, and the 19 with map completion all carry their own permanent tools.
Start charging then I will pay the fee only and buy very little in the future.
The fact that we still have topics like this 1.5 years after release means that HoT did something very wrong, there’s no point in defending it and trying to find excuses.
Yes, HoT had a very steep difficulty increase to address the vocal minority that was crying that the game is too easy for them. In return that screwed up the majority of the casual players, since ANet decided to treat all players the same instead of focusing and splitting the content to different kinds of player groups.
Every single game I’ve ever played a year after it’s out has had people complaining about it, including Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. Only that there was no official forum stopped it from being as public.
People complained about the introduction of heroes in Guild Wars 1 for years after, saying how heroes ruined the social aspect of the game and people didn’t have to team any more. That doesn’t mean heroes weren’t well done or that most people didn’t like them.
If you believe, seriously believe, that complains about something a year and a half after it happened is an indication of anything at all, I’m not sure what to tell you. This has not been my experience however.
There will always be a percentage of disenfranchised players in any MMO, and they will often vocally complain.
It doesn’t make them some sort of majority however.
You bring up a good point about GW1, I personally loved the addition of Hero’s. Folks can (and will) complain about the “Social Aspect” but truth be known this gave a sector of players who “prefer” to play solo or in smaller groups the ability to still play, still be successful, and to just have fun.
Something else GW1 did I would like to see added would be (as I’m sure you remember) the ability to play a map in Hard Mode once you finished on regular. I think this could possible solve several issues in regards to the “too hard or too easy” argument.
Actually I don’t believe it would solve anything in this game. Just remember Guild Wars 1 wasn’t an MMO. I didn’t need people to do stuff.
People are complaining now about not enough people to do certain events in HoT. They’re not correct, but let’s take it into the future. Hard mode would double the number of zones. You’d halve the player base in each zone. It’s exactly the thing Anet wouldn’t want to do.
I think that the real answer is that you have harder zones and people play the zones to their level of comfort. I don’t believe most people aren’t capable of playing or learning HoT.
I think most people are attached to the way they do things/have always done things, and don’t like change.
But in MMOs changes in inevitable.
There are things I don’t like about HoT as well (raids cough) but you know, I’m not the only one here, and a lot of people do like them.
I think it would resolve most of the “Too Hard or Too Easy” issues since they could choose the map they wanted, and if you think about it they wouldn’t need addidtional servers because it would be the same number of players just split between hard and normal.
It would also allow players to learn the mechanics better then proceed to more difficult content if they chose.
The fact that we still have topics like this 1.5 years after release means that HoT did something very wrong, there’s no point in defending it and trying to find excuses.
Yes, HoT had a very steep difficulty increase to address the vocal minority that was crying that the game is too easy for them. In return that screwed up the majority of the casual players, since ANet decided to treat all players the same instead of focusing and splitting the content to different kinds of player groups.
Every single game I’ve ever played a year after it’s out has had people complaining about it, including Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. Only that there was no official forum stopped it from being as public.
People complained about the introduction of heroes in Guild Wars 1 for years after, saying how heroes ruined the social aspect of the game and people didn’t have to team any more. That doesn’t mean heroes weren’t well done or that most people didn’t like them.
If you believe, seriously believe, that complains about something a year and a half after it happened is an indication of anything at all, I’m not sure what to tell you. This has not been my experience however.
There will always be a percentage of disenfranchised players in any MMO, and they will often vocally complain.
It doesn’t make them some sort of majority however.
You bring up a good point about GW1, I personally loved the addition of Hero’s. Folks can (and will) complain about the “Social Aspect” but truth be known this gave a sector of players who “prefer” to play solo or in smaller groups the ability to still play, still be successful, and to just have fun.
Something else GW1 did I would like to see added would be (as I’m sure you remember) the ability to play a map in Hard Mode once you finished on regular. I think this could possible solve several issues in regards to the “too hard or too easy” argument.
I bought lots of gems already, but there needs to be more attractive stuff to buy so they have more resources.
I would also suggest “not” pulling things from the Black Lions to make them appear rare. Most folks (myself included) would buy more through impulse buys as opposed to the fire sale mentality. I would have gotten the Dragon Wings but with it being close to Christmas and me with no Gems it couldn’t buy. After Christmas and one 46,000 gems (not a typo) its not available so I sit on them waiting for them to come back.
I did spring for the Necro Wings but would also buy the Dragon Wings if they were there. How many sales are they not getting because of limited availability? Trust me I have read enough business articles that will tell you Impulse Buying beats limited time only purchases hands down.
