Guild Wars 2

What exactly is the huge advantage to winning a hotjoin game…. the rewards are not enough to justify any of those players doing that. So why don’t all you people kittening join the bad team. It’s only going to make you better players in the long run. I pick the losing team everytime I join a new match.

Decided to try and go for a harder hitting sustain build and came up with this, haven’t tried it in tournament play yet, but as long as your able to watch for knockbacks knockdowns and hard ccs your going to win. This build is a little more 1v1 friendly than my other one but your gonna be much glassier. SA and ds is your only holy kitten button, I know the other two are stunbreaks too but they won’t save you. On sky hammer swap WoP for spectral grab.

This build requires you to be super active but your generating lf and health all the time while being very aggressive in dps. If the players your fighting aren’t stripping or converting your might it’s going to go very bad for them.

This build is also a prime example of why those who are asking for heals in DS may want to think about it a little more. Imagine if this builds vamp worked in ds. Good luck ever killing that necro without 3 hambows.
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Yeah! Let’s make the maps bigger to make Necros even worse!

I seriously hope no one is talking about hotjoins when complaining about 4v5s.

What minions, I’ve only had him on my team once thought I saw flesh golem and shadow fiend.

Once yet get higher up in the soloq the 4v5 games seem to stop.

I always found the Warriors pretty easy as a terrormancer. Just gotta watch for zerker stance. When they go zerker do your best to kite and use deathshroud 4 and lifeblast. Once zerker stance is done they are kittened and most of the ones I fight try to run away as soon as it’s gone. Just fear them into a wall and laugh.

Started out as a WvW player then my stupid server made it to T2. Have gotten really into pvp and made it into top 100 soloq with a powermancer. Looking for a team can play MM, Terror (all variations), and multiple power necro specs. I also play an ele currently trying to learn how to play staff ele but I am an experienced d/d.

Also as a necro we can easily have 100% retal uptime.

Currently I’m trying my build with 2 in spite and taking fitg and both the retaliation traits as well as switched to axe since I decided I spent so much time in ds rather than have the steady ds gain from daggers I wanted the bustier lf gain from axe 2 with the addition of retal from axe 3. Well see how it goes.

He agreed with you on the CC thing pretty much. He didn’t say it should be removed.

The cc thing is literally the only problem I have with this class now. I don’t even care about healing in ds or doing anything else in ds.

When you are in a wvw fight or a spvp fight and you see a warrior a guardian an ele a thief and a necro. Who do you focus and why. You focus the necro. Why? It’s not because we are just soooo much more dangerous than another class, it’s not because if you let us live it’s gg or anything. It’s because we are the one class that can be completely negated by focus fire. Sure we can take it we can even equip 3 stunbreaks and trait the kitten out if then and ds. But it won’t change the fact that as long as we are being focused we can’t to a kittening thing. Other classes all have a way of avoiding focus fire with the ability to continue attacking at the same time. We dont.

Really. Ranger is the only one? I’m pretty sure I can think of a pretty obvious one that other classes enjoy using as a ping pong ball.

Necros don’t just remove the boons though. We turn them into conditions.

Yeah I get that, I just feel like deathly swarm is so predictable the engi just needs to watch for it and it’s gg. I know plague signet and the staff 4 are still there and I don’t have much trouble landing those. Although burning that stun break is hard.

I love being a glowing green ping pong ball.

Hey sorry my post was a little confusing I really didn’t mean turret engis. I know how to kill them, or at least I know how to kill most of them. It’s the nade spamming and cc engis that I have trouble with as either terror in both setups and as a power necro. And honestly I have more luck as a spectral power necro against them than with the condi necro.

Guess I didn’t need to ask for your build yesterday lol, you are good though.

Managed to get a powermancer into top 100.. now every game I get into is hambows and engineers with the odd spirit ranger or staff ele thrown in. I have a new hatred for engineers. And it’s not eve the turret ones. I had to make an engineer yesterday just to figure out what the hell I’m supposed to do since I keep getting told necro directly counters engineer.

Not for nothing but I soloqed a bit yesterday and it was matching me with mostly all players that ranked in top 100 of soloq. Seemed to be working ok to me.

How do you deal with highly skilled engineers currently. If I use terror build I’m a kittening ping pong ball. If I use spectral power build I can last longer but he’s got so much cc I’m eventually going to die. If I use glass cannon I’m a ping pong ball made of glass.

I don’t mean kittenty engis, I mean the ones you run into that are at the top of soloq. I know I know they’re probably not pro either but they are absolutely what I have the most trouble with now and it’s driving me crazy because they all talk kitten saying how awful I am since according to them necro is a hard counter to engineers. Oh and its not turret engis. I have no problem with those.

No you keep the effects in fact after popping spectral armor your basically invuln in DS for a little while. Most of the build is just spacing out your dodges and stunbreaks while trying to maintain consisten LF regen. Burn your heal early and often especially before going into DS.

its not a dueling build. if you play it as a dueling build you will lose 1v1s. However. You can survive against most classes long enough for someone to come help you. You really cannot be alone with this build. You can take home point but someone will have to come help you eventually. But you really shouldnt be on home youve got enough swiftness that you should be moving mid to home. Now i know most of the time this isnt possible since as ive learned everyone always expects the necro to be home.

