Guild Wars 2

How wide spread is the log in issue at the moment? I can’t seem to get in for a few hours now? Didn’t see anything on twitter or reddit.

Why did you guys disable the freeze rifle thing? It was PvE only and frankly it was a fun little gimmick that wasn’t actually unbalancing anything.

I can understand if you allowed its use in WvW or PvP.

Just wondering honestly what was the driving force for this one since it seems more like a “look our players are having fun, stop them!” kind of move.

Its not. A. Dying. Fish. It is literally immortal and has no legs so has to flop to you to move around on land.

Now if there was a definitive “death” animation, I’d be more apt to say yes, that’s just cruel. But that’s not how it works.

That promise applied to skill changes and balances in PvP. The things changed speak to team comp and an ART update.

Calm down a sec and remember to tell yourself everything will be alright.

OK, this topic was way too fun to read through not to comment as well.

While i understand that feelings about not wanting to see an animal suffer there are a few things to remember:

a) this is a game
b) this is a game where you:
i) launch cows from a treb
ii) launch cows from a Cattle-pault (Diessa)
iii) at some point have killed countless frogs, insects, moa, more cows, dogs, coyote, etc, etc etc in the pursuit of either leveling or staying alive
c) killed other sentient beings that have shown themselves to be nuanced (skritt, ogres)
d) killed others of playable races
e) had something to eat at Meatober Fest

Now thats just a short list, but I’m sure you get the picture. There is literally no lack of “animal cruelty” in the game and we can all cope with this (I’d hope) because we know that this is a game.

As for the suffering of said animal: it never dies. Its an immortal fish. More akin to a mudskipper in fact, just flopping along on land until it gets into water with you. And if you are having a hard time believing that it is immortal, just remember that you are playing in a game where you can fight dragons and drop flaming rocks on their heads with your mind.

Yes, while the build can still be played, there is at least some counter play to it as opposed to straight trolling and killing people while never leaving stealth. It didn’t take much for me to “chase” someone and condi them until they had no options left, and that was the biggest problem with it. They just had to take the punishment with no way of knowing where I was. The problem was that there was almost no counter play and in solo roaming situations it would be annoying for the roamer coming across one of them. All in all good changes on Anets part.

OK, so full disclosure:

a) I play a thief fairly well, but not my main
b) I made and tried playing a ghost thief

So, I played one for a little bit (and i did so badly I might add) and the thing was so over powered I accidentally won fights. While “funny” from a thought experiment sorta way it was super cheap. So to that end, thank you anet for updating the game to nerf this build.

Mind you I don’t think its a loss that i geared up for this since I can condi thief just fine. Still funny though.

Yeah, also been playing since head start and have never seen a single drop. My account isn’t one of the “lucky” ones.

Nikal.4921:

I have hated in other games to see the divide between raiders (small %) and non-raiders (majority) and so much dev focus on raids that only a small minority of players would ever see at the expense of focus on content for the majority. One of the things that drew me to GW2 way back when was no raids. Sad to see that didn’t last. Just didn’t make sense for this game. Really, what has it added to the game?

Well, let me preface this by saying I am not a raider and don’t plan on being a raider. That being said, raiding has added a somewhat unique mechanic for Anet and Guild Wars for secondary story delivery. Basically they can expand on non-core Tyria story and lore by not directly affecting the core story and deliver high end content that some may decide to try out later on.

Of course the big problem here is that most casual players (myself included) will probably never experience this content or try to see it when others have long since stopped playing it, and the dev team is using valuable resources for this stuff that they could be using to focus on content for the general community, but thats a horse of a different glue.

Basically, they do serve a neat purpose for the team, but I don’t think that is time well spent for the overall health of the game.

As I used to tell everyone who would have similar issues with dungeon runners that required specific builds or classes or whatever, do a LFG where you specify no DPS meters, etc. There are plenty of players that think and feel as you do and with whom you can run with/raid with. I can see the value in DPS meters, but also hate them personally. Its a game. If I start caring that much about a game then it turns into a job and last I knew Anet wasn’t paying me to play their game.

