Guild Wars 2

The post HoT meta makes me sad trying to slip a power chrono burst in between all the blocks, it is true.

But the post HoT meta also makes me super happy when running my counter meta berserker build, guards, chronos, revs, anything that loves to spam reflects (scrappers, eles), seeing those animations/effects and the squee of delight as I dive headlong into them as they stand to take the oncoming onslaught.

I just wish I could proc an unblockable effect on my mes

Brian Boitano would take unblockables in this meta (1:20 onwards – gamechanger), that’s what Brian Boitano’d do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_78YhAAcs6w

Arya.3841:

Hey,

Just a small message for the PvP developers.
I am wondering if there is any chance to change the rules for season 4.

I had a dc during a game (my router suddenly shut down and I had to start it again). I came back in the game, fight hard with my team, we won each teamfight and finally the game.
But at the end I had the chance to see that I had dishonor and lost a pip. (goodbye winstrike)

If I leave a group in purpose, I get it, I should loose a pip, have dishonor but I came back, I fought, I won, I did a great job and for what ? Nothing…

Any chance pips are lost only if you don’t come back in the game before the end ?

I mean… What’s the point of coming back in the game if you already know you’ll loose everything ? This is a bit weird for me.

Cheers

Just ask yourself, what would Brian Boitano do?

It’s time for an S3 mid season motivational
https://youtu.be/_78YhAAcs6w

Just listen to the easy to follow instructions and you can’t go wrong. Summary at end if you miss anything.

<3

Raguel.9402:

Not this season but last one, I was in mid tier Ruby and I as a solo-queuer got into a match with a four-man premade on either side. Basically two solo-queuers were the literal fifth wheel in that game. Was a complete blowout too btw :-)

so yeah, premades, team and such should get their own queue pls :)

I’ve been the 5th wheel in matches a few times.

Generally I get an invite to the team after the match :D

ApaWanka.2698:

As a Scrapper main I can tell U that the easier way to kill Scrappers is with condition damage.

The Scrapper have a really good sustain but also have a lack on condition cleanses (more lack with medic gyro than turret version). The sustain can soak part of the condi damage but the lack of condition cleanses make it vulnerable against condibombs. Even more if the bomb is created with few stacks of different conditions than huge stacks of few conditions.

The “natural” counters of Scrappers are condi reapers and berserkers. Condi thiefs and chronos are problematic aswell but not as dangerous than the first two.

English is not my native language but I hope that everyone could understand what I am saying.

So what you’re saying is, the only decent counter to scrapper right now is the out of control condition burst/spam?

Ok then XD

Chaith.8256:

Ross Biddle.2367:

It’s pretty simple. Scrapper will not die.

Of all the responses to my post about people using exaggerated language, haha.

Language is an amazing tool, and necessity often demands an appropriate, even if simplistic, application :)

Chaith.8256:

Listing all the things that the professions does in awe inspired way doesn’t make for a good argument

edit: like dang, berserker has stability and CC AND CONDITIONS

It’s pretty simple. Scrapper will not die. Every other profession dies. Scrapper doesn’t.

To clarify: their survival might require a disengage (usually after a 25 fight vs auto procs XD ). But they can survive to return indefinitely.

Is that OP? Is that out of line? That’s the question :)

StickerHappy.8052:

fishball.7204:

Berserker has high sustain, high stab, incredibly tanky, great damage, decent condition management, great CC.

I do not know about condition management now after the LB cleansing ire fix.

Boon stripping a berserkers resistance in a team fight will ruin his day, only trouble is mes cant run domination atm.

Power berserker can easily counter condi berserker also.

Condi berserker is strongest with an ele support. Otherwise team focus, and/or a couple of counter builds exist in play.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Thanks.6859:

100 games played and 21 wins

what profession did you play during those 100 games ?
weapon sets
sigils
amulet
runes
healing skill
utility skills
elite skill
traits

and errr ross that’s really wishful thinking. XD

so far, i played 26 games, won 14 games, and just only had my first win streak of 3 games.

-

I blame your wife and kid for destroying your competitive edge.

ahhahahaah well they are not that bad actually.

i think other factor could be
age (1981 born)
not having jedi reflexes (can’t play “complex” professions like ele / thief / guardian etc)
very casual mindset (happy to reach ruby in both season 1 and season 2)
oceanic ping perhaps ? (average 200-300ms ping)

well those and plus i dun exactly copy the builds 100% from metabattle but refer to them and fine tune to my own casual play style.

at least i dun come to the forum and rage about mmr hell though. i think.

