Guild Wars 2

to the OP

1. I like your range suggestions almost completely, even the crit chance idea. I have no idea why longbows and shortbows have the same range in this game. You shouldn’t have to “trait” for better range than a shortbow…it’s a longbow for cryin out loud. However, you should have to trait for increased range in general. Your numbers for that above are perfect imo.

Unfortunately, ANet would probably frown upon only one class having that range though. They would have a valid point if it weren’t for two factors:

a) Ranger base damage is already nerfed some because of their pets

b) The 30% arrow speed increase patch update we got would still not be as much of a factor with increased range. You can still sidestep(not dodge-roll) arrows at max range right now. Giving peeps more time(because of the distance) to avoid being hit seems fair enough. Besides…we’re supposed to be the distance damage dealers here, right folks?

The only part I disagree with is changing the ranged tiered-damage values. If they gave us more range and better crit chances, we should probably have something to balance that out. Keep this part the same.

2. Rapid fire could use a little buff somewhere. A stack of vulnerability per hit would be cool if …

3. …you change Hunter’s Shot to apply a good bleed instead. As it stands now, LB’s don’t do any condition damage to speak of. It would be nice to have at least one damage-dealing condition on it.

4. No real change…maybe a 10% dmg buff. Although if LB range was increased, some of the values might need adjusting.

5. Barrage is fine

Jahn.7019:

Pretty solid server from what I can tell.

They just need more oceanics.

^ wurd

On a side note, any BG see my little fort I built at our north Orb alter, right above the north supply camp, in SoR BL last night? We got a kick out of watching 30+ BG stomp through my flame ram barricades on the ramps while we tried to ballista ya’ll to death.

Good times.

Lanthrudar.1437:

covenn.7165:

Lanthrudar.1437:

Dao.8156:

BG still holding strong for as late as it is.

Not sure what SoR is doing. Playing for second place perhaps? Dunno, the strategy does not make much sense to me. It seems SoR has a chance at first if they push BG down during their off hours.

Looks like SoR is content in trying to play for second and keep TC down. And this when BG has almost double the score of TC and SoR already have…

A hint for all the SoR folks.. Why exactly are you continually not hitting on BG when they are so far ahead? You’re making it easy on them by antagonizing your potential partners and letting BG bend us both over.

This isn’t what is happening. Unfortunately your perspective gets skewed when the only person responding to your actions in game is SoR. I guarantee you SoR spends as much time fighting BG as they do TC.

Point being, why? Take the effort you’re expending against TC and use it against BG and what happens? BG goes down. Sor, by fighting against TC when we’re both down almost 1/2 in points against BG, guarantee’s that BG will win again.

So yes, in essence, SoR is fighting for second place because the only way they stand a chance to close the gap on BG and actually win, is to not fight the only other group that is also fighting BG.

I guess if SoR is happy with always being the brides-maid and never the bride they can keep right on doing what they are now.

Ha, that’s so not true. I can tell you for a fact that on SoR BL we don’t play favorites. If anything we usually go for BG since they are the bigger threat and have more players on the field usually. We know we can’t beat them in score since our morning numbers are soooo low, so we try to make life as hard as we can for them.

Incidentally, we tried leaving TC relatively alone on our BL the other day. You had your BL all red so we saw no problem holding Bay and Redbriar and focusing on slamming our heads against Hills all night. And what happens? You golem rush our fully upgraded Bay when we were busy at Hills. We didn’t forget that little cheap shot by the way.

I always respected IoJ…they were tenacious given their numbers. However, TC seems to be a lot more technical oriented than IoJ was. They like to defend stuff…wuuuuuuutt?? Kudo’s to TC’s siege tactics and organization.

Obsi

p.s. I’ll be bumping this post onto first page for a loooooong time.

Heya Elrenia…well I would be remiss to my guild if I didn’t mention them. Besides, since you mentioned the meaningfulness of the server name I thought I should point out the guild that the name “Rall” came from:

Gaiscioch [GSCH]

It’s 5:00 now and clobberin’ time so I’m out…

…and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Obsi

Oh dang! lol

I edited it…see this is what happens when you stay up all night, basic math skills go to pot.

Personally, I just think there should be a minimum timer on it. Having the Breakout Event pop 3 times in an hour on the same tower is silly.

Jakob, what are your in-game names btw?

