Guild Wars 2

Ellie.5913:

Welp so far everyone is giving statements about how ele is invincible and can’t be killed and how he prevents his teammates from being killed also, but not 1 single person has answered the question of how all this is done, and that’s what the OP is asking. Personally I don’t have an answer because I’ve never come across any invincible ele’s, most I see are pretty darn squishy.

Isn’t it just an understanding of what skills are where, rotating in and out of their atunments properly, and blasting all the appropriate fields that they drop as they go?

Thus taking them down is best done by forcing them through their rotation (by applying appropriate pressure) then locking down and bursting in the appropriate atunement. Only to do this you need appropriate burst potential, with just enough cc, and enough team mates focusing to make sure the job’s done properly.

So in conclusion, to be successful playing ele you need to be a good Rock Band player, mashing keys in time with the beat, shifting with the tempo of the song, building up good multipliers from roll on combos.

These guys aren’t even playing GW2, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve mapped their keys to a plastic guitar XD

Ellie.5913:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Mesmer has lots of boon removals all you need to do is maybe change one of your utility’s and you’ll have some, not everyone plays meta but yea if you want boon removal on mesmer you can have it. And necro has kitten tons of boon removal, they practically never run out of it . Also mesmers can shut down ele pretty easy with moa if they are really good at what they do, not to mention the crap tons of dazes and stuns and all that, I freakin hate fighting against a good mesmer, can’t hardly cast anything.

Due to the prevailing threat of hard counter condi berserker, some condi chrono’s have opted to swap out signit for null field as stripping that resistance will ruin the berserker’s day.

Otherwise domination must be taken (doesnt fit in meta build), or there’s GS (full power weapon isnt going to see use outside of power/hybrid which would probably take Dom anyway). It’s not that the mesmer doesnt have options, it’s what options are viable.

Of course in the land of pugs there’s always the possibility of rolling over the comp by bringing something they’re not ready for. And in the land of premades you can always comp with prestige.

All this said, swapping out for null field significantly weakens the condi chrono. Illusion sig = 50% reduction in shatter skills and all related effects (dps and sustain), blink = zero stun breaks, and portal = mobility/competitive viability. So ya, don’t act like building for boon strip is a meaningless thing XD

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Fay.2357:

Idk why everyone’s got sand in their pants about this. Clearly you all would have been much more accepting if instead of making a text post, they’d posted a beautifully edited and tastefully funny video documenting their experience.

OP got to legend on a full glass mesmer. They got to legend with a massive winrate. This is indicative both of the fact that OP clearly knows how to use shatter mesmer, and that they obviously weren’t facing Abjured. Any questions?

I want a special plaque for getting to diamond using power berserker running rifle (and some lockdown anguish mes)

Wait.. that wasnt a question XD

Vicariuz.1605:

Also, just lost a pip for a 4v5, who dc before game even starts, fair?

we lost 500 – 381

Ramoth.9064:

Yeah, but you know that feeling when you get a small losing streak and you tell yourself ‘I should stop playing for the day!’ Yep. I know that feeling.

More like, Im quitting the game for good, I’ll be in the bathroom. If the water in the bathtub looks red it’s because my lifeless body has finished draining its contents into my kittentail of death.

Or something.

There’s a pretty obvious reason.

• Power Rev’s arent as favored in the face of the condi meta, and there’s few truly good revs beside.

• Thief presence has picked up a little, but again there are few truly good thieves about.

• You’re right people have forgotten how to face a shatter mes, but also peoples builds (and focus priority) aren’t necessarily set up to deal with them properly.

• Stealth and target drop has a huge edge again in the minds of players because stealth has been so absent for so long.

• Shatter mes has BOON STRIP. The cornerstone classes of the meta are having a field day living on their stability, protection, and resistance, which you can cut through. Under team focus this is huge.

• Mercenary ammy was the last true bastion of the viable “sustain” classes based on ammy. So targets are ripe for mes burst.

• Probably other stuff

Malediktus.9250:

you still made plenty of pip profit
9xW=16 pips
9xL = -9 pips

Even less in sapphire or below! :D

It is EXACTLY the same as scrapper, as demonstrated here

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyckn

Yasha.5963:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Yasha.5963:

StickerHappy.8052:

Drussthelegend.2630:

That’s faulty matchmaking if Zoose is being put into matches where he can win a pure 2v1 fight. I don’t count a fight where the second guy rolls in as the first guy is basically dead a real 2v1.