Travis the Terrible.4739:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Uhm, you realize that Anet has only been about condi damage since HoT dropped. They will ony ever buff it.

Go into wvw and tell me epidemic doesnt need to be nerfed and I’ll show you how to get pre drops every day.

you misunderstand, I never said it didn’t need a nerf. Been playing WvW for the last 3 years. I said that Anet is in love with condi damage in their game and they are not going to nerf it. As they like to say in the programming world, that isn’t a bug, its a feature.

My heal monkey banner warrior is going to be fun to play some more now. So much regen. So much.

OK, well for a bit of positive I will say I like the no points awarded for killed an outnumbered player in WvW.

Travis the Terrible.4739:

lucadiro.4519:

OriOri.8724:

Devilman.1532:

again… lol you could be an Ele lol… all we ever really get is beaten about the head and shoulders with the Nerf Bat

Seriously? Even if it wasn’t the changes you wanted, Ele got almost exclusively buffs in this patch. The only nerf was that Air Overload dmg was reduced by a whopping 7%, and that was justified. Literally everything else was a buff to eles.

All the buff Ele got are useless even if in the right direction, but you Will never see a single Ele going Dagger offhand in pvp.
Air overload isn’t even the worst Nerf, the CD added to Meteor shower seems an huge Nerf, but to be honest have to test that.
But I’m Pretty sure the 2 Nerf togheter killed staff fresh air.
I dont know for other pve metabuild

Not sure if serious or not. Air overload was only nerfed in pve.

Can we complain about the real problem that epidemic wasnt nerfed into the ground.

Uhm, you realize that Anet has only been about condi damage since HoT dropped. They will ony ever buff it.

Gaile Gray.6029:

We’ll be making a game update on Wednesday, February 22 that will include skill balancing. Members of our skills and balance team will be on the official forums for a while after the build goes live to discuss those changes with you.

To take part, please join the new thread we’ll post after the build goes live. For our players who participate on the French, German, or Spanish forums, we will provide a list of highlights from the conversation by the end of the week.

Hey, just wondering where that official post is to discuss some of these changes might be. I REALLY want to discuss them. Really.

Asgaeroth.6427:

WvW seems impossible with all the one shots going on. Something is way out of spec, I get straight one shot downed all the time and I’m full ascended in tank gear. It’s not even getting targeted by a bunch of people in big fights, I’ll just be walking alone along a road and a thief will appear and down me in exactly one shot. It’s not fun or interesting to play anymore. This happens 10 times an hour, there’s more permastealthed people just abusing one shot bugs for laughs than playing on my tier. The game feels like a ghost town.

Playing on your tier??? What does that even mean? What class are you playing? I can tell you that the stealth thief that is killing you has that one shot, just one, to kill you. If you are running full glass with no way to protect yourself then yes you will eat it. If you are running full tank then you will a) do nothing for damage and b) its probably taking 3 hits to kill you, but it seems like one. See they are stealthing up to you probably with bask ven on a steal which can happen from far away while hitting you with a CnD to stealth on the hit along with mug doing damage on the steal. then while immobile they flip it around and backstab you.

Honestly thats a L2P thing because once you know how to counter it on your main it will take more than one thief doing that to you to overcome your initial hit defenses. And if they miss it they have to run or die.

Well oddly enough I just went to Ember Bay today to try and get some petrified wood (haven’t been there in over a month) and all I got were emp fragments.

So, anyone have any ideas why that was even happening?

onio.6403:

sunbirdy.7981:

onio.6403:

Honestly, I think this affair has started to be pathetic, I’ve invested time and money in this game, but so much waiting and bad communication is a lack of respect. I’m going to black desert.

I swear you lot throw a hissy fit every time you don’t get what you want the second you want it.
Complaining isn’t gonna do a thing, and it’s not as if the devs don’t KNOW that people are upset.

Well I hope we all have a reward, because the waiting time that many have lost is not free. Also the most serious thing is that there is a constant communication on the part of them to know how the thing is, and this fills us with indecision and dilemma about whether to be in the game or do something else.

your “waiting time” isn’t free? Who’s paying you to play Guild Wars 2? I want in on that gig? Oh wait… you’re not getting paid to play this game?