*stabs TC recruitment post in the kidney…

tee hee

Glad to have you both, Jakob. :]

Us:
-strong community
-competitive players
-free server-wide teamspeak
-currently a Tier 2 server(5th place overall)
-western hemisphere biased (NA mostly)
-hot chicks on ts…or so they say (they have sezy voices at least :P)
-likes jokes…lots of witty, sarcastic, sometimes inappropriate jokes
- hungry… *see below

You:
-competitive and fun
-teamwork a must
- Eastern Hemisphere …meaning Europe, Africa, Middle East, Asia, Australia…just about everyone else lol (Spain and Ireland you’re welcome here too ofc)
-honest & fair PvP values…no hackers or exploiters please
-willing to laugh at our stupid jokes
-likes getting fully upgraded towers/keeps handed to them when they log on (seriously)

What I mean by “hungry” is simply that we are getting tired of having our lackluster early morning presence cause us to have all our maps flipped away from us by the time we log back on in the afternoon here. We want our hard work and dedication to matter; and even though we kick kitten in our primetime, we just don’t have morning numbers(our morning—your afternoon/evening). It’s depressing, and some of us might be shaving years off our lives with all the gallons of coffee we are drinking to stay up late. :P A lot of us are WvW junkies and I for one would be eternally grateful and welcoming to any of you willing to join our awesome server.

Btw, we have a very strong PvE crowd here too, as well as some RPG’ers and sPvP’ers. We offer a lot for everyone.

~note: We also have a site on zee interwebz: http://www.sanctumofrall.com/

Thank you for your time, hope to hear from ya’ll soon.

Obsi

ChillyChinaman.6057:

Obsidian.1328:

I use Melandru’s runeset. I have noticed a slight improvement in my survivability, I only wish the cond/stun duration reduction applied to immobilize too. :P

Wait isn’t immobilized a condition? Why isn’t it affected by the condition duration reduction?

Oops…you’re right. I tend to see red everywhere when I talk about rangers and immobilize in the same sentence lol.

I use Melandru’s runeset. I have noticed a slight improvement in my survivability, I only wish the cond/stun duration reduction applied to immobilize too. :P

Jayne.9251:

Kysin.6349:

Whatever the end score, it has been a pleasure playing against TC. You guys are more than welcome in T2 and i’m rooting for you guys to take second place

Thank you for posting something lovely in all this pile of gunk. We’ve really enjoyed fighting you too .. you guys have made us work very hard, and I think that’s implicit to learning and growing.

*kicks loose dirt in the corner with my head down…

fullkorn.4350:

I just want to point out that, it’s a really really bad idea for the developers to when designing gameplay take into account players with connections so horrific that they have 2 full seconds of input lag. Such would transform even the most complex of game into FarmVille. With that said i have yet to play the game. I’m still waiting for the client to download. Needless to say I’ll now be rolling thief.

^ LOL

Choice A: challenge myself
Choice B: forrest gump my way through W3

Ding! Choice B

-_-

On the upside, Mezmerz and Necro’s (or anyone for that matter) can’t remove TU with any form of boon removal.

It is affected by poison though, so be sure to try cleanse yourself before using TU or its staggered heals will be reeeeeally low.

How is it thieves can move just as fast(or in some cases faster) when in stealth anyway? Isn’t the act of stealth, i.e. sneaking around in the shadows, supposed to be a slow affair? In almost every other game I’ve played, when a thief-type class goes into sneaky-mode they have to do it while moving slowly.

More to the point, I would rather they just change the name from “stealth” to “invisibility” since it’s obvious there is little hiding going on, but rather some form of magical planar channeling in which hitting a solid object with your sword somehow doesn’t clue your eyes in as to where said object is.

QQing aside, it’s the almighty culling issue that is the real culprit. And judging by ANet’s sidestepping of this issue repeatedly, something tells me there is little they can do about it.

I hope I’m wrong of course. :/

Obsi

^……… Agree

Hmmm, I would say having good condition damage would be nice with the poisons and bleeds that S/D gives you.

The offhand trait is nice for the dagger; faster recharges and the range on the dagger cripple goes up to like 1200.

The F1 on sword also freely grants your pet Might, so a pet that does good dmg would benefit from this.

As for sigils, it’s largely up to you. I use Purity sigils since I hate using Healing Spring.

Question: is this for PvE or PvP?

Oh and QZ lets you attack like a tasmanian devil for a few seconds.

Wheels.8451:

Heinel.6548:

Why is getting loot fun?

Seriously? How isn’t getting loot fun?

Meh, I think it’s fun for many folks I guess. But there are also a lot out there who don’t really care for loot. Personally, I don’t really bother with PvE anymore since I found W3.

