Guild Wars 2

That yak parade looks so epic..

@ Commander Hammerhorn Da Great

You so mad bro
Maybe you’ll learn a lesson in how to Command with a friends list Looool.
<3
noobsauce

Score update guys Night crew ftw (this is at the end of my shift)

Achievement unlocked!: Bird Song
Stats
-Double point gain for 5hours

Pretty colours eh?
And I see BP passed AR overnight. You guys only wake up on Thursday?

Kudos to Commander Evilzara and Commander Bloodthor for putting and end to our rampant terror march outside of your Klovan.
If you had seen those trebs 30seconds later? We could have probably had that too.
<3 Good fight

Evilzara.6378:

Hammerhorn.1347:

Rob.7624:

Hammerhorn.1347:

This match up is still very much a close one , it still could be anyone’s game …. Except NSP of course LoL,,,,,!!! The aspirin is in the kitchen Hun.

Do you remember when we were winning.

Ya seems like that was 2 maybe 3 months ago must suck now that you can’t get out of 3rd to save your lives…….but thanks for bein the 3rd wheel you know we love to kill yas

What are you so kitteny about? NSP is far better than your server, they just lack the numbers.

Well.
Actually we were winning for most of the start of this week against all odds.
And I agree with Zara, you seem mad bro.

Heres a cupcake on me -hands you pink frosted cuppy cake-

Score update attached (this is at the start of my shift)

Hammerhorn.1347:

This match up is still very much a close one , it still could be anyone’s game …. Except NSP of course LoL,,,,,!!! The aspirin is in the kitchen Hun.

Do you remember when we were winning.

They should put this at the top of the forums to warn new people entering.

You guys cost me 20Gold.

Kaineng I am so disappointed.
Why couldn’t you have stopped in tier 4 like agreed!

imalog.7689:

you all are just gunna tell them that its been me? really? i was content with my nickname being “Kodiak”. Let grimbeard get all the fans.

and honestly rob i apologize for all of that. In reality i was accidentally running into you while hunting for BP on our side of EB… avoid the X on the map next time i guess :S

Dw, when we set off I told them that it was a very contested map and one that training is best not to be had on.
None of us had tags on, but when pugs see me or other Os. They follow
BP creamed us too a couple of times.

Who on earth is that big norn ALS Commander which has been in EB for a few hours around this time today.

We were running some commander training. And you sir should have been at it!

But thanks, we actually used how you tried to take SM as an example of how not to do it, and why it wasn’t working. And then built on how it should have been done. Was really helpful for the guys! Thanks

<3

I felt obligated to post this.
From this mornings night shift.

Please see attachments.

You seem to be pretty mad bros.

Catisa.6507:

So NSP finally got your fair weather players to get off their backsides I see.

We told them grub drops precursors.

SniffyCube.6107:

I would like to commend you on using your edit option to edit your post after the fact to add an argument.

100% of people who eat potatoes die. See what I did there?

Kaineng was a snowball effect. The higher they went the more xfers they got, but I can understand how some people are allergic to context

Potatoes can’t be healthy if everyone dies who has ever eaten a potato!

I see what you did there.
And its a terrible analogy.

A better one would be,
A rocket requires more energy to move the initial 2inches off the ground than it requires to get from there to space.

Kaineng was bloated to begin with.
They got extras on the way.
But it was still a piggy at the start.

I’m also irish, I find you calling our beloved potatoes poisonous offensive.
They would never do anything to harm us.
<3

TheGhostBaron.1250:

Rob.7624:

SniffyCube.6107:

Rob.7624:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Rob.7624:

This isn’t like Kaineng, which was stuck there since the start. This is SF being put there after being tested.

Except Kaineng went up because of transfers… which is exactly what has happened with SF. We had a substantial amount of guilds transfer in from higher tiers before free transfers ended, the SF that you claim has been tested so well is entirely different than the one you encountered beforehand, most of those guilds actually left when we were on our decline.

I’m not saying we’re going to wipe any other tier, I just think you shouldn’t write us off that quickly because you played against us what 2-3 months ago now.

From what the above posts tell me. SF has had very few xfers.
We’ll see what happens in the future.

I’m just looking at the evidence.
And I doubt you’ve even a fraction of the numbers Kaineng have, with a score of 166k – 81 – 71.

When Kaineng was tier 3 it was still winning at 400k – 90k – 85k

Statistics bro.

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses.

You’re taking your information from the few SF that believe they are winning because of how amazing they are. For every one of those players, there are about 10 SF posting here or in the other sections of the forums saying they outnumber us for whatever reason and should move because it’s not fun for them.

