Guild Wars 2

Alot of the time if I’m dying at far or mid I will tell whoever is at home if it’s uncontested to move mid so I can respawn and go home. But it’s entirely situational.

Wow that explains a lot actually lol for a while I was using generosity plague signet staff scepter dagger….

It is a different game mode. There are different armor sets, different rune sets, different sigils, food and a whole bunch of other stuff. I didn’t want to repeat myself a thousand times and that’s why I said I disagreed. Fighting people using different if only even slightly different may get you into bad habits and getting used to your opponents not Los ing is crazy especially as a necro it’s all people do against me once they figure out they can’t win.

My slamball vs basketball was right on. They are similiar but slamball is the juiced up version.

If you wanted to be good at ice hockey and you had 100% access to a rink you wouldn’t go play floor hockey now would you?

No one’s rotations are perfect even the best players in the game kitten up. No one’s engagements are perfect. Nobody is perfect. But telling someone who is asking help with tpvp to go wvw duel in my OPINION is not good advice.

None of those restrictions exist on the duel servers. They exist in weeklies and stuff like that. I’m not missing the point. I think you are. You are telling an experienced player to go play a different game mode with different variables in order to get better at tpvp. They are not the same. The builds are different. The runes are different. The sigils are different. There is food. There is oils, crystals, and stones. If I wanted to get better at basketball I wouldnt start playing kittening slamball.

@brandon I think even you know the flaws in training for tpvp matches in a wvw dueling place. Besides all the other stuff I said there’s no line of sighting it’s a giant open space which never kittening happens in tpvp. You and I both know dueling helps but it certainly isn’t everything sometimes on a necro all you need to be able to do against certain classes is just hold on. I say you continue to do what you’ve been doing. Play some other classes. Change builds see what works against what classes on what builds. Try tweaking small things from fight to fight to really fine tune what you should do against certain team comps.

About the comfort thing I get that sometimes too sometimes I think what happens to me is I see classes on the other team and assume oh they’re probably this then I run over to the kittening guardian and I’m like holy kitten holy kitten holy kitten not a bunker!

I don’t think it’s very reliable for tpvp. Would much rather have golem or lich.

Not really, I don’t want to turn this into a drawn out argument. If you’ve played both and are skilled at both it becomes pretty clear what the differences are builds, food, armor, sigils, runes.

As far as I can tell he is not really interested in progressing as a player other than in pvp for now. So telling a player he can get better at spvp/tpvp to change game modes where there are so many different things involving min maxing and whatnot doesn’t strike me as sound advice. He’s not inexperienced by any means so I don’t think wvw is the way I would go about training for tpvp.

Dueling servers work fine as long as people are fighting…. there are multiple spots on the maps to have a 1v1 or even 2v2s if you find some people down for it. Sure occasionally you get some scrubs that get rekted but they are trying to learn can’t fault them for that. I have no problem finding fights in the dueling servers. And sometimes even just watching them will give you a different perspective.

That being said I do both pvp and wvw and occasionally I try running my gvg build in spvp just for training.

I started uo when I was like 12. Also the original UO was great but saying AoS sucked is wrong was still an amazing game.

It’s not just mesmers and theives necros get it with staff 4, dagger 4, plague signet. And then even some of the stunbreaks.

I’m going to agree to really really disagree here.

Yeah… kitten changing my entire armor set, rather just change a wep or a util….

nm fod works /15

That would be fine…. but maybe nerf some of the boon happy kitten going on. Otherwise you are really just nerfing the living kitten out of the only niche necro really has for pvp.

Obs isn’t the way to practice for pvp. The players and builds are different and you will always get conflicting opinions here but in general I’ve always found the players in pvp dueling servers to be heads and tails above the ones you will find in obs.

SoS. /fifteencharacters

Your going to get all sorts of answers here and everyone’s entitled to their opinion but a well bombing necro is the best for a wvw zerg or even in group fights. Condi dire terrormancer with perplexity runes are amazing for 1v1s and roaming.

You can play it in a zerg too as your extremely tanky but I power is going to have higher dps.

Never tried a ranger but it looks like they might get buffed in the next few months or so.

It would work fine if decay was perma, if those players are truly good they would work their way back up pretty quickly. If they’ve taken a break they should have to fight scrubs for a bit to get back up.

Huh I’ve only ever noticed it fearing when I am stomped never noticed it working when I get downed….

