Guild Wars 2

kdaddy.5431:

Just to give my 2 cents

TCG did what they were supposed to do. If we are playing football/basketball/baseball and your best player gets injured and go on. No one stops to say hey its not fair.

No one said last year in the NBA finals, hey cavs its ok we will wait for kevin love and Irving to get healthy so we can play. TCG did what they needed to do and i prefer the decision they made.

On one of the posts, you said have 1 player in spectate mode. I disagree since thats another pair of eyes to watch and chat on rotations, cant have that. Obviously they took a break to find a sub which they did not have. Once again that comes down to a roster issue which many of these video game ESPORTS have issues with.

Any expecting helseth or those followers of his to have to sportsmanship to afk during a game are deluded and cant of interacted with them much in game. The french guys in his team have made repeated racist comments in gw2 pvp chat (one of them in particular) before with no punishment in games I have been in. Helseth himself basically has the role of gw2 bully and is lauded by anet who apparently support his type of behavior which involves demeaning and abusing anyone he interacts with on gw2.

So yeh. Anyone thinking these people would play fair are hilarious. Not going to happen

Collero.7963:

Wishes.3021:

suffish.4150:

With what happened in the vermillion vs. TCG match last night, I felt that I absolutely had to post in a thread like this because I am just unable to get over how much of a bad decision it was to just let that match carry on with the constant disconnects that vm had. If the result of that match stands then season 2 of the pro league is absolutely ruined for me, because that was the absolute most important series of the EU pro league when It comes to finals qualification and it was decided by a dc. Absolutely terrible. I really hope that the match is replayed at a later date. if they won’t let it happen with a different meta, then there is still next week to play it, have 6 games that week, I really don’t care. It will be a huge mistake for that match not to be replayed. If TCG win it as a 5v5 that is fine, but just don’t let a dc decide the most important game of the entire EU pro league.

Sorry if that sounded like me raging, but I needed to post something like that just to get rid of all the frustration I feel about that match. As for the OP, I think that having a 6th player in the match as a spectator would really help because it would limit the impact of a disconnect and allow matches to be fair which can only be a positive thing. If that is not allowed then I think that there should just be a reset of the game no matter when in the game it happens (maybe unless one team has more than a 200 point lead or something) and then if another dc happens then I think that the remainder of the series should be played on another week (keep it at 1-0 or 1-1 if those games were fine). It just stops me from enjoying the pro league if games are decided by disconnects so I hope the rules are changed.

Agreed with the force of a thousand suns
Although it is out of Anet’s hands at this point – it’s completely up to ESL

ESL doesn’t give a kitten about who wins or loses, and what is fair etc. Why would they?

It’s either that or the ESL team handling the “Pro” League are dribbling slugs that have no idea. It literally takes 2 minutes after what happened to make a decision, it barely requires any looking into.

Thank kitten that I chose to leave this game earlier this year.

You only left earlier this year? wow you stayed at least 12 months too long.

suffish.4150:

Lordrosicky.5813:

The guy didn’t get ddosed as he didnt dc from ts. It was a connection issue to the gw2 servers. lol no drama here

The thing is, that shouldn’t make any difference. My point was that the game was decided on a 4v5, which is true. In a game as important as TCG against vermillion, the match should not be decided by a 4v5 no matter what caused that 4v5. Because of this, there really does need to be a rematch and the pro league will be pretty much ruined if there isn’t because I don’t think anyone would say that TCG much of a chance at coming back into either of those 2 games. Of course, they could have but that is extremely unlikely.

The pro league was ruined anyway dude. Nobody watches it. The standard of play is awful for such money available. And pvp in general is a joke. Like this drama should be a big issue on sites like reddit. But it isnt because nobody cares about gw2 pvp

Infernaeus.8473:

Lordrosicky.5813:

The guy didn’t get ddosed as he didnt dc from ts. It was a connection issue to the gw2 servers. lol no drama here

His TS was lagging. The reason gw2 dced and the ts didn’t was that TS doesn’t require as much internet as gw2 does. So gw2 dced but the ts, while lagging, stayed online.