And technically they already have my money (Gem cars bought for me for Christmas) but I still have to wait. If I didn’t have to wait how many more Gem cards would I buy though the year because I had something to buy, instead of sitting on them waiting for something to come back?
As far as the OP’s original suggestion regarding making things only available through the Gem Store I will disagree.
I bought lots of gems already, but there needs to be more attractive stuff to buy so they have more resources.
I would also suggest “not” pulling things from the Black Lions to make them appear rare. Most folks (myself included) would buy more through impulse buys as opposed to the fire sale mentality. I would have gotten the Dragon Wings but with it being close to Christmas and me with no Gems I couldn’t buy. After Christmas and now over 46,000 gems (not a typo) its not available so I sit on them waiting for them to come back.
I did spring for the Necro Wings but would also buy the Dragon Wings if they were there. How many sales are they not getting because of limited availability? Trust me I have read enough business articles that will tell you Impulse Buying beats limited time only purchases hands down.
And technically they already have my money (Gem cars bought for me for Christmas) but I still have to wait. If I didn’t have to wait how many more Gem cards would I buy though the year because I had something to buy, instead of sitting on them waiting for something to come back?
As far as the OP’s original suggestion regarding making things only available through the Gem Store I will disagree.
Glad you’re enjoying those. It’s fun to see what pops up, isn’kitten I finally popped for the Royal Terrace Pass a few weeks ago… after putting that off for a few years.
One of the best purchases I ever made, (got mine years ago lol) when it comes back I’m gonna help a Guildie and get one.
In the politest way possible please don’t start flaming me for this as it’s only an opinion
It’s about time they brought back heros/henchman in gw2.
- GW1 had this from the start and when you could t get a full party or wanted to play alone they were there, with GW2 getting on a bit parts of the game cannot be played because everyone has done it or basically mess around, don’t get me wrong I have played GW2 since day one and love the play system however it’d be nice to have them back.
- it’d be cool to have them In a capacity that you good mould them into your prefffed image too for example skills, armour dare i say it appearance (big ask . Even it was something that cost a multitude of in-game gold to make it’d be great. You could have heros/henchman that worked within the rarity system such as rare heros or exotic heros.
- I’m not saying this would work everywhere either I mean come on 150 heros to complete dragons stand for example lol not going to happen but 4-5 in a dungeon or raid it’d be so fun.
Again please don’t flame me for this post but it’d be nice to hear other peoples thoughts on this idea.
Aries!!
Love the idea, it would take some of the issues with pugging away. Create your own group of hero’s and head to the Dungeon of your choice!!
There were lots of things from GW1 I wish they would incorporate in GW2, after all not everything from the past is bad!!!
19 characters with full map completion… wow… you got nothing better to do?
Like, that’s your problem man, you knew what you were going for, if you didnt need gifts of exploration then why did you bother doing it more than once?
Lol I wasn’t part of a Guild for the longest time so I actually just enjoyed running the map through various characters. I was just saying I wish there was a better reward for anyone doing the entire map.
And to the other who asked Yes I have map completion on 19 characters that’s why I have no gold. Ever tried to get 23 toons armor, weapons, and other items for multiple characters?
It just seems a shame to not include a weapon choice or something when you actually do map completion. Maybe that is where the misunderstanding comes in for some by map I am referring to all maps or as some say World Completion.
Sorry I wasn’t more clear on what I was saying. Again its something I like to do and it really doesn’t take me long. Casually playing I can take a character from 0 to World Map completion in a week or a little under. When you have done it a few times you just know where to go and what rotation works best.
OK then why did I stop having issues (no disconnects last night) and 2 of the other 6 folks I was referring to continued having issues?
You can have your opinion just like I can but don’t quote or direct your opinion at me unless you have something you know is correct. If its an assumption don’t quote and just say something like “I feel it is Blah because of this”.
You gotta remember anyone having the issues is already a little upset no need to throw gas on the fire just because you aren’t.
The most common factor in the reports of problems has been level3, one of the large transit providers. Their network spans the continental USA, so it’s entirely possible that all three of you were hit by issues on their network — especially since the routes will tend to converge as you get closer to the game servers.
It’s also entirely possible that you stopped having issues, while your friends still do, because there were two separate problems, and one was resolved. It could be in the same company, having more than one troublesome spot or it could be separate companies.
None of this is necessarily either related to anet, or unrelated to them, but … it’s a pretty safe bet given how long this all has lasted that the anet and ncsoft staff — who are directly motivated to fix it — can’t do that easily, strongly suggesting that it’s outside their network and, thus, direct control.
