i’m lv 50 in WS. i have been playing a bunch of Rated pvps.
all in there are bunkers with a bunch of healers out tank out heal.
i would say the game we have here is most balance, enjoyable …
a lot of op stuffs right now come from might stacking. if only they fix this thing will be very more balance.
or maybe add some more Boon striping ..
I do agree that beside spirit builds there is not much ranger can do in team fight.
Having more usable pet’s skill wont hurt but i currently don’t have a problem with it right now. ( I dont use pet for CC so )
I think pet responsive is perfect right now but it wouldn’t hurt if it goes even better so…
im not so sure about that mobility thing though …. ranger has a lot already unless you play things that have none of them.
It doesn’t really matter what you use in wvw… there is no competitive there while in spvp yea … but it’s free anyway
MM cant be put any further. The build cant win against any decent player out there while it’s also totally screw in team fight.
I actually see the Power necro as much as MM though who are there for pressing 1# DS or lich ….. these types of play wont work against decent players
Terror necro is probably the best choice out there but it requires a lot of skill to survive and keep on par with other class.
Using Settler or Cletic for solution is just a worst idea.
You do no dmg and better play other class that can bunk and might stacking the same time.
do no damdge ? in over 200 match 4 warriors have killed me
is it me or you that don’t understand what i wrote ? lol
Using Settler or Cletic for solution is just a worst idea.
You do no dmg and better play other class that can bunk and might stacking the same time.
they can leave it like this only if they give boon rips to all the classes.
in Tournament, You start with 0 – 25 LF ( from summoning minions ).
its a rule you cant stack before the match … so you better get used to with it.
those who needs full LF before duel are just bad …
no, its obviously faster on certain pets.
very nice job by anet. ( Finally )
u cant just go all in.. try to wear them down. ( using SB more )
kite minions, avoid CC, immo
while moving minions dont follow up fast enough though you can go all it in that window.
It’s not like Condi in Spvp are not a big deal but we just basically outplay them.
instead of going for a cheap way out . . .
i play ele and ranger… screw the meta, it is only a ezmode “play this because its the easiest build”.
I play the build I can perform the best with. Because anything else is absolutely pointless. You can join the sheeps and play the meta and perform thereafter, or you can custom tailor a build yourself and play at your best.I do not play spirit ranger – it is a lame, boring and weak builds. Only reason people even think it’s strong, is because they got no clue of how to counter it. It is a L2P issue by far.
I do not play BM condi bunker, oh no, i play POWER bunker. Because it is harder, because it demands more movement, it demands better play. Half kitten d play with power bunker will not give you a win, because there is no conditions to do damage for you while you run around like a chicken.What do i play? I play rabid trapper, i play clerics BM Regen bunker (2x 1 condi cleanse FTW), i play glass LB ranger. I also play SD Carrion Ele, albeit i haven’t tried that too much in PvP here in EU (did while i was in NA).
Is these builds meta? not by a longshot
Is these builds ezmode? nope, you gotta know what you do or else you get rolled over
Judging by these two answers, my builds should per forum definition be rubbish beyond belief.
However, in one week, iv’e racked up 211 kills in pvp. Granted i only play 3 matches a week day, and a bit more during weekends. In short, despite me just starting out in PvP, i got 1 year of WvW roaming behind me. I got one year of 1v3+ practice. I got one year of being trumped by every imaginable build with food buffs, oils, way higher stats and thus way cheesier setups….I do not post videos to prove my skills, because i got nothing to prove. You either take my word, or you don’t. That is how the internet works. This is also why i clearly state my opinion and experience when others slander what i play.
lol so much blablabla in this one.
Ppl plays or used to play spirit ranger because group support / buffs.
dont just judge thing on your solo Q games
not really a wvwer but .. you are not supposed to win against 1 v 2 or more generally. There never be in mind that someone is gonna “1 beat 2” in high lv pvp.
I guess it’s alright to start with cheese ( SA + p/d ) then start to play a real build after you are used to pvp
back to topic. Guard can do nicely dmg but it doesn’t have a good sustain.
(Low hp, Less condi clear)
beside all that Guardian doesn’t have a good range option. If you fight a decent guy they can kite u to death.