I tried finishing my storyline last night to kill Zhaitan but the quest just annoyed me too much. There isn’t much of a reason to finish it anyway.

I’ve done like 2 exp-mode dungeons and 4 story-mode ones. I’ve done fractals twice.

I haven’t gotten to 400 in any crafting discipline yet.

I do have map completion, but I don’t think I’ll do that on any alts.

Loot is largely a cosmetic dynamic in GW2. Since I don’t really care about looks, I just bought the exotics I needed and went from there. But if you like “shinies” GW2 seems to be low on the reward scale unless you spend a lot of time on it. To each his own I guess. :P

I was in W3 the other day and got downed by a couple of invaders while flipping the Quaggan nodes. I use an armorfish as my underwater pet of choice.

The odd thing is that even though they had killed my pet after downing me, my pet continued to use “Lick Wounds” on me. It was healing me so well that even with both of the invaders hammering me, I was able to rez up, dart away to the shore, and get away. I wasn’t doing anything while being helped by my pet either, just sitting there under the water perfectly still.

Armorfish bug or general underwater pet bug?

Empathic Bond is great and all for Beastmaster builds, but what about the rest of us with prec/power/tough builds whose pets die regularly? Is Healing Spring the only good option?

I agree that they won’t remove pets, but there’s little in the history of “ranger” classes in games that presume pets are always tied to them. They’ve always been around in various helpful ways, but how many other games actually have a ranger class that have pets so intensely tied to it like they are in this game?

I really just think it was an unexpected dynamic for most people. Rangers in this game are pet classes, but in most other games they are way more bow oriented. It’s a little uncalled for to fume against players who simply are acting on a well-reinforced, pre-conceived notion of what “rangers” are. ANet’s ranger is hardly typical.

Bloodbath.7084:

Quarktastic.1027:

Bloodbath.7084:

Wall o’ text

I didn’t say healing spring is bad, I just said it wasn’t as good as troll unguent unless you’re running around in a group. Condition removals are easy enough to come by, so poison isn’t an issue. I personally run with signet of renewal, as it’s a much better condition removal skill, and doubles as a stun breaker.

You can leap through healing spring for an additional heal, but both of the ranger’s leap finishers are on our melee weapons, which most people will agree, are sub-par when compared to our ranged options. I for one, never use melee weapons unless ranged combat isn’t an option (jade shards in the solid ocean fractal for instance), so that extra heal isn’t an option for me, or others who don’t like to melee.

You also have to stand in the healing spring for the full 15 seconds to get that 2-3k heal from the regeneration applications.

I didn’t claim anyone was telling it was bad, i’m just discussing how the perception that Ungent is better than HS is wrong. And it is. I know you need to stay on it 15s to get the full regen, but leaping does make up for that difference in HpS.

As for not using melee weapons… i’ll just say this. If you don’t use melee weapons in tPvP and WvW (heck, i mostly just use melee weapons on PvE aswell) you are missing out on the best Ranger setups this game has to offer. Personally i use sword for tPvP (best weapon we have, dispite what anyone says) couple with SB and GS coupled with LB in WvW.

Not using melee weapons is a big fail in my book.

Even traited for the 20% recharge redux in GS, that gives you 2 max leaps per HS use…and that’s under favorable conditions. I can see how HS would be nice in a camp defense scenario when it benefits you to stay in one area and use the npc allies to your advantage. But I don’t know of many open scuffles that stay in one spot. We are usually all over the place; over ledges, up and down walls, in and out of water, around houses, through mobs…my dots appear like someone scribbled on a piece of paper. Either you’re really good at controlling the location mechanics of a fight (which I can’t do) or you fight enemies who aren’t bright enough to either spam aoe’s on that spot, or deny you that spot by simply backing up.

Side note: how do you heal you pet during all of this?

Bloodbath.7084:

Obsidian.1328:

Bloodbath.7084:

You do realize you can drop a field that removes conditions, heals, gives you regen and stays there for 30s (meaning all you have to do is leap through it to heal, walk over it to remove conditions/get regeneration). It’s also on a 30s CD which means for every minute you got 30s of condition removal. It’s called Healing Spring and it’s your best heal, by far.

That, coupled with Signet of Renewal which takes conditions every 10s (and the 60s CD where you can just send to your pet, then switch pets and get Qz if you’re specced for it) gives you decent enough condition removal to be effective.

Also, if you spec 30 in BM you can get your pet to constantly keep removing conditions from you.

It’s not perfect, but it’s hardly useless.

