That’s because the Charr didn’t have any settlements in Ascalon, silly man. They were mostly nomadic in GW1, modeled roughly after RL Mongolians. They “owned” a whole lot more territory than they actually lived in.
This is not an answer. Even nomads have settlements, temporary ones, but still. “B-but they are nomads” doesn’t explain complete absence of charr on Ascalon territory.
Ehh? I dont recall the humans trying to expand beyond the wall. If i remember correctly from gw1 they were rather content with the area they already had. The only expansions beyond the wall were scouting missions due the fear of a charr inversion.
And as if the charr were anymore willing to negotiate. They killed/enslaved any human on sight.
I think it is pretty clear that the charr were the aggressors in gw1 not the humans.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Great_Northern_Wall The Great Northern Wall, referred to as Northern Wall, the Great Wall, and the Wall for short, began construction in 898 AE; it stretches from the Shiverpeak Mountains in the west, to the Eastern Frontier. It was built before the start of the latest Guild Wars, when the Charr threat began to appear imminent once again. The Wall was erected to protect the bulk of the Ascalon kingdom. However, over time the Ascalonians began expanding north beyond the Wall, establishing cities not protected by the Wall, including Surmia, Nolani, and Drascir, which became the capital until it fell during the Charr invasion.
Huh? Ascalonians never inflicted genocide on the Charr, I don’t know where you get that. They pushed them out of the Basin via warfare, then left them alone.
Have you seen a single charr tribe, settlement or even a specimen in Ascalon? Or every single member of tribes living here was hostile and decided to migrate or suicide? “Pushed out”, uh-huh.
Expected yes but not justified. The humans that got their land taken from the charr werent the ones that that took it from the charr long time ago. By the time the searing happend it was already human land and not charr land anymore.
Also a genocide in the past doesnt justify a genocide in the present.
Ascalon was already expanding to north, beyond Wall, becoming stronger with each new settlement and not showing any will to negotiate with charr. I guess it was pretty clear what charr could expect from that.
wasn’t Ascalon Grawl inhabited and the charr occupied it and them?
the charr took it from the grawl first, so i don’t think you can call it homeland in the sense of “land of origin” or even “charrland”. “Grawl are originally native to the lands now called Ascalon. When the charr invaded over a millennia ago, they subjugated the grawl into slaves and forced a large number of them to flee into the Shiverpeak and Blazeridge Mountains, where their descendants still remain today. According to charr military tributes which predate the humans’ arrival to the land in 100 BE, those that remained in Ascalon as the charr’s slaves were forced into roles such as pulling charr chariots.” http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grawl
I don’t call it homeland (though for everyone who was born here is can be called such), but it was charr land when humans came and took it by force.
Acsalon was never charr homeland. I dont see how one conquerer is more justified then another. Infact both the humans and charr dont really have a justified claim. Both just took it by force. The humans once and the charr even twice.
But its still was charr land, and humans took it and completely genocide charr who lived there. So ruthless retaliation (especially against Ascalon) was pretty expected.
More over, it’s 400-500h when you know the game perfectly well and focus only on it, and with discordway and/or sabway. Average time to get it is nowhere close to this.
Or just spend some $$$ and make it much-much easier. So much for effort, kek.
Do you really not think that could have just as easily(if not easier) been done with Ascalon?
Lets see… paranoid king without slightest idea about diplomacy, full isolationist mode (surely ambassador to Cantha will help, uh-huh. Oh wait, we didn’t see any Ascalon ambassador in Cantha in actual game), burned land, burned cities except Ascalon city, no signs of charr force being pushed out…
Yes, surely it will be restored to its full glory in no time. Except it’s not. And this is official canon. Yeah.
2003-2005
Arena Net Bellevue, WA World Designer/Story Creator
Led story creation and creative direction for Guild Wars, a AAA PC game with over 1.5 million sales in its first year.
Authored story outlines for Guild Wars Core Campaign and Guild Wars Factions.
Designed game and mission mechanics.
Wrote all mission and cut-scene scripts, along with high-resolution marketing cinematics.
Wrote and directed all in-game voiceover.
Wrote monthly short fiction for Guildwars.com.
Responsible for creation of large online fan fiction community.
2005-2006
Arena Net Bellevue, WA Producer
Produced all in-game voiceover, including managing casting, budgets, voice direction, and recording sessions.
Managed team of four writers and cut-scene director.
Wrote and produced all high-resolution game trailers.
Produced all printed materials, including strategy guides, game manuals, marketing documentation, art books, and manga.
Pitched stories to all major gaming magazines.