If you get ddosed nothing works dude lol. He probably has kittenty internet

The guy didn’t get ddosed as he didnt dc from ts. It was a connection issue to the gw2 servers. lol no drama here

They will buff stuff come on OP. You must be new around here. The whole game is balanced around PvE. The new traits system was for PvE. If they nerf stuff people will get mad and quit playing and then buy less keys from the gem store.

SkyShroud.2865:

Josh Davis.6015:

Together we grew the active player-base for PvP by 135% last year – and that’s pretty awesome.

honestly, i always thought that the pvp base grew largely due to the reward track implemented at the end of 2014. for this year will be due to the backpiece

Yup. In Wildstar there were 2 dungeons. The boring ones and the fun ones. The boring ones had better rewards. So they got exclusively played at the expense of the fun ones.

gloflop.3510:

I think, the problem is more that the perception of the game’s quality declined. The problem is admitted by the Korean headquarters so I will consider it as a fact.

The aim to attract new players by the tournament is a good idea. However, as long as the base product is perceived badly, it will not work. It has even adverse effects (as the OP pointed out). There is obviously money available. Nevertheless, the money gets rather spent on some “pros” than on the core product. In other words, the customer will ask himself why he should continue spending money for the product when his money will not be used to improve the product but rather for some “pros”. I understand the reasoning (I dont want to say whether I follow it).

More dangerous is the problem of attracting new players. It may sound fun but I consider it as a problem right now. The game is perceived as “bad”. A new player coming would quite likely perceive it as bad as well and not buy HoT. What happens if the overall perceiption of the game’s quality increased? The activation costs to bring this player back to the game will have increased (once a bad experience, why better now?). In other words, attracting new players through e.g. a “pro”-league has currently rather negative monetary and brand value effects.

I entirely understand the concept behind the “pro”-league and I fully understand that it must be hard for a person highly involved and engaged to accept it. However, I cannot change the truth!

Let me make a simple analogy: Imagine you would be employed for Addidas. Addidas produces the ball for the football (in the US and Ireland soccer) world cup. They also sell the ball through their normal distribution channels. Now let us say Addidas developped a “crappy” ball which will fall apart after 3h playing with it. A “pro” player will not recognise it. A game lasts 90 min. A “casual” player will recognise it because he will not buy a new ball everytime he wants to play. What will happen then? The “casual” player will go to Nike or Puma and buy a ball there. If he is satisfied, he will of course stay with the brand (brand loyalty). What does it mean for Addidas? Sponsoring the world cup has even negative effects! It would have been better if the “casual” players did not buy an Addidas-ball in the first place.

And please dont thank me that you got the analysis for free (normally I get money for it (ofc it will look nicer and will be better explained etc.)). Just make sure that I have to shake my head over the management decisions of AreanNet less often and I will be happy.

GW2 often comes up on other gaming sites and forums. The most considered opinion is:

’ Yeh that game used to be good but they didnt update it’. Or ’ It was a promising game but they ruined it’.

The problem is 3 years of directionless development have hurt the games reputation to the point it cannot ever be recovered. Think about it. They released with a vision for pvp. The trait system was considered to make the game one of give and take. Now the traits mean you can just take everything you want.

But a bigger problem is directionless pvp direction. No new competitive maps for over 3 years. Those maps released have been dropped completely instead on improving them. They added leaderboards. They got rid of leaderboards. They added solo queue. They got rid of solo queue. They used to let you queue in heart of the mists. They got rid of this. They used to have in game tournaments. They got rid of these.

Think about it. The list of features removed by anet is insane. Its like they change their pvp direction every year and just remove all the work they have done previously. I honestly think the game is worse now than it was a year after release in terms of the pvp infrastructure. Its suicidal development to not have a direction for their product. The result is a game with a ruined reputation. The problem could be many things. Almost certainly nobodies fault at anet. Could be high staff turnover (which will cause erratic development at times as new people will have different ideas). Could be directions from up top.

But its just amazing they have added and then removed so many features. It makes no sense. Find me another game who REMOVE their solo queue? Find me another game who REMOVE their leaderboards? After they were put into the game for a year. Its strange, and ye the game can never recover. Outside of the gw2 bubble its reputation is ruined.

Josh Davis.6015:

Agemnon.4608:

Snip.

