Guild Wars 2

I’ll just gank for now.

Only this man can revitalize wvw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaWcAek5_JE

Men with extremely high testosterone run power necro
Women with extremely high fertility run power necro

Why: because there is no running or stealth, only fighting.

Warriors seem to own the roaming scene currently. Insane amount of passives incorporated into their builds. You can pretty much go autopilot with the meta build and down like 55 people.

WvW is probably the last thing on their agenda if even on the list.

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3033273&cloc=joongangdaily%7Chome%7Cnewslist1

Nikkinella.8254:

Aeolus.3615:

https://gamerant.com/for-honor-microtransaction-protest/

as a pvp/wvw player
we could do the same for gw2 wvw

Alot of us probably have already. I haven’t spent a dime on this game since HoT ruined wvw and refuse to ever give them any more money until they address the issues that are currently killing this mode, which we’ve all made them aware of and they have completely ignored. They can’t say they don’t know how to fix things here, we’ve already told them, they just don’t care and only want to focus on raids.

Same here, just not worth it. WvWers are show me people. Improve the game mode and then we’ll throw $$$ your way, keep saying soon and the wallets stay closed. Simple as that.

Part of me believes they just are not cut out for competitive pvp modes and are not sure how to balance their classes to meet players expectations. Hence the e-sports failure and now the major focus on raids/pve with an unfinished HoT product a year after release. Be prepared for xpac HoT mess 2.0

My gut tells me a group of devs at gw2 launch had a wvw vision, but those guys/gals moved on from anet most likely. This is what we got now unfortunately.

Swamurabi.7890:

I think threads of this type should be put into the

Inappropriate Forum Topics

She didn’t mentioned closing though. Please close all the servers.

Dontral.7490:

I think there may be some merit to that. Some of the matches Ives seen lately where statistically improbable. Three weeks ago CD was #11 and we where matched against BG and SoS. The odds on that matchup was less than 1%. Last week we where matched against BG again.

The odds against this happening by chance is pretty slim, which leads one to consider manual manipulation, and if that is true, why.

It could be for variety. It could be for network reasons, having essentially two instead of three servers in a match could cut down on perceived lag. It could be to discourage people from playing a game mode they no longer wish to direct time and resources into, or it could be they aren’t really paying attention.

Either way it’s frustrating. I’ve been pretty much strictly a WvW player for years. There are dungeons and places in the game I’ve never been, and not a single character of mine has completed a Living Story. I log in, check the matchup and go right into WvW.

Unfortunately the last few weeks I’ve just been getting to the point that just don’t want to take part in these lopsided matches anymore. Sure it’s fun to be the underdog and occasionally squeak out a win or two, but to be in that position week in and week out… it just gets fatiguing.

Fairly obvious why the manual manipulation is going on. Quarterly report is due soon and they need every little profit they can get to fudge their numbers. If that means at the wvw players expense and experience, anet will do it.

Let’s not forget this is similar to the last time we questioned why BG and JQ were opened magically a few months ago when they were already massive. The quarterly report was due soon. After that, they closed. Manual manipulation is at work.

Here man…listen to this, it’ll cheer you up.

MuscleBobBuffPants.1406:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVx1KU-sh0U>;

Interesting video about the summation of the current WvW status. He does raise an interesting point, is WvW not worth enough money to invest time and resources into it? Maybe they could input more gem content to raise funds for it? I am not sure. I think the next expansion will be the 100% tell-tale sign, if it doesn’t come with any significant WvW content.

Good video and whoever did the reddit post was spot on. They’ve been stringing along players way too long and this is just another attempt to dangle a carrot that will never drop to players.

They just can’t be trusted.

Terribad………..

boolah.1325:

Kilo.2539:

If you want blob fights and a “non-toxic” community, better to xfer EU.

NA players have just about ruined wvw on our side sadly. No pride, no kittens given.

So true..

EU has a much better WvW community compared to NA. Better fights too..

Unfortunately I think west coast players in the USA have no chance to play on EU due to the ping and such. I have heard the east coast players have a better time on EU servers. Something about new york city and super computers, stuff above my head.