Then … just wait.

I’m sorry but all of this was made moot when they launched magaservers. See, while i get RPers want to be heard by Anet, that fact is (and I don’t begrudge your desire to RP) I don’t want to see it/hear it/read it. But thanks to megaservers, I come across it WAAAAAY too much and its annoying. See as much as RPers want these things non-RPers don’t want to be subjected to any of it most of the time yet we are. Furthermore there are tons more things anet should be focusing on delivering that are leaps and bounds more important over a feature that a small population of players would even care about.

So the other night I was on SBI borderland mostly to get my dailies and I had already fliped my two camps and claimed my land, so decided to roam a touch. I came across a SBI thief trying to flip their NE camp back to their color while solo and he was struggling. He had the supervisor and one scout on him, but the scout was about to 86 him. I decided to jump inand take the scout out then backed off since I hate it when people hide until my health is gone and I’m on cd before they gang up on me. As I sat on the near by rock to watch him finish taking the camp another thief friend of his tried to gank me. I burst him hard then went and sat back down while he backed off.

At this point he stayed in stealth and instead of helping his friend flip the camp (which he still hadn’t done yet), he waited until 3 more SBI guildies came around to come out of stealth and attack me who was still sitting off to the side.

This is one of the reasons I don’t WvW much anymore.

borya.2964:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Let me repeat the key word in there in case it was missed: FREE.

Good customer. You’re a baby who is sleeping and dreaming in his baby carriage, called liberalism.

Nothing is free, never.

How daft can you be? Some history here so you understand some things about the world and myself: I’ve been a Guild Wars player since launch of GW1 and was in GW2 since beta. I’ve probably dropped well over 1000 dollars over the years on gens/expansion/etc and have stuck with Anet through some highs and lows (and have been vocal about both, just ask Gaile) so try not to get things twisted since it looks like you’ve only been here since HoT dropped.

Fact is the LS content is all content that Anet does not have to develop or deliver to us as players. It is literally content that they can work on and sell to us if they so chose to do as bigger packages and instead they deliver to current active players for free.

Once again, this is time and energy put into developing content that they COULD make us pay for but instead deliver to current active players for FREE.

I’d understand if they were like “Hey, next LS story drops tomorrow” then 5 months later all we get after some prodding is a message on a thread on reddit with “soon” as a response, but that’s literally not the case. It just isn’t. Hell if they ultimately dropped the LS update on Friday It’d still be “soon” enough for me. Its free content. So many people need to chill on this one.

I really wonder what the stats are regarding the ages of the people complaining the most right now. I’d wager they might trend in the 20-30 age range.

TBH, they did update the community on all of their communication fronts and did try to get the patch out the door despite the problems they faced. This is one of those times that I can’t fault them and really neither should anyone else. You still have a game to play and unless you’re living in the game 24/7 my guess is you still have content you’ve not even completed yet. Go work on that for the evening and then come back tomorrow when they will hopefully drop the LS content.

Gems cost real money or your time in the game playing and converting gold into gems (still a cost), and BLC tickets cost keys which also cost gems (money/time) or just your time to farm them, but there is still a cost.

Furthermore, no you and everyone else here not with a free account paid for the core game content and the content that was delivered with HoT. Whether that content was “complete” or not is debatable, but also completely irrelevant since ALL living world content (ever single hour of game play of LS since launch) has been free extra content created and delivered by Anet. There is ZERO obligation on their part to make any of this content and deliver it nor are they obligated to deliver it on your or my schedule. You are not owed this content nor are you owed compensation of any sort for it not dropping today due to unforeseen circumstances.

Wow. I’m honestly surprised here at just how many people are losing their minds about this. Let’s quickly recap something here:

This is FREE content available to currently active GW2 players that adds both story and reward content to the game above and beyond what is currently available. Let me repeat the key word in there in case it was missed: FREE.