I think you need to open a dictionary and look up what bias means.
Because numbers don’t choose sides.

10 people tell you you are wrong. 10 people as equally qualified as you.
The likelihood of you being wrong is high.

If you ignore that then you’re just too dim to reply too.

Go look at millennium match history.

During the initial entrance in the tier the demoralised SF probably barely showed up. While the recently freed FC and ET (who had been crushed by Kaineng for yonkies) rose up and had their fair weather stretch their legs.
Its call the novelty effect. Every server experiences it.
The next week, SF starts to wake up. Come back into the dead WvW.
And the week after that you’re back to winning and the guys in WvW who haven’t done it in months start to play again.

Logic.

If I may,

Bias: an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially: a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice

an instance of such prejudice

(1): deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates (2): systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others

Looks to me like Sniffycube used the word in the proper way.

That being said, with SFs coverage(large prime time force and a large night crew) this puts them in a position where they should have the chance to fight in T7. And they should have the chance to fight in T7 no matter what their prior results.

Yeh what personal gain do I get out of it?
I am a third party entity and I can choose my sources as I am unbias (since it doesn’t affect me whatever happens).
So if my sources are bias that is for me to decide, and looking at it statistically Sniffy is incorrect.

I think I’m going to return to my own people.
It will be funny if your Commanders work like this too.

And your definition of large is different to mine.
My definition of large is 120 players, enough to cover 2 maps with a sufficient zerg. That is only during my timezone, which is at 2am pacific time.
If you field that during the night shift? Well.
Lets just say only tier 5 can do that.

SniffyCube.6107:

I fought you guys while on DR and while visiting another server. It was fun you guys were great (even sent some players your way once), but rob believe me when I tell you there are a lot of these guys. I don’t think the majority of them are good from what I’ve seen, but I think they can learn. I’d like to see the match up tbh because I think you might beat them but it would be close.

If they don’t have 24hour coverage then they don’t stand a chance, to be put quite simply.

Our primetime zerg could be neck and neck sure. But if there is an absence during my night shift? They’ll wake up to have their keep fortified with WP and NSP waiting inside.

Never underestimate a night crew.
NSP was the only one in tier 6 to have a full crew, so I do doubt the tiers below have anything to match. And yes, we lost the vast majority of it. But even I gave DR a run for their money with only pugs.

silverfire.2547:

Rob.7624:

NSP is tier 6.
We rolled SF. We rolled them badly for weeks.

I keenly remember the taste of pavement and boots from having my head being stomped into the curb a couple weeks ago at the hands of NSP. Then again, when we were matched up against you guys, we had just lost quite a lot of players to transfers.

After that, we continued to shed WvW presence — I haven’t seen CL for months. The only incoming transfers since then that I’ve heard of were one or two smaller guilds coming in from SoR and a couple one-offs jumping ship from ET and FC.

Past that, any gains we’ve made as a server have come from CoSA’s ever-increasing WvW presence, day-to-day improvements in communication between commanders and small groups, and “original” SF players from day one beginning to work more closely together. I don’t see too many of the old repeat offender fair-weather only guilds on anymore; they’re either long gone or calling themselves PvX PvE guilds now.

Call it cautious optimism, but despite what you hear about the population disparity in T8, I’d like to believe that most of our recent gains have been in quality, not quantity.

NSP has that quality over quantity since the start, and at one point it carried us into tier 5.

But tier 5 is all about Quantity, and we lost our entire night crew (except me) after a few short weeks of being in tier 6. Which has put us at a severe disadvantage.

We’re now losing in tier 6. Not badly, but I think if you put us in the tier below. We would decimate.
And for a server coming up from the tier below? It wouldn’t be pleasant.

It would be fun to fight SF again, but for your sakes just hope that NSP doesn’t move down the same week you guys move up.
Because then it’d be Tier6 vs Tier8 server

Darek.1836:

It was a troll.
Also SF will crush T7 easily and likely beat T6 in a similar way that Devona did, then hitting T5 and losing and start bouncing between T6 and T5 or just staying in T6 after the loss.

NSP is tier 6.
We rolled SF. We rolled them badly for weeks.

But then again NSP belongs in tier 7 now.
I still think we could roll SF though, if they wanted a history lesson.

But I suppose you are amazingly well informed from being in tier 5 and tier 6 for so long hmm?
I know T5, T6 and T7 well and played against all T8 servers.
Just saying.
xfer servers don’t exist anymore.

SF may have gotten a boon and NSP taken a hit.
But the significance to start with was big enough to make a god guess now.
This isn’t like Kaineng, which was stuck there since the start. This is SF being put there after being tested.

