Guild Wars 2

Smallclaw.1650:

stof.9341:

Smallclaw.1650:

You aren’t paying more because the prepurchase tiers include the core game. The core game is included as a Free Bonus. I repeat: FREE BONUS. As was officially stated above, since many of you either failed to read it or failed to comprehend it.

Whether the tiers include the base game or not will not alter the prices.

The price might be free (which remains to be proven since you cannot buy the core game for $0 anywhere), but the value isn’t.

Okay let me break it down.
GW2 is included in HoT whether you purchased Basic, Deluxe, or Ultimate. The value of GW2 is not free, no, but it has been included in these three tiers via prepurchasing as a Free Bonus. No one is paying more because it is included; if GW2 wasn’t included, the price of each tier would remain the same. All in all my reply has nothing to do with the value of the original game.

Let me break it down for you.
let’s say I’m a regular at my local breakfast diner, and I’m halfway through a meal of 3 eggs, cost $10
The diner then offers 3 free sunny side uppers for free with purchase of toast, but only to people they don’t recognize.
Here I’ve already got eggs and have to pay for them, but no toast.
Toast costs $50

Smallclaw.1650:

You aren’t paying more because the prepurchase tiers include the core game. The core game is included as a Free Bonus. I repeat: FREE BONUS. As was officially stated above, since many of you either failed to read it or failed to comprehend it.

Whether the tiers include the base game or not will not alter the prices.

I agree that we simply cannot comprehend that something is labeled as free when it has a price listed directly below it!

Buy three tires get 1 free!
free detail on new car purchase!
No cleaning charge on rental returns!
This 80 page notebook comes with 20 bonus pages!
Free koolaid with cult membership!

papry.8096:

Quiznos.4296:

Even still. What like 8 million core copies already purchased?
if they truly planned for 2 million HoT copies… That’s only a 25 customer retention rate. Even less since they’re targeting new customers as well…
A company doesn’t even need good customer service to hit 25 retention… Oh, wait…

Some people own multiple accounts.

And some people would buy multiple expansions for those multiple accounts surely. I’m guessing at the 8 million anyhow.

But from year 1 numbers,
http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2013/08/gw2annivinfographic2.jpg
Even assuming no one bought the game in the last two years (easily offsetting multiple account purchases within year 1) that still only 57 percent retention. I’m genuinely concerned about any company that not only accepts, but plans, for that much costomer loss.
regardless an additional .3 million copies, or 9 percent more retention does not seem unheard of, especially if the reduced price by $10. (or you know, tossed in a character slot or 3 for retainers)

Forum ate my percent signs….

Even still. What like 8 million core copies already purchased?
if they truly planned for 2 million HoT copies… That’s only a 25 customer retention rate. Even less since they’re targeting new customers as well…
A company doesn’t even need good customer service to hit 25 retention… Oh, wait…

Otokomae.9356:

Well, people keep speculating about why HoT was $50 at all, saying that the free game for new players is factored in, or because Warlords of Draenor was $50 (the most expensive expansion in WoW’s history, and tied w/ HoT for the most expensive MMO expansion ever, atm), or that maybe there is just a mountain of new content that Anet hasn’t shown us yet that makes this kitten expansion.

But, if you go back to January 8 (a few weeks BEFORE HoT was even announced), you can find a a 2015 Yearly Projections statement made by Daewoo Securities, currently the LARGEST stock brokerage and investment bank in South Korea, in which they said that NCSoft would release an expansion called Heart of Thorns (weeks before the announcement) and then projected that Anet would sell at least 2 million copies of the expansion at $50 each. This is not a “guess” by analysts about the positive outcome, this was the largest brokerage in Korea saying “You need to sell 2 million copies of this expansion for $50 each or you will NOT make your quarterly projections for the end of 2015”.

You can read a summary of this on Daewoo Securities website here: http://goo.gl/ziO33b

This is essentially like Goldman Sachs telling a company “You must raise the price of your products by 15% this year, or your stock price will drop”. Goldman Sachs, of course, has no authority to actually raise those prices, but as the largest investment bank in the US, they can do more than just predict how stock prices will move.

