Guild Wars 2

I get it, you gotta do it but, do you think you could maybe add a disclaimer like “were working on Divinity’s Reach atm so please move your characters out until we are done”.
I’m not overly happy that everyone of my toons with the exception of 1 are in DR and I cannot access any of them except the one low level that is outside of DR.

Pretty kitten right now considering I just found people to do the dungeon I’ve been trying to get in on all week and now can’t access a single 80. My patience with Anet is wearing extremely thin.

/Rant off

I don’t think it was a mistake, however I do think it was ignorant to presume that people do not want to play them. Any class is suppose to be able to preform any role right ? We can tank, we can dps, but with the acception of a couple classes (and even those are lack luster at heals) there is no way to play heals which is dissapointing to many.

I love the game but with no dedicated healing class I’m getting bored fast its what I enjoy playing and I’m a little miffed that Anet decided that people don’t want to play dedicated heals.

Oh and fix whatever you broke with your maintenance please, it would be great if I could log on to ANY character that happens to be in DR without getting booted on log in.

Communication is key to any MMO, look at SWtoR, the lack of communication was one of the number 1 killers.

earendil.1290:

GW2 is a game with a specific “core principle”: everyone has to feel included, equal. No griefing, no exclusion no “L2P n00b”. No required builds, no “item/skill check before we go in”. That’s how it is in PvE – that’s how it is in WvW.

That’s why WvW is NOT (and I keep repeating in) intended for competitive PvP players or guilds. WvW is intended for the casual PvXer that goes into the borderlands out of boredom and wants to join a fight. These PvXers are their main target public – you are calling them “mindless idiots”. Tough luck.

The current form of WvW is not made for you. Every move they made in WvW was clearly intended to make it funnier and easier for the “mindless idiots” you are bashing. They might add some form of “competitive large scale PvP” later in the year but meanwhile you’ll have to cope with it.

Unless you work for Anet and helped design WvW do not tell us what is not intended. SPvP is not hardcore either … you fight equal numbers and 1/2 of it is not even fighting as much as running around capping nodes. WvW you can fight 5 vs. 20, 10 vs. 30, and so on, I would think that would be alot more hardcore then fighting over 3 nodes. So answer me this, if it is not intended for Competitive PvP then wtf is there a ranking system ? Why give us points ? Why must there be a winner ? Why must someone lose ? All of that mentioned IS competitive.

Considering AR was fighting two very large forces from both servers on reset, you shouldn’t whine about double teams. Last week we dealt with it all week, stop your kittening, its not like we have planned it out and both servers decided to work together.

BP has no problem giving the same treatment but GOD FORBID it happens to you.

Get over yourselves.

So have a couple friends who were interested in running some FotM or Dungeons, the issue is, our server has no one ever doing any of the above. Were looking for highly active servers for Dungeon runs and or FotM runs to guest on.

NA Servers pls.

Nope was human.

The OS ranger at SW camp on ARBL just now, you were reported and SS sent in. Don’t be a lil kitten and use the spot, especially when your only fighting 1 person.

Just kittening sad.

Hate the new culling. It was crap the first time and its crap this time.

You, can’t use Millenium as a gauge for the next match up. Anet stated they were tweeking the glicko system, so what you see there atm is probably not going to be the actual match ups.

Not sure which is making me want to transfer more, the free loot bags or that amazing song!

Or …. or, you could stop letting DH make you their kittenes.

Thats right, I went there!

Masamoon.3864:

Just cause anyone can buy one, doesn’t mean they’ll be followed. Most servers have large WvW guilds, and even people not part of said guilds, normally follow said commanders. If someone wants to waste 100g on a commander book for the sake of doing so, then let them.

This, I have a tag but never use it. I purchased it for when a commander DC’s, or needs someone to take a grp to run supplies or something along those lines. I have no real intention (currently) of ever turning it on in WvW unless its a last resort. I don’t think I would be a good commander but its good to have for emergencies.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Nuzt.7894:

BP (as they are)or NSP (with a bit higher pop) and GoM (again with a bit higher pop)

If all 3 contenders had they same pop I would have to say the old AR/BP/GoM matchup.