I only use fear of death on failhammer. It’s quite entertaining to get ganked in the hammer only to watch them fall off. The rage is real.

Also it doesn’t proc when you go into downed state, procs when your finished.

So instead of seeing a little variety of theives they will now all be s/d.

Disagree with what…. didn’t say I wouldn’t take it…. just that it won’t help against a certain ridiculous build that will be nerfed in due time…. I wouldn’t mind having the reveal to use against mesmers….. not as a mesmer as this is the necro subforum.

Chill is cc that is condition. Immobilize is a condition that is cc.

Terror has already been toned down, it does not need any further nerfs considering the trait that got it nerfed is no longer the same.

6 seconds revealed won’t help us much against the only build theives have that is truly a problem, but I wouldn’t mind having it for mesmers.

Axe already has boon removal

Show them what a real necro can do.

Both are right.

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100% underwater esport map coming soon.

Least people would want necros!

Speed, flock and centaur are all viable on certain builds but not the best.

Yeah I would like it to be faster or at least the projectile to be almost instant hit. If you did make the casting itself faster reapers might would get op very quickly…. might make up for our lack of blast finishers though.

If they let our siphons heals and all that other stuff work through ds they would have to nerf the living hell out of vamp traits, transfusion, parasitic contagion vamp food leech sigils, vamp runes. Could you imagine a carrion or rampagers necro with parasitic contagion and all vamp traits. God kitten . Yeah do it. Now.

If your playing from the perimeter then I guess you can go full zerk. I rotate frontline and periphery.

Alot of this depends on what server your doing this on. I dare you to try large group fights in zerker on a t1-2 server.

Do something like champ spawns from Ultima online. Those reinvigorated a dying pvp community for quite some time, also gave PvE players a reason to need pvpers. As it currently is its most likely a pvp player gets stuck doing pve for certain items.

Basic idea is there were multiple champion bosses that dropped power scrolls most of them took a few people to kill them although a few were able to be solo’d. A group of people would have to go into a certain dungeon we would just use some sort of large instance or an existing dungeon or any of the pve maps. You would have to kill mobs to level up the spawn. Eventually the champ pops up and you kill it for what we’re power scrolls in UO, here I would assume we would use some sort of equivalent or ascended ingredients or drops or higher chance for precursors or whatever figure it out. But the real fun is how the loot would work in the pvp zone. Any of the loot obtained in the p p zone for this current instance will he loot able, including the new shiniez you get from this boss, also this style of pvp will not allow people just to run indefinitely as you will lose the champ.

This couldn’t be some sort of wvw thing so I’m not sure how they would do the teams or targeting or whatever.

Really the biggest issue I see in doing this with this game is the AoE cap. In UO a group of highly skilled players could mow down zergs due to lack of aoe cap. Was very common to have groups of 10 beating 40. ViP! SX HaX !C!

Was he even targeting you half the time jesus. None of his staff autos hit you ever and you really weren’t even dodging them, none of his lich attacks hit you and I only really saw you dodge that once. Also can’t read anything in that chat for some reason, very very blurry for me.

Typically people only post videos of themselves either doing things perfectly or in a perfect situation. I think it’s to avoid criticism. And you will be less likely to view this persons videos anymore when you see mistakes they make more often .

If you really wanted you can watch streams of top necros in tpvp matches for some more interesting gameplay than being in the perfect spot in the perfect time and dropping people in 5 seconds.

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Whether NA is worse or not EU like every other kittening game I have ever played will always claim superiority. It’s hysterical.

In wow the top tier US teams where/are a bit better than the EU ones. Common known fact which most of us EU players never denied.

AoM/AoT, the game i played competetively before that had a couple (south) americans that where the best players on the ladder.

So i have nfc where that random statement comes from.

Yeah my bad I forgot those were the only games ever.

Whether NA is worse or not EU like every other kittening game I have ever played will always claim superiority. It’s hysterical.

Lol at every pvp post eventually turning into NA sucks.

I suggest not listening to anyone that tells you to allocate trait points for stats. But either way that POWER line is also condition duration. I’m guessing your using dhuum terror and that’s about as good as it gets for a roaming necro. Also I think it may help to run either a dire carrion mix or a dire rabid mix. Perplexity runes are pretty cool too if your having trouble in 1v1z.

