Guild Wars 2

Then the exotics, rares and crafting materials to make them will raise equally. You cant expect those to stay the same if it becomes profitable to gamble them.

Giganticus Lupicus is the best boss I found in this game so far. We need more of him and possibly even tougher ones. GL becomes boring after you know his tricks.

they must be really desperate if they do it for exp, a dungeon run at lvl 80 gives 177k exp

I am going after the total noumber of different ingredients, not their shady market value.

Why would fixing DR make it drop? People will have it easier to make money so price will raise.
If you mean easier to get mats —> easier to craft lvl 80 rares and exotics, then you are only partly right. Its already possible to farm dungeons for loot without any dimishing returns on the loot. Thats how I collect my crafting materials. So the impact wont be that huge if at all. Personally I think precursors will raise to 1000g within a year.

I thought Naegling is only avaible for a fixed recipe. And even if its true, 13-17g is horrible for the rarity. Low chance RNG just sucks big time, nothing more to say about it.
Id rather have an NPC sell it for 500-1000g than having to pay a lucky guy, trader or exploiter 250g++ for it.

Wow 3.4g, what a great price. Considering how much you need to throw in to get that its a horrible value.
If you think a precursor should be rare enough to be worth 250g+++, then the prices between trash and a precursor should be worth at least 25g to keep people motivated. Noone likes going through hundreths of sacrifices without anything to show for it.

Currently they are soulbound. Account bound would be much better imo.

they dont constitue 1/4. Remember the 3 gifts consist of several other components itself.

I have yet to get anything out of the mystic forge which was worth enough to not waste it on the next try. And 120g is a whole set of t3 cultural armor. Seems fine to me.
After all plenty of people got their precursors for less than 100g from TP already before inflation got out of hand or by exploiting alpha/closed beta knowledge.
But bring on the entitlement argument again lol.

@lackofcheese.5617 Last time I checked a 5% chance with exotics still means on average you need 240g worth of exotics to get a precursor.
And yes, a precursor is just an exotic, it shouldnt cost an incredible amount. Most precursors dont even have an unique skin.

Slightly different doesnt work. The spam filter also blocks if you say similary things like looking for 3 more for ac explorer instead of 4 more. Or even if you change the order of words completly.

If they want to keep RNG, they should at least raise the chance to get it from the MF by a lot. 0,33% for using 4 lvl 80 rares and 5% for using 4 lvl 80 exotics.

It would mean you get an average of 1 precursor for 20×4×3g =240g or 300×4*0.2g =240g invested into the MF. Still very expensive, but a decent chance.

240g is value of two tier 3 cultural sets and thats just 1 ingedient for the legendary.

They should just increase chance to get precursors by a lot. It should be at least 5% (instead of the less than 1% now) when putting 4 lvl 80 exotics in the MF.

They didnt change it, LinseyMurdock confirmed it recently. Only way to get them is rare world/chest drops or gambling rares/exotics in the MF.

The chance is just that low. Less than 1% with exotics and probably less than 0,2% with rares.
And abysmally low to get it as a world drop. Probably less than 1/10k.

Looks like Anet loves letting heavy exploiters get away. I can understand not punishing people who made one weapon with exploit by mistake, but if they abused it like this, they should definatly be perm banned.

If the party leader/instance owner logs out for more than 15min or logs to another character the instance gets deleted.

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Delolith.9645:

@ Malediktus – This is very short sighted. They are not rewarding JUST randomness and luck. Like someone said….you need to ALSO be legendary lucky to get a legendary. Otherwise just pay the “dictated” price and stop complaining.

Self entitlement never did any good to anyone. The only thing that will provide you is a facesplat on an unmoving wall.

Sorry theres no such thing as legendary luck.

^Thats not an issue. If you transmute a skin onto different stats it becomes the quality of item used for the stats. Not a bug.

I also dont understand why you would want to transmute the legendaries at all. Their stats are perfectlty rounded. Power, Vit and Toughness is probably the most effective stat combinations for most classes and builds.

@Promega.7628 But then we are forced to pay a dictated price and reward a lucky guy. I dont want to reward luckyness.

Are legendary weapons in real life legendary because they require RNG to get? No because they only exist in myths or are said to have special powers eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gungnir, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur. The beares of those weapons certainly didnt have to play the lottery to get them.

@Mourningcry: To me RNG is almost always unfair, especially when the chances are very low. How can RNG be fair if some people get lucky and lets say get it on first try and some several 100 tries? Its only fair if everyone has to make about the same total investment.
Its not like you need 100s of these precursors and eventually it will even out. If you have 1 dusk and 1 dawn you are set for life. If you would need a huge noumber of precursors, then yes it would be more fair, but not if you only need 1 or 2 of something.

Transmuted items dont work, someone tried already.

As expected, the chance to get a precursor from 4 rares is probably about 0,2% or less.

@Vim.7318: Then I would rather pay 15€ per month.