I’m a mes main, playing from NZ, 1983, and capable of running counter meta in lue of meta builds. No excuses! XD

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Thanks.6859:

100 games played and 21 wins

what profession did you play during those 100 games ?
weapon sets
sigils
amulet
runes
healing skill
utility skills
elite skill
traits

and errr ross that’s really wishful thinking. XD

so far, i played 26 games, won 14 games, and just only had my first win streak of 3 games.

-

I blame your wife and kid for destroying your competitive edge.

Topher.5631:

First off, no engi down state / single dodge won’t happen (it seems like a silly suggestion)

Second, I have been playing my engi recently and I have not lost a 1v1. I have an instant cast heal that refills when I hit 25% hp, an instant cast 50% damage reduction, instant cast remove 2 condis from everyone near me, and constant reflects / evade / block through hammer skills. If things get bad I have that auto elixir s proc at 25% hp and a sneak gyro if I need to get away. Needless to say, I haven’t lost a 1v1 because the class is that easy.

Going off of “the class carries” thing, whenever I duel a warrior I win 80% of the time. It might just be the warriors I was fighting, but when asked how to counter an engi on war, I can only guess, it seems like a flat counter.

I can route a scrapper on war, but as soon as he decides to disengage for reset, there’s pretty much nothing you can do to stop them.

Scrapper sustain is the height of REDIC! XD

Guys, the game just came out. At least give them a little bit of time to smooth out these edges.

Technically that’s potentially 59 pips if all 21 wins were a winning streak.

So you should be somewhere in the middle of tier 4 Sapphire. That’s a good nudge up the path so far!

~ I’m Helpful

Zynt.5769:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Yeah I know how he describes himself.

Yeah being on TS and playing matches is a great way to teach things. It’s not the only way though!

What? I’m confused now. Isn’t Ithilwen a girl? Do you know them IRL? Not trying to sound condescending or anything, that’s a genuine question lol.

Anyway, perhaps Ithilwen’s found some success with the Ele/Tempest aura share build. I think that class and setup might work out better for Ithilwen, rather than Mesmer.

I’m not sure what Ithilwens rules are when it comes to answering that question, he’s usually pretty open about it, but then I don’t want to risk an infraction divulging his story for him.

I can say I don’t know him IRL, but have known him via the game for a long while now :). Nice enough guy, not a troll, I find his threads highly entertaining and various aspects of him fascinating XD

StickerHappy.8052:

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Celine.6857:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

It shows the disgusting difference in skill Ithilwen has with an upper division player. She has been making threads throughout the seasons about how she is stuck because “MMR HELL!!!!” and how the game favors certain players, then she finally posted a video of her playing and its as bad as you can imagine. I very well know the game is not balanced on 1 v 1, but it will clearly show the skill gap. Anything in a 5 v 5 would just result in “ahhh my team was so bad why can’t I grind out games oh woe is me.”

It still doesn’t mean much though imo, because PvP is a team game and 1v1s don’t count for all the other things you need to focus on in a PvP match. It’ll show whether she can beat whoever in this 1v1 but that doesn’t really display what is happening in a match.

Where is this scrutinized video ?

Had to dig deep for this

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5CmlAUhxRY

My quick commentary: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Here-s-MMR-Hell/page/2#post6073135

What’s the point? We all know she is disabled, how come you guys expect more from her? why not just support her or team up with her?

You guys are should have a more understandable persona esp with people in need.

You are skilled right? (atleast that’s what I would like to think) I bet you can carry her? or maybe not?

It’s fair to point out things like this because if not, there’s no way to see what went wrong and comment on how to do it better. For example

https://youtu.be/k5CmlAUhxRY?t=669

Why stay to cap the point if you’re going to abandon it anyway? Then not watch the map for swords to which a person could have returned to hold the point. Of course if you didnt care to hold it, you shouldn’t have wasted time capping it in the first place.

This goes to the core of rotations and asking where you should be, and what you should be doing during a match. Simple things like these are the difference between winning and loosing a match. They’ll even cost you the game if hardcore pvp’rs have set out to carry said person to get their backpiece XD

Can we all just carry Ithilwen? Sure. That doesnt mean you can’t point out some simple things for him to think about while playing (some of us have PvP’d with Ithilwen back in the OMFG all mes team days too, btw ;D )

We can all go down to specifics or what not, but you guys are not understanding the very basic point here, She is disabled. No matter how much technicality we use here, nothing is gonna change. nothing. unless she gets a new hand (no offense meant here)

the best way is to team up with her on TS, and teach her from there. Nothing is gonna progress from these technicalities.