I’ll second the AR/BP/GoM match-up. I’m long overdue for making another Smash video and I’ll need two scrub servers to film battles against.

Oh no you didn’t !

Bike racks, noon !

Its not used solely for WvW, I see commander tags in Orr all the time.

1) You are an enemy
2) Its a PvP zone
3) Your an Elementalist
4) Your taking up space to do JP’s
5) War is not fair
6) If you want to venture into WvW learn to fight multiples
7) Is this thread for real ?

Toble.2968:

imalog.7689:

Kubb.9764:

imalog.7689:

Kubb.9764:

imalog.7689:

Kubb.9764:

congrats man. that was funny lmfao. sadly, zerging around takes no skill even naked.

i’m currently baffled on how we ever wipe with armor on.

ALS? lmfao good one. as I said before. it was hilarious to see that naked army stroll the naked mile around SM.

was going to just clear the walls again until i realized BP was busy with their own tower. Maybe NSP should try fighting together, you let paxa get into your heads about how wvw is meant to be 5v5.. its ruining your scores.

how can you say its paxa? ive never even talked to those guys. I transferred to nsp a week ago. as far as I can tell. NSP does not give up

i’ll give them that, they do relentlessly try to get SM all day on eternal… Don’t think we don’t see the constant X on north gate. We really are cheering for you to get inside though.

AR usually doesn’t own SM.

Usually it’s Borlis.

I have a fun time noticing all the forum warriors here while I’m at work.

1. Small groups from NSP with big egos. (Silly Paxa, Campflip plix.)

2. ALS people who run in zergs saying LOL bads and flaming NSP as well as attempting to trash talk Borlis.

3. Borlis Saying Meh, hey guys we own SM, cheers.

I must say, by far I like Borils much nicer than AR. The sportsmanship is fun, witty and jolly, while AR is full of angst and fuming hatred that is trying to be portrayed as funny.

I like GOAT, they are fun. I like them the most out of all the guilds we’ve been matched up with lately.

As a NSP player, you will never understand why some of that hate exists. As far as the hate towards BP, we have fought against BP many times, more so then NSP. Alot of it was pretty heated as AR was outnumbered everytime and had BP rubbing their wins in our faces. Yet all those wins they constantly claimed it was due to skill and that they did not outnumber us. That is where that animosity stems from, it was in the past and BP is not the same BP they were then, I actually quite like the new BP. I think it was somewhere in this thread that a BP said “AR the server we love to hate” and many in AR feel the same way. Its not to be taken to seriously, we may act as if we hate each other but deep down I think we appreciate one another more then we let on.

As for hating NSP, I’m not really sure where this comes from, NSP imo has always been a fun group of people. Ya PAXA comes and talks some smack, but who doesn’t ? I think the PAXA guys keep it entertaining tbh.

In the end, I’m sure there is some people that do hate for whatever reason but most of it is just your typical smack talk between old enemies. I for one have alot of respect for both BP and NSP.

Think how boring these threads would be if we were all proclaiming our love for one another and giving out group hugs …. I’m sure I speak for many on all three servers when I say that would make me puke.

Khanswrath.1032:

Attic.1562:

JaironKalach.4938:

Aeneasx.1589:

JaironKalach.4938:

Aeneasx.1589:

Most people shoot down this DAoC stuff without taking into consideration that they might just like it too.

God forbid people want to make guild wars a better game by looking at “the game” that laid some of the best frame work in the genre.

Yeah, but I already know I enjoy WvWvW as is. So why would any sane person risk losing something they enjoy in order to try out something different, because it would make someone they’ve never met happier?

Obviously that “best frame work” is a subjective assessment based on how you enjoy playing a game. Right now, in my limited experience, GW2 has the “best frame work.” My opinion in this matter and yours are equally valid.

Because almost everyone who is good in PvP and doesn’t foolishly Zerg around is leaving the game?

