Kids today are mad because they don’t have “easy mode” in the options. Don’t mind them, they no legend
I’d recommend engi old school condi build or the new warrior builds. Like you, I’m always outnumbered so I run more toughness/hp based gear to hold out as long as possible in a 1vx fight because I like to see how many I can take out. You’ll find roamers today are not what they use to be. Most engagements typically end in them running. Warrior has pretty awesome stun breaks and the berserk trait line is fun.
But if they let you choose the map, the DBL will be deserted… the minority likes them.
Exactly, curious what anet will do. That DBL will deter even more wvw players. I’m guessing they’ll see a significant % drop in player time in wvw if they go back. Not a smart move.
They probably came up with a crazy idea that players would be prone to buy more character slots knowing anet.
To be honest…I think players are burning themselves out during this World Linking Beta…imho.
OOOOhhh shots fired
I’d like to know what the number of players playing WvW on Weaker Servers are trending to be…
Stronger Servers need to lead by example to recruit the Weaker Server’s population, but without a guarantee they’ll move to them…so they have to constantly push for epic scaled fights to impress the Weaker servers.
Double whammy…
1) Weaker Server population want server identity…not having it…stop playing…or prefer a different pace of battle. Not Zerg based.
2) Stronger Servers have to up their game to do epic scaled fights while supporting Weaker Servers to win…Commanders must constantly run Zerg battles to hold strong wins.
There’s a more simple & elegant solution to this mess…imho
Player Driven…yet…Anet Controlled.
RKO outta nowhere!
To be honest…I think players are burning themselves out during this World Linking Beta…imho.
OOOOhhh shots fired
So….anyone remember that HoD blob?
Why would a later time for reset help the west coast? This will give everyone another hour to enjoy prime time on reset.
Some people on the west coast work until 5 or 6. When that happens, we probably have at least 30 minutes to get home, meaning we’re home by 5:30 or 6:30, being generous. Can’t enjoy that extra hour of reset if we’re not able to be here for it.2
Well you guys have the whole night to enjoy it. Where as people on the east coast dont. Especially with queues and everything.
Gotta agree, I’m a west coaster and I’d rather have my fellow east coasters have the same gaming experience I get reset night. Kinda not fair to them that we get to enjoy several hours and the East gets shafted.
Top Gun baby
“That’s him – Iceman. It’s the way he flies, ice cold, no mistakes. He wears you down, you get bored, frustrated, do something stupid and he’s got ya.”
When I first read this I thought wth is this guy talking about till I needed to make some quick roaming food and like 15 people were crafting.
I like the idea for eotm stations because I believe you get a bonus to crafting based on your wvw level? Artisan: 2-3% increased chance of crafting critical success.
I really wish people would stop whining. We wanted the old bl’s back and we got them. We wanted stability changes and we got them. We wanted something to be done about the lack of players in wvw and we got it. We’re going to get a change to how scoring is done because we want it.
People whine about leaked patch notes like it’s some kind of insider trading that needs the SEC to investigate. No, it’s not. Everyone saw the leaked notes. Everyone had the same chance to take advantage of that information. If your server didn’t that’s your problem, not Anet’s and most certainly not the players on other servers.
I’m really not sure what people expect at this point?
I agree. This is beta people. A.Net is using us to figure out what to do by looking at reams of data.
Round 3.5 years late though……
The condition immobilize can honestly just be removed from the game.
Honestly, I think your time has passed anet. I believe some horrible decisions were made and bad project management has been your downfall. The end is near, you can already see it.
I just don’t know about you kids anymore……I grew up in the 80s where our heroes were Rambo and Ice Man. What in the mother of hell is that thing in the picture?
You run completely past an opponent showing no interest into a tower because you are worried about the siege decay timer.
Don’t stop believing.
I typically roam or small group it up in wvw. What is with 90% of engagements in wvw ending up in opponents running for their life as soon as they get low on HP? Even numbers, outnumbered, etc. It’s ok to die…..
Is it a generation thing? Do us older players that grew up playing Ninja Gaiden or landing the plane in Top Gun accept that games can sometimes be hard and you lose and younger gamers need that instant gratification easy mode? I base that purely on having interns at my work play these stupid games on their phone and saying “oh i need to buy coins to make the game go faster so I can win faster” WHAT!?!?!