I am curious why EU is much better than NA. My guess is the language barriers and the togetherness of an all x country server maybe?

LetoII.3782:

Still waiting on HoT fulfillment.
Think I’ll pass on the $50 trait line.

Agreed, unfinished product. Can’t trust these guys.

Packit.8576:

Feel like the main issue with recruiting is the pool to recruit from just keeps getting smaller

I find it condescending some of these long running guilds spew out community, server, and build your guild! But you’ll often see their true side when they lose fights and start attacking players in map/team and teamspeak about how “the pugs” caused this and it’s all their fault instead of offering them help. Why would new players stick around in wvw?

But you are right packit, getting tougher and tougher.

Dukotje.4382:

What concerns me the most is the fact that they don’t listen at all. Yes there has been a little period where Anet would ask the majority of wvw players oppinion, listening to the wrong side and ask the ppt players what they’d like to see, instead of the fighting side of things…

And yet after that there hasn’t been a single poll… with the most recent balance patch there has been an significant mold to the wvw scene… the stealth trapper condi thief… for weeks the wvw community was begging anet to fix the problem… not a single reply or response that anet was working on a way to fix the addressed issue…

And yet, the MINUTE word got out that he was killing slothasor SOLO… instant fix…

I am wondering why… arena net has a team working on wvw related releases, but are they working like Slothasor? every 20 lines of coding they fall a sleep? what is happening to wvw isn’t something new…. and yet they STILL aren’t able to resolve long lasting issues… their only response is: “THIS YEAR”

We should be giving this guy gold and gems to solo pve things on broken HoT classes IMO. He may be our hope to getting class balance.

Lahmia.2193:

The problem with doing anything is that it will upset a large portion of the wvw playerbase. The last time they did something big (Desert Borderlands) it killed off many wvw players. And if they did start listening to our ideas, who would they listen to? The roamers who want to punish all zerg play? The players who want condi removed? The K trainers who play for loot?
It seems the safest course of action for Anet is to do nothing.

I’ve had many indecisive supervisors like that in my career, they typically end up getting fired.

Spartacus.3192:

i was running around solo monday evening T2 and flipped 3 camps in 3 diff corners of the alpine borderlands and didnt come across a single enemy player. (NA Eastern time zone)

I’ve been 1v30ing BG all morning on CD….hasn’t worked out well so far.

No, we were assured small guilds would not be left behind……cue violin.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/guild-wars-2/guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-new-guild-features-wont-leave-smaller-guilds-behind

Nikkinella.8254:

RodOfDeath.5247:

In a boring condition loving match right now, thought I’d give pvp a try. That game mode is just as worse. I can see why people find both wvw and pvp boring/frustrating. Both game modes just are not fun.

I think its more than wvw they don’t give a crap about Nikki, the entire game is getting really awful.

You should seriously give BDO a try. its 10 bucks now so what have you got to lose? I’m actually in a guild in that game composed mostly of former GW2 wvw players. There’s actually alot of former GW2 players in that game. there’s another guild of them we see occasionally that came from gw2 who named themselves “The Condi Meta” just to mock the state of wvw here.

Actually a few friends at work are mentioning they converged to BDO and are liking it. I’ll give that one a shot, thanks

In a boring condition loving match right now, thought I’d give pvp a try. That game mode is just as worse. I can see why people find both wvw and pvp boring/frustrating. Both game modes just are not fun.

I think its more than wvw they don’t give a crap about Nikki, the entire game is getting really awful.

Sister Saxifrage.7361:

If condi builds, thieves, mesmers, warriors, and druids are all so OP… you could… try out condi builds, thieves, mesmers, warriors, or druids? If it’s the OP build that makes them win, if you have the build then you will win. Unless… could it be… it’s not the build, and they’re just better at WvW than you? No, surely not.

Says to use the OP build then says the player is not good because he doesn’t use the OP build, then goes on to say they are just better than you yet still use the OP build?

All over the place bud.

misawamitsuharu.7605:

lol man you guys find an other game already do you think anet cares? it’s been 5 years………………

Dude speaks the truth to be honest.