So that’s it. $50 is the price. It kind of has to be. Maybe Anet will throw in some extras, I don’t know. But if you’re wondering “Why are they giving away the core game w/ the expac”, it’s it NOT entirely because they want to increase the game’s population in order to give everyone playing a better experience. It’s not even about adding more customers to the Gem Store, or anything like that. NCSoft was given a mandate from the most powerful investment bank in the country that essentially said “You must sell 2 million copies of this product at $50 each just to meet yearly projections… or else!”

So yeah, don’t expect a price drop.

That’s some very interesting information. Thanks!
I do have to wonder though, wouldn’t 2.3 million copies at $40 each make the same $?
I honestly don’t think it would take much for a net to exceed 2 million (if they haven’t already).

I haven’t posted on this topic today, but want to be doubly sure that I avoid the issue some people have with understanding that “silence is not acceptance”

If a new player gets 5 character slots, I want 5 character slots.
Heck, I’ll take 3.

They can have the 20-slot bag, bank tab, collections stack, and EVERYTHING ELSE free.

With all of the changes that are going / have gone into the game in even the last year; in some respects I feel like I preordered the pre-order gw2 3 years ago and have just been playing beta this whole time.

Additions are cool, LS, SAB, PvP maps, holidays, guild missions, new bosses, 2 maps, currencies, dailies, monthlies, log in rewards, achievement rewards, new achievements, rewards tracks, wardrobe, megaserver, lions arch x3(?), DR, fractals, ascended, skins, just about everything guild related,

Not cool, the total change of: skills, personal story, conditions, boons, gear, traits, mf, skill points, influence, glory, movement speed, gaining experience from items earned on other characters instead of… gaining experience on a character, monthlies, megaserver, lions arch x2, ascended

This is definitely not the game I bought 3 years ago! (in both a good and bad way)

Idk, long story short:
New players, your welcome for us testing, evaluating, and providing feedback for the game you’ll be playing.
Arenanet, it would be nice to be treated as an equal customer, by providing HoT key and the free/included core key separately, Or at very least 3 charslots / gem equivalent. You’re welcome for the QA, I’m sorry if it wasn’t great, and came off in many cases as complaining, but at least it was free (wait… actually you got paid).

The more I think about it, the more I realize, depending on how you look at it, either the core game was vastly incomplete/broken/wrong OR the current game is.

I’d love to provide better, more helpful feedback, but there is unfortunately no new information to respond to. Just saying hi! I’m still here, I still want HoT, but I still feel like I’m being treated unfairly.

Tyloric.7520:

People don’t seem to realize that core GW2 is included, not being charged for. I fully expected this to be $50. How you guys see the massive amount of content HoT is? Mostof you are complaining but are going to buy it anyway. If it really bugs you that much wait for the inevitable price drop is six months kitten .

You don’t seem to realize that core is included only for some, for others it is not included.
I’m not going to “buy it anyway” until there’s some form of restructuring/adjustment on prices or included items.
it does bug me that much. And I will wait. However it is in arenanets best interest to accrue a larger top line sooner that can be invested over time. Rather than the same top line addition later.

I’m selling a cardboard box for $50 bucks.
My potential buyer says I’ll buy it from you for $50 if you flatten it now or $40 unflattened next month.
I can flatten the box, at no additional expense. Offer to reduce the price, at no additional expense, but lost potential of $10. Or sell it next month after putting it on sale, no addl expense, at lost potential of $10 + 30 days interest on $40

I have to agree with that sentiment myself. The concept of “expansion” has always bothered me when it comes to guild wars 2. Separate campaigns sure, but expansions, not for me.
Unfortunately, the players spoke, it was a more or less resounding “We want a paid expansion!” And that is what Arenanet is going to (attempt to) deliver.
I have accepted this for a while now. Who am I to say a majority of player base is wrong? I was prepared to shell out ultimate.
then I saw gw base now valued at $0 and I started to think. And my heart turned black and cold. I became angry, upset, and confused.
This isn’t the first two LOTR, and missing the third. This is much more akin to giving us a half of the first book of the trilogy. Six dragons later, I’m out $300 just on the original story?!

I made a thread on this earlier. According to the FAQ, unfortunately, there will NOT be a collector’s edition, BUT there will be a physical boxed copy if you so desire.

I’m holding out some hope they’ll release at a later date some sort of “collector’s box” of different stuffs, even if it doesn’t pair directly with a release of some kind.

Branden Gee.2150:

(Please note this does not mean that this will happen, won’t happen, is planned to happen, and or not planned to happen)

#redacted
We get it we get you guys never officially have your minds made up about anything.

