Guild Wars 2

DH better stop attacking people through gates or I’m gonna start calling them all hackers.

Arius.7031:

Rhyis.7058:

Skapocalypse.5236

The portal hopping is fine it’s intended game mechanic but staying in one spot to avoid AOE and abusing the rendering is an abuse of game mechanics. I don’t see Northern Shiverpeaks doing this I don’t see DarkHaven doing this. In fact this is the first server I have seen doing it. Just because other servers before us were abusing it against you doesn’t mean they were any more right in abusing it then you are now. But stay classy and say whatever you want to help you sleep at night.

Every server in T1-T4 portal bombs and stacks . If you ever move up, you will see this in every single match. It’s not an exploit in any way shape or form. Every other server we’ve fought knows how to counter it (Mag does as well), too bad DH hasn’t figured it out yet… It’s not even hard.

You low tier servers are always a laugh.

Yeah, sorry for not being a high tier server. We weren’t as lucky as you, we didn’t get tons of highly organized guilds to join our server at launch. The only reason we’re even here is because we worked really hard to get organized. So laugh at us as much as you want. We’re new to the higher tiers, and we can’t help it. Oh, and by the way, I regret to inform you, if you’re from Maguuma you are now a low tier server just like the rest of us—welcome to the family.

P.S. I still haven’t formed an opinion on the subject, but the phrase “all the cool kids are doing it” is what’s coming to mind every time I hear someone (except the gentleman I was talking to earlier) describes why it’s okay for Maguuma to do what it’s doing.

If you complain about this, do you also complain about AoE through gate doors? Or hiding mesmers in keeps after a failed defense? Or other various tactics every server uses in WvW. You’re coming off as insanely whiny and inexperienced and it’s annoying as all hell.

Skapocalypse.5236

The portal hopping is fine it’s intended game mechanic but staying in one spot to avoid AOE and abusing the rendering is an abuse of game mechanics. I don’t see Northern Shiverpeaks doing this I don’t see DarkHaven doing this. In fact this is the first server I have seen doing it. Just because other servers before us were abusing it against you doesn’t mean they were any more right in abusing it then you are now. But stay classy and say whatever you want to help you sleep at night.

Every server in T1-T4 portal bombs and stacks . If you ever move up, you will see this in every single match. It’s not an exploit in any way shape or form. Every other server we’ve fought knows how to counter it (Mag does as well), too bad DH hasn’t figured it out yet… It’s not even hard.

You low tier servers are always a laugh.

Dude, Mag has multiple rams on top their keep walls at this very moment. Incorrect treb placement is just some guy who hasn’t done WvW before.

Are there legitimate exploit/hackers going around or are you just getting killed by tactics you haven’t seen because you haven’t fought in this bracket or higher yet? The former happens on all servers by a couple individuals that need to be banned instantaneously. Mag wants nothing to do with cheater either and will report our own if we see it. If it’s the latter, well, welcome to some tactics we’ve either learned or developed ourselves along the way against the better tiered servers.

Edit: lol, wait. The tactics are some random newbies are taking supplies out of your towers/keeps… lol, every server has randoms that take supply out of towers/keeps. Welcome to WvW. And on top of that you’re trying to get them banned for it? Wow lol. DH might be right up there with Ehmry Bay in terms of throwing out crazy tinfoil hat conspiracies.

This isn’t DAoC, nor is it 2003. There is no controlling the zerg, it does what it wants. Most guilds can’t even work with guilds on their own server, let alone align themselves with an opposing force.

Naracion.6597

I didn’t play DAOC but from what I understand the whole reasons three factions worked so well was because the two factions that were not winning would label “target priority” as the top server. So I’m kinda under the impression (that either by intention or by simple normal flow) that cross server alliances are allowed.

Every time you walk into WvW, 2 servers will be attacking the other. Every. Single. Time. The people that scream alliances are afoot are always those that have absolutely no idea what’s going on.

And miniature Maguuma flags.

sil.4160

Maguuma have been using this tactic all week. They come in from behind to attack the same keep while the other two servers been fighting each other, hoping to sneak cap it while the two hostiles are too busy to realize what have happened.

We’ve been doing it since Henge did it to us the very first day of WvW. There are certain tactics that servers love, and that is one we absolutely adore.

There’s nothing more satisfying then pissing off both opposing servers at the exact same time.

Drekor.5217

Also ground target should go to 1200 not 900 >_<

This is my only complaint. Considering the power of the wells, I have no issue whatsoever with the cooldowns.