Aeolus.3615:

i dont got many hopes for WvW improvements, even if they add more rewards and ascended items, it means people will just ktrain harder and fasted and avoid fights.

WvW is already in bad state do how core WvW works plut on top a weird expansion callet HoT that made the unbalance reach the boillig state.

I dont know, Anet is being very obtuse of maintainning the stuff that is broken by default, since its low effort, playing this game or keep lookign to a blank wall might be the same thing in a few months.. IDK but might be. ~

It is not only add freebies to WvW, the gamemode is uselless even AB had more purposes… and the shrines didnt had walls.

Well, the quarterly report is out next month for gw2. The numbers won’t lie.

Ni In.6578:

Rambitshouse.8712:

Try being on CD this week bud lol

CD has never been out there to ‘win it’, though. The big guilds are after fights, and that’s about it. We get that regardless of tier in NA, and to some extent SEA, which is great.

But this thread will be closed as a match up thread soon enough, so I guess I’ll stop there.

Agreed and love being on CD. I am part of a small, very small guild that would like to go out and roam. We found that much easier to do on the lower tiers, as expected.

T2 hasn’t been that forgiving with large groups/havoc and the encountered builds are very cliche, expected if you will. Found much more diversity the lower you go and better fights IMO. I think the matches were somewhat closer previously. This current one is a blow out, in fact every tier looks like a blow out with the 2nd and 3rd place not very close as well.

Ready to move down a tier or two please anet. And you are right, they will close the thread soon enough so I’ll give it a rest as well

Get rid of the power reaper and go power death shroud necro.

Engelsstaub.4356:

Better get a desktop because they offer far better performance for the same price.

You can play on a laptop and even my, 4 years old with i7-3630QM and Radeon 7970M worls well enough. I do get drops to about 15-20fps in blob fights with character limits at medium. Newer generation CPUs should work significantly better. Something with an i7 and GTX1060 should let you max out the settings.

There is one problem with it and it’s the price. A 1060 laptop costs so much that you could get a desktop with a 1080 for same money.

Recommend any websites for those guys you mentioned?

I think once you’re dead, you’re dead.

Too many groups are using the res mechanic to the extreme because they simply have more players but don’t have the skill losing to a smaller group, therefore using it as a crutch.

No rallying at all IMO.

ThunderPanda.1872:

Large scale open sandbox PvP with gw2 combat and no p2w gear treadmill. What more should I ask for?

Suggest me another game like this and I’m ready to jump ship.

What he said. Plus waiting for another ship to board as well.

I’d just like an option to make the message that says who took what to be available or go away. Just distracting.

I’m happy. I can finally delete my ghost thief toon and make a 4th necro. Why I have so many necros I am unsure.

I bought a laptop because I always wanted one but grew up white trash.

I have a lenovo ideapad Y580, i7, gtx660M………what any of that means i have no idea.

Overall, I’m happy with it and don’t really get the heat issues others say. Runs pretty smooth and I guess my only complaint is the cheap keyboard they install on these guys. But I took other wvwers advice and bought a steel series keyboard.

Gist is, laptops work fine but you are at a handicapped spending so much with no future expansion/upgrades options. At least that is what others tell me.

Justine.6351:

OriOri.8724:

RodOfDeath.5247:

I fought a condi warrior the other night, longbow mace/shield. Fight lasted like 4 hours because of the bunkering and extreme crutch their build tree offers.

Real men play death shroud necro.

But everyone knows that Necro is the hardest thing to kill, easiest class to play, and most faceroll because you get a second life bar! (/s)

Necro isn’t the easiest kill, its the most reliable kill.

I’m just happy to derail the topic from warrior finally

Kinda boring thread.

I fought a condi warrior the other night, longbow mace/shield. Fight lasted like 4 hours because of the bunkering and extreme crutch their build tree offers.

Real men play death shroud necro.

Balthazzarr.1349:

TkMan.9638:

No wonder i can’t get anyone to play wvw with me. I was at a popular server moved to crystal desert and NO ONE wants to wvw.