For the things that Anet makes mistakes on (which plenty know I can and will unabashedly call them out on) this is not one of them. Not by a long shot. So unless you are their IT team, sys admins, devs, etc and know their infrastructure like the back of your hand then please hush it and let them work on getting the content out to people. The’ve actually kept their player base informed on this one and I thank them for that. One more day or so before the patch dropping is not the end of the world.

As for Anet, thanks for keeping us in the loop and I look forward to playing the update when it drops. I’ve been really,pleased with the storyline thus far and especially the nod backs to GW1. Plenty of us know that all of this work doesn’t even need to be delivered for free and you could have just as easily shoved it all into a paid expansion with years of nothing between them. I might have some grievances but this is certainly not one of them.

I have a feeling its been covered already in this post, but as far as i see it these are the reasons I’ve sen for more people not playing in those two modes:

1) Both modes have a certain “type” of player that can be toxic. In PvP its a bit worse, but both have their fair share of people that go out of their way to be jerks tbh.

2) PvP can be crazy fun, but if you’re a new player or just don’t have the twitch skills necessary to play it the game mode can get really frustrating really fast.

3) There is ZERO incentive to play WvW “properly”, and its just become a free for all zerg and roaming fest with little strategy and now with the team ups of servers even LESS motivation based on “server pride”. Early on I went into WvW and was drawn in by both the push and pull as the 3 sides fought for control and points, as well as the “this is my server, aw yes” feeling. It sucked me in. Its even informed my sig on the forums. That being said, the day they introduced megaservers that all changed. I couldn’t recruit easily and it just took the wind out of WvW. Then they added in the team ups (to ham-fistedly deal with the low pop issues for certain servers) while also completely erasing the identity of the “sub servers” that are in team ups. Couple all of that with changing how scoring works making it all very pointless to hold objectives and then having players need to play for AGES just to progress a fraction of a way on a rewards line as compared to PvP and yeah. If the game mode can barely hold onto long time WvW players, its not going to grab new players for long.

I might PvP or WvW now to knock out a daily quickly, but thats about it. I’ve tried getting back into WvW like before, but there is no incentive. And PvP is more a distraction than anything I’m drawn to seriously in part due to the toxicity I’ve experienced in there.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

I wonder where the new map will be located. Judging from the screenshots it lies in or at least near Kryta. Maybe we’ll finally be able to go to Lake Doric

They already said there will be no Lake Doric map.

Yeah, LA now is an absolute joke. I make new toons in an empty slot every now and then to play up to the story that takes place in old LA then leave them there so I can see the old map after having to visit the new one.

That being said, I wouldn’t mind seeing some damage spread out over parts of DR that later get fixed a bit.

Yeah, and I’m expecting crickets from Anet, but as views of this thread grow in just under an hour…. obviously SOMEONE other than us are looking for answers. Imagine that Anet….people want info. Crazy huh?

A security update would be on the back end, and not game client related with regard to a ddos. That’s a server issue for them to sort out. As for a preload, the need to tell us ahead of time as this is a massive update affecting game play in a major way. So no, not going to accept silence on this one from Anet. No one actively trying to play this game should.

Crack is supposed to drop on Monday, not today. Also if this is a maintenance build there needs to be more details regarding the changes given its sheer size. This is ridiculous.

So anyone from Anet going to post or explain what this massive update is or do we have to guess???

Guhracie: you were there for the traits thread. You know this one will be no different. Sadly they will keep trying to ignore this thread until it either buries itself OR they close it due to it no longer being constructive or whatever other excuse they come up with. Maybe they will learn to under promise for their next xpac so any new players that stumble along won’t be so disappointed.

Yup, too bad that spectral walk trick no longer works.

I like the shortbow changes you guys made there Anet. Gotta get people liking that weapon more now that it’s one of the only legendaries y’all are delivering on huh? Same with that damage stacking trick thieves can do if they spam SB 5 with the new trait tweak. Hmmmm

Gaile. I honestly adore you. I do. Ever since getting to “know” you from GW1 days and events. This is why I say this with the utmost sincerity: please stop putting a target on your back for Anet. Let those making these decisions catch more of the heat. They lean on you because they know we genuinely like you.

