My fear is that they will once again go with dissolving communities even more. Small guilds are already dead or on life support, anet seems to favor massive 400 man guilds with no identity or eotm 2.0, which has no meaning. Grinding towards some stupid idea that it takes a massive guild just to claim a camp and the little working class has no place in wvw.
Anet doesn’t get wvw, they don’t understand what wvw means to the players as far as diversity. You have your solo players who are quite useful to servers in taking camps + vets, you have small time guilds who are capable of being ninjas and stealing towers, and you have your pugs tags and players who are a big part of the ppt game. If they focused on those three aspects I think they would succeed but we all know what route anet will go. BOOM COLORS BOOM PVE!!! HYPE TRAIN ALL ABOARD.
I would think they’d want their solo players to keep playing with the whole twitch tv thing and free advertising. They got some real dumb dumbs not identifying the market lol
For me this is the first mmo I actually felt part of a little community. At launch I started on Kaineng and joined BMS guild. It was so kitten ed fun to raid nearly every night and I still have fun memories of the BMS and CNB tag team guilds going up against insane blobs together. I remember commander Sano from CNB on Kaineng, the great 47 from BMS, Guardian Angle, and Ajax Blue being a jerk in map chat. Little did I know, the fun times would only last a few months till the transfer rave started. That’s when I left with BMS to Fort Asp. where I have tons of fun memories on that server.
What’s everyone’s opinion of the state of each tier. Obliviously asking all what server and tier you’re on.
T1 YB
The tier has a little of everything luckily being the state of the game sucks currently. JQ is a pug driven server and usually has a massive force. BG could be a fun server IMO, they seem to have a lot of small guilds that stick together and a few roamers who are very nice to duel. I do like YB because of the community and they were the only open server a few months ago, hence why I’m here now. What makes them good is their communication and drive for ppt, it’s a rarity obviously these days but nice to see a server care. I’d recommend BG overall though.
T2 old friends on that tier
From what my buds say there’s guilds joining up with TC trying to push them up. DB long ago bought several guilds, ppt focused guilds mainly from what I hear like SN from kaineng. I can only speak from casual whispers from FA friends but I guess they are a broken spirit from what they once were. Overall, I guess it’s boring from what I’m told.
T3 SBI
I really love SBI. The server has a lot of fun people to hang out with. I feel like this is the best tier for fights right now. I’ve spend only 3 weeks here on my second account but fights are fun as hell. Mag is the larger force but you commonly find a three way fight during NA prime that isn’t too zergy IMO. Roaming is decent and I don’t see trash cheese builds that much surprisingly like T1. A few guilds from kaineng showed up on SBI and hopefully will help them with ppt and such. I highly recommend this tier, all three servers seem fine.
Funny thing is, if BG or JQ started “playing the game” and “using the tools” anet provided the same way yb does, yb would be crying all over the forums.
And you know this how?
Well YB started to cry about a 2v1 a few days ago.
I like how one person says something and you say the entire server thinks that way.
IMO I prefer to be 2vs1 because we don’t have to leave our side to get bags.
I’m fine with it as well, more players to fight. I like to go to JQ or BG side while they 2v1 YB and steal their camps and vets + pick off their pugs. Has it’s positives I guess.
For me it is roaming. I feel like the game mode is forcing players to use HoT. Every encounter is some stupid reaper necro or dare devil thief. I just miss the random classes you could fight. Every kid is running the same boring thing. I seem to remember a lot more variety pre-hot, at least I made some cool interesting builds with necro. Today I encounter a necro for example and think “ok….chills…reaper…chills…reaper…chills…reaper, oh look he’s using torment sigil”. Just getting boring, MORE DIVERSITY.
“Nights are less dark”
I like my nights dark Tyler…..real dark.
Should be removed…..
With this guy, stupid gimmicky idea, remove please.
The odd part to me is the top points server (YB) has no massive guild and no guild stacking. The game changed a while back at least in T1. Sure YB struggles to compete against organized guilds in open field but its overall decentralized power structure allows it to adapt to general player attrition better.
Running many more havoc groups invariably frustrates zergs because they spend a considerable amount of time chasing smaller groups and losing objectives. Basically if you like to blob fight with big guilds, going against YB has to be annoying as hell. Course Chris going against Sekz in EBG during NA prime is no picnic either.
This guy speaks the truth. I often wreck havoc on enemy BLS to encounter a 30+ man zerg responding from JQ. It’s like they have no havoc or roamers?
