yeah but is this going to fix your 0.5 kdr that’s the real question here
you know what? I don’t mind losing to maguuma, but i do mind when you decide to be arrogant about it. you know you have more than three times our numbers and coverage.
know why you win. just as we know why we’re losing.
DB had 3 times the coverage as Mag and they had a similar KDR to SBIs. Last time we were matched with them was like 2 weeks ago and they are a T1 server now. All I am hearing from you are the typical excuses about numbers that everyone makes when they play poorly. Win or lose a fight you can always do better, thats the Mag attitude and way and its why we focous on getting better as players and guilds and SBI focuses on things like this.
Wait….are you crying? LOL
I didn’t mind the lack of queues. The maps didn’t feel empty and the fights were fun.
I’d be happy if the populations stabilize where they are.
Well, I guess I should see the positivity in what you said. Just feels like the population is getting smaller IMO but is probably what is expected.
I’m too tired to read but get rid of the massive “Server took North Camp!!!!!!” messages.
I’m sure the roamers and duelers would be happy or at least make it an option. People say you can turn it off but nobody seems to know how?
yeah but is this going to fix your 0.5 kdr that’s the real question here
you know what? I don’t mind losing to maguuma, but i do mind when you decide to be arrogant about it. you know you have more than three times our numbers and coverage.
know why you win. just as we know why we’re losing.
Just ignore the little french fry, as long as you’re having fun who cares what anyone thinks.
“I’m gonna actually come out with little salt packets, hand ’em out, and they can all be salty in the audience.”
Eva Marie greater than TRex, fact.
No ques, FA server, every BL 2 hours after reset. Ouch anet
I just want to have fun again in wvw with epic fights and roam without getting cheese builds poured all over my head while the enemy dips nachos into my corpse.
I just don’t care for rewards, weapon skins, stacking servers, and whatever else we cry about. I just care about everyone having an awesome experience when they log into wvw and having that community feel again. Though…it probably is long gone lost in time.
That is what anet is missing. They seem to think throwing rewards at players and coming up with useless polls is what we need. We need a face of wvw, some type of John Cena.
Pretty much since launch. The little darlings in T1 get special treatment.
I thought that one guy said we’re really into pve if we play wvw?
Same here….T2 is boring. 5 of us will try to take a tower and 50000 JQ will come “steam rolling” around the corner. I realize they want to push to be in T1, but these match ups and server linking are a disaster.
6 more weeks of this sounds painful and boring. It’s just going to drive off more players the more anet lets this continue.
As a necro I want my flesh wurm to be treated better by anet. I will call PETA soon if necromancers do not get the same treatment as the glitter eles and skinny jean wearing thiefs.
I vote no but I could see how some lower populated servers need it to fight the bigger blobs that need every little buff they can get.
Politics in T1 do not exist. Its pretty much BG’s call as to who will take the 3rd spot once they have a willing 2nd server who is satisfied with a 2nd place finish. Once that pecking order is established, BG zergs and #2 guild plays with them in parallel. See multiple posts above. Anet should add decreased supplies and rapid “siege” deterioration to compensate, like over extension of supply lines irl.
Sorta contradicted yourself. No offense intended
I love the fact that Anet completely ignores it’s player base. You didn’t get any answer. I do see Anet claiming towers and keeps for winning servers. I don’t see Anet owning up for the unbalanced matchups. Anet does not go to the servers that got destroyed by the beta. It seems Anet is content on steamrolling its player base that is down and ignoring all of us. I’m a Darkhaven player.
It would be nice of them to come out with a write up. Doesn’t have to be anything fantastic but could point out the pros and cons of the server linking. Just some type of update once in awhile with a clearly outlined work plan and organization, not “we have no eta” or “soon”. I just don’t understand how that is considered a professional answer, especially to paying customers. Anet just seems highly disorganized with no transparency about the future. You can’t just roll with it, players will continue to reduce playing time or worse, quit. Even the pvp forums are complaining balance, build diversity, player boredom, etc…..highly similar to wvw. It just seems in general the entire game is suffering. Though I understand players will complain about minor things but the complaints do have some validity to them when it comes to wvw and pvp.