RE: DotaCoach -> that’s a pretty slick website – thanks for sending it over. I’ve seen some initiatives like this run on our forums in the past. I’ll mull it over and see if there’s something a bit more structured we could do.

RE: Balance -> Contrary to popular belief, the PvP team (or wvw, fractals, raids, etc) doesn’t actually handle profession balance. There’s an entirely separate team dedicated to handling balance for all core areas of the game (appropriately named the Balance team). The PvP team (and the other aforementioned teams and more) gives regular feedback on balance issues, but the balance team is ultimately in charge of maintaining the design vision across the game.

For reference, the PvP team is focused on infrastructure -> PvP Leagues and maps, for example.

Re: visibility -> agreed!

Edit: heading home for the evening. Will check back tomorrow.

The pvp team have released no new “competitive” maps since October 2012 btw. Worth remembering the facts

Nobody watches the gw2 “esports” and nobody ever will. Not really anets fault or “the metas” fault at all. It is due to:

1, Its an mmorpg which is not an esprots genre. It has no viewer base and people who play MMOs do NOT at all play for competition. They play for the community and the team work basically. It just doesn’t fit with esports. Even WoW which was the biggest game ever never took off. Despite the biggest game company being behind it.

2, There is no spectator value in mmorpgs. Kind of linked to above. But watch a moba and the overhead style and clean graphics means you can see everything. You can see the stutterstepping to reposition. You can see the body blocking. You can see the elites. You can see how they are moving around the map to flank. You can’t see anything on GW2. It just a load of spam.

3, Gw2 esports is not a success. The viewing figures are very bad even with giving away a ton of rewards to viewers. The same can be said about pvp. They expanded the pvp population? Well done, thats what happens when you add rewards to a game mode in a genre where the players are just there to farm rewards. You could put rewards in a game mode which involves players pressing the same button 100 times over 10 minutes and it would get played. Improve the rewards and it would get played more. This is an MMOrpg after all. A game based on doing stuff to get stuff. Where the stuff you get is the driving force and the doing stuff is the chore to get that fix.

Lastly, the gw2 esports scene is not a proper esports scene based on player skill. The lack of mechanical skill and just rotation skill is pretty poor in my opinion. They get away with it because; 1, Nobody plays mmos seriously as esports. 2, Nobody plays gw2 seriously. 3, the game is based on auto attack spam

But fair play to those benefitting. Why not. If anet managed to trick their marketing department into giving money to 20 dudes to pay for their college fees (against very little competition) then why not take the chance. Good luck to them.

Well done to the marketing department. That 200k for 3k viewers is incredible. The turn on investment must be awful. Hopefully for anet nobody at NCsoft finds out how they wasted $200k for 3k viewers (actually like 500-700 viewers for all but the lan events which is funny if it wasnt so sad.)

This is also why I don’t play. Well a reason for it. 500-0 everyone is pretty dull. They should link rating to rank. And just make people play 20 placement games then get ranked. OP should be able to get diamond in about 20 games. It solves all the problems.

Moral of the story? Getting rid of MMR leaderboards killed this game. Hilarious this game gets worse the more development he does.

Good people can be in MMR hell. However if you are really good you won’t be there. That goes for any game. You can be ranked lower than you should be for sure. But the very best people would break out of bad MMR brackets in a few games.

Also if you want to rank up then really just go to every team fight. Thats how you win solo queue. Dont go free-capping far when they 3v3 mid. You go mid. Kill everyone by carrying. Then just keep killing people over and over. That has been how to carry solo queue since the game came out and I doubt it has changed now.

Erik Waananen.6089:

Thank you, everyone, for your continued input! I just wanted to pop in real quick and let you all to know that I have read through every single post in this thread (in addition to reading many, many other threads across the PvP forums, of course) and that the team is aware of and very appreciative of all of your constructive feedback.

Keep it comin’!

Yeh, but the thing is…this way lies madness. You should be listening to issues people have NOT their solutions. As their solutions cannot be good. You are the designers, the experts, the professionals. They are just players. It would be fair better to listen to peoples issues with the game. Such as “Feature x is frustrating”. And not “This should be changed by 53% to do that”. Honestly, I think you guys listen too much to the feedback, especially on balance.

lol who didn’t see this coming

Seriously though, if you get to legend you get 1 hour queue times. To earn that “reward” you have to farm 50 games in a row vs complete newbs. I played 5 games or something. 500-0 or so every game because I win every 1v2.