(Jpf… Now back on topic)

Aside from the acceleration, which I like in non PvP settings, the last BIG camera update was awesome.
I find the current max for zooming out to be more than sufficient now.
I wish we could have/set zoom boundaries though for max in max out.

+1 (but I’d go with green)

JustTrogdor.7892:

Randulf.7614:

Highly unlikely. They have already said they is no boxed edition.

There will be boxed versions available starting June 23rd:

https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/94582027-Heart-of-Thorns-Pre-Purchase-FAQ

Can I pre-purchase through my favorite retailer?

Yes. Starting on June 23, 2015, you’ll be able to pre-purchase boxed and digital editions of Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns from our official retail partners.

As for a boxed CE edition, from the same FAQ link they have stated they have no plans to offer one.

Is there a physical collector’s edition planned for Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns?

There are no plans for a physical collector’s edition for Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns. Heart of Thorns will be offered in Standard, Deluxe, and Ultimate Editions (all of which are available for pre-purchase and include digital in-game bonuses only).

I was hoping for another faq’s page change I guess…

Oh well, hopefully they add some physical items later.

I could upgrade to deluxe later, but it was made clear one cannot upgrade to ultimate. So act now during pre purchase !double thumbs up and cheesy smile.

RabbitUp.8294:

And what are you afraid of? You are paying full price as it is, you are not getting any bonuses. At the “worst” case scenario, if ultimate and deluxe are limited, you will be stuck with the standard package, whose price will only go lower.

1. I’m just straight up undecided on purchasing at all. See other threads for details, I clearly stated I’m not getting into this in this thread.
2. I’m in a financial bind, and can only afford standard in a pinch “today” but a week it wouldn’t be as tight or two maybe I could get deluxe or in a month or so I may be able to afford ultimate;

So, at the end of the day how much time do I have to save $?

I can’t be the only person wondering, can I?

Clearly, many of us need some time to think about this purchasing decision.
But how long do we have to think about it?
When’s the end date on pre purchase and/or the first included beta date?

(THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR DICUSSION OF PRICE OR NEW VS VET!!!)

edit: Also, fyi, pre-purchase page is working again

Except that some people will be buying ultimate and converting 4000 gems to gold… Balances out as intended by the gold/gem system.

Tirien.1326:

It’s funny how people think the value of something stays the same, especially when a new version comes.

My volvo from the year 1998 does not COST as much as a new one from the year 2015. I wish that you guys were right, but sadly you are not. 60k$ for my pos volvo would really be nice to get

Ok so think of it this way. You buy a 2015 Volvo for $60k and keep your ’98. The dealer will NOT sell you a 2014 model unless you can prove ownership of a previous Volvo.
Some other guy goes to the dealer buys a 2015 Volvo for $60k and is given, for free, a ’98 Volvo, so he can match the pre-ownership requirements.

has the dealer treated you fairly?

I was saddened to see this. I’m always a fan of stuff I can put on the walls/desk/bookshelf to show my GW pride.

Will there later be a CE type of thing?

(Yes I am a HoT opposed player atm over pricing/core for new issue, but this thread is not about that. Please keep it that way!)

evoRobot.4019:

Lavafrost of Maguuma.6807:

evoRobot.4019:

Lavafrost of Maguuma.6807:

evoRobot.4019:

ReaverKane.7598:

evoRobot.4019:

Caesteris.7529:

evoRobot.4019:

The 50 dollars you paid for your 5 character slots on the core game is now worth 10 – 40 dollars. So why should you be compensated further after playing the game for 3 years. What game compensates users after 3 years of a one time purchase? You’re lucky they didn’t create a new game altogether.

You post this like Factions and Nightfall don’t exist.

Haha yeah, it existed 10 years ago… Times have changed, businesses change, its 2015, get with the time baby.

Yeah, in 2015 90% of MMOs are F2P with cash shop. Most Subscription MMOs tank.
As ultimately opposed to 2005-2008 When Most (good) MMOs were subscribed.
So yes, good example.

LOL! SO why are you here? I don’t need to convince you with an example. From the start Arena Net said they are trying their own unique model.. SO here it, enjoy! Or goodbye!

The white knighting you’re doing is absolutely disgusting. A-Net is ripping all the current players off with the pricing, and without compensation via gem store stuff, they may be finding Maguuma to be far less busy than they hoped.