What??? Zoose does this all the time. What are you even talking bout? So are you saying noone should win a 2v1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZinp7EET0

Supcutie on a 3v1.

Seriously the forums are terribad.

PS: This is also a tourney, so please do not refute it with “Maybe he is facing baddies”

GG.

In a game where all gear/levels are equalized and you have to stomp to finish someone, winning a 3vs1 means either 1) there is a vast class imbalance, 2) the players on the losing three side suck balls, or 3) a combination of 1 and 2.

This is not WoW/ Rift/ ESO where a player can 1v3 or more due to gear. If you send 3 players to take a point and those three players lose that is an embarrassment. Saying they don’t suck because they are in a tourney or have some “name” is ludicrous.

If you want to decide what “winning” a 1v2 or more is you need to define success. In conquest there are multiple definitions of varying importance.

Any player who can 1v2 on point and hold a cap = success
Any player who can 1v2 on point and hold it FROM capping = success
Any player who can 1v2 at a point, keeping the fight outnumbered elsewhere = success

These are all relevant definitions of “winning” a 1v2 – assuming you don’t go down and maintain some edge that benefits the overall match.

Totally agree, and totally irrelevant to my post.

XD I didnt bother reading most of your post tbh. Im not even sure I clicked the right quote button.

Glad im right though! :D

StickerHappy.8052:

fishball.7204:

I’ve lost so many games with Marvin on my team either because I sucked or somebody else sucked lol. Pro league don’t get free wins dude, I’ve beaten some PZ guys when they solo and hell they’re far better than me at PvP.

You know how people complain some games are literally unwinnable and teams are literally uncarryable? Well yeah guess what it happens even to pro league guys time to time.

Thank you! See. someone like you understands. ESL players on either team do not guarantee wins. It is so stupid how people think this and say MM is rigged. CMON GW2 Forums!!!

@ Ross Biddle

Man, It’s useless explaining this to people. I had no idea that the forums are this “bad”

I just link them to sirlin.net – introducing the scrub is a particular favorite :D

Yasha.5963:

StickerHappy.8052:

Drussthelegend.2630:

That’s faulty matchmaking if Zoose is being put into matches where he can win a pure 2v1 fight. I don’t count a fight where the second guy rolls in as the first guy is basically dead a real 2v1.

What??? Zoose does this all the time. What are you even talking bout? So are you saying noone should win a 2v1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZinp7EET0

Supcutie on a 3v1.

Seriously the forums are terribad.

PS: This is also a tourney, so please do not refute it with “Maybe he is facing baddies”

GG.

In a game where all gear/levels are equalized and you have to stomp to finish someone, winning a 3vs1 means either 1) there is a vast class imbalance, 2) the players on the losing three side suck balls, or 3) a combination of 1 and 2.

This is not WoW/ Rift/ ESO where a player can 1v3 or more due to gear. If you send 3 players to take a point and those three players lose that is an embarrassment. Saying they don’t suck because they are in a tourney or have some “name” is ludicrous.

If you want to decide what “winning” a 1v2 or more is you need to define success. In conquest there are multiple definitions of varying importance.

Any player who can 1v2 on point and hold a cap = success
Any player who can 1v2 on point and hold it FROM capping = success
Any player who can 1v2 at a point, keeping the fight outnumbered elsewhere = success

These are all relevant definitions of “winning” a 1v2 – assuming you don’t go down and maintain some edge that benefits the overall match.

StickerHappy.8052:

Drussthelegend.2630:

That’s faulty matchmaking if Zoose is being put into matches where he can win a pure 2v1 fight. I don’t count a fight where the second guy rolls in as the first guy is basically dead a real 2v1.

What??? Zoose does this all the time. What are you even talking bout? So are you saying noone should win a 2v1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZinp7EET0

Supcutie on a 3v1.

Seriously the forums are terribad.

PS: This is also a tourney, so please do not refute it with “Maybe he is facing baddies”

GG.

To be fair, condi chrono during S2 was super easy mode (merc ammy was insane XD ).

Also that’s NOT how to fight a condi chrono.

So I wouldn’t call them baddies, but I could make legitimate use of the word “scrubs”.

Yannir.4132:

Ross Biddle.2367:

And you’re absolutly 100% correct that I don’t play Rev. Though I’m not sure what my subject experience playing Rev has to do with the objective reality that Rev’s OP.