And I don’t even try at this game or know anything about this game. So I have to go through idiots for 50 games just to get 1 hour queue times? Yeh I stopped after 5 games. I will return for my next 5 games in another 6 months :P

Dead game.

Like really? I played a few games. First time in ages. This is what I found:

1, GW2 is pure spam. There is no skill anymore. Auto attacks do massive damage.

2, I have to play games vs total beginners. Even without trying and having barely played for 18 months its just easy mode. Squashing these idiots every game. Not much fun to just roll these people for me or them.

3, You rank up so slowly. How can anyone play this game ever? The league system is garbage. It should have a system where you play placement games and then get placed in a league suited to your MMR. Instead its just a lazy pip system which is just about grinding and stomping complete no hopers in ranked arena.

So end result…none of me or my friends can play this game because your ranked system is not good enough. Sorry. Not that we would want to play for long though seen as its a no-skill spam game.

Lastly, you have made 1 supported and “competitive” (according to you) map since release. And that was in 2012. No new maps for 3.5 years. That is remarkable.

gg

DiamondMeteor.8345:

Seems like I usually wait 30 – 45 minutes for a game. Is anyone else experiencing longer than usual queue times?

It is possible I suppose. But then again I think its unlikely. So I would say its all debatable.

On the one hand I agree. On the other hand I feel it is important to believe the opposite. So, in conclusion, I think the answer is nobody knows.

gw2 = fixed. If only anet listened to people like this! This dude needs a nobel prize for services to gw2

gg matchmaking and necros.

I am quitting for 17 days. C ya later people.

Nice guide dude. I hope people read this, because I followed this advice and here are the results:

1, Before advice I was 5 wins and 36 losses this season
2, After advice I have got 26 wins and 1 loss.

Thanks again.

Elspeth.6380:

Necro pre-buff is a-ok to begin with. It turned into an overpowered monster when they give a lot of access to boon corruption which was in response to the bunker boon stacking meta.

Now that the celestial amulet and runes of durability is gone, then they give the Reaper boon corrupting buffs which was way too dumb to begin with.

Agreed. Solution = bring back celestial and let all classes take 4 trait lines instead of 3

Zenith.6403:

10 min 20 sec, ranked arena, 500-429, defeat
7 min 50 sec, ranked arena, 501-196, defeat
8 min 51 sec, ranked arena, 500-355, defeat
13 min 43 sec, ranked arena, 580-270, defeat
5 min 10 sec, ranked arena, 502-100, defeat
6 min 23 sec, ranked arena, 182-500, defeat
9 min, 28 sec, ranked arena, 414-500, defeat
7 min, 54 sec, ranked arena, 576-94, defeat
7 min, 58 sec, ranked arena, 501-221, defeat
8 min, 53 sec, ranked arena, 414-500, defeat

Will you fix the godkitten matchmaking some day?

For statisticians out there, 0-10 distribution deviates from 5-5 distribution with p<0.01 confidence. The matchmaking is statistically speaking broken.

Nice stats bro

If they do this its a game changer. This game would be a top 3 esport with LoL and Dota if they did this. Honestly. Incredible idea.

Foogison you inspired me to get to 10k achievement points so I can play with pros like you

TreK.3794:

Lordrosicky.5813:

See you Trek, you are a hero for quitting until its fun. The forum post on it was much appreciated. You are a true hero of gw2.

I just checked some of your other comments in other topics, you’re trolling is actually pretty funny.

How dare you

Supreme.3164:

Lordrosicky.5813:

An amulet killed me once. It was ridiculous. Nerf it

Do necros know the meaning of the word hypocrisy?

Look all the necros who cried for months to have celestial amulet removed
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Is-it-true-celestial-amulet-is-overpowered

But no need to fret…necros will see the nerf hammer soon enough, I doubt anet will let the 3-4 necros for team epidemic go on for long

As we all know that necros are totally balanced and fair..I’m sure anet is happy with them

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/220151/Screen_Shot_2016-02-27_at_11.36.48_PM_copy.png

Yeah..they’re really fine…don’t say otherwise guys…..