Okay… So I should want to change the game to accommodate a bunch of players who don’t enjoy the game as is, when I do, so that I keep more of those people around, at the expense of potentially not being able to enjoy it myself, and losing the people like myself who enjoy it as is?

You should if the number of people who also like what you like isn’t big enough to be largely self-sustaining. At least then you have a chance to still enjoy it. Otherwise it’ll all fall to pieces real quick.

I have to disagree. I just don’t see the die hard PvP player spending $$$ on gems to customize his/her character. That individual doesn’t give a kitten about BLSK’s, keys, minipets or gold tbh. Yet that player expects the game to cater to his/her desires just as equally as the PvE player. WvW is casual PvP plain and simple. Wanting to make it more hardcore will only cause the casual player to avoid it like the plague. Anet needs to potentially rethink and possibly implement their GvG formats they had in GW1. A different area to PvP with a more hardcore mindset is where they need to focus in future updates. Bending WvW out of it’s current state will only discourage both sides from playing it and open up more complaints.

I have spent quite a bit on gems, and I mainly WvW. I think hardcore is the wrong term, making all play styles viable is not hardcore, its smart business practice. Right now Anets mistake is catering to one type of play style in WvW. I don’t mind zerg, I am not so ignorant to believe they should not be allowed to play that way, I even partake in zerging. I don’t see how it would hurt the game to enlarge an spread things out a bit more, you would still need and have zergs, but the other play styles might have a chance at helping their server in a more tactical way.

I don’t agree that people who zerg suck, all play styles are viable. To make all play styles viable is the answer.

Take any battle, Scouts have a purpose, small tactical teams have a purpose, mid size forces have a purpose, and of course large scale forces have a purpose.

Having every keep, tower and camp within spitting distance from one another hinders all but zerg warfare. Maps need to be enlarged so people actually have to make decisions and use tactics.

Many people have said it and I believe it is one of the largest issues, its far to easy for a large force to move from point to point in no time to allow for any tactical attacks. The game should be great for all not just some, regardless of what play style we each like.

I wouldn’t say it didn’t get support because the game failed, its 12 years old … it would be hard for any game (especially one governed by EA for the last few years) that is that old to get support.

The game would basically need to be remade.

It would be no different then expecting UO to get full support, both games were great, but they are ancient in terms of MMO’s now.

Your reddit post has a much different tone then this post, that may be the problem.

Some good ideas in there.

As much as I loved DAoC and small manning back in the day. This isn’t DAoC, why would they copy it ? Sure borrow some of the good but its silly to think they would carbon copy. I’m also pretty sure They won’t respond to you demanding a response.

Theres plenty of threads outlining what people would like to see to help enhance more then just zerg warfare, I’m sure they have read them, I’m sure they have also taken some of it into consideration. Whether they implement it or not is another story.

Lets wait and see what this mystery patch has for WvW first.

Besides if they did copy DAoC, you can say goodbye to your multiple vanish class. Just saying.

I was running around solo attacking OS and basically whoever I ran across regardless of numbers lastnight due to boredom. Please don’t banish me from guild/server I know I’m not suppose to do anything but zerg, its just …. I was lonely.

Oh and OS, when I’m fighting (I wanna say at least eight) of you while your doing the break out, its extremely rude to use an entangle on me. I died inside a little.

Thresher.3049:

Nuzt.7894:

DAoC ram races anyone … anyone ?

yep… been there, done that :o
(Some nights where slower than others in wvw)

We also need to be able to load Asura into trebs and catapults.

Yes, Asura siege balls needs to be implemented right away.

DAoC ram races anyone … anyone ?

BP (as they are)or NSP (with a bit higher pop) and GoM (again with a bit higher pop)

If all 3 contenders had they same pop I would have to say the old AR/BP/GoM matchup.

Cleric>Apothecary for his build, the reason is, Apothecary has no power, just condition. So while Apothecary would increase your burns, your weapon attack damage would be pretty poor. As far as healing and toughness, both armor will be equal, so I guess you could use Apothecary, the only thing that would suffer is your damage.