Acted as spokesperson for Guild Wars and Arena Net in interviews with major game media: CBS, G4 Tech TV, IGN, Gamespy, Play Magazine, Computer Games Magazine, Computer Gaming World.
Gave interviews to international news media outlets in Korea, Taiwan, Germany, France, and Japan.
Helped develop print media business: manga, novels, and printed games.
I suppose he could be lying. :-/
So as expected, he only was leading one, not only one.
It was a rhetorical question, I’m not going to do your work for you. Either look on my past posts, research the game better than just a “wiki skim”, or even better, go outside official ANet channels.
There you go, I gave you 3 places to start. Good luck! =D
So you asking me to search proofs for your point? Nice try, but not gonna work. You made a statement about mysterious lore writer, so it’s your job to prove it.
E incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat.
Ad hominem plus Appeal to emotion, two logical fallacies in one post. A discussion in lore is done by exchanging opinions, arguments and proof for the latter. How about some arguments from you?
Headcanon, funny.
My arguments are named “Gw2 and current lore”. For some reason I think they are quite solid.
I prefer to get ~2 mins queue and sometimes face a premade team instead of wait way longer to guarantee that I’ll face other single players
This is an outright lie. SoloQ was MUCH faster than teamQ, and only reason why soloQ was deleted was constantly growing queue times for teamQ.
“Nobody wants to play with premades, we have to do something. Oh, right, lets delete anything but premade queue! Brilliant!”
Why so much care about those skins, lol. Relics are just way to close last gaps in collection, nothing more.
And “prestige” – while you can just pay 20g per day for free f50 kill? Really?
Only really good thing in top fractals are chests, because I have lots of alts and planning to make even more.
Honestly though, to me that would mean that love doesn’t matter much to her, as the mainstream charr society seems to not care about romantic involvement. Relationships appear to mostly be one-time things, and sex is primarily for the purpose of churning out more soldiers for the Legions. Charr don’t really seem to understand love the way humans do. I get the feeling charr “love” is closer to a strong sense of mutual respect for each others’ strength and skill than romance.
That’s wrong, tho.
Ember snorted, "Oh, I understand. Charr relationships have all that stage drama as well. We on occasion mate for life, though our relationships are usually more casual, and we have more than our share of jealousies, rivalries, expectations, and disappointments. Lovers come together, break apart, and come together years later. We recognize families, though our children enter the fahrar of one of their parents’ legion once they have been weaned. There we learn how to fight alongside others and form bonds stronger than family or affection.
Fun fact – GW2 Adelbern =/= GW1 Adelbern. Learn to think critically and find reasons why writers and narrative designers do what they do. GW1 Adelbern was stubborn and a bad father, but he was no genocidal maniac. That’s GW2 writing. He’s a fall-guy, used to validate the Charr hegemony in Ascalon. Nothing more.
Pls stop making things up. You have proofs about GW1 lore writing team being fired and not participating in developing of GW2 or what? Or maybe there was a psychiatrist at the end of GW1 campaign who gives you a medical paper with stamp about Adelbern being perfectly sane and normal person?
You don’t like Ascalon downfall – fine, but stop trying to rewrite game lore around your headcanon.
Oh there is something that cannot be done while brain afk, Anet please remove it!
You never seen her done with stealth+1 kiter? Trin is just a “Timegate: the Boss”, nothing more. Oh, ofc you can go without stealth and make it even more boring due to more wasted time to run around. So much challenge.
Im not to worried about rewards. I think if the daily achieves are rewarding enough then the incentive to do other fractals will be enough.
However I am very concerned about progression. Please do not allow players to progress by getting carried on an easy high fractal. Players should be required to do each scale to progress to the next. Skipping out scales should halt your progress.
Please don’t tell others to play how you want them to play. If you like to waste time for BS long runs because you think it’s “fun” – feel free, but make you own group for people like you.
Revert ALL adrenaline-related nerfs, make warrior sprint and fast hands baseline, add old banner CD and radius trait to healing one, revert warhorn nerf, combine all Tactics minor traits into one, restore SoR signet buffs back to 30s.
This will give some diversity back.
Well keep in mind that the Charr-Human treaty’s only been in effect for four years now. Plenty of people on both sides will be veterans of the conflict and have deep seated feelings about the other race. Peace or no peace, they could well see just being friends, let alone lovers, as a betrayal of the memory of those who died.
In fact, Charr-Human war stopped long time ago, except Ebonhawke, and even in DR people was quite unhappy about being involved in that, see Ghosts of Ascalon book. Only descendants of ascalonians holds a grudge.
An interracial couple such as this would be shunned and most likely even hated by a large part of its own people.