TkMan… what is your times that you’re online??? I’m on off and on during the daytime and a lot of the time after 7pm most week nights (pacific time). If you want to join up for some roaming havoc send me a whisper or better yet join my guild so we can find you easy As I said in my previous post.. I get frustrated, but I keep going back for more!

Same here, on CD myself and always looking for people to join up with my tiny roaming guild. I’ll roam with you guys if you want, I’m a terrible vanilla necro but I can tank like a boss

Nikkinella.8254:

Alot of falsehoods being spread around by condi players. You can very easily negate power damage to practically nothing with high armor and constant protection and weakness spam to the point you can ignore power players completely. I can easily 1 vs 4 most power builds with very little investment in defensive stats against power damage because of that. On the other hand, i can spec entirely againt condi with anti condi food, runes, traits, and its still a struggle to kill some condi builds just 1 vs 1.

Power damage is additive. If multiple power users are attacking you, you can still survive because theyre all doing the same negligible damage against you. Condi damage however stacks multiplicatively when more players are added. The damage becomes exponential against more than one condi user at a time and it gets to the point that regardless of how many cleanses you have, it becomes impossible to deal with without complete immunity.

You should not be able to 1 vs 10 and stack 50 bleed instantly by yourself and nearly kill that group. That is not balanced. That is not skill on your part, that is called overpowered. The majority of players that play condi only think they are good, they aren’t. Theyre being carried by a broken mechanic and they know it. Which is why they argue so hard against it when anyone suggests something to balance it. They like their god mode and don’t want it taken away.

The fact of the matter though is regardless of your personal opinion, it isn’t healthy for the game mode in its current state. There’s a reason why everyone blobs up now and stacks resistance as much as possible. There’s a reason why GvG is dead now and there’s few roamers to be found now. Those of you who only ever zerged before and got sick of being crushed by more skilled players finally feel useful and i could understand that. But the current state of condi is driving away the more skilled players that enjoyed GvG and fast paced, skill based combat as opposed to our current skill-less condi spam meta. It doesn’t take any skill to have 3k armor and 30k health, press 2 buttons and kill groups of people.

Only March and this guy gets post of the year. Spot on.

Kamara.4187:

RodOfDeath.5247:

Kamara.4187:

Very few are willing to babysit upgrades, siege and refresh siege all day and night because there is very little incentive or fun doing it all day and night. Why make it worse?

True, but there are people out there willing to do it. I think it’s up to anet to help promote upgrading.

And I’m not talking massive guild requirements and time frames. I’m talking about a player who shows dedication on their own.

Create an AP, reward of gold, and sup siege bundle. I would think that would be attractive to a player. AP rewards some ascended back piece that is unique. It could be a freaking trebuchet back piece art or something. Or several pieces…GASPPPPPP ANET.

I’m with ya! Something needs to be given to promote and reward the few that are willing to take on the mundane job of watching a keep. They are really special and any team is lucky to have them. I say that not because I do it often but because I am happy when I have others watching over the other keeps so I don’t have to try to keep them all up! Which I have done more than once.

I spend most of my time roaming, but coming across a player showing that much dedication hits a soft spot. They really are a diamond on servers, yet are not given the love. I would ask servers start throwing gold at these individuals for their time spent.

Anet, you feel me bro?

Kamara.4187:

Very few are willing to babysit upgrades, siege and refresh siege all day and night because there is very little incentive or fun doing it all day and night. Why make it worse?

True, but there are people out there willing to do it. I think it’s up to anet to help promote upgrading.

And I’m not talking massive guild requirements and time frames. I’m talking about a player who shows dedication on their own.

Create an AP, reward of gold, and sup siege bundle. I would think that would be attractive to a player. AP rewards some ascended back piece that is unique. It could be a freaking trebuchet back piece art or something. Or several pieces…GASPPPPPP ANET.

Burn guard
DH-trap ones seem a little ridiculous
Chilling death necro
Anything thief, autopilot mode
Warrior, regeneration is insane.
Mesmer-think we all know condi ones are king

Ranger IMO is the most broke. The class has access to everything-stealth, immobilize spam with optimum range kiting, condi, pet damage, traps, healing bunker, and a celestial god mode.