I guess it’s sorta ruining the roaming experience for me personally. I get a good fight and as soon as they are low “see ya!” or I get rage whisper “condi expletive” or “zerker expletive”. Appears no matter what gear or build you run you are a “blank expletive”. I guess I like fighting till the end and seeing just how far you can make it outnumbered or experiencing what I did wrong in a fight.
I’m in my 30s…please help this broken hip old man understand gaming today
You’re old? You’re only in your 30s??? Man, I really feel like an old fart, now….I am 57 and still playing these stupid games.
And yea, it is fine to die…….certainly a lot different than dying in something like Everquest and having to run all the way back out to your death site to recover your gear and points……blech….hated those older mmorpgs with the horrid death penalties.
I hurt my back the other day and it made me feel 85? Sorry sir, didn’t mean to offend
I guess I’d like to see more fighting than running away, just seems strange.
I typically roam or small group it up in wvw. What is with 90% of engagements in wvw ending up in opponents running for their life as soon as they get low on HP? Even numbers, outnumbered, etc. It’s ok to die…..
Is it a generation thing? Do us older players that grew up playing Ninja Gaiden or landing the plane in Top Gun accept that games can sometimes be hard and you lose and younger gamers need that instant gratification easy mode? I base that purely on having interns at my work play these stupid games on their phone and saying “oh i need to buy coins to make the game go faster so I can win faster” WHAT!?!?!
I guess it’s sorta ruining the roaming experience for me personally. I get a good fight and as soon as they are low “see ya!” or I get rage whisper “condi expletive” or “zerker expletive”. Appears no matter what gear or build you run you are a “blank expletive”. I guess I like fighting till the end and seeing just how far you can make it outnumbered or experiencing what I did wrong in a fight.
I’m in my 30s…please help this broken hip old man understand gaming today
I think one of the points you made can go both ways. People are very terrified to command and being we most likely have more men than women gamers in wvw, the statistics get even worse for females. Don’ t know the exact number but let’s be honest, I’d be willing to bet the gap between male and female player base is pretty significant.
One of the best commanders I ever followed was from BG. Don’t remember the girls toon name but she wasn’t super knowledgeable. However, what I noticed about her she was SIMPLE. She had a certain comfort style and just kept it very simplistic that the group seemed to work amazingly well. I think she said at one point “ummm DROP THE FIRE HERE, omg we’re getting our a* kicked let’s run!” and made us laugh and have a good time. I’d rather have a commander who is just simple, fun, and easy going than most of the tryhards who yell at people in map chat or teamspeak. It’s a game, remember that.
Wow…seems like large-scale fights these days don’t last that long…usually over in under a minute. What changed? (I’ve only been around since just before HoT)
It’s the “new” trait system that completely destroyed the game balance by removing diversity and making it possible to stack more multipliers. Also terrible design on elite professions.
From a roamers standpoint, completely agree with you. Lack of diversity and same boring builds. The old trait system allowed you to get so much more out of your build. “Look at me I’m a reaper or Look at me condi mes!” Just same ole same ole.
Request to move to PVE forums please.
Quality of Life improvements did not win the vote, so we have no immediate plans to work on something like this. Also, while it might not seem like it, this problem is non-trivial to solve cleanly.
TYLER i got your theme song below, the people at the office should start calling you “Tyler Breeze”. Yes, I am a WWE fan!!!
I agree that they need to raise the threshold when server becomes full….
They additionally Anet should limit transfers.. say you can transfer only 2 times year per account or something like that to prevent people hopping servers all the time…
I like the idea of limited transfers.
I appreciate the response too. It’s all us wvwers ever wanted, just to hear some acknowledgement.
Even moving the box to the top of the screen or something would be awesome if the massive message has to stay.
keeping this thread alive, it’s still annoying.
I have to admit, my staff zerker ele wrecks. I do find it kinda unfair I can blow a defender’s siege to pieces with the click of one skill.