I just look at millennium.
Is it a false entry or 4 hours ago did ET have +695 point gain?
Because if so.
You’re going to get destroyed by tier 7 if even ET can get that much.

Total faceroll.

Varconi.1804:

ALS single worst guild based on player skill in our tier?

Discuss amongst yourselves

What about the PvE guilds that go farm the grub

RoSeViLLe.9547:

Hammerhorn.1347:

10 ? Your math is way way off divide that by 2 and then you’ll be right sir …. We seem like 10 but nope just 5!!!!

Maybe he was counting my level 26 mesmer’s clones

It was just a wild guess.
If I had been there, you would have remembered it.

Bubble Bunker ftw.

RoSeViLLe.9547:

Just wanted to give a shout out to the VS guild. I enjoyed pulling unsuspecting BP and NSP players down into the VS meat grinder today with my lowbie mesmer at the EB jp. Ganking at the trolling grounds has it’s rewards…I think I got like a level and a half and a good bag full of badges. Thanks for the fun!

Killing unorganised PvE noobs in a 10vs1 while they try and peacefully go get their daily badges in the JP?

Please tell me more of how this was good play.

Toble.2968:

Rob.7624:

Kalkz.5297:

The only way to cap Lowlands is by golems rushing OR having the enemy team outmanned and raming the gates, but capping WC and building 5 trebs (pointing at NSP commanders ) Really ?

Shhhhush. Wasn’t me

Just finished having a run with small Os team. Where we killed zergs with our faces Lolol.
That was fun AR and BP

Bird is just trying to get e-famous in my PVP videos.

Little does he know that only Os colors and quaggan backpacks will be worn in my pvp videos. STRICT CODE OF CONDUCT!

Also 5 trebs because we get bored. Smitry’s fault.

Pfft. Type in Commander Bird Song to google images and guess who appears? Moi.

I’m already efamous

Kalkz.5297:

The only way to cap Lowlands is by golems rushing OR having the enemy team outmanned and raming the gates, but capping WC and building 5 trebs (pointing at NSP commanders ) Really ?

Shhhhush. Wasn’t me

Just finished having a run with small Os team. Where we killed zergs with our faces Lolol.
That was fun AR and BP

Vodka.3958:

Lol it’s funny how EU think NA is just a bunch of mindless zergers without strategy…

Reality Check: NA uses as much if not more strategy than EU does. Neither are better than the other, both are equally good in their own unique way. The difference is in the different organized guilds and their type of organized strategic play style they would use. One may counter the other but the strategy is all there. Come to Blackgate and I’ll show you what I mean

Erhm.
As you can see from my tag I am an NA player.
But I’ve done my fair time on EU servers and picked up most of their tactics.

Quite simply I’ve had the best of both worlds.

And EU would roll NA in a WvW match.
There are many different reasons, but a big one is NA has an artificial 24hour crew will EU servers pull them off naturally.
There is a strong cohesion between different countries and for instance, the Russian will horde together into one big federation, pulling other russians who wouldn’t have WvW’d into said federation and getting them to play.

That and the mix up between playstyles keeps everyone on their toes while I find NA play very obvious and repetitive.
Most of the time when I take something its because it really doesn’t make any sense to the other team, so they are on the wrong side of the map with no scouts.
Tada, appear out of nowhere. Flip it, lose it, take another one.
Eventually all the towers will be weak and you can perform a grand sweep, tumbling all the towers in one swoop.

As opposed to NA play, which is bash each one down as you come to it.

Birdflu.8120:

Gj Anet… Show those jokers (me) that jokes will not be tolerated. facepalm

Talk about feminists getting too much power when they can have jokes removed without entering the forums, or even reading the actual joke

I got the impression people found it rather funny.

But I guess there is allways the odd chance that someone, somewhere will be offended. And we all know we must isolate the world with plenty of cotton so that noone EVER will get a bit hurt :’(

Dude, Gay pride > Feminists anyday
Didn’t you get the memo.

I mean, their hair is blah, their makeup is hideous, do those shoes even match your scarf? Jeez. Did you get dressed in the dark? Oh sorry,
Yea, you just plain ugly.

But really its all about the <3

Jayne.9251:

Rob.7624:

; You want me to go lift something because its heavy? How do you think that makes me feel??

No, but I’d like you to kill that big spider in the kitchen.

Over the years and this long harsh winter I have grown an attachment to that spider.
It was a breezy summers eve when I first met Frank (I named the spider Frank).
He had crawled up my arm while I was sitting in my deckchair watching the sun set with an ice cold beer in one hand and totally owning some noobs on my laptop on the other. Cause I can do that.