LOL! A company worth millions of dollars with professional in business and management doesn’t need a white knight. You sir are too used to spending your days on the computer world of the internetz.

Without compensation via gem store stuff.. LOL come on dude. Why do you deserve free money.

Ironic your username has Maguuma and your ready to slay the Xpac 3 months before release. I can’t tell if you’re troll or not, lets hope troll.

I’d have changed to just Lavafrost, but I wasn’t aware when I made this account name. I’ve played GW1 and obtained 30/50 in the HoM. It’s also not about free money, it’s about the price being unfair to loyal customers (heck, even people who bought the game days before HoT was announced).

It’s not unfair, it’s pretty simple. Xpac is 50 bucks. Comes with the core game for free (which valued at low point $10).

2 -3 Years from now, do you expect another compensation because you jumped the gun and bought HoT at full price on release.

If 2-3 from now we get an expansion that requires and comes with core game, and HoT and I already own both then I expect a $15 discount at minimum.

Otherwise it’s like a car dealer that requires a trade in that they pay $0 on, and gives you a shiny new car for $50k. But if you don’t currently own a car you get the shiny new one for the same $50k.

Xar.1387:

So u guys can wait few years to the next expansion, and then get GW2 + HoT for free
And just pay for the three expansion.

It should be fine for most of you, cause it looks like u dont care about that u was able to play this game ealier than new players, thats going to buy GW2 + HoT now – when we lvled our characters, played pvp, pve, wvw and all this stuff

New players had the same opportunities the rest of us did to “play sooner” They didn’t take advantage of this 3year window of opportunity.

Now there’s a new opportunity, that is significantly more advantageous for people who didn’t support arenanet over the last 3 years.

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

Ephemiel.5694:

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward is $40. Shut up.

Guild Wars: Factions, $50, Guild Wars: Nightfall, $50. No. Look at EVERY expansion for World of Warcraft then come back.

Factions and Nightfall were both ENTIRE GAMES not expansions; and did not require, nor include Prophecies.
if HoT was a full Campaign, $50 would be reasonable by comparison, but it is far from it.
WoW’s stupid bussiness model is why I played GW in the first place.

Morfedel.4165:

Yeah, things like having played free living story additions wasn’t enough. I gotcha.

That was enough. That was what they promised.
They promised there wouldn’t be pay gated content.
Monies made from gems was supposed to fuel additional content.
a paid expansion inherently goes against these promises… I’m not getting what I paid for in the first place. Which I could look past, until I got shafted.

Give me as a vet something, it doesn’t have to be much. For me 2400 gems would be sufficient (which is only equivalent to 3/5 character slots a new players would get). Do that and I’ll gladly buy the super ultimate edition. Hell even an exclusive cheeso mini or skin or something for vets would’be been fine.

Jski.6180:

Quiznos.4296:

Core game for new players.
~2400 gems for vets. (Whatever 3 characters slots is)
I could go for that.

As it stands now though, also a bit strange, the core game is no longer for sale… So we can’t even compare price points.

Why do vets have to pay twice?

The the thing your not paying twice your just getting something free. If the base game was not there would this still be an issue? Just ask your self that.

If the base game was not there I would find it ridiculous that the expansion costs the same as the original game. But I’d probably accept it.
BUT that’s not the case; as it stands:
New players get the expansion and core (assuming heroic edition, as sku doesn’t exist for ‘normal’ edition anymore)) for $50.
A vet player gets expansion and ‘normal edition’ core for $110.
Or sticks with just the ‘normal’ core for $60. (Unless they got a HoT beta which upgraded people to heroic).

Long story short; “Pay once, Play forever”, is more like “Pay more or Play less” (which eerily sounds almost subscribery)

If I’m a returning player, which I am. What am I getting for free?

jihm.2315:

if you want to start from zero by all means they give you a second account ,
if you want to continue with your existing account bonuses then you upgrade with the expansion.
its simple as that and i dont know why so many people dont get it

It’s not much to get: Anet is shafting us.
Pay once. Play forever. No paid expansions. …bullkitten.
We don’t want anyone to feel like they have to buy the expansion… Bullkitten.
Idk. Seems to me that A net is putting the money where their mouth is (a mouth full of foot might I add). Currently HoT is worth $50-100
Core game is worth $0
Think they’ll pay any attention to the core game and it’s players? No. Focus will be entirely on HoT. People who don’t upgrade will face significantly more difficulties, balance issues, not see any more living world. The parts of the game they have access to will become broken in one fashion or another. You basically have to upgrade now.