Your advice on “opinion” applies just as much to your statements as others, and you might consider stepping away from the discussion as you are pretty clearly too emotional to talk about it rationally right now.
I will suggest the same to you since your “opinion” has not been validated anymore than anyone else. If you are having no issue why are you even in here posting? None of your business this is for those that “are” having issue. So please go away.
I still say with the amount of issues going on the least ArenaNet should have done was to acknowledge there was an issue but was outside of the infrastructure. They could even throw in something like “we are working with the companies with the issues at this time” to let everyone know there is an issue that is or isn’t any problem on their side.
For those of you that don’t understand how internet security works high ping and packet loss at the NCSoft servers are the servers rejecting the ping request for security reason not because The game is having an issue. It’s there Firewall, ping request are not normal game data so it gets rejected and you get high packet loss! As others have pointed out most all of you that posted ping plots have issues elsewhere!
Their servers do allow pinging otherwise we would not see the Ping in Options..
If they would reject ICMP in their Firewall, would not see any Ping ingame. Think about it.
Anet has also confirmed/acknowledged to me they are investigating this issue.
I know you’re trying to be the White Knight with basic network knowledge but from my experience in the IT for years, I kind of know (sarcasm) where the issue is located.
You my friend deserve a Standing Ovation!!!!! Spot on
Wonder why map completion means so little. I have always loved exploring the map and being somewhat OCD, I have to do full completion on all my toons.
That being said why is there not a better reward for completing this achievement? Yes I have the 38 Gifts of Exploration (19 down 4 to go) but since I make Ascended armor and weapons these are basically useless for me. Account bound so I can’t give away or sell through the TP.
I know I can sell to a vendor but the entire stack is only worth a few gold so that in itself is a slap in the face.
I would love to see a little more attention given to this accomplishment, besides the 2 gifts and a title.
I just wish they would slow down the re-spawn rate. I hate taking something out and I work into an area only to have them re-spawn behind me shortly after I kill them off. Would be nice to go into the Centar camp and actually pick stuff off and try to work the area solo without killing 1 re-spawning 2 going on…..
That would increase the fun factor then let them re-spawn after the camp is cleared. Just my thought!!
Wouldn’t that defeat the intended purpose of the farm?
Sorry on delayed response, I was referring to the general PvE area. When traveling the map it doesn’t have me kill something only to have it or another respawn seconds afterwards behind me.
I would rather look around and see X number and to be able to plot my attack. I’m not saying 0 respawn just add a little to the timer so they aren’t almost instant.
I’m still wondering why ArenaNet didn’t make a post saying there were known issues and they were working to resolve, whether it was on their side or elsewhere.
A little communication goes a long way as far as Customer Service goes, and I bet they could have avoided a lot of service tickets as well as frustrated customers.
No issues here in Colorado without a ping path report you don’t know where the issue is and it is most likely a node or backbone in the path you are bing routed to the server so fare in anther post it is locolised to the east cost US so you need to send ping path report to your isp they will contact the companies that maintain the rout to the game server inform them that there are issues. It’s not the game it’s the Internet! Good Luck!
I have to disagree I’m east coast and was playing with friends from West Coast, Mid West, and we were all getting kicked every time we changed maps. Talking on TS so it wasn’t the internet because we never lost connections.
If you never lost connection of your TS server then there was no issues with the path to yourTS server. You oviusly don’t know how the internet works! That’s the Same wrong logic people try to use when they have connection issues “all my other games are working just fine so it must be Anet” different game different path to server. TS different path to server!
It may be the server, but it also may not be.
Just because you and your friends are all spread out does not mean it can’t possibly be a node or a switch along the backbone just before it hits Anet’s servers. I myself was on with friends on TS and on the same server and the same maps at the same time I was and they had no issues while I did. Now if it was a server issue with GW2 they should have had the same issues.
That being said, if this is still going on, Anet needs to be looking at where the problem is because a lot of people have been affected by it and they need to let the community know if it’s a problem on their end or with a node along the way to their servers and they let the appropriate company know about it so the issue can be resolved.
I was referring to the fact that Mr Know it all was saying it was the backbone of the internet. And yes if it is spread across the country and not an isolated area odds are its with ArenaNets connection.
Its not isolated do you really think it hitting folks in Tn, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Los Angeles is tied to an internet issue and not ArenaNet? If you do we will have to disagree.
Yes, because all of those people could go through the node before it hits the Anet servers or another node before that one. You’re acting as if people on the opposite sides of the country can’t possibly go through any of the same hops on the way to server and that simply isn’t the case. Person A in Los Angeles who is on an ISP that has a contract with the same tier 1 provider as Person B on an ISP in Virginia may go through a few of the same hops whereas Person C who is in Los Angeles who is on a different ISP may not share a single hop to Anet’s servers as Person A.
