Guild Wars 2

I’d like to see the boon “protection” reduce condition damage myself, just slightly because classes will get insanely OP if anet doesn’t set it right. Vampiric rituals with my necro really helps with roaming so I can run a little power instead of boring condi meta.

The biggest change is a reduction in 80% of the wvw population. Good update. I joke

BeepBoopBop.5403:

RodOfDeath.5247:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

You people know that stealth makes you invisible, not invincible right? Can’t believe 4 years into the game and more reveals and stealth trap access than ever, stealth still OP. L2plaaaaaaayyy.

To OP, power necro is just no good vs nearly everything else right now. Change build, reroll whatever but the game won’t change for you. AoE AoE AoE. Count to 3, use Chilled To The Bone. Ez. Play a stealth class and you will learn how they move and use skills. Only then will you be able to counterplay them by predicting them.

I do pretty decent with my power necro actually, just have to run some toughness for the most part and get some protection up. But Beepboop guy is right, I learned how to counter classes by playing the class and learning what did what. It’s a pain leveling one, but it will help you learn how they move and timing on skills.

Don’t even have to level to 80, just hot join or PvP queue is enough. I’d share my 800 tomes tho, too much bank space.

That’s a good point actually. I just like the wvw feel though. Those tomes, wish I could transfer them to my second account

Bringing back the DBL? I think anet will witness the result first hand. Go for it, dangerous waters

BeepBoopBop.5403:

You people know that stealth makes you invisible, not invincible right? Can’t believe 4 years into the game and more reveals and stealth trap access than ever, stealth still OP. L2plaaaaaaayyy.

To OP, power necro is just no good vs nearly everything else right now. Change build, reroll whatever but the game won’t change for you. AoE AoE AoE. Count to 3, use Chilled To The Bone. Ez. Play a stealth class and you will learn how they move and use skills. Only then will you be able to counterplay them by predicting them.

I do pretty decent with my power necro actually, just have to run some toughness for the most part and get some protection up. But Beepboop guy is right, I learned how to counter classes by playing the class and learning what did what. It’s a pain leveling one, but it will help you learn how they move and timing on skills.

kash.9213:

RodOfDeath.5247:

This right here is why roaming is dead. It’s mainly the players fault for running builds that they base on “escaping” like its an art or some intelligent strategy. Why roam if you are just going to run and never deal with a challenge? Moment they start losing they run like it’s real life lol

Seems to me the roamers today are just fleeing and have no interest in fighting, hence nobody roams like they use to. Players like this killed the aspect of the game, it’s their own fault for the state of the game. Not anets.

What do you mean “like they used to”? That sounds like roaming since launch.

About the thread in general, as a thief I also have to play a build I don’t entirely like to survive stealth openers, but I only have to hit a threshold in the build to where I can survive or avoid the opener to hit back and so it’s otherwise a fun build if not totally kitten inducing. This is coming from a thief who rarely uses stealth and doesn’t have a lot going for him passively.

Diversity, activity, and technical skill. It’s the same builds, classes, and strategy. I guess I’ve transferred here and there over the years in every tier, seen a lot of cool builds and classes. That just doesn’t happen presently like it use to. Roaming use to be an unknown, now it’s “yep, another x thief or mesmer build”. Just my experience, you don’t have to like it or agree.

Mushin.3928:

The sorry state of roaming is: gank if you can, and run away/stealth if you start to lose.

I don’t roam much (I’m a Rev) but yesterday I was doing dailies solo and a necro ambushed me. We fought for a while and I barely won. The refreshing thing about the fight was that there was no +1 and neither one of us ran away, and neither of us was running a cheese condi build. All too rare these days. It seems like Rev, Necro,and DH are the only classes that really fight when roaming because they can’t stealth or run well.

My favorite are the warrior gank and flee types. Look its brave sir robin!

This right here is why roaming is dead. It’s mainly the players fault for running builds that they base on “escaping” like its an art or some intelligent strategy. Why roam if you are just going to run and never deal with a challenge? Moment they start losing they run like it’s real life lol

Seems to me the roamers today are just fleeing and have no interest in fighting, hence nobody roams like they use to. Players like this killed the aspect of the game, it’s their own fault for the state of the game. Not anets.