I also don’t play Engie, Guard, Ele, Thief, Ranger, or Necro :)

Would you like to try to come at this from a different, relevant angle? Maybe you’ll get lucky and find some traction some other way. :D

It is a very relevant angle. The reason why this is a big deal is that when you haven’t played a class, you don’t understand how it works. Unless you’ve seen hundreds of hours of gameplay of someone else playing it. It’s plain and simple. And when you don’t have experience with a class, you don’t know how to counter it, unless the counter is very simple. That’s what makes your personal opinion void of any substance.

See, your assumption is that I have absolutely no experience with reveneant. Where’as to the contrary I have hundreds of hours fighting revenants. The flaw in your argument comes at what you deem as ‘relevant’ experience (or data). Playing a class is one way to measure its power. Playing against a class is another way. But of course you put no validity in anything other than “hundreds of hours playing the class” so therefor you’re in a prime position to dismiss alternate, legitimate views. That’s called ignorance, plain and simple :)

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure rev has a host of problems I have no knowledge about. But it also has a variety of skills/traits/setups that are so ridiculous its plain to see, even for someone who’s never played the class.

~BOOM.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

warriors are the most telegraphed profession, not necromancers.

Example of Necro telegraph.

https://youtu.be/DIzAaY2Jm-s?t=200

emkelly.2371:

its not a dis. VaAnss knows i love him to death. He also knows that most wvw players are not the most skilled in actual fights.

Was ‘dis’ just net-slang for ‘this’, but 100% cooler?

I say you were set up.

If this helps, Ruby T4 and T5 were the sticking points for me. Then last night I rolled back up through T5 and 3 matches to get through 6.

Honestly there’s no telling how it will go. Just gotta get on and try.

Game mode and what you’re likely to be facing are a MAJOR factor for such an investment. In PvP I can confidently run resistance knowing there’s very little boon removal, aside from the focus of a necro, or a thief looking to outplay me. I never have to worry about it from the current condi chrono though. On the otherhand, who knows what I might run into in WvW where things are much different.

Also, if I I have adequate cleanse, do I need 100% resistance?

Also, Id only do this if I wanted to drop cleansing Ire and the entire defense trait line. However as soon as I’m proccing healing sig ive got no regen since there’s no healing sig or adrenal health, which leads me to questioning why I’m going down this path.

I prefer Leadership runes. +20% boon duration and 2 condis cleansed for team on elite. It takes my existing resistance (and boons) and buffs them up a little.

Stand The Wall.6987:

Thats an interesting choice, defense over discipline. I would love to try it out. Thanks!

Moved into Diamond last night. Here’s how things went for me over the season (before Ruby I did alternating mes/war class each tier).

Honesty in PvP? This is the EXACT opposite philosophy GW2 has been running with XD

Uhoh, here you go Ithy

Is GS 2 break vs stealthing target tied to skill targeting being on?

Ithilwen.1529:

@Ross Biddle

I have returned several messages about teamups. It hasn’t happened yet.

Second, I just came from a game in which we were stomped 500-0. The Lord Helseth himself wouldn’t have been able to carry our side against that kind of matchmaking.I have dueled against Supcutie.. and we’d have lost with him on our side too.

My point is that the odds are being set really very steep. In addition with every pre-programmed loss, they get steeper.

While there are skill issues, I have taken time and training to be an Auramancer Ele. I don’t claim to be a hot player, but I understand the fundamentals and can play. Now, I need a match in which I’m not constantly simply trying to survive.

Again the point of this thread. Every serious competition venue strives for even contests. Bear with me while I give a couple of anecdotal examples:

The largest and fastest boats almost never win Sidney to Hobart. All the boats are racing against an index.Basically, they’re racing against a perfectly sailed shadow of themselves.

The Rolex Sidney to Hobart is among the most hotly contested races in the world, surpassing the America’s Cup.

TLDR? Start here

In International Chess, the rating system is quite similar to what ANET is supposedly using.

As a relatively new player, I was matched against a master rated player in one tournament. I knew going in that I had no realistic chance and indeed he actually made me take back one move and explained why it was wrong. He stomped me as expected.

My rating actually rose after that match. I was given bonus rating points for the bad matchup.

Had it been anet, I’d have not only lost rating points… my next match would be against a grand master rated player as punishment. That’s not logical.. but it is what is happening.

When im sitting in the safety of no pip diamond, i’ll totally group with you ;D

Though seriously, if you haven’t, read Playing To Win. There’s no reason not to considering you’re choosing to compete along a competitive avenue.