No wait…
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/220152/Screen_Shot_2016-02-27_at_11.38.10_PM_copy.png

I’m saying you guys that necros are completely balanced don’t see you all these PRO players playing necros?

The level of “suggestions” given is truly amazing, a pearl of wisdow :
1- “Dodge condi spam …coming from 4 different sources”
2-" Bring condi removal…as they have no CD, so clearing 10 condis for sec is no prob"
3-" Focus the necros…as they have no stab on shroud, chill to stop kiting, cripples, chill shout etc etc"

I’m simply amazed that all necros players are not legendary yet, anet should auto-promote every player who start a necro…to Esport Champion

You really have too much time on your hands lol

A complete professional like OP must be respected. In fact his views should be fast tracked to anet and adapted into the game. That has work so well previously right?? RIGHT?

O yeh…nah it didnt. Listening to the community too much = madness for developers. They are devs, you are players. Give feedback fine. But anet have done too much listening

An amulet killed me once. It was ridiculous. Nerf it

Incredible idea. You should send your resume to Anet, I am sure they would take on someone with such amazing ideas.

C ya buddy. They might as well take down the servers for a week until you return.

Maybe he had something urgent come up in his life. O NO apparently playing a game of guild wars 2 should take precedence over all that. haha, get a grip people seriously.

See you Trek, you are a hero for quitting until its fun. The forum post on it was much appreciated. You are a true hero of gw2.

Wow this is just incredible. What a remarkable screenshot

Wow this is huge news. Let us know if you decide to go back to thief or not please OP. This is huge news and I must be kept updated with what class ShovelFace.4512 decides to play.

So lets get this right. They give away precursors. They promote this in game. Promote this in forums. Promote it on social media. Gw2 has sold 6 million copies or more. They give away 200k. They waste money on organising the events 2hich could easily be another 200k. And all for 3 or 4k viewers? Yeh anet suck at business

Meanwhile the base game dies due to balancing around this joke and due to new maps and game modes not being supported because 20 esports dudes dont like spirit watch or stronghold.

Yeh this game is funny

Game has been dead for over a year. Anet decided to give a small amount of money to some dudes so they have try harded. There is about 20 or 30 people in the world who take this game seriously. Probably been that way for 2 years. There is no serious element to the game. I know for a fact the pro players are nothing special at all, because there is o competition. Dead game is dead. Has been dead and will always be dead because it sucks

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I don’t think so, but that’s just my personal preference. The down time gives me breathing room to do other things, considering I’m not a “full time” pvper.

Wtf are you on about. It gives you breathing room to do other things? Lol wtf? You realise you could just stop and start during a season and it doesnt matter. Its a terrible thing to remove your only competitive pvp mode for 4 weeks.

Valkyriez.6578:

Not going to happen mate. Conquest is the foundation sPvP is built on, for better or worse. I’d personally like to see some really small changes made to skyhammer, spirit watch, courtyard and Capricorn and then just throw them in ranked. Variety is more important then small unbalances IMO.

Yup. Courtyard for example should be a single cap point 5v5

The signet trait should be nerfed either to only corrupt 1 boon (not 2) or to only give 1 stack of might (not 3). That is the only place a nerf (if it makes sense) would be good

BluesMaker.1653:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Laserbolt.6731:

I am guessing the original developers of the combat system moved on to better things and the people who came after were just not of the same talent.

the people who made the game understood that builds had to give up something to make the game skill based with counterplay. When they merged all the traits they just let everyone have everything. The result is a game based on spam and rotations basically. It took all the skill out of it, and that was a while ago now. I basically quit a few days after that patch. It was so stupid. Such a huge power creep.

Would an fps be fun if everyone carried round nukes and everyone also had made body armour? Nope. It would be balanced, sure. But its not good design. Look at gw2 now. Everyone has perms boons. Perma condis. Perma condi clear. Perma 6k attacks. Perma healing. There are traits which are a whole build in one trait. There was a reason alot of these traits were spread out before. If you wanted to run signets there were a few traits to take. Meditations on guardian meant a few traits. That meant builds were more focussed on a role and had weaknesses which could be exploited with skilled play.