More wvw attention, less pve. EOTM offers the pve version of wvw if that is what you are looking for.

LOL at the subject line x2

I feel ya OP. The druids are the most annoying ones and cookie cutter stealth build.

I don’t mind thieves too much because they are running a bit light on the gear and can be smoked quickly but the evades are pretty nuts now.

Mesmers are just dumb, condi food + wrench with stealth makes me go “great……”.

I run necro as well, non reaper, tainted shackles and life transfer is really nice to deal with stealth jerks.

Queen of FA.7398:

OOO I got an idea, 5 seconds of being invulnerable if use use the e-wp so you have a chance to actually load in and fight. =)

An excellent idea my queen! Long live FA! Except when I’m playing my SBI account, DIE!

I rather liked fighting Mag/Dr. This JQ and SOS are massive blobbers. They seem bored to be honest.

X T D.6458:

RodOfDeath.5247:

X T D.6458:

RodOfDeath.5247:

What do you guys think of the commander being the one choosing the random location?

Blue tag only I guess. When a player hits the switch the map can vote and chose what tag can select the location. Just throwing it out there to avoid trolling of it.

Emergency Waypoint…let that sink in for a minute

With all due respect, no offense, you are on BG with good numbers. Us little guys need to use a bit more strategy to handle these massive zergs

Lol you didn’t get the post, partly my fault was trying to mainly highlight Emergency but it didnt come out right…The point of the ewp is to be used as an emergency defensive move, what you proposed (with commanders choosing location and map voting etc) would use up way to much time and cant possibly work properly. It would actually hurt smaller groups even more.

Despite what people want to believe BG does not have zergs running all day on all maps, we do get outnumbered a lot even when we were linked.

Although tactivator trolling is a real issue that does affect all servers, and Ive posted several times that this stuff needs to be changed, the current system of making it only useable by guild members is not a reliable method.

You’re on BG.

Mag is that teenage girl on their cellphone IMO.

X T D.6458:

RodOfDeath.5247:

What do you guys think of the commander being the one choosing the random location?

Blue tag only I guess. When a player hits the switch the map can vote and chose what tag can select the location. Just throwing it out there to avoid trolling of it.

Emergency Waypoint…let that sink in for a minute

With all due respect, no offense, you are on BG with good numbers. Us little guys need to use a bit more strategy to handle these massive zergs

What do you guys think of the commander being the one choosing the random location?

Blue tag only I guess. When a player hits the switch the map can vote and chose what tag can select the location. Just throwing it out there to avoid trolling of it.

35 seconds in is what I’ve experienced. Even when I’m not near the fight just roaming.

Today we were fighting 500000 JQ on our home bl in bay and used the emergency WP. Of course very good commanders will predict and just start aoe bombing this area like crazy melting all 15 of us.

Wouldn’t it be cool if the emergency WP was a random area in the tower, hills, garri, or bay for example? I think it would help the little guys out at least and keep the enemy zergs guessing.

I think zerging would get worse tbh. i like the idea but numbers would be AUTO win mode worse than they are now.

Teon.5168:

Yup, my wife had bad lag in wvw last night, and the night before. I had a little bit, but not horrible.

Pretty typical for a reset. Seems to usually clear up around Monday or Tuesday.

Hoping that’s the case but I’m not missing anything great, I’m sure lol

I’m 50/50 on it. I like that it’s active but at the same time it’s just blobs and massive guilds all over. The lag is the most annoying issue for me right now.

For me I just like to roam, I’ll ride the occasional havoc crew just to get across the map, but even when I’m not near the big pug fights I’m still lagging. Just started up this Friday at reset and hasn’t stopped since.

I kinda gave up on wvw for now.

Balthazzarr.1349:

This is a super rare moment for me as well.. First time is such a long time I encountered lag in this game at all that I thought my machine had a problem for a minute. Now I see it was just server issues… considering they died at least twice during reset…

Same here, haven’t really had lag in a long…long time. Something is wrong as people 20 minutes into reset were complaining every single map on my two different accounts.

It was unplayable for me and I just logged off. Serious lag issues anet.

Dude….don’t worry about it. It’s lame but just have fun.

Yep, Was on FA account horrible lag.