Thenoob.1480:

By the way, for those on Maguuma wondering how I got into your db borderland hill keep, its no hack, there’s a little path from our spawn into the keep that I pointed out I believe 2 weeks ago, shall I take your orb out again in 2 minutes?
Admittedly I didn’t show where the entrance to said path is.

This is an exploit and you should be banned for doing it. Speaking as an Maguuman.

There is no password to change.

As somebody else said, every server has hackers on it. Nothing you can really do about it but report them even if they’re on your own server. I think cheating has actually been kept to a minimum this week. A couple keep glitchers and the odd no-clip flying fool, but otherwise not bad.

All you can really do is report them and eventually they’ll get weeded out.

JackJack.2478:

mag mumble server such fun! Nowadays even if I don’t have time to wvw I still hop on mumble while eating/working/sleeping just to listen to you guys

Somebody find the Barry White mumble clone for this man immediately.

I’m almost positive it’s 100 per map. Eternal might be slightly different.

Guild Wars Fan.3249

Now, one last comment in response to Rhyis.7058 suggestion that I had written a long post bagging Maguuma, I can only say that if you re-read the post you will notice that most of the original post was in fact praising the behaviour of the Maguuma players I have run across / interacted with, praising your servers tactical and strategic ability, and basically saying what I have said in the previous paragraphs in a slightly less diplomatic fashion. All of which elicited a response which avoided 90% of the original post. If this is your idea of a rebuttal, then I’m afraid you missed the point entirely.

With the exception of a single sentence, your entire post was negative towards Mag. Don’t pretend you’re the one taking the high road when your words are there for all to read, it isn’t going to fly. This is a recruitment thread, stop kittening it up.

Phoenixfudge.5290:

I’m currently in Dragonbrand and Maguuma is full of campers in the jumping puzzle. Seriously, I remember playing Darkhaven and most of em were nice enough not to gang up on people in the jumping puzzle. Whenever I go to the jumping puzzle with a group we never attack solo’ers.

Maguuma is a server will happily farm any and all jump puzzlers until the end of days.

Guild Wars Fan.3249:

hahah…nice thread…started so well, then the inevitable degeneration into sh.. er mud slinging… ah well….all servers have idiots (I’m from SoS and I am almost certain I’m one of them, the number of times I saw these smart Maguuma invaders run out individually and attack a group of 5 or 6 of the enemy was just ludicrous….half the time the ‘defenders’ barely even slowed down, other than to look around for the ‘real’ attack. “That was a feint right? just trying to distract us from the real attack? wasn’t it? >shrug<”

I’m not knocking all of Maguuma. I’m making the point that it is very easy to come up with examples of how uselss/hopeless/stupid another server is based on a few examples.

For a supposedly ‘nice’ server, the amount of er, mud slinging that I see from your community advocates is most enlightening. Perhaps if you intend to sell yourselves as a great, fun community you could show us by following your self-professed principles of not being rude or belligerent in turn.

No one (least of all myself) is trying to knock Maguuma as a server. In fact, many of us (as evidenced by multiple people saying this in various threads) have great respect for Maguuma and for your tactical and strategic abilities and for your general courtesy. Its noticeable. SpaceDad has told us that he is in Sales – as such I would have expected to read his posts and think to myself something like “wow, Maguuma sounds great! I might go check them out” as opposed to “hmm…some nice stuff in there, but, the delivery could use a little diplomacy/work”. Perhaps you are more interested in creating a flame-thread to drum up more business???

I always chuckle when somebody makes a “I’m not <insert something>, but…” post. For somebody that isn’t trying to knock Mag, you sure made a long post about things you don’t like about Mag.

Future reference; if you start a conversation with “I’m not a racist but…”, you are in fact a racist. Just a heads up.

Elterzzz.4378:

Rhyis.7058:

If nothing else, SoS defends Dreaming Bay well. That seems to be their version the Mag Alamo.

Otherwise, yeah. SoSers are extremely zergy. You can read their movements long before they even make them.

Did you give up on your seige? i afk’d on the wall this whole time and tabbed back to see you guys run away.
For now we act as a zerg, not our primetime to do anything very organised… tbh not even our week to be organised. next week we will take things more seriously.

Those two pushes were actually just to drain your fully supply and, if the stars aligned, clear all the siege. It wasn’t exactly a real attack.

If nothing else, SoS defends Dreaming Bay well. That seems to be their version the Mag Alamo.

Otherwise, yeah. SoSers are extremely zergy. You can read their movements long before they even make them.

Groggy.4761:

So basically all the posts and talk about what a wonderful community Maguuma is only holds true if you’re in Goon’s mumble, following Goon’s orders and being a good little “pubbie”?