Look at some of the traits now. They are insane . They are about 4 traits combined. This is madness. That is why the game is dead. People play pvp for pve rewards. That is all.

There are about 20 dudes probably not talented enough to suceed at real esports games who will exploit the fact anet is giving away a bit of money for their dead game. There is no skill i this game. Its all based on comp, has been for 18 montns. And on spamking rotations on a point.

Its dead. The trait merge patch ensured of that. Power creep killed it

^This
June 23th was the doom of gw2

Glad to see so many agree with me. But its also sad. Because that trait merge and power creep can never and will never be reversed. So there really is no chance of this game becoming good again. Its over

Laserbolt.6731:

I am guessing the original developers of the combat system moved on to better things and the people who came after were just not of the same talent.

the people who made the game understood that builds had to give up something to make the game skill based with counterplay. When they merged all the traits they just let everyone have everything. The result is a game based on spam and rotations basically. It took all the skill out of it, and that was a while ago now. I basically quit a few days after that patch. It was so stupid. Such a huge power creep.

Would an fps be fun if everyone carried round nukes and everyone also had made body armour? Nope. It would be balanced, sure. But its not good design. Look at gw2 now. Everyone has perms boons. Perma condis. Perma condi clear. Perma 6k attacks. Perma healing. There are traits which are a whole build in one trait. There was a reason alot of these traits were spread out before. If you wanted to run signets there were a few traits to take. Meditations on guardian meant a few traits. That meant builds were more focussed on a role and had weaknesses which could be exploited with skilled play.

Look at some of the traits now. They are insane . They are about 4 traits combined. This is madness. That is why the game is dead. People play pvp for pve rewards. That is all.

There are about 20 dudes probably not talented enough to suceed at real esports games who will exploit the fact anet is giving away a bit of money for their dead game. There is no skill i this game. Its all based on comp, has been for 18 montns. And on spamking rotations on a point.

Its dead. The trait merge patch ensured of that. Power creep killed it

Nilkemia.8507:

Suggestions :

Change Life Blast to have the same speed and condition transfer ability as its underwater variant, Plague Blast. Also, make the piercing/vulnerability from Unyielding blast part of its base abilities.

Change Dark Path to a teleport or leap similar to Infiltrator’s Arrow or Jump Shot, and enemies near where you land/teleport are chilled and blinded.

Doom…Hmm. Sadly, the only ideas I have for this one are to either make it the underwater variant’s Wave of terror or make it like Infusing Terror… :/

Life Transfer siphons boons from enemies and conditions from allies per pulse.

Tainted Shackles gives stability for each foe bound at the skill’s use.

Good suggestions

Phaeton.9582:

Hi Henry,

Firstly, thanks for taking time out look into this. Whilst this has been a hotly debated topic in the past, it’s good to finally see some conclusive evidence on the matter.

I ran these figures again through my contacts in China and found much the same numerically. A nerf would seem like a legitimate response, if only to ease the concerns of ncsoft shareholders (who we believe regularly check this site).

Hope you also enjoyed your weekend, and we wish you the best of luck in your 2016 esports campaign.

~Team Fatton

Thanks Mr Phaeton. Good to see you in and around GW2 again my friend. Hope all is well with you.

On topic: My assistant told me that there was some other evidence floating around with your contacts in China. I was quickly briefed on the findings of this other group of researchers this morning by my head of global relations. Seems like both groups independently came to the same conclusions which adds further evidence to the necessity to nerf rangers pets.

The numbers might change with the upcoming balance patch, but I think within a few weeks my team will have some pretty detailed findings once again.

Keep up the good work. Have a good week, and give my best to your contacts in China.

Thanks,

Henry

All boons need the vigor treatment and in 1 swoop the whole power creep goes away. But espicially protection and regen. I would lower regen by 20% and make prot a 20% damage reduction vs other players

Whiteski.1645:

30% damage decrease to all ranger pets would be acceptable? Where are you numbers coming from?

This isn’t “research”, where is any proof of these insane statistics that you " calculated". Anybody can go on a forum and talk about how they calcd all these numbers and did research.