However, the majority of us wvw players are dissatisfied IMO but I’m just one player. I can’t trust that servers like JQ, Mag, or CD are enjoying wvw right now. Some fights are fun, little roaming fights are fun, but the game mode is suffering horribly bad week by week. It’s gotten boring again and the hope for bringing more wvw players in doesn’t seem to be happening, unless others are seeing a massive influx on their server of new players, just not seeing it on my FA or SBI accounts.
That’s my salt shaker for the day
Can we just ban thieves from WvW till this is fixed?
Does it need a 75% vote to pass?
At times I think they need to put Mag, JQ, and CD + their partner servers all in T2 and redistribute the rest of us into T3.
But then I remember how the blobs are busy queing up maps ringing up orange swords constantly and the lag affecting roaming. It’s a little frustrating and typically leads to most logging off.
I just wish anet would acknowledge posts like yours OP instead of just letting it build and build into an argument on the forums.
Thanks for posting this info snow! Nice of you
I think the point is this is bad for the game. Not that it has counters or that it’s not an efficient build or that proficient players with sufficient condi clear can deal with it. That it simply exists is the problem, you want to encourage new players to try WvW.
You get new players coming out to WvW and running into a duo of 2 thieves with this spec. Do you think that player wants to return to WvW? He just ran around getting a bucket load of condis on him from some players he never saw. Then fell over dead.
This is the important part, in a game that encourages “active combat”. Where’s the play/counterplay in a fight where you see neither of your 2 opponents the whole fight and eventually fall over from condi spam? How is this encouraging new players to try WvW?
In a fight with 2 ppl that are visible at least a part of the time, even the newbiest WvW player can ‘play his hand’ so to speak and try to land his skills. He gets to engage in the combat, and interact with his adversaries.
Well said man. I remember first coming into wvw 4 years ago. I use to get nuked by thief’s and get frustrated till I learned to roam because of patient friends I had back then that played.
With today’s crazy HoT builds, I couldn’t imagine being a pve player and coming into wvw as fresh meat. I imagine it would just frustrate new players and they’d just go back to pve land.
My understanding is that guilds run T1, they move around a lot to keep certain servers in T1 and adjust to the ppt and score. Other than that was in T1 for a few months and the politics were just weird.
Eight pages of this nonsense? The WvW forum loves to talk.
Agreed lol
I thought the point of WvW was to buil community on the servers.. constantly swapping out half the “community” doesn’t feel like it’s working towards that goal. :p
That died when anet killed small guilds. Community made wvw and the small guilds that where the back bone of many servers back then, all gone now. No rivals, no competition, nothing. Nearly every tier is a blow out with one server being the mega power.
Gem transfers over players, new business philosophy.
JQ owns T2
Mag owns T3
CD owns T4
Guilds own T1
See the beta worked=gem transfers for anet due to horrible state of servers/matchups.
Nah, game mode is a complete mess.
Anet seriously… Why are you wasting time on making stupid polls like this. We dont care about dumb repair hammers. We want you to work on real things and fix whats wrong with WvW before you add new things.
Take a poll on what should be next thing you guys should work on like few here.1. Start balancing classes, skills and traits for WvW only.
2. Make major cities like LA, DR, Grove.. etc into server based only for recruitment purposes.
3. If seasons should return or not.
Etc!!!!Guys leave some ideas or things anet should create polls on beside these dumb repair hammer polls.
1. I honestly believe they can’t balance classes/traits because they don’t even know what wvw needs to begin with.
2. They would just screw it up.
3. They would just screw it up.
To make it look like anet was doing something? Come on, too obvious lol
Yeah they need to fix something fast. Unless their intention is to kill off all small servers and let players pay to redistribute themselves on the main servers.
working as intended?
Starting to look that way. It’s dirty, but I wouldn’t expect any less from anet. Gems over players.
What’s outnumbered for FA? Spell mentioned 6 hours a day. That sounds too good to be true? Are there queues? How are the fights?