If it was the Anet servers why wouldn’t people on the same map, on the same server all be affected? While this is, or was, affecting many people, it wasn’t affecting nearly the number of people that a server issue would have.
OK then why did I stop having issues (no disconnects last night) and 2 of the other 6 folks I was referring to continued having issues?
You can have your opinion just like I can but don’t quote or direct your opinion at me unless you have something you know is correct. If its an assumption don’t quote and just say something like “I feel it is Blah because of this”.
You gotta remember anyone having the issues is already a little upset no need to throw gas on the fire just because you aren’t.
No issues here in Colorado without a ping path report you don’t know where the issue is and it is most likely a node or backbone in the path you are bing routed to the server so fare in anther post it is locolised to the east cost US so you need to send ping path report to your isp they will contact the companies that maintain the rout to the game server inform them that there are issues. It’s not the game it’s the Internet! Good Luck!
I have to disagree I’m east coast and was playing with friends from West Coast, Mid West, and we were all getting kicked every time we changed maps. Talking on TS so it wasn’t the internet because we never lost connections.
If you never lost connection of your TS server then there was no issues with the path to yourTS server. You oviusly don’t know how the internet works! That’s the Same wrong logic people try to use when they have connection issues “all my other games are working just fine so it must be Anet” different game different path to server. TS different path to server!
It may be the server, but it also may not be.
Just because you and your friends are all spread out does not mean it can’t possibly be a node or a switch along the backbone just before it hits Anet’s servers. I myself was on with friends on TS and on the same server and the same maps at the same time I was and they had no issues while I did. Now if it was a server issue with GW2 they should have had the same issues.
That being said, if this is still going on, Anet needs to be looking at where the problem is because a lot of people have been affected by it and they need to let the community know if it’s a problem on their end or with a node along the way to their servers and they let the appropriate company know about it so the issue can be resolved.
I was referring to the fact that Mr Know it all was saying it was the backbone of the internet. And yes if it is spread across the country and not an isolated area odds are its with ArenaNets connection.
Its not isolated do you really think it hitting folks in Tn, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Los Angeles is tied to an internet issue and not ArenaNet? If you do we will have to disagree.
No issues here in Colorado without a ping path report you don’t know where the issue is and it is most likely a node or backbone in the path you are bing routed to the server so fare in anther post it is locolised to the east cost US so you need to send ping path report to your isp they will contact the companies that maintain the rout to the game server inform them that there are issues. It’s not the game it’s the Internet! Good Luck!
I have to disagree I’m east coast and was playing with friends from West Coast, Mid West, and we were all getting kicked every time we changed maps. Talking on TS so it wasn’t the internet because we never lost connections.
If you never lost connection of your TS server then there was no issues with the path to yourTS server. You oviusly don’t know how the internet works! That’s the Same wrong logic people try to use when they have connection issues “all my other games are working just fine so it must be Anet” different game different path to server. TS different path to server!
More obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. I used TS as a matter of fact and the fact that people from all over the US were having the exact issue means different backbone. Get over yourself and try a little reading comprehension. East Coast, Mid West, California (LA to be exact) will not have the same Back bone.
No issues here in Colorado without a ping path report you don’t know where the issue is and it is most likely a node or backbone in the path you are bing routed to the server so fare in anther post it is locolised to the east cost US so you need to send ping path report to your isp they will contact the companies that maintain the rout to the game server inform them that there are issues. It’s not the game it’s the Internet! Good Luck!
I have to disagree I’m east coast and was playing with friends from West Coast (California), Mid West (Oklahoma), and we were all getting kicked every time we changed maps. Talking on TS so it wasn’t the internet because we never lost connections.
I went back and started re-doing hearts again. I had repeated several just for the rewards but I missed completing one. It turned out to be the one at Doric’s Landing. I had finished it on another toon so that was masking I had not done it on the other.
I guess it’s not a huge thing to go back and do them, but a clear list or other indication of which is done would be helpful.
Exactly, like maybe a strike through or something to indicate it had been completed.
So far I have done full map and story for Lake Doric on 6 of my Characters (as I said I have OCD qualities) and I always finish map first then finish story. I have done this on all my characters since the beginning. This makes it easier to keep up with where I am. That’s why I have 23 level 80 characters and 19 with map completion lol……
Am I the only one who is tired of the game killing off all the likeable characters? When I play a game I look to have fun and get away from the negative aspect of real life but it seems even in the game world they want to kill off everyone we like.