Went to my SBI account, worse lol

Anyone else getting pretty bad lag in wvw tonight? Doesn’t matter which bl, all are pretty laggy. Rubberbanding for 10 seconds at times.

YB is annoying yes, but it’s what makes wvw great.

There’s little server identity or style of play left in this game.

I think I remember the time someone from SBI built catas all the way from garri to north camp. Think we should turn this into a server tradition, old pic below for 2015 lol

Logged into my SBI account to witness the greatness.

Alls we need is Russel Crow to say “on my signal unleash hell”

BOA smid.1783:

We know Mag lost KEK. There was a rumor going around that VR was moving with them, but as I was involved in a scrim against them last night on SBI BL, I know that to be false. I also have heard of many offers being made to KILL, but T1 loves to throw money around as we all know, doesn’t mean they are accepted. Chris is probably working off the rumor that KEK/VR left Mag which I believe was posted on the cancer forums, of which we know only to be half true.

Edit: People also had been wondering where CCCP and TIE were as neither had been seen running the same numbers they used too, but I think we’ve started to see both guilds in larger numbers of late.

From my understanding in talking with gvg oriented ole friends, KeK is a major factor in where the gvg guilds end up. KeK is on JQ right now I think? T2. I don’t pay attention like I use to but I’m thinking T2 (DB, JQ, and FA) are the new cool kids in town soon. I do know a guild on SoS is moving soon, who is doing very well in the gvg, up to T2. Other than that I guess we’ll see after the server linking reset.

Choppy.4183:

If you can bring yourself to run condi, you’ll do much better against that type of rev. Their condi mitigation is pretty terribad from what I’ve seen

I use to run condi but thought it was sorta unfair, so I got a bit brave and ran some power now. But that does seem to be the key, condi them to death as I switched up my build for a bit and melted one.

My advice to you is drink their tears. Let them know you are better than them and take their kickball. Make them cry more and rip their heart out

Xenesis.6389:

RodOfDeath.5247:

However, it’d be nice if we went back to the days where the pugs/roamers/players had respect and love for those guilds because you knew you could depend on them to help the server as a whole.

I just don’t know what happened along the way where the game got toxic and guilds became elitists. That breaks communities and makes the game not fun for everyone.

Because there’s a few that are “bad apples” for the community and that attitude seemed to spread over time, dunno guess the newer gvgers coming up thought it was cool to be a jerk. To gain respect you need to need give it, and some of them are filled with players who don’t care to.

I’ve seen a few that have gone from helping capture difficult structures, helping defend cause it always led to fights, to just zerg busting, then to taking it more seriously into gvging, and then turning into jerks and telling people to get off the bls, teq is up, making troll siege, chat spamming, telling scouts to shut up, etc. That toxicity spread to both sides of the fence.

I unfortunately was in many guilds like that, false callouts and getting people on the bl they wanted. It completely turned me off to zerg busting, gvg, and organized guilds. Hence why i just roam alone now.

I’ve said it before and say it again, servers need pugs. No matter how bad they are, you need them. Pugs are the heart and soul of wvw IMO.

I don’t mind the gvg crowd, it’s cool that people still have hope and can get some fun outta wvw in a sense.

However, it’d be nice if we went back to the days where the pugs/roamers/players had respect and love for those guilds because you knew you could depend on them to help the server as a whole. I just don’t know what happened along the way where the game got toxic and guilds became elisits. That breaks communities and makes the game not fun for everyone.

I guess I’m converting to the “players” fault crowd now and seeing wvw in a different light.

Opps I’m sorry. Roaming 1v1 or 1vx.

What engagements do you guys find to be the most imbalanced using pre-hot builds/gear?

I dusted off my second account necro and can handle most classes, but there’s one who I just have zero counter for on my necro, Rev. I don’t run condi but it’s like I’m not even causing damage and when I strip their boons they have 5 more two seconds later and seem invulnerable forever. Overall, I think some are just good and I have to get use to them because I’m lacking reaper mode and stuck with death shroud. I mean the revs are literally standing in my wells while I’m in their face with daggers and they just shake it off and regen like crazy.

I logged onto my second account today on SBI. Though it was day time, SoS seemed to have some dedicated players and a decent sized group of 10+. Though it was apparently in defending and their siege placement that they were dealing with new players. But they did have some numbers at least.