I dont even know if he used that exploit. He got the weapon before that stuff got fixed. But assuming he got it with lvl 80 rares, I still think its unfair some get it in 20 tries and others need 500.

Yes the server lag is terrible during these large events. Anet should get better servers.

akuzum.5263:

Jestunhi.7429:

Malediktus.9250:

I got a little bit more than 100g currently with just farming events and dungeons. Its possible. No trading or exploiting since I hate those kind of people.

You “hate” people who trade? o.O

I guess, he just wanted to emphasis the “exploiting” part but a little grammar problem. Just an honest mistake…

Its not a mistake. Traders add no value to the economy since we have a trading post accessable from anywhere. Traders do no creation of value in this game. All they do is making stuff more expensive for people who want the item for personal use.

Its not like in real life where traders make life easier for you, eg. getting milk from the farmer to your local store. No they just buy up what they deem being to low and sell for higher.

I chilled at an outpost somewhere waiting for my dungeon party got ready and there was an event which repeated every few minutes. After doing it 3 times in a row it already gave less than half the normal Karma going down even further each time.
Why make events repeat so fast if chilling for less than an hour at some outpost already triggers this stupid thing.

Orr is easy, even as a solo player. I tried to go naked (all armor off) around in Orr and still managed way more than expected.

On a scale between 0 and 10, 10 being the toughest, most events are not even on 3 of 10.
I soloed meta events before when noone else was around, that was quite boring.

But then again, even dungeon monsters like giganticus lupicus dont reach a 10 of 10 in my opinion. There should be even more challanging encounters.

exphryl.3857:

It’s the easiest way to get that type of Lodestone sadly…

Which means more Gold for the player and better upgrades eventually. Jormag offers terrible rewards for how risky the dragon is compared to other events.

There isn’t enough open areas for players to farm those or Tier 6 mats in general which is an issue.

How is the dragon risky? I never saw someone die at Jormag on our server except if they tried that achievement or were not revived on purpose.

I got a little bit more than 100g currently with just farming events and dungeons. Its possible. No trading or exploiting since I hate those kind of people.

I have zero motivation to throw more rares and exotics into the mystic forge. Seeing hours and days of farming destroyed over and over by stupid RNG makes me sad.

Someone in my previous guild got Dusk on his 20th attempt of adding 4 rares to the MF. How is this fair compared to people who did 10x more tries and still have nothing to show for it.

I already heared of several people buying 100k+ gems. And I played pay to win games before where some people spent 5k a month. Some people can just dispose such an amount and dont care.

Yes, because they make goods unneccesarily more expensive for people who need something. In GW1 there was still a use for them since there was no trading post. But now since everyone can easily use it from anywhere, theres really nothing positive traders add to the economy.
In GW1 they could buy up small amounts of something and sell someone a bigger amount of it for a higher price. (Saving me time to look for several people selling me small amounts) But trading post makes this completly obsolete.
But even in GW1 I disliked traders, because they often didnt stay with this kind of business but actively tried to rip off people by making them think something is worth much less than its actual value or the opposite if they were trying to sell something.

They give exp and silver. Thats not bad. But I wouldnt mind if they would also give Karma like world events.

At least they help Anet with money and might have spend work in real life, thats still fine with me, but buying up low items on trading post to sell them for more so people who really want the item for themselves is awful attitude. And imo not better than using exploits.

Just did the boss again, no adds spawned, just the usual boring 5min auto attack and sleep fight.

I care if people get rich because of luck. People should get rich by hard work and not by winning the lottery (or by dishonest work eg. manipulating prices in the trading post).

Lol @ entitlement. All we are asking for is a fair way to get them without a low chance RNG involved. I dont care if the guranted recipe costs 250g or whatever. But I dont want to gamble or give gold to lucky people.

Dusk/Dawn will probably peak at 1000g. I dont think its fair for a single ingredient of legendary weapons to cost as much as 10 sets of t3 cultural armors.

Honor of the waves is an easy way to get armor and weapons with those stats.

I estimate the chance to get a precursor from 4 rares to a maximum of 0,2% and from exotics a maximum of 1% from the data I gathered so far from youtube videos and reports on the forums and own try and error.
Dropchance from lvl 80 chests is probably 1/10000 or we would see way more than now. I dont know a single person (e.g all people from the guilds I am in) who got precursor as a lucky world drop or from chests.

crest of the soldier is pretty good jewel replacement.

@Strill.2591 I am on a server which always has long queues until 3am. Switching server is out of question. So at best I can do each jp once a day.

I did the fight well over 50 times (got full set of power vit toughness armor and greatsword). It never happened to me so far.

@Darx: Not really, the precursor is currently by far the hardest part of the legendary. 2nd hardest part mystic clovers and then wvw badges.

If I would use all my 276 skill points left I would gain 136g if your claim is true. but 100+136g still not enough to afford it.