Its like the Odd Thomas series of books by Dean Koontz, had I known how the first ended I wouldn’t have read it or any of the others (I bought the first 3 at one time)
Please ArenaNet get away from the feel bad in every story/game.
Also I agree I hate the hearts resetting each day. I’m not a fan of heart quests anyway so if they would at least keep them solid and if I “want” to try to do them again (for some unknown reason) I could. I really think resetting hearts in the new maps is very annoying.
Just noticed that I’m 5/6 for renown hearts in Lake Doric. Coulda sworn I’d done them all. Since they reset every day I can’t tell which isn’t finished. Without having to go back and do each one, is there a way to tell which I missed? (Yeah, yeah, I know it’s not that big a deal to go do them all, but I wanted to know.)
I think this is a “bug” of some type. My first toon to finish map completion showed I lacked one a week later so I stumbled through until I found and finished the one it was saying was incomplete. I know I had finished because I am that OCD LOL, but also because after finishing I didn’t get another map completion chest.
the vast majority of people do not have these problems when you do
I don’t know why you would say this when you have no way of knowing how many people do anything in this game.
Djinn is right. We have no way of knowing how many people are having problems. The percentage of people who do not post to the forums is huge.
All I can say is that I’ve done this mission myself myriad times now, and I’ve taught other people how to do it who used to have problems. None of the people I’ve explained it to have had problems since, at least with regards to the updrafts.
I find it hard to believe that I can run this content 20-30 times in a row without bug, and reconcile it with the “buggy mess” that some people are claiming.
On the other hand, it’s extremely likely that some bugs exist.
The truth is usually somewhere between the extremes.
I have both completed this with muliple toons and have been part of groups that failed because we were down to one person left (me) and my Mesmer wasn’t able to get the breakbar down before it went back up to 100%.
Easiest solution would be to not allow the breakbar to regenerate until it has been taken all the way down. The add the normal timer to how long before it build back up.
Again just my opinion but seems like a more simple fix….
Don’t overthink it OP, just remember sometimes you can get a weapon or armor piece by killing a grub worm……. If I can get loot from it I’m there lol…..
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I’m well aware of the wall hug path. Once you manage to work through the mass of mobs from both the buildings and that move around I can be made with a high healing tank style toon. I didn’t know about the path by Harvest Cascades the first couple weeks so I traveled that path many times. My hunters did it but there was always a mass of mobs even solo they rock. I got through it with Scrappers because I was unaware of the workaround. It’s just a real slog with half the mobs with knock down or being veterans.
OriOri.8724 I guess a work around is to respec just to make the jump, just the gate doesn’t make sense. I have max gliding and the final jump is just a bit too far without the boost. I don’t mind jumping puzzles, but requiring certain buffs to reach an every day daily seem counter-intuitive.
Mulzi.8273 Yes the peach daily. The final gliding jump to reach the upper ledge of the central platform is just too far without a speed boost, you loose elevation too quickly without it to make the landing.
Not sure what profession you’re playing, but most of them have ways of doing it without respeccing, maybe changing a single skill.
Necro, ranger and thief have signets you can just slot in to run faster. That leaves only 6 professions. Guardians have staff and at least 2 speed skills. That leaves a five. Warriors have banners, and leaps. That leaves four. Mesmers who are chronomancers have built in speed. Others have access to a signet or a focus both of which give swiftness. THat leaves three. Engineers have a skill that gives swiftness and shotgun five skill is a ground targeted jump. I’m sure eles have a way to do it too, but I don’t play an ele that much. Also revenants with their elite spec have a skill which gives you swiftness.
So if anyone can fill in ele and revenant, there’s no real issue here, except having to change a skill or swap out a weapon.
Then there is the second set of Armor with the “Superior Rune of the Traveler” (25% speed increase) attached and swapped back and forth.
Not the most economical solution but another option that works with all classes.
I’m not a fan of the gated access for players who bought HoT. Once the maps are released anyone who has HoT should have access to the map because not everyone jumps on playing the stories. I did play the stories myself but I’m sure there are many people who haven’t played the LWS3 episodes yet.
I really wish the cold resist had been an account wide mastery rather than something you have to do every single day. The recipe isn’t even account wide where other recipes are.
I would so like to see “Cold Resist” as a permanent addition via Masteries or just as a Once you get it you have it on all accounts type of thing. You get plenty of drops for making the cold resist its just really not worth fooling with after you complete the story. That is the main reason I don’t do anything in those areas very often and I never do that (cold resist) for the dailies.
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