You need DS for this build to work. You swap to staff when you hit ds. Once they pull you out of DS your most likely riddled with conditions or on the ground…. You know what this build is pretty self explanatory…. Im not going to tell you anything that im doing that is something special… cuz im not. I pop a spectral go into DS hit 5 3 and spam 1. Save 4 for when LF is low and your enemy has used his knockdown or stun. Space out your stunbreaks Try hitting warhorn 5 before swapping to staff and going into DS….

Now that ive made it too the top 100 i can say without a doubt a powermancer will not cut it against very skilled players.

The immobilize thing has been happening to me a lot too. I am so fast at typing /dance now.

He’s not complaining about not being able to move he probably knows how to get out of it. He’s complaining that it’s even happening at all especially if it happens at an extremely bad time.

It’s not really similiar….. like at all…. yours is a ptv while taking increased fear and scepter as your main hand. And you don’t take the best trait for spectrals. But to each their own.

Just a note on the CC thing it’s not stupid to burn it. Alot of the time it’s pretty stupid not to burn it in case you don’t even get the chance too. Sometimes by using it early if your on a sustain build you get it back up and now you’ve been able to heal for double the amount rather than sitting on it too long where you only get half the healing.

It’s a little ridiculous that torment was originally supposed to be just for the necros. Now we only have access to it through one skill, a rune set, and a sigil.

Yeah I just realized your EU. I’m NA on Dragonbrand… so I don’t think we could duel anyway.

It would be cool if we were given tiers like other games, but do we really have the population for something like that?

Yeah I know what MMR was from playing sc2, I was more curious about gw2s mmr specifically. But thank you for the explanation.

Honestly I’m only using staff here for the marks and I try to change to staff before going into ds for the extra damage and I’m getting fury and deathly perception when I go into ds…. I guess I just don’t see the need for it.

Sure. I’m not really a duelist, and my build is meant for team fights.

What exactly is the mmr system?

In what way is a 3d computer game not as complicated as a kittening board game…….

For small group fighting it should be. Dagger war horn staff. If you don’t like the dagger you can go axe, but the lf gen is better with daggers. This build is tanky because of how much vitality and lf you have. Your gonna spend most of your time in ds spamming 1 wi th deathly perception reapers might and sigil of strength your getting 1 or 2 might every lifeblast use spectrals as your utilities along with BiP.

2/4/2/0/6 use Valkyrie strength runes sigils of strength and fire.

It would a better test for your build in soloq or teamq I think. The skill level of the players is usually better, not always mind you.

We should have more ways to put torment on someone to stop people from just kiting the kitten out of us and disengaging whenever the fight isn’t going there way.

Oooh a necro! I’m gonna kill this baddie. Oh kittentt maybe not. Welp see ya later necro!

In tpvp I use soldiers amulet. In wvw I use a weird knights, soldiers, zerker, and the weird valk/zerker mix trinkets. But I really don’t use this build for wvw much, I’m on dragon brand and roaming against sos and maguuma suckssssssz.

Honestly 2/4/2/0/6 necro using axe could probably have almost 100% retal uptime. I’ve actually modified the powermancer build I use to do this a couple times when I saw a kittenton of mesmers and theives.

Have you tried your build in soloq or teamq yet? If so how did it go?

20 seconds vigor on a necro. Every other classes worst kittening nightmare. Hethe I’m a necro you can’t hit hahajhahahhaja

Nothing will ever replicate the glory days of ultima online pvp. It was a magical run.

For roaming the might one works better. For tpvp mine works better. So many classes are using boon removal with the boon spam meta and might is going to one of your only boons and once it’s gone…. well the whole build is nerfed. So I took the traits I saw that would benefit me in ds and getting back into ds.

Yeah speed starr has nothing to do with soul eater. I was using the name in Ultima Online in like 1998.

I would say it’s subjective. I have more fun on my necro than any of my other classes

Can I has airplane wing for sword. Kk thx.

I know your not talking about tpvp specifically but you can’t switch your utils like that in it. So that would only effect wvw, hotjoins, and pve. Dont really see a problem with that. Lower cooldowns on spectrals? Yes plz.

The loss of power us noticeable vs hoelbrek or strength especially since I usually had someone to give me might when I was using those.

Yeah you can modify the build to deal a little more with condi if you need to, I just never seemed to have a problem with condi as long as I had cc, wop, staff4. And if your so loaded with condis just stay in ds for as long as you can and you’ll have cc back up most likely

They are not the most common class…. but there are people that have been able to play them at competitive levels.

Not for nothing but your analysis and criticism about spvp would hold more weight if your experience was not just hotjoins.

Even a little bit of healing through ds needs to be considered carefully, I think that’s why that gm trait they gave us is so kittenty. Necros would turn into monsters in wvw worse than they already are. They would have no problem stay Frontline the whole time if they can get healed in ds. Drop wells hit ds regen real hp a little until that ds is done by then people are probably dying and should fill up your lf very quickly.