Me and Frank had a chat, shared a couple of beers, did some scuba-diving together. We essentially become bro’s that summer.
But then his wife tried to digest him, and he had to flee his home in terror. So when he came to me and told me he was living in some back alley web above a dumpster, I naturally said he could stay at my place. He used to give me lifts to work and BBQ the steaks on the weekend, now thats what I call some brotherly love.

Which brings me to what you just asked me to do.
What kind of monster asks a guy to kill his best friend Q_Q
Murderer.

I suppose you killed the bacteria in the toilet too?!
And that old smelly sock that I sometimes see moving across the floor?!
You call it ‘cleaning’ and ‘tiding up’, but I see what you’re doing. You’re isolating me from my bro’s before you try and whack me too!

Sifu.6527:

I am GIG (Girl in Game). Can I post here?

That just made me think of Giggity Giggity.

Sure you can post here. This thread is all about equality and that apparently girl gamers are actually any good.
Even though statistics show that the male population is the bestest and also the worst. Meaning that we have the straight shooters and then just idiots, women actually usually make up the middle ground.

But 50% of the population is male and ofc the other is female (or WoW players) and the reason why they play the game is the exact same reason everyone does, because its good.
And my post being deleted for the kitchen stereotype is pretty ridiculous considering that this thread is all about another ridiculous stereotype.

I also find that this being a gender specific thread exceptionally sexist and I personally am totally upset right now because why don’t us males get a thread? Huh? Look, look what you did. Now I’m crying. Does this make you feel good? To banish us like lower class citizens… ;_; You want me to go lift something because its heavy? How do you think that makes me feel??

Q_Q Like a donkey..

..I’m going to go eat ice cream and cry while watching Bridget Jones by myself in the dark under a blankie.

But back onto the topic of WvW.
I’d just like to inform all of you that Anet actually determines wins on how well dressed your character is. So er, uh huh, you better be colour coordinated or you gunna fail.

I’m beautiful in matching hot pink and fluffy sword.
You best be afraid.

Well that was amusing trying out my heavy Guardian build in EB today.

-Drops sanctuary in middle of enemy zerg-

-Rolls into it-

-Zerg proceeds to rush at me-

-They bounce off, I roll out and run around healing-

Wooh.
So much more lol than a glass build.

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Yesterday was the most fun I’ve had in WvW. Holding off NSP and BP in SM for close to two hours was epic.

Not as impressive as other days, but we had less people.
Glad to have kept AR on their toes.

2nd attached is the siege on those gates LOLOL

Took back the Bl’s and then took SM in EB.
BP and AR were so mad.
That for the last few hours we’ve been fighting over it inside the Lords room.

LOL

Some screenshots.

1. Does this look familiar? Lol

2. You so mad

3. AR not happy we wiped them in BP’s SM Lords room. They want revenge.

4. AR took SM, so we rolled back in.

5. The we rearranged some AR faces c:

6. Then BP defended AR’s SM from NSP?! Forcing us to pull out. And then BP ran away.

7. Then we had some more epic battles with BP inside AR’s Lord room.

8. So we decided to let AR and BP fight it out while we waited.

9. Only to find out BP were also waiting for us to attack AR before they could rush XD

10. So we portaled and hid upstairs hoping BP would rush from below..

11. There is no eleven. It turns out BP decided to go PvD our Borderlands instead..
So we had to leave to defend it.

Goodjob BP.
We’re last with the least point gain and AR are second with the first point gain. Meaning when we stop you in our bl. You’ll let AR take your stuff and end up second.
Genius.

jkctmc.8754:

I logged out, and probably will not log back in this week. If culling wasn’t bad enough, there is a near 3 second delay on instant cast spells if they even fire.

With my computer,

X58A-UD3R motherboard
Intel Core i7 “960” 3.2
Radeon 6850 1GB Graphics Card
6GB Super Talent Ram
Kingston HyperX 120GB SSD

and the extra I pay for a much faster internet, I shouldn’t be having issues like this.

Guys on NSP are complaining about the same thing.
I’ve had no issues.

My rig:

Gigabyte 990FXA Mobo
AMD Phenom II X4 965 – 4.2 Ghz AM3 Black Edition (Overclocked)
EVGA GeForce GTX 550Ti GPU (Overclocked 2GB)
Corsair 8GB (2 × 4 GB) DDR3 Vengeance Memory – Red
OCZ Agility 3 120GB Solid State (The game and OS on)
Western Digital Raptor 7200rpm HDD 2TB

The unimportants yet important
Cosair Special Edition Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case – White
Corsair CMPSU-800GUK Gaming Series GS800 High Performance 800W Power Supply
Linksys WMP 600 N Wireless-N Dual Band Adapter (Dual-Band; Wireless-N; PCI)#
Corsair H80 Hydro water cooling (About to fit it)

Yeh, My rig is oldschool muscle with a tuned up engine.