Until a net ascribes a value to the core game, (who’s SKU doesn’t even exist anymore) I cannot believe they …well …value it, or its players.

Core game for new players.
~2400 gems for vets. (Whatever 3 characters slots is)
I could go for that.

As it stands now though, also a bit strange, the core game is no longer for sale… So we can’t even compare price points.

Why do vets have to pay twice?

Turtle’s proposition seems the most “fair”
Kinda BS that I have to pay more for being an existing customer.

Add back mystic forge pls pls pls

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Still, if it bothers you to finish a map again, you don’t need to. It won’t give you any reward, or change anything you have already accomplished.

As long as map complete for legendary consideration isn’t affected I’m cool with it & encourage it. In the past it’s been a mixed bag with these things.

Fyi I like new content, and want it.
I just don’t like the idea of my world completion % continually dropping. It’s just a pain in the butt.
“I only have 2 maps left!” Patch. “…4 maps”

Psycho Robot.7835:

Julie Yann.5379:

Fermi.2409:

Julie Yann.5379:

They don’t need the big fugly blue shield to know we have aegis all they have to do is target us and look at the icons below our names where all the boons/condi are displayed for everybody in game.

It’s easier to just keep looking at the opponent’s character then it is to look up every half second to see if they’ve applied a boon or not

If you follow that logic, they should make a big semitransparent animation for every other boon and condition to make it easier for everybody to know what has been applied.

This is where the argument that it’s an important visual cue starts to fall apart. Stability is just as an important boon as aegis, maybe even more so, but it has no visual cue at all, let alone one as obvious as aegis.

Honestly wish I could see stab…
Most other boons conds have some sort of visual cue

Just wondering if everything is gonna get completely moved around again… More so, are things getting added? I’m bothered every time I have to revisit maps to recomplete them…

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Basandra Skye.4031:

Galeskyring.9617:

Hopefully arenanet will listen to its community and not go through this this specific change, all else in what the discussed there is fine, nice refreshing changes but this bit towards cripple and chill I hope they do not go forward with.

You mean NOT listen to the highly vocal tiny minority on the forums?

FYI, immobilization was the counterplay to gap closer skills. Cant use those skills when you’re locked from moving at all.

Let me guess, Thief or Warrior main.

Necro mains are almost universally against this change. Mesmers and Eles are probably ambivalent, Engineers, Guardians, and Rangers likely find it fair, and Thieves and Warrior mains seem to think it’s a fantastic idea.

Unsurprisingly, this lines up with how good or bad this change is to the particular profession. Warriors have no chills and few cripples, but tons of dashes/leaps. Of course they want this change to go through! Necros, meanwhile, rely on cripples and chill to have any hope of keeping someone in combat with them and have no dashes or leaps themselves. This change is harsh, harsh nerf to the profession.

My 3 mains are guardian, ranger, engineer. From the different perspectives: guardian I won’t be affected much. Ranger = crips. Engi = chill. All three have leaps that could be advantaged by the changes… But I still loathe the concept of them. Logically it just makes NO sense to me.

Aside from: mistform, rocket boots, rifle jump, and things involving wings. (“Winged” skills should be helped by swiftness).

Purely from a logic standpoint, I consider leaps in 3 categories:
leg leaps = crippled, chilled, swift should affect distance.
Tech leaps & ‘other’ = unaffected by all
‘Winged’ leaps = swiftness only

It is but it isn’t. The new system, like the old, didn’t affectt your stats per se. But did affect specific sets of skills. But more on a points scale level than the additional affects trait system we have now

This has never occurred to me… But I Want it!

A few ticks from dead last night in PvP. Cripped and ran from a war. His leap fell short. Buying me just enough time for health to come off CD. Turned around and took him out. This was AMAZING. now… I’ll just die. And he won’t /S “wow, nice move. GG”

He also managed to get away from me just fine 1-2 times in the same match by just waiting for me to crip at the wrong time.