I’m a bit confused about the precision you mention, Apothecary does not have precision.

Solid build, tested it out (just salvaged my cleric set the day before I saw the thread and had to craft a new set …) and am very happy with its performance. I actually like the lower health pool, its pretty depressing when you hit your heal and only see 1/4 of your health bar filled when your sporting higher vit. Only issue is, I have no monk runes, using dwayna for the time being, unless there a better suggestion.

Ty for sharing, been looking for a build like this.

Golem/Tank … I wouldn’t care if they were there, but as it is if anything was stronger then a golem, there would be zero point to upgrade. As long as they are in line with other siege then meh.

Dervish … oh wait.

Staff Ele.

I would say, have fun with it regardless of level. Do not be afraid to attack an 80, they will probably kill you but, even upscaled players can take down an 80. Lets face it, just because your 80 with gear does not mean your good.

Fighting an uphill battle sub 80 against an 80 will force you to learn little tricks, when to dodge, when to use abilities ect ect. To many sub 80’s are under the belief that they have zero chance, and while odds are certainly not in your favor, it is possible and does happen. Once you hit 30 you should be able to have enough utilities skill to fill your bar, including 1 elite.

I leveled 1 character in WvW alone and never ran away screaming when I came face to face with an 80, in fact I was surprised at my success rate.

Now if your looking to level, zerg surfing is the way to go. Keep/Tower/Camp takes all provide XP and Karma so take advantage even if its not your play style. As far as the Mists, thats a completely different beast in itself, I’m sure some people here can help you with it a bit but you would be better off asking about the Mists in the SPvP forum.

Rob.7624:

Nausicca.6038:

Evilzara.6378:

Underpopulated? Shortly after I took it I see a zerg of 40-50 NSP trying to take it back.

I didn’t know we had so many players in WvW. Are you sure it wasn’t 10 mesmers and 30 clones?

Other servers always exaggerate numbers.
Sitting Commanding and all of a sudden I get a report of 30 strong Anvil Zerg smashing into Anz.
We drop everything and rush their to try and defend it.

We finally get there and look around.
There are 10 up-lvl’ed Anvil Rock and 1 ram slowly tapping the gate with the nub inside going, “ERMAHGERD WE’RE GUNNA DIE”.
Makes everyone facepalm.

I can’t say I’ve ever seen a 50man zerg in WvW ever.
But then again, I’ve only been to one reset and I run the night shift.

But still.
50people?
Reeeeaaaaaallllyyyyyy??

Maybe if every single person from every map was in one place at the exact same time.

I have seen it, it was called Kaineng. But I have to agree that is the only time I can honestly say 50+.

Yes & No, I’m looking forward to having a purpose for WvW, whether it be Ranks, titles, abilities, or just new things to do. If the patch sucks, I will continue to play but will certainly be dissapointed.

Since DAoC, I’ve searched for a game that is somewhat the same game style, I finally found what I think will be the closest thing we may ever see, in GW2. So no I won’t quit.

Did this on a Mesmer, was alot of fun, and wasn’t frustrating at all. Actually the only frustrating part was hiding in a keep successfully only to realise, you have no portal yet.

Its a great Idea, I really like it, however I gotta go with Dokyo on this one. Just wouldn’t be fun for many of us in the lower tiers trying to fight Tier 1-3 servers.

But as I said, kudo’s on the idea.

And this is why it will never happen, unwilling to comprimise. The reason is a moot point, with no bearing. Give a little, get a little. They won’t give you unlimited AoE cap, just accept that.

A comprimise wouldn’t be bad, a small man wiping a zerg with little effort and no cap on AoE would be silly. I’ve played games like this and its rediculous, however, 5 people is to low. I would think 10 people cap would be a happy medium. Its gives small mans a little more bang for their buck, but doesn’t allow for zerg to be wiped by 1 Ele.

Good idea but flawed, here is few reasons why.