Evilzara.6378:

Rob.7624:

Score update for all you guys at work.

2nd attachment of us owning in EB

Go NSP wooh!

How does it feel to not treb SM from Overlook every kitten minute?

Urgh. I think our trebbers have forgotten how to use a treb anywhere else. I got the ones in SM set up to hit WC, Klovan, Quintin and Durios. And they were firing COWS at the walls.

But I’m sure we’ll lose SM at some point.
And I’ll set up an airstrike with trebs.
It’ll be banter. <3

Score update for all you guys at work.

2nd attachment of us owning in EB

Go NSP wooh!
(Lol please tell me who the Borlis Commander was outside Quintin. We thought you guys wanted some NSP love too. Zara please tell me that was you)

Might as well start this now eh?

Since it is Friday here already after all and the old thread is locked.

Keep it clean, keep it happy!

osif.8673:

Rob.7624

I reference to zerging.
Please read the post I made above this one. And read the second half.
Thanks.

Then it’s even more baffling what you say about paxa. I’d recommend OS stop trashing paxa on the forums as we don’t talk about you unless provoked.

Uh,
I’m going to have to just post this again aren’t I.

“As recounted from previously”-

If you’ll read that post and different posts. I have agreed with you.
I never said small groups are not useful. I use them myself.
But small groups which don’t take towers (which they most certainly can, we took SM with less than 10 people using trebs) are entirely inefficient and are not working to their full potential.
Which is a waste.

You can ninja 50% of a map without killing a soul (NPC’s have no soul) and there still be a full enemy zerg on it.

Pug zergs on the majority case can be highly unintelligent. They won’t even realise.
PvDoor when there are many enemies on the map is just good business my friend.

“End of recount”

-We will respond in kind to any of your actions, in forums or in game, from any of your members at any point in the day.
But this is not the Os guild. This is maybe 4 people on here.
Just saying. We’ll consider your recommendation.

GG

osif.8673:

Rob.7624:

PAXA produces a very tiny amount of points.
Hence it isn’t very good at winning.
Hence it isn’t very good at WvW.

For a guild that isn’t good at WvW, they sure make it out as if they are.
Even going as far as insulting other contributing teammate WvW guilds.

You have 11 people? I have a 7 man zerg.
In a week we still gain more points than you guys do in a month.

Tone it down please.

I used to think you knew a fair bit about WvW. Not so much anymore. Zergs are required for success in WvW, so are small groups, so are solo players. You’re ignorant to even the workings of WvW and what it takes to win. While we don’t care so much about score and care more about fun, saying we aren’t good at WvW just makes you look bad.

As for toning it down, look who’s the one saying it chest thumping on how you can form a Zerg and how many points you get.
It’d be nice if you could just drop it and stop flaming paxa on the forums, as we never really said anything (other than Jscull jokingly saying we came to your rescue) before you dropped your 2 cents about us here. We never say anywhere that we are awesome or make it out that way. It’s you guys who make paxa out to be that way. The zergers bash on paxa, the small groups respect us. It’s the Zerg mentality that you’ve pointed out in the quote above that causes this. Maybe when you realize WvW isn’t only PvD, you’ll think differently about the different types of being good at WvW.

I reference to zerging.
Please read the post I made above this one. And read the second half.
Thanks.

EDIT:
If you’ll read that post and different posts. I have agreed with you.
I never said small groups are not useful.
But small groups which don’t take towers (which they most certainly can, we took SM with less than 10 people using trebs) are entirely inefficient and are not working to their full potential.
Which is a waste.

You can ninja 50% of a map without killing a soul (NPC’s have no soul) and there still be a full enemy zerg on it.

Pug zergs on the majority case can be highly unintelligent. They won’t even realise.
PvDoor when there are many enemies on the map is just good business my friend.

subcrazy.1098:

I wont even quote since we are getting lazy
@rob

No idea why u took the video personal, in no where in my post did I chest pound. It was to show we don’t do what that person or ppl claim. I didn’t call you boring at all but you took it personal I said ppl(We offered to put up a video you would enjoy). We record it cause its what we enjoy just like you post ur pics of u taking a map. Why do ppl use twitch because they enjoy doing it and ppl watch it.

Whats your issue? You play how you like, will play how we like. WvW isn’t about points sorry to break to ya. Its about having fun. Not having fun = no game to play. If points is fun for you great. My thing is having fun. I make videos cause i have fun doing them.