I have to admit that it’s pretty disheartening to come back to find my server has basically surrendered and if I want to get into some good heavy WvW action, I’ve got to transfer. I’ve been on BG since the beginning. There used to be this sense of community we built with pride and loyalty and now it just seems dead. I’m glad I logged in first before I put out the money on HOT lol
I only came to YB because it was the only T1 server open awhile back, I wanted to roam and heard action action action SUPER ACTION T1 boom because the tier I was in was dead as a fly! I find the roaming is kinda dead now in T1 and have no idea how T2 is currently. T3 is ok on my second account I guess.
I do find BG roamers to be very polite and easy going when I do come across one, in fact I think they may be the coolest out of the multiple tiers I’ve been on. I do hope BG returns to their former glory, sorry bud
Your video could shed a few tears. I hope to find you in the next mmo and cross paths, then kill you. Good luck friend!
I would believe it, JQs little lapdog BG isn’t being a nice little doggy and providing the heat they need to keep YB down in ppt. They’ll call on their next doggy in the window TC and the 2v1 cycle will continue. I don’t care who it is, I just roam, fresh faces to fight, sounds good to me let JQ or BG fall to T2.
You seem slightly bitter that it took wvw dying for yb to shine a bit
I hold no allegiance to any server or guild, I run solo and roam. It’s just fun to watch you guilds and servers play politics. I’m just a transferring prostitute who loves roaming
They became JQs servant. Break away from JQs tyranny and you will succeed, guilds will come, players will come but nobody wants to be someones political lap dog
I remember the good ole days at launch I was in this small zerg busting crew on Kaineng. I remember everyone in team speak anticipating the new match up one week and IOJ came up, everyone was excited saying “IOJ is fun to fight, sweet match up”. I feel bad for that server because it seemed like it had a strong community, always thought of transferring back then but never did. Good luck to you guys
I would believe it, JQs little lapdog BG isn’t being a nice little doggy and providing the heat they need to keep YB down in ppt. They’ll call on their next doggy in the window TC and the 2v1 cycle will continue. I don’t care who it is, I just roam, fresh faces to fight, sounds good to me let JQ or BG fall to T2.
Streamers are good for what they are, entertainment, they go from game to game an ride the hype train, nothing more.
Maybe as a community we can have understandings to keep the fights fun until anet comes up with tech in game solutions as well.
So I propose…
when in a match where 1 server is obviously larger than the 2 opponents combined –
the smaller servers become an alliance and the fight becomes 1v1when in a match, where 2 servers obviously outsize 1 small server, the smaller server can choose to have an alliance with their server of choice OR the smaller of the 2 larger servers ( when obvious) – and the fight becomes 1v1
the score then becomes understood as the 2 allied servers totaled vs the larger server.
You’re the red color I kill you, end of story.
What are you 12?
He’s highlighting the fact that such agreements are extremely difficult to make. WvW is a sandbox environment and people play how they want, including players who don’t read this forum. Unless the game is designed for it, it will not happen. That isn’t to say that players can’t try, just to say “don’t get your hopes up”.
I was just asking if he/she was 12. I know everyone enjoys the game for different reasons and in different ways. Even the same “game mode” (such as WVW) can be enjoyed in different ways by different people, but the whole “OMG you’re red name I HAVE to kill you” just seems so, twelve years of age mentality.
Despite varying “playstyles” I’ve had plenty of “dance parties” with “red names”. And that, is my point. Seems so immature to me to be like “ZOMG you’re red, you MUST die” when – we all play the same game. Like you couldn’t even be friends with someone if they’re on a different server (immature)? I have a few (even “RL friends”) that play on different servers. Sure if matched against them it’s not a “oh I wont kill you cuz you’re my friend”, but still – it sure seems WvW brings out A] the kids! B] the immaturity of people!
Again, we all play the same game – enjoy it a lil!
“lighten up francis”!!! Is something I would definitely say if they feel the need to ALWAYS kill ANYONE that’s a “red name”! You haven’t lived until you’ve had a dual zerg dance party at OW tower in EB >.>
And I didn’t even mean it insultingly, it was a serious inquiry because I have to wonder if A] they’re serious and B] why they feel the need to take a GAME so seriously LOL!
You sure felt the need to explain yourself, so serious lol
They have some meeting notes posted on reddit. Why there I don’t know instead of using their own forums. They were notorious for interrupting wvw reset night and kicking everyone, at least they know they have annoyed us in the past.
“We moved resets to Saturday because sometimes we do a build on Fridays and just about the time we wanted to activate the build was during the reset time. So we thought it would be better if there was no conflict in the timing of those things. Since people love Friday, but we might do a build on Friday, we need to talk about exactly what time of day would be good for the community, and then adjust based on that.”
Let’s see if they learned from their previous mistake……
I think some of us know the real reason certain Kaineng individuals are posting on this forum. Egos got the in the way, the grass is greener now
Maybe as a community we can have understandings to keep the fights fun until anet comes up with tech in game solutions as well.