TakeCare.3182:

Sarrs.4831:

Yeah.

I hope we can find a better long-term solution because T1 is just hell at the moment. Can I go back to 3-4 please

No joke. Nothing like getting zerged 1v50 because you don’t have any allies on the map. lol

Think that’s all tiers and the game in general but gets better in the lower ones.

Zerged or condi “roamed” to death 1 poor player is the anet way lol

I personally miss daily AP like reviver, recycler, and dodger…….sigh those were the days

WvW is a no fun zone and the fun police will be contacted for your post Tricare.

Jayne.9251:

Jamais vu.5284:

apharma.3741:

The thing about the ones who are racist, sexist or generally rude is they often don’t think they are when really they’re alienating a lot of players. The people that don’t want to join TS because of the general rudeness, sexist remarks, racism whether mild or extreme aren’t doing so because this one time someone said something mean. They don’t join because more often than not they hear these remarks over and over again and decided their life is better off not hearing people. You don’t need TS to stick to the commander, push, regroup, blast, change direction etc, if you’ve ever done anything slightly organised you can read the situations and know where to be.

This isn’t about talking either, it’s about having to hear this rubbish while being on TS whether you talk or not.

I don’t generally join TS because having fought the server we are linked with I came to the conclusion they’re a bunch of immature players who happily gank others, spam emotes and bleed them out for no reason than to be salty. I don’t care if the commander has a voice like the smooth crooning of Frank Sinatra, I won’t join because I think they’re a bunch of kittenbags.

If those remarks are not intentionally inflammatory, maybe it’s time to grow a thicker skin. You know, despite what some splinters of society and certain blogs are trying to make you believe, you do not have a duty to take offense.

The thicker skin argument is a strawman.

It’s an excuse for crappy behaviour. Period.

Why not try not being adults?

Because they can’t help themselves.

There’s too many players joining in the conversation of who can be the most disgusting or offensive in teamspeak because after all, they’ll fit in like an episode of sweet valley high.

Then you have you drivers, screaming into teamspeak blaming players instead of identifying what the team or guild could have done better during a fight when parties would not appropriately set up in the first place. Heard too many good players driven off teamspeak because for some reason one player apparently lost an entire fight. Highly doubtful.

amphrama hits it best, people don’t want to hear this trash in TS. Just a bunch of kids with access to a mic at the end of the day.

ArchonWing.9480:

Reverse psychology. People complain about ghost thief and it gets stronger.

Thus you should be posting:

I think stealth and conditions are perfectly balanced. I enjoy how it allows me to have so much fun farming scrublords. Please don’t change it at all, it lets me stick the game mode I want so I don’t have to pve or anything.

Then you post, get someone to post, or simply just find a video of a heavily and obviously edited MLG video of people pwning various nubs (remember to cut out the parts where you die) to obnoxious music as your proof and then give some kind of one-liner slogan to people that reply poorly. At this point the word “toxic” will appear and this is your cue that things are working right.

At this point they will think you’re having too much fun and will proceed to ruin everything on reasons of toxicity. (read: every PvE Farm)

My god….you’re right. This whole time we were going about it wrong.

I…. I love wvw? It’s so, fun? My favorite part is roaming. Umm, perplexity runes are great great great!

Jacion.6302:

RodOfDeath.5247:

T1 and T2 drama……lol

I personally couldn’t be more glad now that my server is scrapping in lower tiers, we ran up to t1 and things got dirty with bandwagon, whiners, mercs and condi spam servers…

Now we have a beautiful population every night, active community, no reason for mercs to come here and good fights.

You “elites” can keep the top tier whine game, our fights are still gvg and blob 40-50 v 40-50 but without the drama.

The cool kids can stay up there and cry about tier games. Loving the fights down here and respect to the other servers, been really fun lately.

Even that siege loving server is fighting

zinkz.7045:

RodOfDeath.5247:

WvW is an adapt or perish game mode. Has always been so this is what we’re given so adapt.