Healing Spring is very awesome for PvE, but the supremacy of mobility in W3 almost takes it out of the equation. Besides, popping that spring basically paints a giant target for enemy aoe’s.

Surely you jest.

You don’t need to stay in the field for it to heal you. Besides the fact that allies can blast it for heals, can step on it for condition removal and leap through it to heal themselves, it’s CD and heal+regen makes it EASILY the best heal a ranger has. In any scenario. Period.

In a zerg yes, but in party size and smaller it just doesn’t cut it. Perhaps it’s a difference of W3 styles. I don’t fly with the groups much but prefer to run supply, escort yaks, and see to the keep/tower defenses. I’m lucky to have 2-3 friendlies around me. As such, HS doesn’t cut it.

So in any scenario, no.

Bloodbath.7084:

You do realize you can drop a field that removes conditions, heals, gives you regen and stays there for 30s (meaning all you have to do is leap through it to heal, walk over it to remove conditions/get regeneration). It’s also on a 30s CD which means for every minute you got 30s of condition removal. It’s called Healing Spring and it’s your best heal, by far.

That, coupled with Signet of Renewal which takes conditions every 10s (and the 60s CD where you can just send to your pet, then switch pets and get Qz if you’re specced for it) gives you decent enough condition removal to be effective.

Also, if you spec 30 in BM you can get your pet to constantly keep removing conditions from you.

It’s not perfect, but it’s hardly useless.

Healing Spring is very awesome for PvE, but the supremacy of mobility in W3 almost takes it out of the equation. Besides, popping that spring basically paints a giant target for enemy aoe’s.

Artaz.3819:

Server combining to compete with BG seems a little underhanded … I vote yes!

To be fair, to move servers for the purposes of WvW would take a profound move by leadership from one server to make it happen; I’m not sure it can be done.

I wouldn’t say it’s for competing against BG, but rather for better W3 in general. BG just happens to be the thing that highlights our weaknesses right now.

And yeah…merging whole servers would be a giant undertaking. The PvE crowds probably outnumber the PvPer’s anyway. Guild moves are more likely.

rchu.8945:

Obsidian.1328:

An IoJ/SoR combo makes sense from a technical perspective: we have somewhat opposing peak hours, and we know each other’s capabilities on the field.

I’m pretty sure both of us like the servers we are on though. A lot of SoR probably wouldn’t leave strictly for W3 purposes, and I’ve heard more than a few IoJ say the same. Personally, for those that refuse to leave it’s kind of admirable actually.

However…misery does love company.

ND just left SoR for BG strictly for W3 purproses…

Hence why I said “a lot” and not “all”.

An IoJ/SoR combo makes sense from a technical perspective: we have somewhat opposing peak hours, and we know each other’s capabilities on the field.

I’m pretty sure both of us like the servers we are on though. A lot of SoR probably wouldn’t leave strictly for W3 purposes, and I’ve heard more than a few IoJ say the same. Personally, for those that refuse to leave it’s kind of admirable actually.

However…misery does love company.

Anyone else having issues downloading the client? Mine won’t connect.

RyuDragnier.9476:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Obsidian.1328:

Thief stealth speed got increased to 50% lol. throws up

What a undeserving buff

Considering they were just about to lose their name as the fastest class, I can say the buff wasn’t entirely undeserving. But 50%? I’d have thought 45% would be good enough…

So…on the off chance someone might happen to go their direction when they escape, they make so you can’t catch them anyway. :/

Thief stealth speed got increased to 50% lol. throws up

But I do like the stuff they gave us.

Unfortunately, it’s a core engine issue. The reason why Tyria looks so amazing is largely because of this same issue. The game program renders things close by you and leaves the things farther away vague. The problem is the sheer volume of calculations that go on every second to determine which things you should see and which things you shouldn’t. Obviously, there are some unforeseen flaws with stealth and how fast the game sort of “decides” it’s something you should see right away.

I see this being a problem for a long time without some hefty code tinkering. :/

^ Why did you repost that here?

@Valor

Wuuuuuuutttt…….the History Channel had a history show on?? Inconceivable!

Honestly, there are some really basic things that we could improve on before we start delving into war psychology; communication and command structure being two of them. Communication is an easy fix with ts(something I’ve been real lazy about). As for the latter, I mean delegation of roles. I would gladly give up several hours of my time starin at a yaks butt if I knew it served the greater good. But it’s got to be organized, and it’s got to be shown to be a vital role…and not just a lazy side-thought.

I have some very basic crafting questions as well…if I may skew this post a little in favor of not cluttering the forums.