So I propose…
when in a match where 1 server is obviously larger than the 2 opponents combined –
the smaller servers become an alliance and the fight becomes 1v1when in a match, where 2 servers obviously outsize 1 small server, the smaller server can choose to have an alliance with their server of choice OR the smaller of the 2 larger servers ( when obvious) – and the fight becomes 1v1
the score then becomes understood as the 2 allied servers totaled vs the larger server.
You’re the red color I kill you, end of story.
You know the drill here, create a twitch channel or you tube series, complain and post then expect an anet dev working on it ASAP.
Anet please, you can’t even attack SMC anymore
or at least increase the CD or nerf them
It can go away, so cheesy and gimmicky.
Hey now, I like my old school warrior
Thanks anet for ruining the ending of Citizen Kane for me
Hints:
bold italic google Rosebud...was his sled.
no way …commandertag should be 1000 G
Hell, let’s just get crazy. COMMANDER PROGRESSION. You have to pve too, none of that wvw stuff. You have to earn 1 billion HPs, buy a special bag of Doritos allowing you to tag up only 25 times (cost 200 gems per back), also teamspeak is now a gem purchase as anet has partnered with teamspeak (2000 gems) if you want access. In addition, only one tag per character now, don’t think you can work around the system. You want to command on warrior tonight instead of guard? HA think again, more gems and HP requirements. Nice try wvw community, THIS IS GUILD WARS 2 BABY!
I’m amazed that the server activity still says “medium” for some of these servers. It should be “dead” if anything. Kaineng recently had a few guilds leave and I’m looking to leave as well but no chance in hell I’m giving anet real cash, I’m selling my mats and going the gold to gem trade transfer up. Haven’t purchased gems in over a year and don’t plan to till they shape up.
Put all the stats and numbers you want, twist the tier game all you want, the game is dead and wvw is just boring, hence why guilds and players are out like sauerkraut.
And some people are falling for their little wvw overhaul. Anet just throwing chum in the water so the little fishes keep coming back, the ole bait and hook method. Overyhype train all aboard!!!!!!
Honestly, they throw little pieces of chum in the water baiting players back. Changing back to Friday reset, bringing back Alpine, etc….it’s too late for a ton of players. More hype train.
I would love to see it back at Friday! (yes!)
Pfff….FIGHT OWENS FIGHT
Out of any necro/x combo vs other small groups its Reaper/Herald to be more exact. Its an impossible to beat combo when both are specced and played well.
One could argue that stealth give you an advantage (ie glass cannon dual thieves), but really, it doesnt. It only allow you to flee. Which isnt roaming, that’s cowardice.
^This guy is correct, the little stealthly skinny jean wearing kids play stealth escape classes and don’t stick around to get punched in the mouth. The best roaming partner I ever had was a guard. I typically play necro and the support + boons he fed was incredible. But honestly, it depends on the player IMO, not a specific class.
FRIDAY, don’t care what time I’m on the west coast. Maybe Rebecca Black should convince you anet???
Well, based on my own little experience at my work our director got fired around 2 years ago and the search for a new one was pretty difficult. The last 2 years have been tough to watch personally and what I worry about with anet is that the place will dissolve with no leadership thus the game state sinks even more. Your work place becomes more negative, supervisors/minions get more dumped on them and they start working out of class, and chances are that Mike O Brien dude is doing 50 jobs at once now. That leads to unfinished projects, lack of communication, and stressing out the entire company because decision making gets put on hold because lets face it, lots of supervisors can never make one
What I do hope is that they move fast on getting a new director at the helm so the mentioned doesn’t happen because I can tell you it is quite miserable to watch.
I think it’s a good idea. One thing I really miss was being able to contribute to my server with my small roaming guild of 3-6 people. I felt like I was helping with claiming for +5 and such for pug tags, now I need 500000000 gold and endlesss amounts of this and that. small guilds were stomped on with HoT. No interest in guild upgrades anymore, too grindy.
WvW overhaul coming next week….100%….its famous streamer complaining. HYPE TRAIN CHOO CHOO.
Yep, youtube. Can’t infract him anet for being honest lol
Overall, he has as much info as we do on wvw, nothing but promises and claims “we are working on it”. It’s a smokescreen and like the wood guy said, they are not being transparent. So how can you blame the wvwers for being negative in the forums and not trusting of anet? Every red post is “I can’t share that, I don’t have information on that, wvw is a priority, etc…etc..etc” for quite a long time now.
Well, based on A.Net’s past behavior and patches, which is a good predictor of future patches, I expect MORE PvE in WvW and that part of the game will collapse.
I do not see a good future. The WvW players have given their opinions and with out any communication, from A.Net, expect nothing to change or get worse.
