@Rising Dusk and Novaan:
You apparently didn’t understand my post since you went right to the LTP stance. My advice is learn to read. This raid should be based on skill not elite snobbery so only a select few can brag and tell others to learn to play.
I noticed Novaan said there are many class comps but fails to mention that Rangers are booted immediately. Part of the reason I mentioned how screwed up it was that ranger can ONLY be a healer druid now that the “meta” is set. Rangers need no apply because ANeT saw to it that we don’t have the DPS needed thanks to the way the raid is set up.
I adjusted my build for the raids, I just wasn’t a healer I played a condi druid/ranger. Utilized several of the druid utility skills to aid in this(knocking away energy balls and such). I have all ascended and even made an entire set of new ascended(Vipers) along with trinkets to get a build that would help win. Gets expensive, but I bit the bullet and made or purchased everything necessary. I was almost always where I was supposed to be when needed(green circle duty and on the condi sub-boss I was assigned to.) Occasional hick-ups happen. I know the mechanics very well. My game play is very high – you just don’t know anything about me or other players who honestly try their best to succeed. Instead, you make assumptions and look down you nose at players who are trying to point out the flaws in the “raid’s” design. Not to mention the devs lack of vision when creating an elite that places a class into a niche that other classes are not forced to do. A zerker warrior can still be a zerker warrior and not have to adjust his play type. A tank and still be a tank and not adjust his play style. But you suggest, no DEMAND, that a ranger MUST play a druid healer to play in your elitist reindeer games.
Sorry, you miss the point and intent of my post.
note: I’ve never played anything with Nomad settings. I’m also one of the top 1000 players in the game.
That’s not true. Raids are very much so about skill, you can clear them in a squad running full on exotics and there’s been boss kills with less than 10 people, which is proof enough that you do not need full ascended in order to get through; it merely helps, as it should be.
We never run full healer druids in our groups. They’re either Berserker or Viper’s setup; the heal they give out by default is enough and in the end it’s more about keeping GotL up; add the other kinds of support to that and you’re good. Condi Druid also has pretty reasonable dps.
Besides, almost every class is using their elite spec because it enhances the class much more than a third normal spec could; for the ranger it just so happens to be even more support.
What you mention here is not a flaw of raid design, it’s a flaw of player thinking. Don’t blame the raids for this, blame the people who think a ranger can only be a healing bot with no dps whatsoever and should camp staff/celestial 24/7 while running full zealot/cleric. Also, if a squad really needs a druid to heal them permanently just to keep them from dying, that’s usually a bad sign.
If you’re good at the raid that’s great, however your post simply made it sound different.
As for “some classes deal more damage than others and thus those with less dps are left out”; A good part of every raid squad consists of classes which don’t necessarily have the highest dps, but instead are there to boost everyone’s dps in whatever way they can.
Other than that it’s pretty much what perry said.
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