Between 4pm and 1am EST are the most active hours. After that, it gets pretty slow. Usually a few tags working the BL’s and EBG is neglected unless the keep is attacked or someone feels like committing to taking SMC.
Outnumbered is Outnumbered buff. Early morning, 5am through to 12pm EST is usually when JQ is the largest and we’re the smallest, although we do sometimes have a group rolling around that can compete with them. Most mornings JQ just papers everything everywhere though.
Maybe it’s different in a less top heavy match when the fair weathers aren’t avoiding WvW but in the week or so I’ve been here, this has been my experience.
And things are going to get worse now in T2. JQ gained LGN guild, who will ppt and defend like crazy. JQ has tons of players and the outnumbered buff is just normal operations on FA lol
sometimes i feel like anet intentionally kittens something up so they can spend next few months “fixing” with minor changes like this
Game is a disaster, complete mess.
I commonly end up with 20+ stacks just skirmishing by sm. It’s a little over the top and stops some fights cold. Perma treb poison and swimming in ac/cat spam is bad enough
Yeah, siege is kittened. It’s all we ever fight in t3. I’m pveing for APs now out of sheer boredom.
It’s not much different in T2 with JQ massive blobs. T2 is getting boring as well.
I don’t even bother defending walls, 50 zerker staff eles and 20 necros, and 1 mighty Coa of Ruin skill through gate…..not worth it.
Game is a mess.
Mag has a larger NA presence than the other two, so when facing such opposition one often uses any available means at their disposal.
Truth has been spoken.
Remember when devs use to communicate with their forums and collaborate with players? Days are long gone with these new age mmos/devs lol
That was cute lol
i don’t think any servers are bad at wvw. i have thousands of hours inside wvw and i’ve played on a handful of servers and every single one of them has the mentality that the servers they play against in any matchup are bad/keep huggers/siege humpers etc. i honestly think this is due partly to the fact that there’s no cross server communication in wvw and the enemy players just become <Server Name> Gold Soldier.
the truth is that every server is playing wvw in the exact same way. we all have pugs/pugmanders, we all have roamers, and we all have guild groups. we all have blobs and casual players that stay in keeps and fire acs at passing guild groups.
instead we should focus on which server has the most cancerous, elitist guild groups that try and lure pugs out of EB so they can do ‘muh zerg bust’ when in reality rolling 40-50 deep against an unorganized pug zerg on another server is just an effortless bag farm – the thing guild groups actually seem to be after. the second any kind of challenge arises, they just switch maps to find another easy, unorganized bag farm. if that doesn’t work they’re guaranteed to go troll on gw2wvw because they are le epic uncaring stoic internet hero.
inb4 trite ‘lel u mad bro’, packet-of-salt.jpg replies
claps hands – well said
*Stands up “yeah…..yeah…YEAH!”
I’m pretty surprised not one single match this week changed considering how varied matches were in the first time there was server linking and partial glicko reset.
Same, they are all blow outs. The more this continues the more bored players will get. Then….anet wil bring back DBL. Just wait till that fart of a map comes back lol
DBL is the lesser of our problems tbh…
True dat, game is a mess.
Bump please…needs addressed.
I’m pretty surprised not one single match this week changed considering how varied matches were in the first time there was server linking and partial glicko reset.
Same, they are all blow outs. The more this continues the more bored players will get. Then….anet wil bring back DBL. Just wait till that fart of a map comes back lol
Fort Aspenwood BL queue was 30 after reset when I looked at it. Guess it would have been 32 if the crafting stations were still there.
Yeah….not buying this crafting queue theory. 25 man queue tonight for FABL, only BL with que. Though JQ and YB hit our BL hard in the evening.
Anet is just bait and hooking players along till they can release another unfinished expansion IMO.
Their really was no plan for wvw in the long run, just little changes here and there to make it seem like they were giving it attention. Notice the forums have grown silent with red posts and players are always giving good feedback.
Doesn’t matter, gem sales are good most likely with transferring. That’s all they care about.
Same issues, not much has changed.