I feel everyone wants the person nerfed because for once they can’t just be ignored like it has been like for years. For once you guys have to think and actually deal with a pet that makes a difference.

Then some streamer rages over pet dps and everyone jumps on the bandwagon because hey he’s a streamer he must be good right? Not really, if he can’t kill a druid in spvp because of the pet then sorry he’s terrible at this game.

I can count probably 3 hours as the TOTAL gw2 streams I have watched in 3 years dude. If you have seen my twitch account in any gw2 streams talking or watching then please let me know because my account must be compromised….. So its not exactly jumping on a bandwagon. I have no idea who you even talking about either lol

Aomine.5012:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Aomine.5012:

Covis.6037:

Aomine.5012:

Covis.6037:

i already considered pets that did 2-5k dmg on their “burst” abilities , knockdowns other cc’s with animations as pretty good pets.

but now we have pets who do 7-10k+ dmg every 10-15seconds, unblockable knocks, evades, permanent quickness, permanent 25 might. All this with druid having incredible control, best self sustain and decent damage for a “support”.

#prayforbristlebackandrevenantpetnerf.

This guy is a sapphier or ruby dude who knows nothing about how the real world goes lol..

So 2.5 seconds quickness every 16 seconds, an elite that requires Bristleback f2 on a 48 cd that gives you some might for 15 secs, providing all attacks lands = perma quickness and perma 25 mights lol…

Best sustain lol.. (Mesmer, Tempest, Revenant outsustain Druid with superior mechanic such as evade, infinite stability, )
Your so-called best sustain got ripped through by Revenant in 2 seconds. (Banish Enchantment spam 18 stacks confusion + 6 cover condition in 2 seconds), which in a +1 situation you could die instantly if the opponent has half a brain.
All Druid’s cleanse has a delay of 2~2.5 seconds (Glyphs, seed of life).

Druid’s “only” stun-break has a cd of 20, meaning if you got dragged into cc chain, most of the time you’re dead in a team fight. (While Revenant has stun-break with no cd, Mesmer has lots of teleport, invulnerable and evade)
Sometimes Druid’s stunbreak is counter-productive against Revenant because it’d trigger another CC from their trait that leads to another 3 secs taunt, which by then you’re usually dead.

Learn the real world, start doing some real fight, and you’d see that Druid is one of the most balanced class currently in the current Meta. (No cheese mechanic, no 40 secs protection, no infinite cleanse, no infinite stability, no infinite stun-break, no evade evade evade block block block for the whole matches, moderate damage, vulnerable in outnumber fight, vulnerable to cc and so on)

i guess this applies for sapphire / ruby level druids only?

Only a sapphire / ruby dude would cry Druid OP because not many people even play that in legendary. (Because those pros all know Druid is not really strong at all, and cant fight outnumber fight and carry the team like Rev and Chrono do)
If you really fight some legendary division level fight, you’d know how vulnerable druid is in a team fight, and every decent Revenants know that, and would target you in the team fight and quickly kill you.

50% play Revenant and 30% play Chorno in legend division.

I suck at this game. Have not played for 6 months until a week ago and hardly played for the 6-12 months before that too. So I am terrible.

And I played some legend games because I queued with a legend and honestly….lol at calling legend anything other than a grind. My experience was legend was full of pretty poor players. Almost as bad as me, and I have no idea about playing this game partly because of outside time commitments and partly because of all the research I put into the game for the good of the community.

Try to play more and you’d find some God tier players.

The skill level difference within legend is very big, and some people are just trying classes they never played after they hit legend. (Which the result would obviously be poor)

However, since legend division is “extremely hard to climb” (Diamond doesn’t even come close), a x2 and upward legend means you have to always out-perform others to reach it.

There’s only 50-ish people in the entire game that hit x3 legend.

There’re only 4 people in the world that hit x7

Btw, Henry, you have not played for 6 months and admit you yourself are bad, yet you cry that other class OP despite knowing you yourself is bad?

I dont have to be good to know how stupid and OP something is. Especially when it is backed up by research. Its not rocket science. I dont even know any of the skills or traits for any of the classes besides necro. And I dont care what they are. But I know pets hitting me for 5k a time isn’t good for the game.