Did I throw rank status around? I don’t even really play spvp anymore let alone gw2 very much, but I’m secure enough in myself without a rank number by my name so here are my stats for what it’s worth:
I have 1874 hours on guard over 629 days
with 1351 games played as a guard in pvp.
When we had ranks I was Wolf rank so /shrug. I played more than the average player but not as much as the hardcore pvpers.I will self admittedly vouch I hardly touch tpvp as I never had a team, and solo queue is a joke so I personally wouldn’t brag about that.
74 matches played Tq and 34 matches Sq, whoop de doo.
But yes, I have theory crafted and tried every build out there. I’m not saying your build is bad, but I am saying unscathed sees little to no use. You are not wrong though, it isn’t competing against anything drastically better, so use what you like.
A lot of the big tpvp guards started using purging flames when it got revamped a few months ago when they were still around. It is easy to sub it out for a skill, not saying go full consecrations, but purging flames “will” provide more damage, team utility, and condition cleansing than unscathed contender.
You just have to sacrifice a meditation, probably contemplation of purity as it has the longest cooldown and wont provide as much medi burst healing as JI and smite will.
If you deem that my experience is negligible and you are better than me, then that’s fine too. I’m sorry I tried to contribute.
lol dude almost all ur games are Hot Join.
Its killable in this patch if you do have the dmg.
Its way better than last patch. Last patch you pretty had to leave him unless you had condi necro.
you have 17 – 18 k hp with 4 or 6 in water trailts. That is not even low
what are you dudes talking about huh ?
Obviously the one that can out heal all the craps are those ele with 4 – 6 water + Celes
Its just like MM necro but a little bit worse.
Learn to rotate your Clean and Dodge / evade / block.
There are only a few skills that do most dmg. Dodge it
You also don’t need to clean everything. Clean only the one that hit most or high stacks.
If u have a good burst they should die before you.
it’s not Condi meta anymore.
They already buffed the power up.
Maybe nerf healing power ….
Except for spirit ranger, no condition build is a bunker. I have no idea where that perception comes from. Condition builds are supposed to be tanky, because they’re about attrition, but they’re not anywhere close to being bunkers. (And usually that tankiness is there to make up for a distinct lack of mobility and susceptibility to focus fire.)
it’s not the build that make bunker. it’s amulet.
not like everyone uses carrion.
That is completely wrong. You either don’t know what a bunker is or you’re overestimating condition builds.
Tanky, immobile DOT builds are completely normal in MMOs. It’s an archetype. But they’re not bunkers or tanks. Not even close.
I see you want your cheese back. no point talking anymore lol
Except for spirit ranger, no condition build is a bunker. I have no idea where that perception comes from. Condition builds are supposed to be tanky, because they’re about attrition, but they’re not anywhere close to being bunkers. (And usually that tankiness is there to make up for a distinct lack of mobility and susceptibility to focus fire.)
it’s not the build that make bunker. it’s amulet.
not like everyone uses carrion.
Ok it’s bad that there is no necro
but ITS GREAT that it’s not condi meta anymore.
playing condi bunker is so hard …
I don’t think you can beast the 30 shadow art one but in spvp you have a fairly chance.
i think build fear spamming would make ur life easier a lot.
I think power is ruling this patch with might stacking and sigil.
Condi is not as good as before because now you can kill ppl way faster.
90% of Guardian are always bunkers
then now we have celes ele and engi.
Engi is not that tough unless a troll turret build. Ele is quite tough if u r not max dps.
good condi necro used to faceroll and melted every bunker down in a few second.
now it’s still ok but not as good as before… you can’t faceroll like before anymore while having no mobile.
You would get rekted very fast if u r not on top of ur game which a few ppl can pull this off.
just like others said.
1st. Stop playing PU is cheese and for noobs
2nd. It’s hot join ….
a lot of noobs rely on healing power like Settle or Celtic.