I honestly think they never intended to do much with wvw, just show a tiny bit of attention with pointless polls and posting a red post. Now it’s grown silent in the forums.
More smoke and mirrors from anet till they can release another unfinished expansion I’m sure.
When I roam I don’t stomp a player unless it’s outnumbered fight, I know what a biootccchh it can be to roam the map with that outnumbered buff
Lol, Mal and his sh…. crew are tanking it on purpose so they won’t have to face anyone else.
The game is rigged by very poorly designed RvR mechanics and a bunch of players who game the system.
ANET doesn’t care as long as you buy gems to transfer to the new Server of the Month.
What Grim said, don’t let anet take credit here. Guilds and players balance tiers and transfer left and right. As long as the gems are bought, anet is fat and happy. Let those gem purchases drop watch them panic as they did earlier this year.
I’m sorta dumb when it comes to any crafting or pve, why were people complaining again about crafting stations in wvw and what was the benefit? Some type of magic find wvw booster or something?
An x-guild turned me into this monster who never leaves outside wvw
Holy off topic necro on thread batman!
He necro’ed a 3 years old thread with a post that don’t even have to do with the main topic. I think we have a winner of “the worst necro of all time?”
Or clearly the strongest minion master to walk in MMO history?
Yes i do
I remember the ktrain went to bed but 15 of us and the great Ajax Blue stayed up and fought the 80 man YB zerg. I’m the nub in guild chat trying to sneak my slow necro past the zerg into the tower to my BMS guildies lolmiss those days on Kaineng, 3 years ago
Yea, I miss some of the old WvW stufff, but I certainly don’t miss Ajax at all. (If it is the same player that I am thinking of)
How could you not like ajax? It never gets old LOL
I suppose, if you like running with somebody who has the attitude of an abusive, spoiled 12 year old. The Ajax I remember on Kaineng was a decent wvw’er, but had this whole shtick of abusing everyone in map chat…..it got old in a real hurry….but my guild friends did tell me that it was just an act that he and his little squad ran….and to just ignore him.
I hadn’t seen him on wvw for a long time, until I saw him right after Kaineng got paired up with TC in the linking. I will admit that it was hilarious fun watching him get shut down extremely quick by TC’ers when he started to run his abusive shtick in map chat there.
I swear he was high whIle making that video :,)
No man or woman can silence the great Ajax Blue.
The best “roaming” (aka. running away) classes are thief, ranger, mesmer, and warrior. These classes, especially with HoT specs, are exceptional at running away, so you can kite around other “roamers” for days on end, or run away to a tower or camp.
Have fun “roaming”!
Salty zerglet detected…
But it’s the unfortunate truth how roaming really turned in chasing (instead of fighting) people who actually make their builds to run away (instead of to kill people).
Salty zerglet or not the dude is right lol
Roam build=swiftness, stealth, port away, reset. There ya go, have fun roaming
We wanna make sure everyone on maguuma is using it and looking like ND 24/7 so it’ll get nerfed. I try and teach it as much as i can even the enemy is picking it up. sweet.
I guess that’s kinda a good thing so more people complain about it, though I have little faith in anet.
I don’t know what you’re talking about, this seems perfectly balanced to me.
Holy crap lol
This game is a mess
sounds good xfering to BG now!
No no no! It was fun hanging out with sv last evening
In t1 roaming is called ‘spawn camping’
I like the ones that run cleric druid with life runes, then claim they are OP and great at the game, try to spawn camp and run when you beat them lol
ur tears r tasty
No tears, I just like your nikes. You can run really fast.
Honestly it’s everyone + every tier. Roaming is getting worse and worse with stealth and running away reset. I blame this on the players for the most part, we complain about the state of roaming but run cheesey builds that promote it.
I get few encounters now where the player wants to go heads up and fight till the end. If I win I don’t even spike them, just bow and walk away cause it’s such a rarity.
I just don’t know how you cure the current culture, reducing porting range or further reset ranges. People seem like they are super fast and get out of range within a second I guess for my slow kitten minion master necro lol