Because? Remember, this is a world where everyone used to see other races nearby. Majority of people don’t care at all about someone else personal preferences, if it’s not affecting their own lives.
Burn guard working as intended, l2p.
Mesmer burst working as intended, l2p.
Engi grenades working as intended, l2p.
Turret engi working as intended, l2p.
Shoutbow working as intended, l2p.
Decap engi working as intended, l2p.
Fear chains working as intended, l2p.
Spirit ranger working as intended, l2p.
I just love reading pvp forums. Obviously every major balance shift bringing up some incredibly skilled guys who always telling others l2p.
If charr is gladium or like PC, assigned for permanent mission outside of legion structure, it will be possible. If this happening in city like LA, Hoelbrak or Rata Sum – no one gonna care about who you are or who is your partner as long as you are law-abiding citizens.
Only real problem will be claws. Those scratches can be painful.
Buying fractals NEVER worth money spent, unless you are very rich or cannot run by yourself and want fractal skins that much. Crafting one ascended weapon is like 50g, and you will not get boxes often enough to compensate 20g paid for 50 fractal.
1. Warhorn looks godkitten ugly.
2. Warhorn animations are godkitten ugly.
3. Legendary warhorn not fits for ele at all.
4. Dagger and scepter both are piece of useless crap outside of pvp.
5. Bolt have ONLY decent legendary aura fit for ele.
And I not even started about “awesome” WH abilities.
Stacking in Dungeons has been a long and unforgettable plague in Guild Wars 2.
This is a serious problem that needs to be made even MORE clearer to Arenanet.
Please Look at this Screenshot. I am glad this isnt as bad as people bad mouthing, disbanding, or kicking, but this is still relevant.
I hate stacking, it takes the fun away to straight boring.
I know I am not the only one who experiences this, but must I remind Anet, 90% of people running Dungeons will stack, and if one refuses to play the game incorrectly, you are hated and removed near immediate.
I am not just talking about standing on top of each other. This is picking a corning or a wedge in the wall, fusing the party into a monster of 10 arms. A corner that best fits this method of gameplay is a spot that ignores or avoids the environmental challenges that the dungeon provides. This is straight cheating…
Not matter how I feel about this, people will just keep on kicking. A solid records was getting kicked 4 consecutive times in a row. I know i am not the only one out there.
Are people really afraid to play this game correctly? Don’t get me started on people Stealth-ing through the dungeon.
Hint – you joined their party, you follow their rules. If you don’t like it – feel free to make your own “no stack or kick” one.
That said, Eles making a fuss about Warhorn is silly. Warhorn is pretty great on all three classes it is on.
As secondary choice weapon with support abilities on it. Problem is, ele already have tons of support abilities, and WH will unlikely give something really useful like projectile reflect. I’d prefer to see something more offensive for offhand, like sword.
Rofl. I smell p2w. Now you not olny lose new class+elite specs if all you do is pvp, but you also lose champions which may give you advantage over enemy team. In b4 gemstore champions, olny 1000gems each.
I can add even more, you have to BUY Guild Wars 2 to be able to play pvp at all! What a horrible p2w!
Perhaps the most remarkable difference between Kryta and Ascalon is how they each dealt with the Charr threat. Kryta’s king fled the country, and they willingly let themselves become virtual slaves in order to survive it and see another day. Ascalon’s king basically says kitten it, we’re not running from this even if it kills us all. Minus Rurik and the refugees of course.
It’s rather telling of ANet’s future writers that they decide to validate Kryta and incriminate Ascalon. Lesson learned: safety is more important than freedom.
Fun fact – dead are not free. They are dead. Adelbern was a horrible example of the king, he not just completely failed as leader and lost his war due to his foolish stubbornness, but he also betrayed and killed even those who managed to survive his failures.
It’s in ED. The “present day” is post-Charr conflict. The word “recovering” could mean many things, sure. I suppose the definition of it suffices though: return to a normal state of health, mind, or strength. “Normal” for Ascalon wasn’t just pre-Searing, but pre-Charr invasion of the north.
So “recovering”, but already “return”? That’s not how things work. If someone punched you in your face hard, but you managed to get up, that doesn’t mean “wohoo, fight is over and I won!”.
We see only one charr farm in-game (the heart in Diessa) who’s a bit of a secluded odd-ball charr; the rest are ranchers. The cub wanting to be a farmer may be wanting to be something unusual.
All we know of Ermenred’s timeline is that he left Ascalon after the Flameseeker Prophecies were completed and the Charr “conflict” was over in Ascalon.
Source on that. And no, “recovering” does not mean “it’s over”.