Ithilwen, dude, you know you have my full support. But I don’t want to offer up grouping with you because I’ve played with you in the past and it really dragged down the team.

Also, if I’m running in past mid ruby, and you feel you’re overwhelmed at mid sapphire, I don’t know how pulling you up an entire divisions worth of pips (into a division that has no tier safety net) is going to go for you. That’s really stacking the odds, and in this game there’s no additional payout for the extra gamble.

So I really want to help you achieve your goals, but I’m at a loss on how to assist you. Perhaps there’s a fundamental flaw you’re not aware of. Maybe you’re bound by your own mental shackles. If you havent, you should probably take an hour out of your gaming work day and read through the entirety of this.

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw

If Playing to Win doesn’t help you in some way, nothing can 0.o

That’s a very existential question. I’m not sure this forum is equipped to answer it.

Easier answer is: Probably the scrapper. Or Scrapper hammer, rather. XD

emkelly.2371:

This brings up a good point. There are TONS of great Runes to use for warrior. ask any 5 warriors and you will likely get at least 3 different answers.

There are other classes who’re lucky to have two truly good options XD

This is the only thing I run when playing war

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURnMdAlki1dAWhAEliFlA7ILEAqZv52fbyFJ0NCuAA-TpBBABlVGo/9HO+QAsxDAAgLAABHBAA

I can 1v1 pretty much anything on point I find in the meta atm, and hard counter condi wars, condi chrono’s at the least. It has the sustain necessary to participate in team fights, and the burst to cut down those pesky sustain types under a team focus like eles, scrappers, and druids. Be sure to stack up your precision with signit use, and use those unblockables to ruin anyones day who wants to sit behind their walls of infinite blocks and everlasting reflects :)

Friendly Mes + Mass Invis
Infiltration Rune
Norn Racial is a transform + skill, favored by roaming Necro’s a looooong time ago XD

otherwise fields + combo’s

Sooloo.1364:

I like to think that if people are unwilling to educate themselves on a map they want to win why should they be spoon fed. It’s up to them to learn or lose.

By your reasoning all indications could be removed. Remove map visuals. Remove spoken audio queues. Remove countdown timer. Don’t add a pre-emptive 15s warning.

Otherwise including a 15s warning is just one more indicator. There’s legitimacy in the request. General QoL improvements to communication and map events can only improve the game for everyone.

You guys make me wonder what camera setup you’ve got.

Your mouse should not be so tied up that you lose track of it in the first place XD

Scrapper Hammer.

It’s pure, unobstructed, super OP

XD

I’d take rifle with a single skill. Killshot.

FUN! :D

Ithilwen.1529:

@stickerHappy

Should I understand from your post that if I don’t have friends or a team I am not worthy? I come to GW2 to escape.. and find it more stressful than rl.

Do I really need to be a social networking ninja to win a few games?

No, PvP should not be about who gets the good teamups.

I wouldn’t take that from his post.

Finding a group is pretty easy. You can just send invites to players you see in matches (pro tip: target the goods ones). If they like what they saw of you, or like what they see in the coming match, the group remains and you can roll through a few games before it’s time for somebody to go.

Good players like playing with other good, dedicated players. Even if they’re random and don’t know them :)

Zynt.5769:

Levetty.1279:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Levetty.1279:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Levetty.1279:

Thats because PvP players are bad at the game.

I’ve said it before but people running around zerg events on their guardian spamming staff auto attack know more about the game mechanics then pvp players.

Ahhahahahahaha

The idea that 1 spam PvE’rs know anything about the depth of combat in this game…

HAHA! Funniest thing I’ve read on the forum in ages.

It’s been a while Levetty but you’re still capable of an instant classic.

~wipes tear from eye

They know how to cleanse conditions.

Oh sure. After regularly timed intervals and some huge boss animation.

That and as a consequence of spamming through their skill bar.

Its a better method then to whine on the PvP forums untill Anet nerfs the condi build.

This thread is making me think of this video XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFZ3sKYZEkE

Lol, that’s awesome.

Tealots.6095:

Jace al Thor.6745:

apharma.3741:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Jace al Thor.6745:

Now Ross you know that walking up behind someone in stealth and landing 6-8k backstabs is underpowered for how hard it is

From what I’ve read coming out of the Thief forum for the last 3 years, yes, yes it is the single most hardest thing to do EVER.