The OP is not a Goon, but is one of the most respected commanders on the server. When he talks, people listen. Nice try though.

Well no, that statement was in fact directed to me.

Avatara.1042

It is people like you that make us want to build more quarantine zones around Maguuma spawnpoints.

The funny thing about this statement is I’m one of those guys that spent more time in the Alamo and Pangloss then I care to share. The Maguumans you seem to like so much, I am one of them.

If fighting other oceanic players was actually important to you, you’d have joined an oceanic server from the get go. You’re playing in the NA bracket what the kitten did you expect? You are the anomaly, not the NA players. Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t have an issue with oceanic players playing on NA servers. I do however have an issue with an entire oceanic server inside the NA bracket telling the NA players it’s their fault they have nobody to fight. That’s straight up kitten

Except you don’t have to fight anybody when you wake up. You just had to roll into the undefended keeps and gain the points.

The opposing NA teams had to beat each other over with clubs for what they wanted, but never got to get any retribution against the server who was night capping them. The difference between the two situations is worlds apart.

Me, I’m not even a big score guy. I could really care less. I just like good fights. I can sit in a supply camp for hours on end (and have) while murdering some fools instead of pounding my face against a keep door. The issue is, all of last week I don’t think I even saw an SoS player. How am I supposed to have fun killing an opposing server when I did not see any players from the server. It sucks. I’ve fought tons of other servers and enjoyed the matches. SoS is not an enjoyable server to play against, even in the least. The only way to not shoot yourself in the head is to do some extremely wacky adventures like Ramelot and such.

Avatara.1042:

Oh, one other thing: if both the US servers we were facing were good, we could actually be at an advantage, as they would split the map for 12 hours or so. However, every darn time, one of the US servers would fail us. For example, last week Maguuma failed us.

When it was 1v1 (FA vs Mag) during NA hours like last week, numbers are absolutely everything. You don’t have that 3rd faction to split the forces so a zerg swarm is a much more viable strategy than if there’s an entirely different army that can use it’s numbers alongside your own, while not being part of your poplock.

This is why NA servers do not like SoS (previous to this current match up, as this is a different kettle of fish atm). You made matches not fun and you aren’t even aware of it. It seems like you guys like Mag (and who wouldn’t? we do hilarious stuff), but we sure as hell don’t like SoS.

Because they are winning this week. The week after those same people will transfer to whoever is beating SoS… It’s not complicated.

Looks like SoS picked up some NA players this round. Last week you guys mostly just showed up between 3am-3pm EST but now you got some strength all the time it seems. DB used to have a strong Oceanic presence the first time we fought them, but I guess they lost those players along the way. Mag, as always, has almost no Oceanic players so SoS is insanely annoying to fight. But at least we can have some actual PvP with SoS this time around instead of only lose stuff in the off hours.

By commander, do you mean somebody with the commander tome or an individual actually worth listening to? Because 2 out of the 3 Maguuma tacticians do not have commander tomes.

Badwrong.3596

Don’t try to jump into the middle of something without reading it all. I never once complained about using choke points and siege. I said in the EXACT same post that I also have held Pangloss with lots of siege pointed at the chokepoins. Its a great tactic and its a real easy spot to cut off some supply near an opponents spawn.

The guy was bragging about FA only flips keeps and he engages in “real PVP”. Which is pretty silly, since what he did isn’t the real “PVP” he described. I’m not saying any of this is bad, I’m just pointing out his broken logic against his own words. Of course, reading would have made this clear if you had done it.

Player vs Door is not PvP, in any sense of the word. You set up some siege and auto-attack an defended keep. Doing nothing but killing the opposing faction in a supply camp is the definition of PvP.

How this is complicated for you is baffling.

How can murdering players be far from “actual pvp”. PvP is just the act of killing other players. How that happens is irrelevant.

And yes, EB is the terrible land of grub killing pubbies. I never go there either unless it’s for Pangloss adventures.

Mag fields 2 full borderlands on the weekend and outmanned in the other 2 every weekend. That isn’t an opinion, that’s just how it is.

And we held Etheron Hills keep in Fort Aspen BL against continual hammering from both SoS and FA for 52 hours this match up with the odd supply camp off and on. Maguuma Alamo beats SoS’s silly little 8 hour defense.