Its like you think small group stuff is new or something. Guess what it happens on every server not just ours. Small groups make a difference you just don’t notice it, we slow down zergs. We hit keeps just to get ppl to come to them, we know we cant take it fast enough with 5. Well guess what we just took 20 ppl to come check on this keep only 5 ppl are on and now there out of our zergs hair.

I’ll upload the video for you since u need it cause im nice like that.

Have a good day Sir.

I don’t think you understood correctly.
My post was taking in yours and PAXAs outlook in a summary at the end as it was relevant to what we had been discussing prior. I hope you understand now.

My joke about calling me boring was in reference to saying that a video that I wanted to see would be dull. Henceforth making me dull, aka, boring. Like I said. It was a joke, one of those social conventions that people do while having a conversation.

I honestly don’t see how a very one-sided video of you killing some disadvantaged players (see previous post) is very amusing for this forum. I don’t take pictures of NSP 40 man zerg wiping say for instance an AR 20 zerg and then send it to them with me ontop of a mound of bodies winking and with a caption, “NSP rules”.
For one, its very unskillful, meaning no one cares and secondly its unsportsmanlike.
You should post your videos on www.shiverpeaks.com our community website.

Well my issue like I said previously was the entire PAXA attitude towards its fellow teammates. I have been mildly ignoring it until now, the reason why I am not is because players from the servers that we are currently fighting are laughing at us in a sense as well as the irritation it is causing within NSP itself.
A couple of the conversation were directly at this matter and three more which weren’t even on this topic referenced it. And for a server that I care much for.. that cannot do.

You are not a big guild on the server. People give you a lot of publicity giving the false sense of importance. So when your guild starts talking down others (the actual WvW guilds on the server), it carries that false weight.
Do you understand?

I’m not trying to be condescending if that is how I am coming across. I’m making sure that you recognise what I’m saying.

We all have our own play styles, and as I have said in previous posts and as an Os member has recently said.
We, as Os, are not a big zerg guild.
We actually run in 5 man groups, and connect maybe 4 or 5 of those groups to take an objective that requires that amount of people, after that objective is complete they will then be redistributed. The other 5 groups will be split up completing their own attack or defence objective, this is all under the supervision of the Field Commander, who constantly distributes and directs the party leaders as well as receives information from scouts. This all works through our voice server. When working at its maximum (which can be up to 70players) it forms a tight web where every part of that map is being scrawled at by Os. If 2 groups encounter the enemy zerg? There will be 2 groups behind the enemy to box them in. The other 5 man teams are still able to perform their tasks and the reserve parties can take the task of what the 4 groups now engaged in combat were supposed to achieve, but with less people (due to player draw).

Unlike small guilds like PAXA we do not have 11 players. We have 200.
And we’ll field maybe 50 players on one map, each in hand built groups of 5. These players know each other and are skilled to compliment each other. We have refined this over the months of GW2, in class seminars held by class leaders and in regular training.

I hope I have not overstepped my bounds in this insight into Os. I do not believe I have revealed anything important.
But in reading this hopefully I have opened a few peoples eyes into what an Os guild ‘zerg’ actually is. And swept aside this rubbish of, “Oh we like to small party while you guys blah blah rush loot bags”. Because each party is independent and free thinking.
We are essentially many small teams coordinating together on a map.
You can’t stop that.

subcrazy.1098:

Rob.7624:

subcrazy.1098:

And here is the proof of PAXA killing nothing but small groups with 10+ ppl

http://youtu.be/BcrxNaBTp1Y

We have more of these if you want to see how great they are at always in 10 man + taking on only 3-5 ppl.

So..
I watched the video.

And I have to say, I sat and counted how many upleveled AR players there were in the first fight.
There were quite a few. And as all of you know, an upleveled lvl15 is truly awful. Infact any uplvl’d player is bad due to non-80 gear. So in actual fact, if you want to take the upped guys out of the equation, your 5 vs 10 was actually more like a 5 vs 6/7.
And I’d also like to point out that you were working together as a team while a few of those AR were total pug guilds that I’ve never seen before in WvW over the months we have played AR.
And even though I suspect you removed the start of the attack for this very reason. You would also have had a huge advantage when you probably surprised attacked them. And anyone who does WvW will know, when attacked from behind an enemy can have 1/3rd of your HP off before you even turn around.