Try to play something that actually do dmg and learn to dodge at right time / using skill at right time. this will improve your game play. ….. not just trying to out heal and do little to no dmg ( that bring your team down as well )
shout warrior could do a better job at that role.
it’s the same problem like before the patch with burning guard.
it works well against glassy builds especially thief but it will never come on top against well all around builds.
ele that tune in water they can even clean up all the nec condis these days
maybe if guardian base hp was around 15k this could be a meta.
that 0/0/2/6/6 with any bunk amulets is very cheese right now
u basically tank all the craps until u have 25 might stacks.
not every class has boon strip though and still without might is still very tanky.
make a team and join weekly tournaments ?
if you havn’t already done
I have a level 80 mage, and a level 80 beast master ranger. I have played GW2 for a few months now, and I LOVE the game.. with the new PvP rewards, I have begun solo quing but my team is always losing…. I play my mage with phantasms and PU, and I win all my fights but my team still loses… What can I do to make my team win more. I think my record is like 6-51, I just dont know what to do. I am willing to change build or class if that helps!!! Please help me out so my team can start winning!!!
you mean u play mesmer ?
i can tell you one thing … ofc u dont die but being pu wont help your team anything same with shadow art thief though
if those wvw thiefs are that good They would have entered weekly tournament already.
they allow u to use your cheese shadow art though… in case u dont know.
from all the posts i have seen from you. it sounds like u are solo Q player.
for solo Q , u would want a higher lv for sure.
but in Team Queue it’s more about you know the guy u play with… Lv doesn’t matter.
wvw will never be balance with all the foods and stuffs depending on pve.
spvp is way better place
The custom arena working as great as dueling option.
you can set the room 1 player per side as well.
once the death map arena comes out i imagine , it replaces the foefire.
I don’t think you will get the “flag dueling” like Rift or other games in here
it seems they just don’t have that system in game at all
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
I bet everyone over rank 50 has pvp’d more than youv’e pve’d and we have almost nothing to show for our efforts in this game.
Anet finally shows a shed of love to less than .1% of the pvp community with a decent reward and people are already whining about it?
Classy.
You mean the home defender that rarely has to do anything above or beyond 1 vs 1 with their usual OP build? Or you mean the Pvp giant guardian who stands on center node all game long? Perhaps you mean the rank 50 skyhammer farmers?..maybe you’re referring to the PvP vets who were accomplished pre mades that were placed against PuG’s?
Just because someone is rank 50 and may have PvP’ed more than PvE is not an acceptable excuse to justify this reward. Many people are still after almost 2 years trying just to get a precursor to drop, let alone a complete legendary weapon of their choice. All this shows is the reward for the tournament is lazy. A specific PvP skinned weapon where the stats can be selected was far more appropriate. It shows there is no love for PvP when you can’t even come up with a specific reward for a PvP tournament. Instead you just give items that can only be used in PvE.
You just sign in and win the prize. That’s it.
dont bark, just do it
/thread close
i really doubt shadow art thief would contribute anything ….
if its like other game , There are probably kill points. Being shadow art thief is just dumbing your team.
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
TIL BEING THE BEST TEAM IN THE kittenING GAME ISN’T EARNING kitten.
Best team in the game….right.
Best 5 people in the game that decided they wanted to PvP.
go back to pve
How about I go back to WvW and continue to help our server beat the crap out of your server… ;P
lool you think i really care about zerging in wvw ? …
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
TIL BEING THE BEST TEAM IN THE kittenING GAME ISN’T EARNING kitten.
Best team in the game….right.
Best 5 people in the game that decided they wanted to PvP.
go back to pve
who is hosting this ? Anet ? O_o
I’m seeing pve hot fix right now.
Why in the world can’t you do the same to spvp ??
It’s PvE that they care about. PvP gets less attention than WvW does…
You say that even though Josh spends most of his time in the Mist instead of in WvW.
It’s because here requires more skill than wvw = more fun.
it’s not a big deal for other classes at all because most are condi.
only thief would complain here because all they do is 33333333
it’s fine in spvp, tpvp.
it’s just broken in wvw with 99% of ppl running troll stealth ( shadow arts ) and shorter reveal
try to play without 30 shadow arts… if you wanna get to top thief in tpvp, touney
it’s obviously good when you “can” win 1 v 1 on far point
but tbh bro… in pug group spvp, tpvp 80-90% of them don’t win
let say it’s 1 v 1 not about point. this is what most thiefs do in wvw though
typically 30 shadow arts
spam stealth until all condis are gone or heal up to full and come back to fight.