Badwrong.3596:

Coming from Fort Aspenwood I have experienced the absolute opposite of what you are saying. You guys have plenty of people, you just don’t put them in the right places at the right times. For example, the last two nights have been extremely boring WvW because all your people just fortify a supply camp. Which is cool, if you want to just hold that… but while you are holding it, we own 90% of all the other stuff on all the maps. This is really really boring. I know a few MaGOONba guilds were trying to hold the south supply in FA BL around 8pm last night. There were maybe 40 of them? We managed to kill them all with about 15 of us, using hit and run tactics… lure a few into overextending and then kill. It was a fun fight, but at one point they all just gave up and bunched up on the supply node for whatever dumb reason. My mesmer friend killed a crapload of them with feedback.

Just saying, if you guys actually took group of 10 or so around the map to take towers here and there, we might have some good fights starting.

Ive also noticed you guys fortify pangloss sometimes. SO basically all our random PUGs who just entered EB will slowly trickle in and die to ballista. I guess if thats fun, more power to ya. A few of us heard about it and we just had warriors run in with endure pain, fear bomb, hammer CC and wipe the cave out. So I dunno if you guys are getting an illusion of success when you hold a single supply camp against the random PUGS trying to hit it 2-3 at a time.

And the ram thing at a camp… I have no idea why someone tried golems on it, trebs from the tower north of it would destroy everything.

I guess I sound like a complaining jerk… maybe I am, apologies. But if your server is just keen on holding single supply camps, its a really really boring WvW for us, because SoS can’t put up a fight when they sleep and we are stuck with 90% of the map while you guys don’t do anything.

You are officially on crack if you believe Mag has any kind of queue inside WvW at all. Unless there’s some big push on a borderlands, and literally everybody from all the other borderlands converge on a single borderlands (which has happened twice this week), there are absolutely no queues to be had on Mag. We’re lucky to properly field 2 borderlands on the weekend, let alone get queues for them all.

Also Pangloss had exactly 20 Mag inside it, and I came out with significantly more then 200 kills inside of an hour against multiple large pushes. Hell, we killed 2 golems in there. That’s a kitten sweet kill to death ratio. But hey, if you want to play player vs door and flip the towers for karma all day, you go right ahead. Mag will continue to farm your server and play this as player vs player game.

I’m assuming you didn’t visit camp ramalot then? I’ll post pics soo

Maguuma has 99 problems but a ram ain’t one.

Here’s a thought. Maybe you got hit for 17k because you were naked. You’ll be missing around 1k armor just as a cloth wearer. I can only imagine how much if medium or heavy.

28k total damage is 5.6k damage to 5 different targets.

That isn’t exactly groundbreaking.

Pangloss… More like Pangwin! Amirite?

Yep, murder some wanks and enjoy the fights. Honestly it’s more fun being on the losing side anyway. You get more satisfaction when you leave a pile of bodies beneath your feet because you know you earned it.

Necro well build is very strong in wvw.

Nah I leveled from 20-80. You’re only missing about 200 of each base stat. You won’t be beastly, but you won’t be useless either.

Mag just needs bodies. We don’t even fill up 2 borderlands at our prime time.

Mag fights for freedom and miniature flags.

Fort Alamo can not be taken. It is known.

Looks like I’m missing the fun. Nice job earlier today Oprey, your work is appreciated.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAW7YjQaV6Zaea87JApHPj91TK6e8IFEPMA

Did somebody honestly spout off thief as among the best wvw classes out there? You make me sad.

Is an explanation actually necessary? Just play necro in WvW for a time then switch to a class that isn’t ranger or elementalist and make the comparison yourself.

WvW is based almost entirely on AoE at 1200 range and survivability, of which necromancer has an abundance of both. Seems fairly obvious to me once you’ve laid down the theory crafting and actually played WvW as a bunch of classes.

So basically you did wvw once, died, and then complained about it.

Daikaze.6708:

I love the necromancer class… for PVE. WvW isn’t fun as a necromancer from my experience. I can soak up conditions, where the only reward seems to be the increased chance of winning. Or, I can unload/spread conditions onto the enemy force. This is great and all, but it’s so easy to remove/convert conditions and this class doesn’t offer any of the important ones (confusion is non-existent and retaliation is minimal) for WvW.

As a necromancer you typically end up stuck at 900 range trying to attack enemies, or you can stick to the staff for the extra range. Having one decent option for that range is kind of disappointing.

Bleed and poison seem to have little value in WvW, and that’s pretty much our bread and butter. Beyond that we simply make a good support class (again, WvW).

Of course, WvW isn’t the only aspect of the game.

Necro is one of the better WvW classes out there.

Because of the bugginess of corrupt boon/signet of spite/plague signet, I much prefer well spec in WvW simply because it’s reliable. Very useful build for tower offense/defense. You can mess up a ram pretty darn good.

Correct, it’s about bugged skills. :p