Well im glad u caught that the video wasn’t the start of the fight. But guess what we have it and we took it out. And now you thinking WHY? Well let me start by saying the recording starts with the necro being updafted(yes that’s right we didnt get the jump or start the fight) and we turn then kite them to the island. It evens has dylic DIEING and the necro gets downed but gets a stomp rezz. So now its 10+ on 4 of us. (Dylic ends up running back) We slowly kite them over kill some culling kicks in fads some out. Again I do have it. We just thought it wasn’t interesting to throw in there. In the end it was long and a lil dull to have the 1st part.

Hey if you PUG then u pug not our fault, we get steam rolled by being out numbered at times and a lot of low lvl are there. The video is up to show we dont run 10 – 15+ ppl to kill 3-5.

Rob.7624:

Can you please take a video of you guys taking a tower or keep which is defended..
Or just something more impressive.

No wants to see ppl taking keeps or defending — its dull to watch ppl want to see ppl fighting other human ppl. We can make one just for you and we wont edit it if u get kicks out of banging doors or sitting in a keep siege. Any request for music in this video?

Rob.7624:

Killing 40 bads with 5 people is no great feat.

Again the video is there to show we are not running with 10 – 15+ killing 2 ppl. And I’m pretty sure 40 ppl could kill 5 no matter what lvl they are.

Rob.7624:

Nor is camp flipping.

Well watch from here http://youtu.be/BcrxNaBTp1Y?t=2m18s this camp is flipped. Why would you rec this that’s no fun to watch.

Ok,
I won’t even take the time to split the quotes.

Please, pics or it didn’t happen.

I want to watch PAXA taking a tower.
Why you call me boring Q_Q
It would be highly amusing to see PAXA take a defended tier 3 tower.
Because 5man teams are vastly superior, and you can prove zergs fail. Challenge accepted?

40bads fresh from PvE and uplvl’d would probably think that you were NPC’s and continue to focus on a buffed guild claimer rather than fight back.
You could totally face roll 40bads, especially with AoE bleeds and using culling.

My point of the comment was, why record any of it. But even more to the point. Why keep showing everyone it.
I post a picture here and there of when NSP takes the entire map.. or a mass artillery strike against SM. You know, something that nearly everyone in both servers are apart of on that map and encompasses about 30 – 50 people.
You know, relevant to them.
But these videos are nearly just attention grabbing, as in look at me I’m amazing.
And then there are the comments directed back at your own teammates nearly saying, look at me, we’re so much better than you.

Please correct me if I’m wrong. But this is quite a common opinion, and for people who pull the long hours with next to no resources. Highly insulting.
The aim of WvW is to win. This requires making points.
PAXA produces a very tiny amount of points.
Hence it isn’t very good at winning.
Hence it isn’t very good at WvW.

For a guild that isn’t good at WvW, they sure make it out as if they are.
Even going as far as insulting other contributing teammate WvW guilds.

You have 11 people? I have a 7 man zerg.
In a week we still gain more points than you guys do in a month.

Tone it down please.

subcrazy.1098:

And here is the proof of PAXA killing nothing but small groups with 10+ ppl

http://youtu.be/BcrxNaBTp1Y

We have more of these if you want to see how great they are at always in 10 man + taking on only 3-5 ppl.

So..
I watched the video.

And I have to say, I sat and counted how many upleveled AR players there were in the first fight.
There were quite a few. And as all of you know, an upleveled lvl15 is truly awful. Infact any uplvl’d player is bad due to non-80 gear. So in actual fact, if you want to take the upped guys out of the equation, your 5 vs 10 was actually more like a 5 vs 6/7.
And I’d also like to point out that you were working together as a team while a few of those AR were total pug guilds that I’ve never seen before in WvW over the months we have played AR.
And even though I suspect you removed the start of the attack for this very reason. You would also have had a huge advantage when you probably surprised attacked them considering that some half of the AR are down within 8seconds of the video. And anyone who does WvW will know, when attacked from behind an enemy can have 1/3rd of your HP off before you even turn around.

You could say that it was even when 5 BP showed up at the rear of the basically dead AR. But BP attack the AR.. They die.
And if you notice you now out number them 7 vs 5.
Outnumbered, thats a word that you like to use. Also wait a minute. Isn’t a zerg something that simply outnumbers the enemy?
I’m not suggesting you are a zerg, I’m just saying. Its cool that you gloat over a fight that was tipped in your favor.

I could go on to the rest of the video, pointing out advantages like the buffed guild claimer etc (which we all know can 2 shot a lvl80) and that you use culling so the enemy cannot hit you. But I’m not going to bother, I’ve seen enough.

This is not a poke at PAXA even though small minds may think it is. I’m just pointing out pretty common knowledge and a breakdown of what actually happened and why.

Killing 40 bads with 5 people is no great feat.
Nor is camp flipping.
You can solo those you know.