I support the idea of sorting 99.9% total completion → 0% and having a “hide complete” or “completed to bottom” check box or something

Psycho Robot.7835:

Quiznos.4296:

Why not just have a double/chain?
Activate aegis for all -> ‘explode’ aegis
I’d like this for a variety of reasons, but that way you could pop it when you don’t want to see it

This isn’t a horrible idea, but wouldn’t it still require constantly using the skill every time it went off cooldown? I’ve often wondered why aegis applies itself automatically anyways. Shouldn’t it be actively applied like other buffs? It’s basically the reverse of blindness so why do guardians not control it like thieves control blindness?

Or they could just make it work more similarly to (opposite of) virtue of justice. Gets applied every 5th time you’re hit and instead of displaying the shield on the character put a shield wall or something at the skill bar like Justice has the blue flames.

Personally I like being able to see aegis myself, and how it currently functions, BUT I definitely see where others are coming from.

I would like to give whoever decided Joe-Ton was the pronunciation a piece of my mind.

I’ve been having the same happen, as well as my gf

i started getting this, followed by a “videocard issue” warning message since the most recent patch
maybe the build they just released fixed your problem and broke mine

pdavis.8031:

Ayrilana.1396:

I don’t see why event items should be in the wallet.

I agree. It just makes the wallet that much more cluttered.
Event items are temporary, and should be treated as such.

My biggest thing about the event items are having “odd” amounts. Not having enough to use them and be rid of them, and not willing to destroy them, because “There might be a need for them next year!” But thats more of a personal problem than anything….

If event items will never make a reappearance they should be patched to show as junk
that alone would solve issues

Why not just have a double/chain?
Activate aegis for all → ‘explode’ aegis
I’d like this for a variety of reasons, but that way you could pop it when you don’t want to see it

Pockets.3201:

Quiznos.4296:

Pockets.3201:

DresdenAllblack.1249:

it’s odd to me how a small percentile of us want their characters to look…average. I understand in RL the sentiment, that all of us are the same…blah, blah, blah

But isn’t the goal to look heroic?

Some like to look heroic, yes.

But my character doesn’t look all that heroic when she doesn’t have the build needed to swing around that greatsword she is carrying around. Don’t need to be a bodybuilder, but athletic would be nice.

Out of curiosity, do you think it would make sense to make certain body types tied to certain professions (like armor is)?
I doubt other people would want this, they’d likely prefer choice, but it would make sense to me.

personally I want a she hulk option

Not really.

Its not like being a caster type would preclude you from working out, for instance. I suppose you could be a really lazy warrior as well.

Besides, there should always be room to be a muscle wizard.
http://i.imgur.com/cJikS3x.png

Hahaha that’s great.
by she hulk btw I forgot about the actual she hulk character. I was more thinking hulk, but female.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/62502-female-bodybuilder-pictures-female_muscle_18_by_bigdane.jpg

Pockets.3201:

DresdenAllblack.1249:

it’s odd to me how a small percentile of us want their characters to look…average. I understand in RL the sentiment, that all of us are the same…blah, blah, blah

But isn’t the goal to look heroic?

Some like to look heroic, yes.

But my character doesn’t look all that heroic when she doesn’t have the build needed to swing around that greatsword she is carrying around. Don’t need to be a bodybuilder, but athletic would be nice.

Out of curiosity, do you think it would make sense to make certain body types tied to certain professions (like armor is)?
I doubt other people would want this, they’d likely prefer choice, but it would make sense to me.

personally I want a she hulk option

Atlas Tsahalla.2456:

Rod.6581:

Any info if blade shards will be in wallet too?

Wh-what the…

I have 4 Blade Shards and keep them in my bank near the other rare items I have. I don’t even know where I got them from.
But you have….1, 2, 3,…6,178 of them o.O

Home instance node farming perhaps

Idk about you guys, but if I took an arrow to the knee I couldn’t walk very well, nor could I easily jump.
Really cold outside, I cramp up, can’t run nor jump very well.
I can jump much further from a sprint, than I can standing still or from a walk.

I see no reason whatsoever for these changes, it goes against simple plain logic.

Not to mention counterplay, or rewarding those who can combine boons and leaps.

“making the game easier to understand” by going against logic.

I was thinking exactly the same. Specifically comparison of retaliation vs confusion.

They should really have this information stated on the leaderboard page… It would really save people some confusion.
Just a simple “BETA” splash.
or just pull the boards down until They’re actually indicative of something