I’m afraid you’re all hilariously, laughably wrong, backstab usually only does 3k max nowadays.

Never mind the fact that is on a clerics stat auramancer with protection….

While I know that was an overstatement I do think you missed the point. Never mind the fact that I have land 4-6k backstabs recently but it was on zerker amulet and not mad’s.
You can’t sit there and tell me that having bas venom up, stealth, steal and back stab is harder than getting 3 illusions up for a MW, or try for a double MW using CS and knowing that if you screw up you blew CS, your waiting 10 seconds for MW now not to the fact if you’ve screwed up you’re having blow distortion etc to escape the rampant AoE in game now.

Just my two cents since I’ve forsaken my Mesmer for my Thief because I enjoy the Thief’s role in SPvP a lot more nowadays:

If a Thief got off a backstab with Basi Venom, blowing Steal through stealth, that Thief was very likely +1ing a fight and therefore doing a very good job of doing their job. And while, one versus one, a Thief has an advantage over a power Mesmer, that’s moreso because of Steal’s secondary mechanic and the inability to summon Phantasms when blinded (which has never made sense to me — why can’t we summon something just because we can’t see?). This mechanic also makes thief “weak” against other classes. I don’t want to throw condis on an engineer/scrapper just to have them convert them into boons

Otherwise, backstab is not the reason people should argue that a Thief is OP in player versus player combat. Most Thief damage comes from autoattacks and Pulmonary Impact, while spending initiative to keep the enemy blind. Landing wtfsickcombos for burst only happens when the enemy is occupied with someone else, or if you are a thief player with 60 fingers.

Also, there’s something wrong with your mindwrack cooldown: it’s missing Alacrity :P

To be serious for a minute, Tea is right in that Backstab has nothing to do with why Thief is “OP”, at least not these days. There is a far deeper root behind what makes Thief a ridiculous presence (still) in this game.

The reality though is that you’ve just got to learn to live with them. Which GW2 players pretty much have. Thus why everyone builds, and has always built, around them. So (and we all know how this feels) if they’re suffering in the face of todays meta, it’s entirely their own fault XD

Killdozer.5731:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Killdozer.5731:

Crowley.8761:

This doesn’t bother me at all, but I’m not an entitled kitten or a bad gamer so guess the premise is not really comparable.

Main problem I think is that people aren’t used to working for anything, it’s much more appealing to complain endlessly.

When you need a preamble as part of your post to make self claims of not being a bad gamer and not being entitled, chances are you are nowhere near as good as you think you are. And you realize you are just passive aggressively complaining about said complainers?

That’s one baseless assumption we can make, sure.

:)

Ad Hominems, yay! :D

What exactly was ad hominem there? It’s somehow alright for him to make baseless claims about himself, but it’s not okay to call him out on it? Please don’t use big words until you understand what they mean.

I highlighted another example for you! :D And have provided a definition so you can understand :D

argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

It is beautiful rhetoric though! Top marks there 10/10 :D

Carighan.6758:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Overwatch has narrow classes with limited scopes XD

Not Widowmaker, her scope has quite good peripheral vision.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, that’s so punny.

Oh and here’s an almost entirely useless motivational in which you can witness a condi chrono get absolutely hard countered at the end XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_78YhAAcs6w

First you’ve got to identify the mesmer. Look at things like his weapons, his signits, if he has any mantras.
Decide if he’s power or condi, or a mix of both.
Is he running stealth (decoy, OH torch), or sitting behind blocks (OH sword, shield).

The worst mes to face for War in my opinion are power mes. These guys will kite and constantly reposition using stealth. They have boon strip on shatter, and light to heavy blind application (blinds suck for war). They can’t hold a point and are super squish, but if played properly can wear a warrior out over time. Power mes are generally weak to conditions, good ranged pressure, and a good amount of CC assuming you can land it. A good burst from a warrior can ruin a mesmers day fairly quickly if the mes isnt up to par.

In S1 the meta build was Chrono Bunker. Chrono Bunker was a tough nut to crack (for reasons beyond Mesmer itself) but could be countered with good unblockable uptime. This Mes ran no stealth (so no target breaks) and relied heavily on shield blocks. There were other issues, but if you understood what the build was made up of the opportunity was there to defeat him.