Or the third option that most players have taken which is simply to go play something else less kitten.

True that friend. Plenty of good games out there.

As always I think we can blame HoT in this case.

I specifically remember during the 1st year of wvw my driver asking me to try out epidemic during a few raids. It was pretty “epic” alright even in the power age. So we were using it with great results, got two more necros and it became part of our core utility skills. So it is nothing new.

HoT amplified condition damage so of course everyone is going to run it, just another cheesy advantage but it is manageable with the right players/builds/utilities.

WvW is an adapt or perish game mode. Has always been so this is what we’re given so adapt.

Junkpile.7439:

rechner.1408:

ez fix for WVW only:

+10 cd
only 5 stacks max (mby + remaining time -50% or something)
shorter range (cast and effect range!) + 1 sec cast time

there u have it a not op skill and not a dead skill WOW

Your personal l2p issues isn’t good reason to make skill totally useless.

I was an epi hater till running with a solid guild lately. I even ran guard and was getting epi’d every 5 seconds I’d say. Run the proper skills and builds and it’s actually not that bad.

With L2P issue argument but can see the argument to increase the cooldown time.

T1 and T2 drama……lol

gebrechen.5643:

The problem with necromancers these days is that you have to take them serious as opponents. That wasn’t the case for how long now?
Necromancer was in a bad state in spvp for three to four seasons and was viable with a good team supporting you. Almost no one roamed on a necro, because you had almost automatically loss against mesmer, thief, warrior, ranger and dh. Now necros are good against at least three of them and especially in team fights.

Meanwhile guardians, thieves and many other classes were buffed too – but that’s ok, because the majority of these classes were already played before and no one cries after his class gets a buff.

We sure can talk about reverting the deathly chill change, but in the same second we have to talk about stealth nerfs (finally) and why guardians are the most important class in wvw and how we change that so other classes are on a equal level.

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So true, we get one tiny toy and the big kids can’t stand it. Players want to immobilize a necro for 3 hours and bomb them for an easy bag. Now they have to be careful for once and don’t like it.

EB is the most action based map. DBL, ugh I hate that map.

I do visit enemy bls but it feels very quite most of the time. The problem is the population has dwindled so much that every guild left goes to EB because after all, that’s where the fights are most of the time.

There is a small core of people still protecting their home BL and are some of the most fun people in game.

However, you are right the auto upgrade took away a responsibility of players who had a thing for it. It was a really bad addition to wvw as it further diminished community/attitude because “who cares” now.

Is there a monitor out there that calculates activity in EB versus other maps? I think we all know the dominant map, but just curious what the % is.

SkyShroud.2865:

Shadowsong.2569:

With the release of raids and other content in Guild Wars 2 WvW has become less popular on high population or full population servers.

Contradicting…..Isn’t full means it is still popular in mentioned servers? What you said is defying logic.

Shadowsong.2569:

For competitive WvW guilds this can be frustrating having the lack of man power.

Don’t make sense. Your first sentence is contradictory, your next sentence you try to say it is frustrating because lack of manpower, but isn’t it full? Huh?

Shadowsong.2569:

[SG] Shadow Gypsies is trying to make a change.

Should I reinterpreted it as you have moved to lower tier and realize that lower tier does not has as much population so it is very frustrating? But it don’t make sense, your next sentence say you want to make a change but change is always frustrating.

Shadowsong.2569:

We are looking to fill Darkhaven with guild that have been looking to move servers for a more competitive WvW habitat. Darkhaven is the new future to WvW, we will be the new number 1.

Then you want more guilds to stack on the server, wouldn’t that become yet another Full server? So, what’s the different? Is the “change” you seeking for is just to make a new number 1? Arghh…..my brain.

Edit: I forgot to mention I reported the post, LFG post should be in LFG and not in WvW forums.

HoD guy, I hear DEF guild is eyeing up to transfer from SoS to HoD? At least that’s the latest bar talk.

I think you make good points to the SG guy though our tiny CD/Bears roaming crews tear them to pieces, hence why they want more guilds/people