Usually the beast of the group, first guy in who is a solid tank and can take some punishment and manages their skills well. If the fight is long I always thought it’s a free for all and anyone in my party should target the opponent with the lowest health so we could focus fire them since things can get chaotic at times.
Not enough “thanks” go out to the ANet guys I think. I gave a lot of negative feedback when HoT came out and am happy to see they’re turning things around.
That said, in NA, the server tiers have been shaken up greatly and I’m loving seeing different servers to fight more often. I’m on Blackgate and we’ve been fighting Jade Quarry and Yaks bend for god knows how long, now we’re getting Dragonbrand and TC in the mix too. It has been a lot of fun seeing some different servers without having to transfer around.
Very interesting that Yaks Bend and Jade Quarry have dropped to Tier 2 after being in tier 1 for so long as well.
JQ yes, but Yaks hasn’t been in T1 that long compared to the other traditional T1 servers. Six months at the most maybe ?
But we (Yaks Bend) were winning almost every single week. I actually stopped playing WvW because some weeks we would be 80k points ahead of BG.
As was stated earlier, YB lost a few guilds to TC that inevitably led to a drop to Tier 2. Currently we are beating JQ and FA, but it’s a lot more evenly matched than the blowouts that were happening vs BG after the guilds transferred. I could head to EB in primetime and we were outnumbered because we were losing so bad that no one bothered to play. I think the new matchups have been working much better so far and I’ve had some really fun smaller scale battles with FA and JQ. I, for one, hope these tier shakeups continue.
Same here, I’m enjoying the smaller scale fights with JQ and YB this week. Couldn’t stand to be in T1 right now, looks blobby and boring.
Magira.6390, get a team a 2 or 3 players, u cant be expecting to do it all alone.
Yes, it looks like this as the end of the solo roaming would come. The World Linking is the kiss of death.
Solo roaming died like 2 years ago where have you been
I played 10 Toons with solo roaming to Elite. Everything since HOT.
Agreed. Solo roaming is alive and well. I’ve played from kitten, experienced old man wins
At least you get some frikking fights now as roamer on alpine, that is about the only reason what i like about this alpine map being brought back.
What he said, I like that I can log on for 2 hours and get more roaming fights than I’d get in a week in that stupid horribly designed desert bl. Don’t ever bring it back anet……
the reset time is later now because everyone threw such huge hissy fits about ANET (who are on west coast time) doing hot fixes right after reset before the weekend which they say will likely continue to happen. They also felt it would be too much of hardship for them to guarantee they could always get their hot fixes finished before their close of business on Friday nite so just a bit earlier than before of a reset wasn’t going to work either. So that is the trade off. Later reset so it won’t get interrupted.
The percentage of updates performed on a Friday, that interrupted reset is in the single digits. That reasoning is utterly flawed based on Anet’s history.
For the conversation of prioritizing reset around the west coast, here’s some simple numbers for you.
Distribution of US Population by Time Zone:
Eastern 47%
Central 32.9%
Mountain 5.4%
Pacific 14.1%A smart choice would be to not prioritize around 14.1%.
If that data is accurate, it’s pretty obvious what should happen.
No Preference: 5.87%
Ugh…..Those people, we all know them. “Like…I totally can’t decide if I want cafe frappaccino or a black coffee”.
Have to agree, way too late and I’m on the west coast. People do work on Saturday.
SEA isn’t your problem, EU is. FA has EU, unfortunately for Mag.
Welcome to Coverage Wars 2.
Mag was ticking over 400 during early EU into early NA yesterday. Roughly the same occurred on Wednesday. Why? For the same reason OP is whining about. Mag had people getting “gains” while FA didn’t bother. Really surprising to see a post whining about PPT from Mag here. Scoring changes hopefully will help.
Careful Chaba, you’re using logic there. However, you did gain me on FA
I had to watch 10 mins of your latest stream just to see. As suspected I found out your idea of “ton of fun” is a few 3v1 ganks and running halfway across the map at the mere sighting of any thing else.
Watching your own VOD all I saw was dead map save for 1 blob and a few soloers.
Also currently on MAG getting ready to go into prime EBG is queued and bls’ are boring ours is full green.