S2 introduced condi chrono. I played a very small amount of S2 but when I did I played it on the meta build of the time. I quickly saw that this “super duper OP chrono build” has some serious flaws in its design. Currently in S3 the meta mes is a weaker version of the condi chrono of S2. It has heavy condi pressure, but next to no power (merc ammy was removed). It has zero boon removal. It has zero stealth (cant target drop). It has a single stun break (in blink). It generally runs staff sw/shield, or scepter/sword sword/shield.

Staff is a defensive weapon with great mobility/kiting potential. Sword/shield is a defensive/lockdown set. Scepter/sword is heavy offensive dueling set with a strong defensive dueling nature. Whatever the mes, strong ranged pressure can be a real nightmare for them. Couple this with wars strong unblockables and you can counter things like S1 Chrono Bunker, and S2/3 Condi Chrono. A single stun break is great news for war who has great single target CC. The mes who has to stand on point, particularly without stealth to drop target, has to burn his break and a lot of invuln to withstand most warriors. Condi Berserker, and Power Berserker provide a solid hard counter to Condi Chrono (this is known). War also has great resistance uptime and condi cleanse to truly shut the threat of Condi Chrono out.

This leads us back to Power Shatter who runs a lot of stealth, stun breaks, boon strip, blinds and direct damage. So all the stuff wars dont like. A few simple tricks. Weakness is the bane of power builds, so I used to run Warhorn to hit stealthed power users with it when they were on to me. Power Mes has poor mobility, so you can actually out kite them when you know they’re wanting to come and burst on you. Learn to dodge their tells, such as iLeap, or seeing an incoming mirror blade from Greatsword. The latter is generally done from point range, so predicting the burst is a good thing to learn. Consider distance from the Mes if you see him enter stealth, and dodge accordingly. If you see a mirror blade from long range, consider they might be about to Blink to you to fire their burst combo.

These are some basics. Really though if you can give some more specefics to what’s going wrong, it’d be easier to identify the mes and how best to approach him. Anyway here’s a vid from an old meta that may or may not have any relevance to todays playing field XD

Jace al Thor.6745:

Now Ross you know that walking up behind someone in stealth and landing 6-8k backstabs is underpowered for how hard it is

From what I’ve read coming out of the Thief forum for the last 3 years, yes, yes it is the single most hardest thing to do EVER.

Killdozer.5731:

Crowley.8761:

This doesn’t bother me at all, but I’m not an entitled kitten or a bad gamer so guess the premise is not really comparable.

Main problem I think is that people aren’t used to working for anything, it’s much more appealing to complain endlessly.

When you need a preamble as part of your post to make self claims of not being a bad gamer and not being entitled, chances are you are nowhere near as good as you think you are. And you realize you are just passive aggressively complaining about said complainers?

That’s one baseless assumption we can make, sure.

:)

Ad Hominems, yay! :D

Ithilwen.1529:

@Hunter

The wings were to be available to anyone. I’ve worked harder for them than most and therefore, I do deserve them.

In addition, the point of this thread is that the matchmaking is setting me ( and many others ) deliberately to lose. Hence, my atrocious record.

-edit- OK I simply can’t play anymore.. having started yesterday evening. To show that the issue is not me but is matchmaking :

Note, I’m second in personal score. I did over 1/2 million in damage. I provided my teammates 325,000 + in healing, 361 boons and removed 349 conditions. I have heard ESL pros talk about 500,000 damage as a good number. No, the issue here is not me.

In Uncharted 4 PvP Team Death Match, you get scored at the end showing your downs, and KO’s. Reaching the KO threshold for your team wins the game, however your contribution can be reflected in downs (someone else might score the KO). When playing with a Sniper Rifle, I can down someone instantly with a headshot, but they may be so far away that Down never turns into a KO (they get revived by a team mate). In this case I might have played exceptionally well, doing my part generating Downs, but ultimately lose the match because the KO threshold for my team was not reached first.

Doing half a million damage might mean nothing if that damage is being eaten up by Necro life force, or generating downs you fail to stomp out. It might give an indication of your contribution, but it doesn’t accurately reflect your ultimate impact on the end result of the match.

What it does tell us is that your build is a viable source of damage output. But that’s about it :)

apharma.3741:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Windwalker.7421:

IMHO only if you are running with either a pre-made team, or at least a buddy to support it with lockdowns, peels, etc.

I have occasionally run into a Power Shatter Mesmer in ranked, but only very few were impressive in that role and it was almost always when they were organized with others in some fashion.