I highly doubt a division which is just a grind matters much. That ended once they got rid of proper solo queue and mmr leaderboards in general.

Besides, the best players I have ever seen in this game are WvW players who rarely set foot in “stand on a point” pvp.

Aomine.5012:

Covis.6037:

Aomine.5012:

Covis.6037:

i already considered pets that did 2-5k dmg on their “burst” abilities , knockdowns other cc’s with animations as pretty good pets.

but now we have pets who do 7-10k+ dmg every 10-15seconds, unblockable knocks, evades, permanent quickness, permanent 25 might. All this with druid having incredible control, best self sustain and decent damage for a “support”.

#prayforbristlebackandrevenantpetnerf.

This guy is a sapphier or ruby dude who knows nothing about how the real world goes lol..

So 2.5 seconds quickness every 16 seconds, an elite that requires Bristleback f2 on a 48 cd that gives you some might for 15 secs, providing all attacks lands = perma quickness and perma 25 mights lol…

Best sustain lol.. (Mesmer, Tempest, Revenant outsustain Druid with superior mechanic such as evade, infinite stability, )
Your so-called best sustain got ripped through by Revenant in 2 seconds. (Banish Enchantment spam 18 stacks confusion + 6 cover condition in 2 seconds), which in a +1 situation you could die instantly if the opponent has half a brain.
All Druid’s cleanse has a delay of 2~2.5 seconds (Glyphs, seed of life).

Druid’s “only” stun-break has a cd of 20, meaning if you got dragged into cc chain, most of the time you’re dead in a team fight. (While Revenant has stun-break with no cd, Mesmer has lots of teleport, invulnerable and evade)
Sometimes Druid’s stunbreak is counter-productive against Revenant because it’d trigger another CC from their trait that leads to another 3 secs taunt, which by then you’re usually dead.

Learn the real world, start doing some real fight, and you’d see that Druid is one of the most balanced class currently in the current Meta. (No cheese mechanic, no 40 secs protection, no infinite cleanse, no infinite stability, no infinite stun-break, no evade evade evade block block block for the whole matches, moderate damage, vulnerable in outnumber fight, vulnerable to cc and so on)

i guess this applies for sapphire / ruby level druids only?

Only a sapphire / ruby dude would cry Druid OP because not many people even play that in legendary. (Because those pros all know Druid is not really strong at all, and cant fight outnumber fight and carry the team like Rev and Chrono do)
If you really fight some legendary division level fight, you’d know how vulnerable druid is in a team fight, and every decent Revenants know that, and would target you in the team fight and quickly kill you.

50% play Revenant and 30% play Chorno in legend division.

I suck at this game. Have not played for 6 months until a week ago and hardly played for the 6-12 months before that too. So I am terrible.

And I played some legend games because I queued with a legend and honestly….lol at calling legend anything other than a grind. My experience was legend was full of pretty poor players. Almost as bad as me, and I have no idea about playing this game partly because of outside time commitments and partly because of all the research I put into the game for the good of the community.

Lol i also saw a few times people on my team, an engi it was, he teleported straight from close to far. Was hilarious. Didnt report it because he was on my team so i figured he was helping us win so it was ok

mazut.4296:

DS1 must have faster cast and some sort of small aoe/multi target. Maybe bounce to 2 additional targets?!
DS 2 instead of projectile that eventually hit and teleport us to the target, make the necro travel to the target(like projectile) and evade all attacks during the travel. The skill will be the same, but we will get evade on top of it. If it doesn’t hit, teleport back to the starting point.
DS 3 is fine as it is, maybe comparing it to RS, lower the CD a little, 18s?
DS 4 Add some stability.
DS 5 Targets take more damage(20%) while bound to you(during the 4 sec. animation). Alternatively, 1sec. cripple pulse per sec for the duration of 4sec. When finish if not evaded or out of range, not only immobilize but 1/2 sec daze all affected targets.

Ds4 needs a condition associated with it imo. Otherwise it will always be inferior to repears

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Lordrosicky.5813:

gj henry, thank you so much henry, you are awesome henry. It is a disgrace

Not very sincere is it?