Also, dude, He is a she.

Yeah I know how he describes himself.

Yeah being on TS and playing matches is a great way to teach things. It’s not the only way though!

apharma.3741:

DoomKnightMax.6592:

I feel like buffing classes and traits is the wrong way to go about things. We already have issues with power creep, and 25 might self stacking classes are already a pain in the rear. It’s better to just nerf the living hell out of some (cough-condi-cough) play styles so that its not “one is better than the other”, but rather “one fits a situation better than another”.

To be fair that goes with just about everything.

#bringbackzerkmeta
#condigameplayencouragesbadplayers
#probablytriggeredfay

There is no situation that best fits shattered strength because it’s completely crap compared to the other choices. In fact there’s very few traits I would actually pick shattered strength over…

Except appropriately buffing a power burst. Maim on a 0 condition setup adds the slight benefit of a small (albeit better) amount of DoT. In a power burst, if you could have that equivalent or more up front within your shatter burst, you’d be silly not to take it (unless you’re reliably getting your might stacks, every burst, from somewhere/one else).

This is why even upping the might stacks per illusion shattered to 5 is meaningless without the QoL change. Without the immediacy of the might, it’s flat out pointless.

If ele werent so OP, I’d agree with you.

XD

StickerHappy.8052:

Vicky.4563:

You know, people charge for carrying. If she wants a carry, what is she willing to offer in return? I’m not a charity.

I typically admire the stoic types more, I’m more willing to help those who help themselves. I might be more sympathetic if she didn’t already have a reputation of being abusive towards her own teammates and enemies.

Which is apparently ok, because she’s disabled. So she gets a free pass when she’s rude, but other people aren’t allowed to be rude back.

The h? really charge? WOW. as if you guys are really THAT GOOD?

dude, are you disabled? If not, its best to understand why she is rude or anything. You will never understand that if you are or were never disabled in your life.

Coming from the health field here, you have no idea why people with illnesses act rude or whatever. It is hard to be in their shoes.

So you people without disabilities should be the bigger persons here. Is that really hard to do?

Technically, Stickers, Vickey is disabled for all you (or they) know, and perhaps their lashing out at this other so called disabled person is just their disability.

So if deep down we’re all really disabled, shouldn’t we all be free to act out and be rude as much as we want?

As the old saying goes, what’s good for the goose, is good for the gander :D

~I’m helpful :D

Vicky.4563:

You know, people charge for carrying. If she wants a carry, what is she willing to offer in return? I’m not a charity.

I typically admire the stoic types more, I’m more willing to help those who help themselves. I might be more sympathetic if she didn’t already have a reputation of being abusive towards her own teammates and enemies.

Which is apparently ok, because she’s disabled. So she gets a free pass when she’s rude, but other people aren’t allowed to be rude back.

No no, it’s ok to be rude in private, doing it out in the open is asking for an infraction.

The trick is to not be baited.

StickerHappy.8052:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Celine.6857:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

It shows the disgusting difference in skill Ithilwen has with an upper division player. She has been making threads throughout the seasons about how she is stuck because “MMR HELL!!!!” and how the game favors certain players, then she finally posted a video of her playing and its as bad as you can imagine. I very well know the game is not balanced on 1 v 1, but it will clearly show the skill gap. Anything in a 5 v 5 would just result in “ahhh my team was so bad why can’t I grind out games oh woe is me.”

It still doesn’t mean much though imo, because PvP is a team game and 1v1s don’t count for all the other things you need to focus on in a PvP match. It’ll show whether she can beat whoever in this 1v1 but that doesn’t really display what is happening in a match.

Where is this scrutinized video ?

Had to dig deep for this

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5CmlAUhxRY

My quick commentary: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Here-s-MMR-Hell/page/2#post6073135

What’s the point? We all know she is disabled, how come you guys expect more from her? why not just support her or team up with her?

You guys are should have a more understandable persona esp with people in need.

You are skilled right? (atleast that’s what I would like to think) I bet you can carry her? or maybe not?

It’s fair to point out things like this because if not, there’s no way to see what went wrong and comment on how to do it better. For example

https://youtu.be/k5CmlAUhxRY?t=669

Why stay to cap the point if you’re going to abandon it anyway? Then not watch the map for swords to which a person could have returned to hold the point. Of course if you didnt care to hold it, you shouldn’t have wasted time capping it in the first place.