It’s frankly sad that a game that was/is so stable (compared to some others) can’t manage to deliver on key features that were promised to people who paid for the xpac. Simply put, Anet had been accused by many of us with using bait and not give tactics in the past and we were shouted down by many true believers. Now they’ve done it again on a bigger (IMO) scale and they will simply try to move on as if it never happened. Ridiculous. But hey, I’m sure tomorrow’s patch is going to be AWESONE, right? I mean, they have such a great track record with big game changing updates they release in April.

2016 April update and somehow y’all are expecting Anet to not put the screws to the community. I’ll be back with my popcorn to witness the general fallout for the next month.

mmmm…SAB, how I’ve never missed you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh man….

Wow, Anet. I thought it was a joke, but no. Red post and everything. Worse of all you tried to sell it as a good thing. Oh we are stopping this to work on LS3. Because everyone just loved how LS2 played out.

Seriously. People paid money in the hopes that it would be different. Hell I even dropped some cash, and BAM.

Its like you guys are trying to alienate your player base. One step forward, two steps back. But LOOK, we have SAB. For that one third of the playerbase that likes it.

So what is the plan for those players (new and old) that were looking forward to the new legendaries? Let me guess: Once you have worked out the kinks and have made it easier on your team to code they will start getting worked on again BUT they will only be made available to people that buy your NEXT expansion. Right? Right?

Yeah.

Man, this is going to be fun.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but you could always turn on the feature in windows that turns your keyboards number pad into a mouse input. This will make your “+” key on your keypad act as a doubleclick so it will preserve your mouse. The feature is called MouseKeys.

Anet really seems to be angry at the Kessex Hills map.

BS I didn’t invest in anything. In those years that I and other players (whether they were one offs or whales) poured money into the game LONG after the initial purchase was made in part because we KNEW that the store was their main revenue stream and if we wanted those servers to stay up, if we wanted that LW content to keep flowing, those updates to the game to be made, for those lights to essentially stay on, that we would have to support the game in some way.

Make no mistake about it, if people didn’t open their wallets during those first 2 years NCsoft would never have even green lit an expansion. The proof was in their financials and in the words of those at the top at NCsoft at the time they announced that they had made enough money to justify an expansion. If that money hadn’t been made, there wouldn’t be a HoT coming soon.

Your example of the microwave, while neat, is nothing like this.

If I bought a car and the company said they would be providing upgrades, fixes, part replacements for my car and i opted to support them by buying additional accessories for the car to help support them in that endeavor then they decide to offer up a new engine for the car and tell me I had to pay the price of the full car for that engine if I wanted it, but NEW owners of the car get the car and the new engine upgrade for the same price, I’d be a bit miffed. Sure I didn’t HAVE to pay for all those other accessories, but i wanted to support the company given the other things they were doing for me during that time. So for them to come along and tell me that i can get that new engine for the same price as the whole car that I originally paid and new people can just get the new car with all the upgrades AND the new engine is more than a little off putting.

See, its not that I had a TV and now its gone on sale and someone else is getting it for that sale price. I could care less about that. I care that people (myself included) have invested time and money into the game and have been jerked around many times over by Anet and they are simple unapologetic about the whole thing.

As for the LW being done by a skeleton crew: yes they only had a handful of people ever working on those. More so for season 2 than season one.

And while I’m all for them making harder content (finally), they are restricting it to HoT AND none of it is for the solo or small group, so basically general PvE will still be a press “1” snorefest.

mercury ranique.2170:

Why an outfit?
Besides the usual critics bout outfits. My main critique is that it gives a very specifick look. It is nice for those that can use the look, but for others, it has limited value. You will never wear it again.

I think it would have been nice to have something usefull instead. The game is all bout skins, so giving just one skin that is obivously is not going to be unique is not really cutting it. I would have opted for a loyal dolyak. It would function as a second miniature (that you can hide), but also as a 25! slot bag.
I think it would be something that everyone would welcome, has a cuteness level and is functional. As it is unique (there are no 25 slot bags) it is also a real reward.

Because in the grand scheme of things a BS outfit cost them nothing to make and pump out. Its an empty gesture IMO and one that just screams “please don’t rage”.