Hahahahahahhahahahah

Just saying there is an abusive build as a necro for spirit watch

It’s the friends thing. Same stuff happened to me in Ultima Online. The best players tend to gravitate towards each other and sometimes even the people that weren’t quite as good play with them sometimes and end up becoming better players. Winning at a high level with a good group of people is quite fun.

Then you get people saying kitten like it’s not fair why don’t you guys play with someone else instead of all banding together….. if you be that guy your painting a target for them on your back and it just looks like that guy is just mad.

Coming from Ultima Online this would be amazing.

Not to mention the only way to cast that stupid thing is to trait fitg flash ds and then cast it.

Also the title is a bit misleading. Says tpvp. Then your post says owns in spvp. Slight difference… .

DS nerfed to no longer absorb killshots. Staff 4 nerfed or fixed either way. Dhuumfire added so nerf bleeds and terror. Nerf dhuumfire to require lifeforce but don’t revert back the bleed and terror damage. minion damage nerf and vamp nerf.

2 ways of getting stability for necro is wop and fitg that you need to go 30 into Sr for a few seconds which is difficult to justify taking in a powerbuild let alone trying to take it in a condi build. We have 1 escape in the flesh wurm and it takes forever to cast and even if you precast it and the team your fighting knows you use it and happens to see it and kill it your down a stunbreak and your only disengage. We have 1 way to get vigor and it’s wop so we are almost always forced to take double energy sigils or eat dirt. We have no blocks, invulns, or evades making us a perfect target for immob spam and focus fire. If you want to count SA+DS as invuln I’d consider it but your still getting hit with condis through it. Combine the fact that most of our abilities and weapon skills have long cast times with the FACT we are extremely susceptible to CC it can be difficult at times to land our skills.

All of this in mind I don’t think necros are weak and maybe having all those weaknesses and still being strong is why some people don’t like the necro.

I was using rabid for a while thinking the toughness and the precision were worth it, not I’m seeing if your playing a terrormancer your best bet is going with the carrion in either dhuum or PoC versions it at least makes your life blasts and autoattacks and ds 4 not completely useless. Yeah your a little more vulnerable to theives but I think a terrormancer has enough to deal with most theives. The only reason to take rabid is for crit procs… but I just don’t think bleeds are enough of a reason. I’d rather hit a little harder with each attack and all your condi burst is really coming from terror anyway.

Well, I’m not saying we are the most over nerfed but seriously since the game came out what buff have we really got? And I don’t just mean bug fixes. Everything’s been a nerf. So you want to remove a skill that prevents the class that is the easiest to be cced. So just kitten necros right they should have to take 3 stunbreaks on every build or have to trait for fitg to be useful right? If we do either of those we become kittening useless. Utterly useless. If anything necros are extremely balanced and a bunch of other classes have to much access to invulns blocks evades.

Reapers protection doesn’t do damage all in one trait you’d need to spec for it to do damage. I do refuse to play a terrormancer without it anymore though. Terror and condi builds have abysmal lf generation so some form of cc protection is a must. Seriously thought I don’t know how anyone wants necro nerfs, we have been continuously nerfed since the game came out with the exception of dhuumfire which got our terror and bleeds nerfed and then dhuum got semi nerfed. Oh and I forgot I guess you could call fixing our downed state to not have 1/3rd the health we were suppose to is a buff I guess.

Since I’m an inexperienced mesmer and when I tried to play one I was using blink, portal and decoy along with gs, Staff I’m curious to what the experienced top mesmers are using if it’s not using illusions and phantasms.

Biggest issues I had with using one were when someone was finally able to lock me down they could burst me but being able to disengage was nice coming from a necro.

Oh and I don’t mean to compare a mesmer to the ridiculousness of a turret engi.

I get that mesmers aren’t just summoning pets all the time and I understand your an experienced pvp mesmer but it’s difficult to argue a mesmer doesn’t use ai. You have actives you use in conjunction with the ai but it’s not like you aim the illusions and phantasm yourself.

I’d rather be an ele and use one spec and still kill everyone. That’s why other classes are better in tpvp. Sure as a necro you spec to specifically kill one class. Meanwhile we have eles, guardians, engineers, and theives that can kill all classes on 1 or 2 specs…. I wonder why most of the best teams are made up completely of those 4 classes…..

Also I don’t think we are that insane in 1v1s I’m willing to bet the best duelists in this game are not necros