This goes to the core of rotations and asking where you should be, and what you should be doing during a match. Simple things like these are the difference between winning and loosing a match. They’ll even cost you the game if hardcore pvp’rs have set out to carry said person to get their backpiece XD

Can we all just carry Ithilwen? Sure. That doesnt mean you can’t point out some simple things for him to think about while playing (some of us have PvP’d with Ithilwen back in the OMFG all mes team days too, btw ;D )

Rifle Butt: I’ve saved hundreds of downs from stomps through this skill alone XD

Let us not forget saving downs from resses! :D

#Mesmerroots

Windwalker.7421:

I finally found the build with which I can turn those team fights around in S3!

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Scrapper_-_Power_Hammer

Not meaning to troll…but…

The league in which this profession plays as compared to the Mesmer in its current state is truly unfathomable until you play it yourself.

I went from a losing streak of 5 games and a constant ping-ponging in Pips and tiers, to a 6 game win streak on a profession I haven’t even played in well over a year. In fact I’ve never played Scrapper before at all in PvP, and I spent maybe an hour testing things out on the test golems before I headed into ranked battle.

Ridiculous sustain with strong damage output and control. In years of playing the Mesmer in sPvP I’ve never broken like 600-700k damage in a match, and in 4 games I already had one with >900k damage on a rather average length match on TSS.

Can’t beat’em, join’em!

The last time I played the Engie was ironically when Mesmer was also almost unplayable/unenjoyable. Now we’re in the same boat again IMO, and as much as it pains me to go FoTM, it’s really what you gotta do to get Anets attention. They messed up Mesmers, plain and simple.

Oh yeah, Scrapper is absurd. I frequently point it out myself on the forums. I laugh when people point out hammer was just nerfed. Really? because they didn’t do a good enough job XD. The other comment I liked was the one saying how Scrapper just plays itself. It’s full autopilot. All you have to do is bring a hammer and spam through your skills while the game plays the rest for you.

Ohwell.

Ithilwen.1529:

How did I say I want the back piece for free?

That’s ridiculous. I’ve worked far harder for it than the majority who already have it. That’s true at least if we confine the work to this series of seasons.

Sorry that attack has no basis in reality.

If you’re a builder, and you go to the work site ready to build a house, and you spend your day doing laundry on the build site instead of building the house, and at the end of the day the house isnt built and has had no progress, yes you’re worked really really hard… doing laundry all day. However since you didnt do any work building the house, despite working really hard, you shouldnt expect the reward of having built a house XD.

Furthermore if an experienced builder and an inexperienced builder go to work building houses, and the experienced builder, because of his experience, finishes his house sooner and with less hassle/fuss, that’s not to say the experienced builder didn’t work as “hard”. If anything he put in a greater level of effort, albeit a more productive one. His work has a greater value in many regards over the toil of the inexperienced builder.

There’s a lot of distinctions your argument misses in there.

• I think it’s a waste of a trait choice.

• I think there’s no room on the bar for glamors along with this trait in a meaningful way (portal excluded, high cd).

Exciton.8942:

PvP league is just such a failure.

It creates a painful grinding process for players like OP and a meaningless title for so-called top players.

Those ESL players get legendary easily but I can also get legendary easily although my skill level is so much lower than theirs. Such a meaningless league at both ends of the stick.

In conclusion: Don’t look for meaning in video games

After a match or two im playing Uncharted 4 PvP XD

Anyway, even if a f2p account is smurfing its

• a 50% chance you’re grouped with them
• Not running meta builds as its core only
• If they are winning constantly because they’re oh so good, they’ll rocket through tiers and out of your division very, very quickly.

Ithilwen.1529:

@Ross Biddle

Sadly, the shiny (the legendary backpack) requires crossing divisions. Removing the “safety nets” with the players cycling through on f2p accounts for easy wins and the matchmaker… and the shiny would become unobtanium.

That would remove the last motivation for new players to play. They certainly aren’t playing for the pleasure of being pounded repeatedly.

Plenty of people played PvP long before there were a pair of shiny wings.

I know I have absolutely no interest in dirtying up my toon with them XD

Just for the record: Ithilwen has a Razer Naga Epic, so he’s set for a gaming mouse. He’s had it as long as I’ve known he’s played the game.