In lower tiers its common for one server to have a much lower WvW population, and the other two still do not have a Que. So now your suggesting those other two already low population servers should have to wait in Que, because the one server doesn’t put any effort into getting people into WvW. At this point, your hurting the lower tiers even more so then they already are.

Next you have the people who give up, they were there on reset but for whatever reason they weren’t first place, so they quit for the week, leaving their population smaller. The other two servers get punished for this.

The ranking system, we all know its flawed but how would those lower tiers move up with 50 people only on a map ? It wouldn’t happen they would be stuck in that tier forever.

Now lets look at the free transfers to lower pop servers, hello Kaineng, remember them ? You know the server that has destroyed balance as we know it on their way to the top. This idea, i do not agree with at all, zero, zip, no thankyou.

I don’t think your idea was bad, but there is to many scenario’s that would hurt game play using it. You can not punish servers in a tier because of one servers lack of paticipation.

Do I have a better Idea ?

Not really, I do however think servers like Kain should be jumping multiple tiers based on performance, while other servers should be dropping multiple tiers based on performance. I can’t offer any idea how to gauge this, but I’m sure someone could.

This was not meant to insult. I know I for one would quit WvW if I had to wait in Que with only 50 ppl in WvW based on another servers participation.

Or they could simply add what I suggested, but ty for your helpful and informative post. I’m glad we have people like yourself to remind us all that internet toughguys despite popular belief really are pathetic.

So after grouping with a friend that is fairly new to the game, a couple of us decided we would make a night of doing his personal story. Its soon became extremely frustrating as he does not have a great deal of the map uncovered and his knowledge of zones is next to none. Him trying to lead us to his quests was painful, and we couldn’t really help considering we cannot see where he has to go.

Could it not be possible to allow people in your immediate group to be able to see you story marker on the map so your group mates could help you locate and complete these quests ? Its not a question of quest difficulty as he could solo the quests, but if people want to group up for the sake of playing with friends, I think this would be a nice touch to the game.

Page 2 of WvW Forums ? That will not do.

Time will tell.

AR the server that doesn’t quit. If your to stubborn to give up then AR is your home.

There’s been transfers here and there but it hasn’t seemed to effect much, still possibly the most balanced tier currently. I’m sure all three servers hope it continues.

It suck but what can you do, its 100% Anets fault for being so ignorant that they didn’t see a scenario like this coming 100 miles away. E-Sport ? Ya not likely any time soon if this is how things are ran. I just hope they don’t completely kitten the system when they get to T1, wouldn’t that make for a great game … Your highest Tier with zero comp, not saying the T1 servers can’t handle them, in fact I’m hoping they can for the sake of the WvW community.

Allowing free transfers beyond the first month was a major kitten up on Anets part.

BP – 46,250
AR – 41,125
NSP – 38,864

Clearly, its the Engineer.

It seems touchy, while some classes are underwhelming in WvW like the Necro, it seems they are one of the more popular classes for SPvP. So to answer your question, no we do not have perfect balance for WvW, but if they tweak things the wrong way, they break the class for a diff part of the game.

I mainly play WvW, I also realise whats good for WvW may hurt SPvP or PvE, its a delicate balance that I’m sure they are constantly trying to improve.

So, BP yet again gets transfers … not your fault guys but it gets old.

@Burn … pathetic, DR failing so you jump ship …
@Thug … Maybe a new guild or maybe a transfer, either way they seem bad but numbers help
@ the third random new guild … I will insult you as soon as I remember who you are.

All smacktalk aside, it was a nice matchup. Within 1 night guilds like burn who rode the train then hit the brick wall jump ship and kitten up our nicely balanced bracket. Oh well it was a crap shoot and many were hoping we would avoid the transfers.

If this sways things drastically over the next day, we all know why. What a kittenty night, we lose a guild and get hit with 3 new ones.

Sad face.

Dark Aidget.3879:

I’m sorry, did I read that right? AR’s TCMM transfered to NSP?

Some not all. Many stayed on AR, GL with the new alliance <<< meant for NSP