Bag slots, unlimited gather tool of your choice, unique titles…I dunno…any of those things would have been preferable.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Oh no, you’re good! Anyone who registered an account prior to the Play for Free announcement will receive the gift.

Soooooo, its not even a thing that a vet can wear and say that yes, its because they’ve been here since the start?

Wow.

Just wow.

There is something to be said for some level of exclusivity.

PopeUrban.2578:

To all the people complaining about this on a financial basis.

Really?

You spent at most 50 bucks for the game three years ago. That’s what these free to play people are getting.

Do you barge in to the electronics store you bought your TV in and demand a 50% refund when it goes on a 50% off sale? snipped for brevity

No, it wasn’t just a 50 dollar purchase initially. Not for many vets that I know of and not for me personally. I know I have put in over $1000 additional dollars over the years I’ve had the game (and most of that was in the first 2 years of having the game) because i wanted to support the game and the developers while they were providing all of that living world content. This was because they explicitly stated that they were (at the time) only delivering new content via living world, so I wanted to support them through that endeavor.

Then they reveal that their LW content creators were really just a skeleton crew and most of their team was working on something bigger. Expansion talk was now on the horizon, but while that was going on, they made some HORRIBLE game breaking decisions for the game that languished on for over a year and which sent many players away from the game, new and old. Over the course of the game they have increasingly done things to push veteran players away and NOW they announce raids and harder content (which we don’t know if they even will be after a month of so), but its still all locked in behind HoT, so its either buy HoT at full game price or you don’t get to take part in that content. But here, just to show you we’re thinking about you, have an outfit you’ll never wear or care about and please head to our gemstore for the latest thing we want to sell you this week.

People are tired of Anet’s BS and this thread is going to be a LONG one. Unless they find some reason to bury it.

After having read the updates and the detailed list of what is afforded to free/core/HoT players:

Good measures in place for restricting those free accounts, but they really need to be capped at say level 70 or something. And yes WvW spying will be a bigger issue with this. Enjoy the rage in those forums.

Now, that being said as a veteran player this outfit you’re offering as an olive branch, “look we’re thinking of you guys” is absurd. Even if this outfit look OMG AWESOME, there are still many of us that don’t give a flying fig about outfits and others which outright hate them. In the grand scheme of things this kind of appeasement is going to feel like a slap in the face. I understand you all need more people in the game (lord knows that unless there is a world boss event happening I’m constantly being asked to move to another map) so this is a way to get more bodies in there while you hope they drop more money to get HoT. I get it. You’ve lost players. Ever wonder though that maybe you’d retain more long time players by not dumping all over them then trying to get more money out of them via the gemstore?

I digress.

The really sad side effect to all of this is that when looking forward to the next year there are A LOT of games coming out that are vying for my limited dollars and this one here…its not doing a good job trying to convince me to hand them over. I hope against all hope that I am very wrong here. I do. History isn’t on my side however.

Cartune.6143:

Hype?….interesting?, its a Thief, a sneaky character there is killing and stealing stuff. The Dagger, Sword, Pistol and Bow do actually make sense….but a Stick…i’m going to sneak up on people with a Stick and club them?…what??! Give them the Rifle and become a Sniper or something, that would make sense, but a STICK!!
Take this scenario ….“I’m in the shadows, sneaking around in the dark allies….I see my kill target. I slowly get closer and closer, the target is still unknown about, that this is going to be his last seconds of his life. Right before I kill him he hear a faint sound and then he turns around, he see me CLUB HIM WITH A FREAKING STICK!!!”….no no….nooope, does not “stick” with the Thief.

You’ve never seen the kind of real damage blunt force weapons can do to a another have you? And a “reach” weapon at that. Yeah, I’m okie with it, especially in the fantasy game such as this.

Oh man. That name. BWAHAHAHAHA..
I mean, the details make them seem like they might be a bit OP in some ways, but not so much so compared to the new specs coming out, just compared to base.

That name though man. Wow. Dragonhunter is sounding SO much better now.

Would it have killed them to just call them Assassins again?