I don’t think Ithilwen’s far off accepting he’s “not that good”. Given the first post, the issue Ithilwen has highlighted is that he’s “not facing opponents on his level”. To which the obvious answer to that is he requires pip/tier/division loss so that anytime he pushes to high into a skill level he can’t cope with, it’ll bump him back down appropriately.

That is the obvious answer to all of this.

I’m not experiencing this “deliberately unfair matchmaking”.

Sure I get bad teammates, blow out matches, etc etc. But nothing truly held me back from advancing under this system. Except for myself of course, running inferior builds within the meta, or making bad decisions within a match.

Sounds like it’s time for a new smurf account! :D

Aren’t you inexperienced with warrior?

Playing the class effectively still requires proficiency.

You don’t see my jumping on scrapper so I can faceroll my way with an autoplay hammer spamming class. It’s just not gonna play out that way for me XD

One shoots petals and flowers, the other fires blasts of laser energy.
Aesthetics baby :D

The Christmas exclusive one.

PierPiero.9142:

messiah.1908:

PierPiero.9142:

is it not better to take 2 distincts main hand weapon ? I play something like that but with scepter/torch, sword shield for example .Taking 2 times the same weapon means that when you have one side in cd and you switch, your skills are already in cd .

sword doesnt bring much to the table with condi pressure only evade frame mainly

scepter has 4 sec cd block , 7 sec #3 and give you the benefit to switch weapon which proc sigils and having still the ability to pressure with the scepter which is condi weapon and range one. so to lose it to melee sword which hardly does any dmg ….

I understand your pount but when you have scepter skills on cd you have only autoattack to make damage and it seems to me weaker than having 2 weapons , but perhaps i am wrong

Generally speaking, when I run scepter/sword I’ll sit in it without the need to swap, and that’s without traiting it for the additional CD. So CD’s arent really a problem with this setup.

That said, I do take sw/shield and use it as a heavy defensive exchange for when I want to eat a ton of pressure from multiple opponents. Also sword can allow me to teleport up to ledges where opponents are, which is huge even for the cost of no damage on sword.

StickerHappy.8052:

I have a much better idea.

Everytime you gain might, you transfer a condition to your foes ICD 7secs
You gain might for each illusion shattered

PROS:

• You retain the Hybrid aspect of Illusions
• YAY! No more pigeonholing to Inspiration
• Opens up more builds

1 condition every seven seconds? How many seconds do you expect to live with a condi bomb on you? Or the ever impending problem of continually reapplied condi’s XD

For cleansing I’d go immediately to two places. The first is The Prestigue. In addition to a condition cleansed on torch skill used, 1 condition cleansed for entering stealth. Then Imagined Burden is currently an underwhelming trait that could be used to compete with the damage/debuffing options in the GM level Domination line. That’d give GS condi cleanse (somehow) which is purely a power weapon anyway (won’t buff condi)

And/or play on Stickers idea and improve things like Rending Shatter- 1 condi cleansed when you apply vuln, icd 3s.

Somehow Ele will come out the strongest, and scrapper will still be immortal.

Fay.2357:

Toeofdoom.6152:

See, this treating me like an idiot thing is not productive. I know how stats work.

Then why are you claiming that this change would improve the build from season 2? That claim doesn’t even flirt with reality, because S2 meta was a hybrid build revolving around MtD.

Pretty much Fay is on the money, and I don’t see him stating facts as you being treated like an idiot (that’s your narrative).

Neither condi nor hybrid benefits from a buff to shattered strength because you have to give up maim, which is the single best damaging condition mes has.

Also while the illusions line might give the illusion of being a “sustained damage” line, the line offers a lot to any mesmer build simply for the reduced cd’s on illusion summoning skills, and on shatters. That’s more bursts, and more utility right there. Both things a power shatter build can do with.

Fay.2357:

Toeofdoom.6152:

Without any boon duration it’s a 5-10% damage boost for build that shatters regularly which is about on par for a master trait. You might be able to argue for minor buffs but doubling it is clearly unreasonable – 3 shatters would send you directly to 24 might, and with Chrono that would be easy.

You say this like Ross’s change would allow you to just slot in shattered strength and lickety split be OP! Well, I’ve got some news for you unfortunately: That isn’t how this works. At all.

The meta power build uses chrono for obvious reasons. This is non-negotiable. The meta power build uses domination for boon strip and damage. This is non-negotiable. The meta power build uses inspiration to stay alive. This is non-negotiable.

Whoops! No room for illusions!