I notice that there are only about 8 basic combinations of gear-stats for crafting. Is this set in stone or is karma/dungeon farming the only other way to find gear with different combinations of stats?

Also, if the above is true, do the karma vendors/dungeon vendors offer accessories too, or is it just armor? I’d hate to assume some accessory stat combination was out there to compliment my build only to find out that specific combo is only offered for the armor.

For instance, I’m going to craft Knight’s armor for my character. My accessories I’d like to do a similar power/precision/toughness set-up, but use precision/vitality/healing jewels for the acc slots. <—do those jewels even exist?

Fun stuff at our EB Keep last night, not sure how we kept holding both of you guys off for so long with our outmanned buff popping on and off. I’ve never used a treb so effectively on defense. :P Props to BG and IoJ for not letting up on us…or each other.

Seeing the BG golem portal bomb at the end I sighed…and we we’re having so much fun.

thrice.9184:

Obsidian.1328:

thrice.9184:

There so many other Signets that are better, Lightning reflexes not on a ranger skill bar is ludicrous…seeing how we are more squishy then gw1 rangers….

I hardly ever run into a situation where LR is worth a slot. Almost everyone brings immobilize as their lockdown skill, not stun. Probably because everyone knows Stability and LR is ineffective vs immobilize. If they fixed that it would be soooooo worth it.

Escaping. Throw down a spike trap, LR, swap to warhorn – buff n run.

Thats just my Opinion you know? Your free to carry w/e you want.

Ask around the forums in everyone is in agreement that rangers are the unofficial whipping boys of gw2.

Thus, meaning people will likely take you as a target over anything else if they see you. In pvp or WvW.

No one is gonna turn down an “free” Badge of honor.

And yeah I agree, there are bugs that still need fixes.

Lol, you don’t need to convince of that…I get singled out a lot in WvW as soon as they see my pet next to me.

I see you meant LR as an escape and not a stun-breaker. Ya that makes sense, I switch to greatsword and swoop to do the same thing I guess.

The problem with off hours is you don’t have the numbers to guard all the camps and yaks to replenish basic supply. And I don’t mean personal supply, I mean tower/keep supply. Since you can’t offload personal supply to the tower/camp supply, you’re entirely dependent on the yaks and camps for any upgrades. And when you’re outmanned, you tend to rely more on your upgrades.

The problem with buffing/nerfing is the devs, in any game, tend to go overboard with it(although I will say ANet is pretty good about this). Small, incremental changes are the way to go if you want to achieve balance.

My two cents: let the supervisor upgrade to 82, and add 1 more escort with the yak. That’s it. And just see how it works for awhile.

For anyone who does WvW and doesn’t put any points into Beastmastery, I would recommend Owl and Winter Wolf. I use the “increase pet condition duration” trait(Marks, tier 1) to make chill last around 4 seconds for each pet. The owl lands it fairly easy, the wolf is a little trickier but it’s an aoe so it makes up for it somewhat. Add in the 2ndary swiftness and knockdown skills and the Owl/Winter Wolf combo comes in very handy.

thrice.9184:

There so many other Signets that are better, Lightning reflexes not on a ranger skill bar is ludicrous…seeing how we are more squishy then gw1 rangers….

I hardly ever run into a situation where LR is worth a slot. Almost everyone brings immobilize as their lockdown skill, not stun. Probably because everyone knows Stability and LR is ineffective vs immobilize. If they fixed that it would be soooooo worth it.

I run SoR exclusively, simply because I don’t like to be forced 30-deep into one trait-line to remove a few conditions. I do forget about that stunbreaker activation a lot unfortunately. Maybe I just don’t want to wait for the recharge. :P

If they changed it to every 8 seconds I think it would be a step in the right direction, at least to see how it plays out being 2 seconds faster…I hardly think that’s OP.

Oh and make Stunbreaker include immobilize. tyvm

@PopeUrban “This is most definitely true. Despite…” (sorry, the combined length of our two posts exceeded the post limit so I had to just allude to yours here)

Hmm, speak for yourself on this one. Many players didn’t give the Charr a second glance when it came to possible playable races until EotN came out. And many would strongly disagree GW2 is a spiritual successor to GW, or even a nuanced one. Guild Wars was a highly original, human-centric narrative involving complex power relationships between all the various human cultures on Tyria. It showed intrigue and betrayal, courage and desparation, triumph and destruction. It invited us to participate in that narrative through interesting and believable writing. In other words, it was realistic.