What worries me more is my old buds from all across the servers have mentioned gvg revival is coming back after Friday and guilds are talking. Not sure how it is going to turn out with a limited stock of wvw recruitment these days. SoS may benefit from it, though FA has a certain guild turning away good ones from my understanding.

I think this is where wvw falls short is that guilds don’t involve the entire server or have server meetings anymore. Those days are over and I think if servers got back to that sense of community things would get better. Maybe it really is the players faults. Who knows, it’s over now.

Anet is just going to shuffle servers again tomorrow, same ole thing.

They’ve had plenty of feedback and 4 years of it, I don’t believe they have anything ground breaking coming and the beta appears to be a bait tactic to hold what little they have left in wvwers. Shuffling servers doesn’t keep anything fresh, it’s the content and imbalance that is poor.

If anything wvw is going backwards. They’re using old maps, talking about completely deleting the new bl with polls, competition has died with no tournaments, combining servers because the games population is dying, etc.

Why? So you can’t stun a necro 500 times and spam?

Hesacon.8735:

I’ve survived the 5 minutes as a necro several times. It turns out it’s significantly less useful to be inside two walls as a necro than a mesmer.

Yeah was thinking of just sticking to my necro and being a ninja jerk.

Jayne.9251:

Eh it divides the good mesmsers from the great ones. I am firmly in the former category, and working towards the latter.

If you can avoid being killed in 5 minutes (the show buff expires after 5 mins), you go back to being regular inviso-mesmer, after that the enemy gets apathetic and gives up. I’ve done it a couple of times, but not consistently — so it gives me something to work towards.

I fall more into the category of really bad mesmer, which is why I never play it

Is this thread for real? lol

I main necro, cause you know I’m a man with testosterone, and decided to play a bit of Mesmer tonight just for the hell of it.

Why do you get marked if a 50+ man zerg takes your hills and you’re just trying to help your itty bitty little 20 man zerg and hide?

I was marked for close to 5 minutes and tried stealth but that didn’t work. I may have missed it long ago but is this a new thing?

Kinda benefits the larger server and screws the little guys and roamers if you ask me. Just stupid…..

I……I agree with you PVER.

He is the chosen one!

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Sarrs.4831:

Usually if you give a /bow that gets the message across.

Not always…

Sadly, I’ve had more than a few people still send hate mail after I bow or salute.

I remember this one guy got kittened that I had stomped him when it wasn’t a duel in the first place. He said I shouldn’t have bowed and that it was lame because I didn’t let him live. And yet he jumped me while I was trying to take a supply camp. I only bowed because we fought for a good 3 – 5 minutes and it was a fun fight/I felt accomplished that I had won with the odds against me.

I’ve had that happen as well a few times, trying to show a little love to a roamer or 1v2. Shocker, it was Mag server lol

XTR.9604:

I just hope BP is relinked in T3 personally. I like FA a lot, but the fights in T2 are boring compared to T3.

I’ve enjoyed the BP add as well, nice players and willing to fight. But you are right, T2 is boring with a ppt guild buying DB and broken wagon JQ.

Come to FA! We have magic find boost 24/7!

XTR.9604:

All 4 tiers are the same way right now. They’re relinking the servers on Friday which will hopefully rebalance things.

Think I’ll buy a new PS4 game Friday and let you guys rage on the wvw forums for me

What will happen is a mass influx of AP hunters, loot hungry pve crowd, server stacking, and the typical list goes on.

If anet has a wildcard this is the time to pull it, cause this beta has shown little growth result.

kandle.2367:

I am crossing my fingers that ANET has been able to extract info from the present BETA to actually improve server situations. I have posted b4 that I prefer T4 to higher tiers. But this has really become too redundant. Still believe upper servers shouldn’t be linked, but that is my opinion. I’m certain many will disagree. Can’t expect ANET to fix something overnight that players have created by incessant stacking for years.
Don’t even know why I am posting except out of frustration.

How long is this beta and what are they hoping to accomplish from the data? The only result I’m seeing is less players each week and blow out matches with pointless polls. Doesn’t seem very wise to let this continue if that is their route.