Ok, lets see then. What can we drop? Well, we could drop domination, but losing out on the big damage amps/power block and the boon strip on shatter is going to be a massive loss in the current meta of everyone and their mother spamming boons. We could drop inspiration, but losing out on the reliable condition removal it provides is going to make it difficult for you to survive in larger fights.

Quite honestly, I think Ross’s suggestion is too weak for it to still ever see use. The sacrifices required to actually take the trait are massive. Either other changes need to be made, or the trait needs an even larger boost: to 3 stacks per illusion shattered.

Exactly, this change isnt enough to make power shatter viable. It’s just the first of many changes that’d be necessary to move things in the right direction without walking down the power creep path, or indirectly buffing condi meta builds or “chrono” elite spec in any meaningful way.

So with this change in place, you’d still need some sort of viable cleanse option for a power shatter setup put somewhere. Either in domination, or illusions (improving torch trait, or something in the GM line). Nothing as strong as Inspiration, but something regardless.

Ok, I’m gonna say it. Is it a new build when it’s simply the meta chrono build of S2 but with guardian runes?

Sure you dropped staff and took scepter/sword, but even I did that in S2 (since I don’t favor staff XD )

Sadly this trait sucks, and even on a full power mes it’s better to take maim than it. Thinking on how to tweak power shatter without generating an explosion of tears, I suggest a QoL change and a minor buff.

QoL

• Shattered illusions grants you might per illusion as before, but the effect occurs immediately (on F1 press) based on how many illusions are lighting up your bar. This moves the damage granted from the might to the forefront of the shattering process, meaning each and every clone that hits, hits full force.

Minor Buff

• Grant 2 stacks of might per illusion shattered. Gotta make the trait worth it kitten .

Shaogin.2679:

Aw, people complaining about your thief? That must suck. As an Engineer I’ve gone through that every time Engi (and now Scrapper) was able to poke his head in the meta.

Always happens, you should be used to it if you’ve played Thief any length of time before HoT. People will always group together and target their hate on a class or build. Sometimes because it is cheesy and not fun to play against, and sometimes just because it is actually op.

Scrapper isn’t actually in the meta. The Hammer is in the meta. The Hammer just requires a scrapper to carry it around.

Yeesh.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

i always hated that part about legendaries.

the requirement for 8 × 250 tier 6 fine crafting materials.
absolutely ridiculous.

sure i may have 3.5k gold but i ain’t spending any on buying those tier 6 fine crafting materials.

The Predator was worth it XD (Rodgort the first well before that)

I’m never going to want gold for anything else ever (done with the game aside from the casual pvp), so might aswell enjoy blasting people on a rifle war :D

Thief has always been OP. Always has, always will.

But it’s still relative. What’s it facing. How good is the person playing it.

@ThiefOPfo’life

Power.2957:

It seems this bug is back? Does anyone care to explain how this happens?

Choppy.4183:

choovanski.5462:

its the easiest build ive played in all my time in pvp. the burst dominates & its tanky with team support. its seriously scrubby. deserves metabattle, but it would get beserker nerfed so im not gonna post it.

Ok… wanna fight me with it instead then? I’ll use conventional warrior builds.

I’d be happy to fight it using Mesmer too, core or chrono

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Ross Biddle.2367:

You seem a little.. furious ;D

That’s a nice little loosing streak you have going. You know, if you end it you’ll get two pips, win another match that’s another 1 pip, win one more and you’ll be on a win streak which will knock you over to the next tier.

Expect a few loosing streaks. Keep at it though and you’ll roll the wins you need to progress. Here’s what my sapphire looked like

ross !!!
could we queue together sometime ??? XD

I added you as a friend but haven’t seen you on.

It’s very possible I added the wrong person XD

aah thanks!

well if you added Deimos Tel Arin.7391 then it is the right person haha!

and yes you are correct i seldom log into guild wars 2 nowadays though.
not many hours to play.

imma stay at home dad full time taking care of my 16+ months daughter.
i only like have 1 hour to play during the day time when she takes her morning nap, or 2-3 hours before i go to sleep every night after both my wife and daughter has gone to sleep.

whats your time zone btw ? mine is gmt +8:00

UTC+12, I’m at the opposite AM/PM than whatever hour you’re on XD.

16mnth old, been there. I’ve got an almost 3 and 7yr old. Otherwise same story.

Sell everything on the TP. EVERYTHING.

Silberfederling.9302:

Lemonade is op, so is your attitude, nerf it naooooo

OP class getting you down? Don’t worry, they’ll nerf it next season! :D

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