Sorry to be a ‘Negative Nancy’ on this but that is the way have done things.
I don’t think you are being a negative Nancy at all, I think you are being a realistic individual if anything.
WvW friends are moving onto black desert and speaking pretty highly of it so far, I think I’m going to join them soon here.
New Game Director is Our Best Hope Or Our Worst Nightmare
Chaba always puts it best. I for one have no faith in them, too many roamers, guilds, pvers, etc have left the game. Think about it what’s currently going on “wvw beta is coming soon!”. Beta……..3 years out, beta?
I’m sorry but I build systems for a living. After 3 years of running a system I typically say “added upgrade or improvement”, not blow the thing up and destroy it, then claim I’ve been working on it for a whole year and have unhappy customers to the point they give up on ya. Just pathetic LOL
I think they were sloppy, too confident and we all know they ignored our recommendations. All of that is coming back to bite them. Very hard lesson learned but customers will move on. In this case, plenty of mmos are coming out. Bad business plan on anets part.
Yeah….this is kinda getting pathetic at this point. T1 has no que lately even in EB at times during prime.
To bring PvE’rs into WvW, you need to make it worth their while… REWARDS..
Who says we need PvErs in WvW?
Mmmmm I love me some fresh meat in wvw. Every time I see a pve tag in wvw my necro’s thighs tingle. I say bring more pvers in!
LET THE SLAUGHTERING BEGIN
While losing Friday was bad, the real loss is all day Saturday. Half of every weekend gone, it’s added to the feeling of pointlessness in the score. Most matches being a foregone conclusion by Monday.
Under the old system we at least could have the illusion of hope all weekend.. Now Sunday night comes too soon. Saturday and Friday mattering not at all.
Anet, very poor planning and sloppy communication as usual.
Anet, Please remove it for PvE as well.
Actually it would be nice to be able to hide everything we don’t want to see. Storyline as well. Like we have “quit story”, but don’t start another one by default. If you want to give your players the liberty to play what they are interested in, please be considerate of PvE, PvP and WvW equally.
Personally as a PvE ONLY player, I do not care about seeing anything related to PvP and WvW and am glad the daily’s are at least separated in such a manner (although I also do not consider “activity” to be a PvE thing and putting in the daily for PvE is ridiculous, but that’s a different story).
Anet, he’s PvE only. Better get on that FAST.
I think another player said it best in another topic “can’t bring back the wvw population”.
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This game mode has no future.
I think the best thing at this point that would bring back population would be to scrap WvW entirely, not try to retrofit it, and introduce a new RvR game mode here that bears little resemblance to WvW. The replacement RvR has to be very fun and like a new game. Wild dreams…
Yeah, you’re probably right Chaba. Even though I’d miss the days of server pride and fighting different style servers it’s just over I guess. There’s just no rivals anymore. I’m not sure what direction you go because some mythological patch or overhaul isn’t going to bring back masses. Shame….it is indeed a dream.
I have been looking into options too to turn this off/turn it to chat, anyone around to tell how this is done?
Maybe an anet dev could respond?………get it!!!! Like communicate? hahahahhaa…….ok bad joke.
Someone out there….please….for the love of God. HOW DO YOU TURN THIS OFF? I keep reading in forums there’s a way but have yet to see any options? Maybe I’m missing something in my settings? I wouldn’t mind it in my chat box but right dead center in my screen is just annoying when roaming or dueling.
I think another player said it best in another topic “can’t bring back the wvw population”. It’s far too late and guilds have shrank to mere roaming groups or casual mode. Raids barely exist these days. And if a small guild is raiding they face numbers so great that they can’t counter the aoe storm and lack of stability. So they call in the blob, which any other server or group would turn to.
Players can transfer all they want, they can come to T1 looking for some dream of old school wvw but it’ll be the same issues. T1 is busy most of the time but each week you can see a slight change in population, leaving. The game is bleeding out. I’m noticing that youtube guys and gals that once played gw2 are now posting blade and soul vids or xyz MMO. Players are moving on, anet is stuck in neutral with a staff that is probably understaffed or has an unqualified leader at the helm.
This game mode has no future.
OP, that would involve Anet communicating effectively and keeping an open door policy. This is something they just simply can’t do due to stubbornness and unqualified staff given the past 3 years. They need to start contracting out their work, the current staff just isn’t meeting the industry standards.
Don’t worry Doc, that hard earned money and gem purchases we are saving and not giving anet will be spent on another MMO. Fear not….a great hero is coming.
Oh look another suggestion which was mentioned 3 years ago, and in fact the devs said good idea we’ll do it, yet still havent done jack!
Jesus……its been that long? The years have passed……..