Cause Mag doesn’t do that LOL
This topic isn’t about your sore kitten.
I don’t care what mag does or anyone else.
For me that type of play is not enjoyable..
It’s all about me and tricking you mag roamers then getting salt whispers cause my low skill engi skills 1vx you guys
Need some players from China
Maybe you hardcore Magswag players should have treated your DR player base addition better. Sounds like whining and not utilizing players to me.
I had to watch 10 mins of your latest stream just to see. As suspected I found out your idea of “ton of fun” is a few 3v1 ganks and running halfway across the map at the mere sighting of any thing else.
Watching your own VOD all I saw was dead map save for 1 blob and a few soloers.
Also currently on MAG getting ready to go into prime EBG is queued and bls’ are boring ours is full green.
Cause Mag doesn’t do that LOL
When nostalgia wears off and people realize they are now WVWing 2014 style, they will remember why people were leaving in the first place. DBL itself didn’t cause people to leave and ABL itself didn’t cause a resurgence – there were other things going on in WVW as well….
Think this guy hit it right on. Nostalgia. I thought the old BLS would really help but it’s still a meh state till they address other issues. My thought is anet waiting entirely way too long to address wvw and the population/mode suffered the ultimate penalty, a slow painful death. I am getting more roaming fights than ever luckily with the old BLS, but soon as new BLS come back into rotation it’s break time. Boring AF.
I duel here and there but I do agree, you put yourself in a vulnerable spot just outside smc. I often ask the opponent if they want to hang out in OS instead but most don’t these days.
Kinda goes both ways, don’t cry if you get run over dueling and don’t cry if you get ganked and are known to interrupt duels.
Honestly, I think a lot of power based players blow every skill they have for those massive critical hits. I can basically play with them and see them mashing the hell outta their keyboards during fights desperately trying to might up while chasing me. Too many 5 second wonders out there and not enough epic fights left in this game.
I think the main issue is that the alert is in the middle of the screen. I think it would be sufficient to have it in the chat channel only, but I don’t want to see it go away. Those notifications are a constant reminder that there is action going on and makes the maps feel more alive (imo).
Agreed and most have mentioned that in various other posts. Right in the middle is the worst idea.
The imbalance is real. No matter what my toughness is I get hit by certain skills from 8-14K having 2-3+K toughness.
I don’t think the mass amounts of interrupts are helping this game at all as well. I’ve noticed I can force most classes to never heal just interrupting the hell outta them.
Isn’t DK still playing? He’s a PPT machine and usually finds a way to win matches.
Someone said he announced on team speak that he’s gonna be pulling 24hr duty tonight. :-D
Jesus…..I think I’ll do some yard work and build another raised vegetable garden this week. WvW is zzzz zzz mode.
Soon LOL
How will anet employees function in the real working world when the game officially dies I wonder. Their new bosses are going to reply “ummmm exact date? I’m not familiar with the term soon”.
Isn’t DK still playing? He’s a PPT machine and usually finds a way to win matches.
I like to use it and follow an enemy player and whisper them. “I’m close….very close to you” Then they spam aoe all over the place getting nervous.
“You’re getting warmer….oh so close, get ready!”
Thanks for the troll weapon anet, I’m just going to use it frustrate players and mess with them
My favorite part of the game is to pick off you cool kids in the big guilds though desperately trying to make your way back to your precious guild or zerg
Many JQ players answered the call to fight the evil empire that gathered on TC, before this so called balance patch arrived. But most JQ players already left the game, stopped playing, so the huge playerbase means just unused accounts now.
It’s up to Anet to really balance the game. So far we have excellent SEA coverage, some OCX, but lack EU and NA. It’s not just JQ that is outmanned in certain timezones, and the current linking system does nothing to address this.
Anet has to come up with a better plan quickly, because the players in outmanned timezones – on all servers – can’t have fun playing WvW, and thus will sooner or later leave, resulting in even less overall WvW population. Blaming players for the imbalance is fine to some extent, but useless: this needs to be fixed and now, not a few months later.
Dead on, now not a few months later. I thought the latest update was a good foot forward for anet, but honestly the mode is just boring and dead for the most part and will continue to taper off. Reality is INC.