You don’t have that in GW2. Now there’s the dragons on one side…and then mostly everyone else on the other. And every “race” has their own neat and tidy personal antagonist: Sylvari—Nightmare Court, Asura—Inquest, Norn—Sons of Svanir, Charr—Flame Legion, Humans—White Mantle. 5 races, 5 dragons, and 5 minor antagonists which don’t really play into the main plotline at all after a certain point. Then there’s the 3 orders, with the 3 personality traits that mirror those Orders’ styles…but don’t actually do anything themselves, and the 3 mentors(who all 3 die at the same point in the story).

It’s like the GW2 writers went to extraordinary lengths to make everything and everyone be…not the same exactly…but equal. Whatever divergent choices you make in the personal story don’t make a difference at all after a few more missions, you just converge back to the main point. I’m not saying GW1 had choices in this regard…it mostly didn’t. The only real choice of consequence you had in GW1 was Kurzik or Luxon, and that one choice actually made a difference in gameplay when it came to pvp factions. But GW2 was partly sold on the promise of playing it “your way” and having choices that mean something. We could probably all agree that is not the case.

The current storyline doesn’t pay homage to the old lore past a loose connection to people and places that seem so far removed from the modern situation as to seem foreign. They are very different in their approaches to a story narrative. Granted EotN had begun that shift years ago…but that expansion was specifically made to try and fuse the gaps between GW1 & 2. ANet produced a game that put mass appeal first and foremost. To get those masses, they let you choose between 5 different “flavors” of races…none of which actually make a difference to gameplay, but all of which make a difference to story. The lore of GW1 was really the only thing the devs said they would stay faithful to…I find it hard to see that they’ve accomplished that.

It’s really the addition of the 4 other races that has everything to do with the “human” situation. By promoting these new 4, and putting them on equal ground, they had to, by necessity, downplay human import. Because they didn’t want one race to seem more important than the others…even though, if you go by game history, the humans are more important. But I think what ANet failed to understand by putting everyone on equal ground, is that it had the dual effect of diminishing the richness and grandeur of a race that dominated all of history, and made these new upstart races seem contrived and artificial. With the possible exception of the Charr, they are foreigners on Tyria in almost every way.

Keep in mind this all started with the release of EotN, not GW2. My point in all this is simple: don’t claim to base this game on the history and lore of the original, when you are doing so much to the contrary. At no point in Prophesies, Factions, or Nightfall do we get any inkling of other races popping up that would be on par with the humans in terms of Tyrian culture, society, and politics…even the Charr. When EotN is released as a sort of prequel to GW2, all 4 of the new races are either suddenly introduced(Norn, Asura), changed(Charr) or alluded to(Sylvari). In one expansion they begun the systematic change of the soul of Tyrian culture and its social dynamics.

And why? For two reasons: to express the writers’ own individual creativity, and for customers. I don’t blame them for wanting to be original, or even wanting to make money…we all do. But when you use another body of work as the basis for your own story, you should do well to honor that original art. Because that’s what the story of Guild Wars 1 Tyria is…Art. It’s an artform rich in it’s own right, with all the joys and sadness of a well-written fantasy novel.

Embrace that art…don’t diminish it.

Thevoidiscold.4910:

Frankly, I find you all talk to much.

^ ‘hits like button’ HA! I dig this.

“We’re thieves, not rogues or assassins!”

That’s like saying, “We’re nectarines, not oranges or clementines!”

A rogue, I would think, might be able to use axes. Since “rogue” is the broadest term of the 3. Thieves need discretion…things they can hide in their clothes or boots etc., axes just seem odd for a sneak. Assassin…who knows, but dagger is a hands down must for any assassin class(unless modern sin, then sniper rifle).

Score update please and thank you?

tkalamba.2541:

Anyone have a current score update?

Last I saw SoR was up by about 8k over BG, and @ the same from them to IoJ.

BlackeHawke.9025:

I’ve actually had a lot of fun times vsing KnT and I thought that some respect would at least be received in return. ^.^

Instead of us being viewed as being farmed for badges…which we aren’t btw…hehe

On another note. Had a really fun time in SoR Borderlands..HIRE managed to paint it red in the end. Epic defense from SoR at Cliffside though

Later on we teamed up with AVTR and took SM as well! Hopefully bolstering the morale of all the PvErs we have on this server xD

—points finger! Levitating treb at Garrison… You monsters!! >.>

Held out as long as we could at Dawn’s, but was defeated by a floating treb at Garrison lol. How did you guys use it when the wall was down under it? 0.o