Can you please take a video of you guys taking a tower or keep which is defended..
Or just something more impressive.

I feel, after watching that video. That it might be required.

Anvil Pants.3426:

osif.8673:

Yes, because the people that aren’t in our guild know better than we do where we are and how many people we are running with. Our bad, we are very misinformed about our own guild!

Seems so.

And to answer PAXA’s request: No, Anvil Rock will not be taking TCMM back. They’re all yours, now.

Mezri.5890:

It’s not even on topic to fight each other. Perhaps we should all jump in a voice chat program and all have a nice yell at each other and then start working together against the two other servers we should have been focusing all along?

Idk, the argument wouldn’t last long.
Tele is pretty adorable.

But a public vent would be nice, I heard someone had a 500slot mumble on the go.
I can imagine some racist jokes coming in though>_>

Top er da mornin to yer

osif.8673:

Rob.7624:

Ok.
So calling us carebear, a guild that puts practically all its resources and focus into WvW, is not disrespectful?
By gosh my good sir! Thou art a hypocrite.

Disrespect earns disrespect. It’s not being hypocritical. But look at my edit, you responded before you saw that I believe

And please look at mine.

osif.8673:

Members of Os decided to trash talk PAXA because we had some fun crashing fight clubs. Maybe if they were even a little bit respectful we would consider helping them out a bit when needed. All they’ve shown us though is 1) a carebear mentality and 2) disrespect to their own server. They like to single themselves and their “alliances” out as the only good guilds on the server, so we’ll leave them to their own business in game. Unless it’s a fight club, of course. We love killing those “afk” players.

Ok.
So calling us carebear, a guild that puts practically all its resources and focus into WvW, is not disrespectful?
By gosh my good sir! Thou art a hypocrite.

I mean, fight club is hilariously good fun. You should really try it sometime.
But hating on a 200member guild because of a few people that you don’t like is ridiculous.
Os is a main body presence. PAXA is a small body presence. Due to those factors we lean towards zerg and as of such have adapted ourselves to play to that. We chose it because we see at as efficient, and hence forth the best method in the majority of circumstances.
I mean, I’d pick being in a zerg over a camp flip team anyday, and sometimes I don’t always agree with PAXA standing apart. But dude, thats my opinion. Deal with it.
Lets have no Q_Q interserver rubbish.

Like I said before.
Same team.

EDIT:
Hmm.
Tele tried to organise fight club for everyone to have fun. I can imagine she would have been upset when you ruined it. Respect that please. That I believe was the initial disrespect, it is on PAXA’s hands.
Not ours.

I’m nearly certain you were invited to it, and that that is how you knew exactly where it was. It was quite a public event.
But if you guys need to kill people who weren’t expecting to be attacked, well then.. er. Yeh.

Mezri.5890:

It’s pretty disappointing to see that most of the arguing on this page is between two guilds on my world. Good or bad, we’re fighting together.

Exactly.
Same colour, same team.
I recognise the use of small gank squads and flip team as well as a main zerg. Combining them together and Commanding them to work in sync is what gets the best results.
But those results are server points.
Everyone should be aiming to get the points. As opposed to badges.

tiramisu.8706:

Not sure how it came to be but we’re both really popular this week, PAXA.

I swear its the gank kills.
People don’t care about the point gainers ;_;
Just the people who solo rolled them,
Amass a guild of just that and the guild gains recognition from individuals on a mass scale. It adds up.

Jscull.2514:

@toble and nausicca

OS can always count on our 5 man being useless to OS. After all we don’t want to be used anyways. We will always be up for helping guilds and individuals we respect. But that is earned by character and skill, not the size of a “large alliance” on our server.

What large alliance is it that you speak of?

Hes been bugged on NSP since headstart access.
I had to AoE him through a wall.

It took 45 minutes.

Hah.
Save your ultrasonic lolsauce for total WvW reset on Friday.
Atm we have a pretty amazing line-up.
And we’d like to keep them

Omne.4603:

dunnberry.2964:

Teach the pugs to defend and SM doesn’t win us the game and were good to go

It’s common knowledge that Castles are autowin. Please stop trolling this thread, were wise to you now.

imalog.7689:

bradderzh.2378:

Score update?? (and please tell me NSP has taken back their keeps…)

we had to flip them for them. BP 100k AR 100k NSP 73k.

Relax bird, we saw you “show up” on NSP bay and get pushed right out by those nasty up scaled BP and their brilliant arrow cart behind the gate technique.

That wasnt me ^__^
I mean, I was there, but not Commanding. Out of my hours.
I’m sure you enjoyed my trebbing though