Generally speaking, you will lack the on-point sustain and condie cleansing to compete in the current meta, however if you get some support in those weak spots, you can still bring some very decent spike damage to your team.

One half-decent monkey playing a power rev will realize you’re weakness (a glass ammy) and tear you to ribbons

:)

That’s about the beginning and the end of it.

Thieves are still more than capable of doing it too.

Funny thing, I still see “thief mains” complaining about mesmers and how they’re OP.

The Thief is still as OP as the day it was conceived. Aside from shifting numbers around, nothing, absolutely nothing has changed about the class

Ithilwen.1529:

@ Evan Lesh

With all due respect, the long queue’s are not the result of a server reset.

Did you delete your previous post or was it removed?

Ved.6437:

Hi Emkell,

I think that its a nice writing on the warrior profession. After reading, I realised I was playing the warrior totally wrong – relying too much on toughness and not using the offensive capabilities of the class to the fullest.

Thanks mate and a request:

If you know how to kill mesmers using warrior class, please tell me. they are my nightmare!

What kind of Mesmer?

emkelly.2371:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Given this is a basic guide to warrior, I feel like like such an oddball reading it. Arms, defense, berserk in PvP XD

Thinking about it I might drop cleansing ire now.

Heh, you run Arms, Berserk,, Defense?

do you also run Sword/torch, Sword/axe, Flaming cyclone of burny death? cause i have played it and it is so much fun, even if it looses in serious play.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQRAsf8XnMdAdhglkCmhAEliFoA7t1Wb3tIVuLwt7IBGASZA-TJhAAB6XGAgnAwfnEAY2fAA

Full power Rifle/GS XD

This will be my current iteration moving forward
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURnMdAlki1dAWhAEliFlADJ0NC+Av52fby9ILEAqZA-TpBBABlVGYjHAwxHCg+3fggjAAAXAAA

Given this is a basic guide to warrior, I feel like like such an oddball reading it. Arms, defense, berserk in PvP XD

Thinking about it I might drop cleansing ire now.

OriOri.8724:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Windwalker.7421:

IMHO only if you are running with either a pre-made team, or at least a buddy to support it with lockdowns, peels, etc.

I have occasionally run into a Power Shatter Mesmer in ranked, but only very few were impressive in that role and it was almost always when they were organized with others in some fashion.

Generally speaking, you will lack the on-point sustain and condie cleansing to compete in the current meta, however if you get some support in those weak spots, you can still bring some very decent spike damage to your team.

One half-decent monkey playing a power rev will realize you’re weakness (a glass ammy) and tear you to ribbons

:)

That’s about the beginning and the end of it.

Thieves are still more than capable of doing it too.

Yea but they do the exact same thing to people running the meta build who just don’t know how to play mesmer very well. Part of being good at PvP is knowing when you need to gtfo

This is EXACTLY why people run meta builds, and not things like power mesmer XD

Saiyan.1704:

Exedore.6320:

Queue times are bad because the game sucks and people quit. What can you offer as a reward for doing more of something you don’t enjoy?

Fix the game and players might come back. It’s no surprise that player population issues coincide with the release of another popular PvP game.

Speak for yourself. It was actually fun reaching Legendary as a Guardian compared to the first two seasons. The balance is almost there but not quite. Matchmaking now needs to catch up more than ever and removing class stacking is a huge leap.

As for “keeping Legendaries in the game”… add prestique mode and throw us back in the amber pool, forced to queue with low mmr players. Now, a player who can actually grind up back to legendary gets an extra special something. Bragging rights and possibly a new emblem/title/backpack/new rank 81/etc.

Yea, i’ll tell everyone how bad mmr hell is when i’m going through my second legendary round in the same season. That’ll keep me playing non stop probably.

Does the game get to reset your MMR too when you start back at Amber?

I don’t wait for queue times. Queue times wait FOR ME.

Windwalker.7421:

IMHO only if you are running with either a pre-made team, or at least a buddy to support it with lockdowns, peels, etc.

I have occasionally run into a Power Shatter Mesmer in ranked, but only very few were impressive in that role and it was almost always when they were organized with others in some fashion.

Generally speaking, you will lack the on-point sustain and condie cleansing to compete in the current meta, however if you get some support in those weak spots, you can still bring some very decent spike damage to your team.

One half-decent monkey playing a power rev will realize you’re weakness (a glass ammy) and tear you to ribbons

:)

That’s about the beginning and the end of it.

Thieves are still more than capable of doing it too.